This is a really great painting. Why don't they make paintings

>>3178608
Life today is very poopy :-(

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>>3178608
Modern art aims to shock you instead of create beauty.
It wants to challenge the standards of what art is and claim that creativity is not in beauty and ordinary techniques, but something else.
Personally I think that school of thought is retarded, I prefer beauty.

>>3178610
fuck off

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>>3179229
>implying he's wrong

>>3178608
Because that style was mastered and cant be done better. Artists want to do new shit rather than just repeat what old artists have done

Modern art is terrible but at least they are trying to do something different

>>3179197
That is modern art you fucking retard.

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Is there a bigger "uneducated pleb" indicator than being unable to appreciate modern art?

>>3179260
this made me feel more than any classical painting ever could

>>3178608
Because sucking off grEEKs has to come to an end eventually.
>>3179252
>I DONT UNDERSTAND IT SO ITS BAD WHERE ARE MY CLASSICAL SYMBOLS, CLEAR ALLEGORY, AND SO ON! RAFGHGGH

>>3179252
I mean there are new things to paint or sculpt. New paintings in the old style wouldn't look identical to old paintings because there are different things to paint now. At any given time 99% of people are using well tread techniques with well tread mediums depicting well tread subjects. It's literally impossible for everyone to be on the bleeding edge so people are usually just making slight variations

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>>3179259
I wouldn't consider 19th century modern anymore.
It's 2017, anon.

Non-abstract painting became irrelevant with the advent of color photography.

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>>3179273
Not true. You can depict fantasy settings and great emotion through an oil painting that you wouldn't capture in a photo.

>>3179270
I've only recently started really looking at old paintings, like, seriously looking at them, and I'm genuinely in awe of what people can do with paint. I'm 21. Pulp Fiction came out two years before I was born. I've grown up in the postmodern era, so to really look at these works of genuine beauty, it's honestly breathtaking.

>>3178608
Like what? Whatever you're looking for, it's probably because you're an uneducated pleb who got you art education from strawmen and

>>3178608
Basically no one paints at all these days. There's no call for it.

>'classical' art
-centuries of sucking off grEEKs
-biblical and mythological scenes perverted to serve the Cult of Humanism
-le science! le progress!

>modern (you mean contemporary you dicklick) art
-both formally and technically brilliant (wild reinterpretations of artistic form, medium, material, all coming together to create something brilliant)
-abandons overused source material and traditional representations, instead focuses on sensuality of material and form itself to achieve the same ends
-doesn't take itself so disgustingly serious

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>>3179288

>>3179268
Yeha but generally what happens is a style gradually emerges, artists get better and better at it and after a while someone comes along who is generally considered THE BEST. And then people well we'll never be able to top this so lets try something different

Besides, realism in painting has been displaced by photography because it will always do realism better

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>>3179288
this b8 is art

>>3179290
>iconographical analysis with no basis

Shameful.

>>3179260
>>3179267
Is there a bigger obnoxious pseudo-intellectual indicator than thinking modern art has any meaning?

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>>3179266

>>3179270
Not him but look it up, you might look less like a dumbfuck sharing their opinions on things they know absolutely nothing about in the future.

>>3179197
The sublime isn't 'beauty' you fucking pleb. Read a book on aesthetics

>>3179307
>nothing has any meaning

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>>3179315
>>3179318
>humanity majors
ok sports, we are just going to have to agree to disagree

>>3179323
>le beauty is subjective

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>>3179260
:--DD

>>3179321
When did I say that? Modern art just doesn't. And you know what I mean by "modern art."

>>3179307
Yes, complaining about modern art as if it's some great problem with civilization.

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>>3179332
Beauty is objective.

>>3179337
To say it literally lacks any meaning at all is a retarded position. You mean it lacks some sort of higher God-given meaning or something, otherwise I could easily claim that pre-modern art has no meaning either if you discount social meaning i.e. the conveyance of ideas.

>>3179340
Yeah i.e. not the sublime

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>>3179340
Can you explain why?

