tfw we finally know what the Phoenicians looked like

>>3162204
Umm. I think we knew this for centuries.

>>3162204
>Modern Lebanese look like ancient Lebanese

Unbelievable

reparations owed by genocidal hebrews

hebrews return lands to the canaanites now

>>3162204
Holy shit, it's almost like ancient people just adopted the language and culture of the dominant group instead of magically vanishing or something

>>3162204
THATS WHAT HANNIBAL LOOKED LIKE?
UHH NO HANNIBAL WAS BLACK NOT A FILTHY CAVEMAN

Every Lebanese bitch I've ever met has been quite attractive.
Are they the ubershitskin?

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>>3162204
>tfw no Cathaginian girlfriend

>>3162270
In reference to Lebanese Qtees we call them Cuteskin

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>>3162204
It's only Lebanese Christians that were even tested, this doesn't apply to Lebanese Muslims unless they are converts. People keep posting this without reading the actual study. Pic related. Assyrians, Samaritans and Jews are closer related to them then either are with Arabs.

>>3162204
Wait, Phoenecian = Canaanites? Was that already common knowledge?

>>3162285
>Was that already common knowledge?
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_dialects
Phoenician was just a dialect of Canaanite. Hebrew was along with Edomite, Moabite, Ammonite, they were all mutually intelligible.

>>3162283
Lebanese Muslims are probably similar but with around 10-15% Arab mixture

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>>3162288
not true, around half of their DNA is from Arabia. they still have Phoenician DNA but most of them descend from certain Arab tribes and they are aware of this. only the dhimmis didn't get all the Arab DNA unless they were already Arabs like the Himyarites.

>>3162283
Assyrians and Samaritans aren't on that map

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>>3162283
>>3162297
It depends on the individual. It's like Palestinians. A good chunk of them are straight up Arab LARPers but the ones in Nablus are most likely Samaritan Israelites who were forced into the dreaded and cruel Ishmaelite faith.

>>3162220
Next they'll tell us Italians are the descendants of the Romans.

>>3162311

Italy was more than just Romans. Large number of Hellenic colonies, for example.

>>3162300
I was speaking in general. If you look at any of the most comprehensive studies comparing the Christians throughout the Middle East versus the Muslims it's clear they are very distinct genetically and the element missing is always DNA tracing back to the Arabian Peninsula.

>>3162297
Sources?

>>3162311
theres actually more roman genes found in england than in italy, italians are less than 50% genetically related

>>3162327
Only Rome was Roman everyone else were either the Latin villages nearby or the Italic villages further south.

>>3162346
WE

>>3162330
I'm gonna assume you're a christian leb.

>>3162356
Yep i'm a Maronite. I've yet to see any study that shows we are closer to Arabs genetically then we are with Assyrians or Mizrahi Jews.

>>3162406
Is this really important to you? Lets say you specifically are for the most part arab peninsulan. What would change for you and what would you do?

>>3162311
>first king of italy literally destroys the western roman empire
>dehhhhh we iz romaniano, gettada pizza pie!

>>3162204
They wuz black.
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Etruria_the_Etruscans_2.htm

>>3162417
Because my family has been dhimmis for 14 centuries under the thumb of Arab Muslims. Then we were displaced and now i'm in fucking Canada. All because Muslims wanted to re-establish their dominance. The Arabs have been trying to root out our culture and replace it with theirs forever. Why would I ever want to identify with them? Just because they imposed their language on us doesn't make us the same thing.

>>3162406
I'm Maronite too :) the study specifies that they only tested the Christian population because of how isolated they are from the Arabian hordes.
>>3162417
Why would we want to be part of a group that kills us and has constantly tried to replace our culture with their shit stain of a "culture"?

>>3162448
>>3162452
Yet you speak arabic. And you didnt answer the question

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>>3162204
delete dis albino mutant

>>3162297
It's not that much. Too often, the genetic impact of Arab conquests is vastly overstated. There was no population replacement. There was mixture on the order of 10-15%. I would be surprised if any region in mena went up to 20% at most.

>>3162498
>Yet you speak arabic.
My church does its mass in Aramaic. It would've been hard for our ancestors to do trade with the rest of the Middle East if we continued to speak a dying language. We're also not as autistic as Israelis as to revive a dead language like they did with Hebrew.
>What would change for you and what would you do?
Then I wouldn't be an ethnic Lebanese. I would be very depressed and would question my identity. What else would I do?

>>3162270
they are good lays too.

>>3162575
>Then I wouldn't be an ethnic Lebanese. I would be very depressed and would question my identity. What else would I do?

Dont you think thats silly after being raised in maronite culture your entire life? Do you think some haplomemes on a paper change the connection you have with a cultural tradition?

>>3162270
Lebane sandnegress especially the christian ones are good for a fuck ala pump and dump but you should never reproduce with a non-white like them.

