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Why was pederasty so common?

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Take japanese samurais for example

>Its legendary founder isKūkai, also known as Kōbō Daishi, the founder of theShingonschool ofBuddhism, who is said to have brought the teachings of male love over from China, together with the teachings of theBuddha. Monks often entered into love relationships with beautiful youths known aschigo(稚児), which were recorded in literary works known aschigo monogatari(稚児物語).[
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>>3164493
Because there used to be a distinction between someone who had sex with other "men" (typically young boys) and actual homosexuals.
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>>3164504
And what distinction what that be?
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Lack of contact with women. When women are hidden away and not allowed to substantial contact with men then men begin to look elsewhere to sate their needs.

Example: Athens, Islamic societies, pre-Song China, Feudal Japan. All kept women locked away from male contact.

Compare Sparta, Golden Age Islam, Song China, modern Japan, Pagan Germanic tribes. All have women in close contact with men regularly and all have less occurrence of homosexual behavior than the other societies.
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>>3164493
gay men are looking for the company of gay men and love to rape little boys

>imagine my shock
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>>3164510
It was just an act of sexual fulfillment because they were available, not actual eros.
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>>3164510

The notion that who you fuck as an identity is a modern one, a by-product of the advent of formalized psychology. Everything had to be categorized and everyone had to be sorted into groups.

Most societies throughout history that engaged in pederasty and homosexuality care only about who was doing the fucking. As in, a man can fuck anybody he wants and that's fine. You just can't GET fucked or you've given up your masculinity and your dignity as a citizen/member of society.

So naturally being chauvinistic led some to conclude that sex between men was inherently superior (since women weren't really people in the full sense of the word) and they began to develop practices with that in mind. A young male was already of inferior status and standing and was not expected to behave as a full adult would; you could fuck him without his losing status. Then once he became an adult, it was expected to stop and for him to get married and have kids and act how a man should. If he wanted to fuck some dudes on the side he could, as long as he was the one doing the penetrating.

This was the greco-roman attitude, anyway. The Japanese will have had their own ethic but the root philosophy is probably the same.
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>>3164522
Sparta was gay as fuck bro what are you talking about
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>>3164538
You're confusing edgy hyper-masculinity with being a faggot.
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>>3164534
>a by-product of the advent of formalized psychology
Don't blame psychology for it. It's literally all to do with indentity politics which has forced itself upon sciences and not just psychology. You had none of that shit until it became a thing.
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>>3164522
>China
>Feudal Japan
>Women locked away from male contact.
These were societies where your dad literally took you to whores to break you in and virginity wasn't exactly prized.

The fuck are you on.
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>>3164522
>Sparta
They were super faggots

>Germanic tribes
Soldiers fucked each other, blood brother shit.
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>>3164522
>Sparta
>Straight
Nigga what
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