>>3179340
This isn't necessarily related but I think it's funny that someone can unwittingly hold two seemingly contradictory positions that 1. art is non-functional beauty and 2. beauty, in an attempt to be defined objectively, depends on the implied reproductive functionality of the female body, i.e. her fertility

>>3179351
I don't think the culture that made that considered it to be beautiful

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>>3179360
That seems unlikely to me because they literally worshiped it.

>>3179357
Which do you think is more fertile, left or right?

>>3179375
The vase that left is leaning on seems more fertile because its proportions are more idealised. I would fuck that vase.

>>3179323
>specialists in this field that i've decided to shit up by offering my pleb opinions disagree with me
>well uh hurr hurr agree to disagree!
you probably also argue about atheism on the internet without even realizing that you're exactly like the creationists you hate so much

>>3179364
It's a fertility goddess that you would pray to for crops and healthy baby and shit I don't see what that has to do with beauty.

>>3179378
The very reason you see the left figure as more attractive than the right is why beauty is objective

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>>3179384
>egotistical monologuing
Dude stop, your being redundant. I already get that you are a humanities major.

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>>3178608
The context makes this painting great

>>3179396
I haven't suggested otherwise. What I have suggested though is that the sublime is categorically separate to beauty. The kind of large-scale dramatic landscapes posted earlier are examples of the influence felt in art by philosophy on the sublime.

>>3179364
>That seems unlikely to me because they literally worshiped it.
Where are the proofs?? :DD

>>3179427
THE PROOPS OH FUG :DDDDD

>>3179260
Is this supposed to be deep because it symbolizes the objectification of women in the form of prepackaged, recycled caricatures in anime much akin to the processing of sausage, something which also happens metaphorically when 4chan users grab their own rods of similarly-shaped meats?

>>3179429
"Muh fertility godess" is just a meme, there's literally no proof that they actually worshiped the things any more than they masturbated to them

>>3178608
>they
Who the fuck is "they"?

>>3179323
I'm STEM, and if you are too surely your education would impress upon you the importance of not running your mouth on something which mere seconds reading wikipedia would improve your knowledge of.

>>3179277
Thank you for showing me this anon

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>>3179477
Of course

>>3179439
A grain store is a pretty odd place to hide your porn.

>>3179277
Is he ok?

>>3179439
>they created figurines to masturbate to but they weren't considered beautiful

So this is the power of /his/...

>>3179486
Honestly I think it makes sense
ya gotta jack it somewhere no one is going to come around to find you in

>>3179483
Maybe It's just me, but I always felt this painting was intended to evoke Kronos devouring his children.

>>3179260
Emperor's new clothes.
Minimalism is ok. Surrealism as well. Rest is cheap money laundering trash. There's far more art and challenge in our memes.

>>3179364
Fertility means big hips, tits and ass. Goddess of fertility, now show the goddesses of beauty

>>3178608
because it's boring and overdone

>>3179282
Same here dude. This is breathtaking and looks inhuman

>>3179364
Having met a few fat matriarchs in my time I can only imagine how terrifying such a woman would be if you lived in a society that unironically worshipped her..

Our poor ancestors. I wonder how many men were killed because muh feelings.

>>3179234
>implying /pol/ isn't antisemitic nut jobs

>>3181000
t. Kikeblatt Rosenstein

>>3178610
is this suppose to be a boy or a girl

>>3179290
That's not modern art, that's the bad end of contemporary art.

If I felt like doing a bunch of editing, I could dump a few hundred pictures I took of the better end of contemporary art, from dOCUMENTA.
>>3179293
>anything i dont like is le fishy meme

>>3179307
It does, pseud.

>>3179407
>ego is bad
Letzter Mensch

>>3180114
>becuz i sed so
btw that image is an /a/ meme, an older one at that. Fuck off, newfag.

>>3179340
THICK

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I have a bit of a thing for Mormon art. They believe such silly things.