>>3162622
t. leftypol false flagging as pol

Lebanese are honorary aryans.

>>3162611
Not really, the connection I would've had with the culture on a racial level would be lost. It would be like an English man larping as a German. It might seem dumb to an outsider looking at the culture but to us who have had family live through muslim violence, it's very important.
>>3162634
>honorary aryans.
No thanks.

>>3162634
Fuck off Ahmed

>>3162531
They go way above 20%. Most of the time they are nearing on half. This is why non-Muslims are so genetically distinct from the Muslims in so many Arab countries.

>>3162498
>Yet you speak arabic.
Native Americans speak English, so what? Are they British now?
>What would change for you and what would you do?
It's a dumb question because i've gotten my DNA tested and the 3 closest groups were Assyrians, Syrian Jews and Druze. Even Cypriots and Ashkenazi Jews, with all that euro admixture showed up closer genetically to me than Arabs. Hypothetically though, I would shoot myself in the face.

When will /his/ realise Arab is not an ethnic group?

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We've known for millennia

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>>3163071
>Tradition holds that Arabs descend from Ishmael, the son of Abraham. The Arabian Desert is the birthplace of "Arab". There are other Arab groups as well that spread in the land and existed for millennia.

Nice try Achmed.

Good ..fuck niggers tho the barcas were Persians, I fuckin see these useless niggers try to steal Hannibal and the pheonicians and make them niggers...lol niggers have nothing in history to be proud of ...maybe the Nubians but that don't count since these people piggy backed off the Egyptians and their society and tech.

>>3162204
Aside from one guy who's clearly a shitskin they look pretty white.

>>3163212
Which guy? also "white"

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>>3163266
This one.

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>>3163278
What about this one?

>>3163290
This one is clearly their KANG.

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>Tfw no Canaanite gf

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>tfw Israelites are still dominating Canaanite woman and terrorizing their nation

God damn Jews

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>All New Kingdom Ancient Egyptian qts have been bred out of existence by Hittite Arab invaders

Feels pretty shitty

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>>3163530

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>>3163530
>believing the breeding out bullshit

there's dna studies. egyptians are pretty much the same egyptians. the only thing that changed is religion and culture

>>3162270
Lebanese are white unlike snown*ggers

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>>3163539
Please fuck off Achmed you are fooling nobody. Own up to your genocidal past and quit denying your atrocities.

>>3163530
? Egyptians defeated the Hittites and the latter were not Arabs

>>3162297
>not true, around half of their DNA is from Arabia
Didn't they originally come from somewhere around Yemen, in the distant past?

>>3163541
Mohammed please stop this is just pathetic

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>>3163555
>>3163539

But you're wrong though

>"Although the mummies contain almost no DNA from sub-Saharan Africa, some 15% to 20% of modern Egyptians’ DNA reflects sub-Saharan ancestry.."

Wade, L. (2017). "Egyptian mummy DNA, at last". Science. 356 (6341): 894. doi:10.1126/science.356.6341.894.

So basically this study says that Lebanese and Jews have Indo-European heritage

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>>3163760
It just proves Indigenous Levantines are white and the dark ones are just Arabs LARPing

>>3163530
Hittites were Indo-Europeans from Anatolia you fucking retard. Arabs were still too busy raping goats in their shitty desert by that time

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>>3163775

Basically, there was an Aryan invasion.
"Eurasian hunter-gatherer" means Aryan from the steppe.

>>3162354
WUZ

>>3163760
yeah, while egyptians got blacked, it's actually the opposite for levanties who are closer to europeans now than they were in anicent times.

WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RESULTS OF ONE CARTHAGINIAN MAN... THEY WOULD BE MUCH MORE DIFFERENT

>>3163111
>barcas were Persians

>>3163775
WE

>>3163775
You are one of the most annoying posters on this board. Can you stop this "hurr durr they wuz white n sheeit" bullshit already?

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>>3164118
>t. assmad shitskin/and or jew

Fuck off David/Dawud. Pic related is a pure Levantine Samaritan woman. She's clearly a white girl, and looks nothing like an Arab.

>>3164125
So are you a buttblasted diasporashit or a white nationalist who tries to cope with the fact that christianity isnt an indigenous european religion?

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>>3164125
>pure
Neolithic and Bronze Age Levantines were closer to Arabs than they are now.

>>3164125
This might be a crazy concept but maybe there is variation

>>3162283
>>3162297
You're confusing different things. Do you think Lebanese Christians wouldn't get a massive "Arabia" breakdown in your second chart due to how those categories are set up?

Lebanese Muslims have a bit more sub-Saharan and a bit more European (yes, actually) ancestry than Lebanese Christians do.

My guess is that Lebanese Orthodox are the more 'pristine' population of the lot since they're an ancient community that never converted back-and-forth.