>>3179360
I think it did, because it was a female-centric, matriarchal society. Notice that whenever females take power over society (such as now), disgustingly ugly and obese women suddenly become "beautiful" and "goddesses". It should be noted that this completely vanished once men invented agriculture, settled societies and civilization - suddenly the ideal woman was supposed to be thin. So it's an objective truth that only uncivilized people will glorify female obesity.
It's also mentioned in Aristophanes' comedy Assemblywomen that described women taking power over Athens and forcing men to fuck ugly females. Whenever fat and ugly women get glorified, you know it's a sign of the civilization falling apart and women taking power.

>>3179340
How do you even fuck that woman on the right? Do you need to hold her belly up on a string and then get a 15 inch cock just to penetrate her?

>>3182413
very carefully

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This is one of my favorite piece of modern art,Butcher Boys,I always try to dechiper what torment the artist must have suffered to create such horrible creatures.

I think Modern Art doesn't try to achieve beauty anymore and if you try to do so,you'll end up disappointed.
But rather make the receiver push his/her boundaries by questioning their concept of art itself.
Duchamp is a perfect example of this with his 'readymades' and 'Happenings'.
But to me one of the most representative works of Modern Art is Piero Manzoni's 'Artist's Sh*t',which is the perfect statement for Modern Art's push of boundaries.

Sure,Classical Art is pure beauty but is really beauty the peak of Art?In my opinion,Art has more to it that prettyness but being able to emancipate the individual.

>>3179288
>-doesn't take itself so disgustingly serious
i like modern art but man, this is some wild bullshit

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>>3184508
Uhhhh

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>>3184570
>one example of a literal shitpost means all modern art is le turn your brain off bro xD

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Jean "Moebius" Giraud.

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>>3184876
Roger Dean.

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>>3184878
Albert Bierstadt.

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The war against beauty is real, fuck modern """art"""

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Otto Dix

>>3179364

What if that was the god of evil?
We dont know.

>>3179176
Good. That's the way it should be.

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>>3181000
Oy vey.

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>>3185115
Really promotes one to ponder.

>>3181000
found the oversensitive jew everbody!
is it another shoa?

>>3179513
Its just you, its a historcial depiction you mong.
>ivan the mad just killed his son in blind rage

>>3184896
>2 in the pink and 1 in the stink

jesus was nasty.

>>3185714
>its a historcial depiction
That was never in question. Haven't you ever heard of homage before? Ivan killed his son. I'm saying the artist in the way he presented the image is evoking imagery of one of the most famous mythological examples of a father devouring his children.

>>3179260
correct

>>3179483
pleb painting

all you idiots claiming all modern art is shit is a reminder that you're all uncultured beta fags pretending to know shit

>>3184903
Holy shit this is a way better "horrors of war" painting than that stupid Picasso one. Why isn't this hanging in the UN?

& Humanities was a mistake.
It's nothing but trash.

>>3179351
That was a terrifying earth-goddess

>>3185115
Didn't know leftists were this pathetic

>>3179197
That's a piece of modern art you have right there.

>>3178610
(((SEMIT)))

>>3179260
Just what a pleb would say.

Better luck next time twerp.

>>3179273
>Non-abstract painting became irrelevant with the advent of color photography.
>this argument again

No you gormless mong, photography cannot reach the same heights as painting

>>3188532
Spaniards would throw their toys out of the pram.

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>>3185811
I've noticed the similarity too, but I have no idea if it was intentional

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>>3188532
who knows, spanish republicans still butthurt even if the war ended 78 years ago...

Check the series of prints of Goya called "The disasters of the War". I think he was one of the first painters who worked about the horrors of the war instead of glorify it, those prints looks like war photos. Its very interesting (at least for me)

>>3178608
Because it makes no money.
It's not even porn.

>>3189701
They're no different than stormfront or /pol/.

>>3189912
The reason I think it might be is because of the similarity of concept. It wouldn't be the first time an artist has drawn on religious or mythological imagery to make a statement about a histoical event.

>>3179270
Contemporary and modern aren't synonymous.
That painting will still be modern in a thousand years.
Look up what modernism even means instead of using street slang to refer to art.