You're just confusing people with this nonsense. All Lebanese are closely related to each other with small differences.

A caveat to this whole thing is that modern Lebanese can easily have ancestry from neighboring populations that were similar enough to replace a good chunk of their Bronze Age genetics but still make them look similar to them. Obviously no population is the exact same as the Bronze Age one of the area.

>>3163775
No, it shows that ancient Levantines were LESS 'white' since post Bronze Age ones have an extra component related to the Eurasian steppe that might have come to them from any area north of them.

>>3164125
Samaritans are genetically Levantine and they don't all look like Tsedaka. If Levantines are 'white' to you, sure. But don't whine about a dark Near Easterner not being white even though he's more closely related to her than you are next time.

Shit. Those Phoenicians qts look exacty the same as lots of the girl we have in Sardinia.

>>3162204
Daily reminder those kinds of pics always show the most white looking women. It happens in south american countries too, they always take pictures of beautiful white women to claim "Our country isn't that brown".

I have heard from a fucking albanian that they are all blonde with blue eyes. Fucking retardes with their inferiority complex.

>>3162204
We should start advocating for Greater Canaan. Give the Canaanites their home back!

>>3162311
>Roman
>Race

No sweetie anyone could be Roman

>>3164561
imagine how much money the followers of Abrahamic religion owe. Their act of genocide is worth a few billion $$$ at least.

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>>3162204
gib lebanese gf

>>3162204

HOLY SHIT!

hezbollah vs Mossad is the battle with the deepest lore

>>3162233
That's rare though.

>>3164275
>Lebanese Muslims have a bit more sub-Saharan and a bit more European (yes, actually)

It's from Slavic slaves. Christians weren't allowed sex slaves. Thanks for proving the Arab horde is full of mongrels

>>3163111
Not really, the Nubians were thriving contemporaries of Egyptians and both cultures flourished though trade.

...Why are you so angry though? Like you seem really threatened by certain people being seen as black. Are you even Semetic or Middle Eastern? It doesn't really matter to me one way or the other since humans are humans at the end of the day but so many people are really invested in this. It's retarded.

>thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee
Does God want us to finish the job?

>>3165487
>wants a gf
You don't even deserve to live.

>>3167426
But weren't Israelites also Canaanites?

>>3162346
That's some nice nonsense you've peeled off your taint

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>>3162204
Carthaginians were Canaanites. So were Phoenecians. Carthaginians were black, so therefore were Phoenicians. This is the belief of the majority of progressive Americans, and it must therefore be the belief of /his/.

>>3166546
More like Crusader dindus culturally enriching the levant

>>3162204
The girl in The bottom left is so fucking hot

>>3165389
t. Caracalla

Jesus is accepted by scientists as being black, as well as Egypt, as well as the Israelites.
It's reasonable to assume that the canaanites were black before the white cave people forced them from their ancestral land while being blacked into the Arabs they are today.

>>3169303
Yeah she's really beautiful

>>3169273
>Crusaders having a significant impact on ME genetics
Why do brainlets still believe this?

>>3162435
>implying the first King of Italy, managed to genocide the entire peninsula, and replace them with barbarians.

Genetically they probably are roman.

>>3169303
Yes, I agree, She's the only reason I click this shitbait.

>>3169303
I want my future wife to look like her

>>3162283
>Religion changes your DNA.

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>>3164125
This is on par with nigger WE WUZZING

I thought you were better than this /his/

>>3170382
The Christians remained insulated while he Muslim majority absorbed a bit of outside arab mixture.

>>3170395
Same guy posts the same thing all the time. Either a troll or a /pol/ack.

People arguing in this thread should remember where Phoenicians came from. I'm a Lebanese Arab and proud.

>>3166468
no

>>3170795
Proud of what

>>3162311
There were only a small cluster of Greek colonies in Italy proper and majority of them were clustered in Southern Italy. Majority of Italians were Italics, either Latins or other Italian speaking related people.

>>3162346
how to spot an anglo: the post

>>3162311
Umm sweetie Rome was Blac AF

>>3163530
>Hittite Arab invaders
This bait is not even worth it

>>3163749
If you actually read the paper in Nature Communications modern Egyptians and nearly all Arabized peoples in the Middle East have SubSaharan ancestry, which was likely due to either gene flow or the slave trade. The latter the more likely scenario.

Ancient Egyptians were mostly related to ancient Canaanites which the majority of the peoples in the modern area still have.

The ancient Egyptian language is in the same family as Arabic and other Afro-Asiatic (Hamitic-Semitic) languages. They use the root system with three letters like Arabic today.

>>3162204
Would smash

>>3163810
>Aryan invasion
>After the Bronze Age
Do people like this exist on /his/?

WHAT IS ALEXANDER THE GREAT retard

>>3164139
The light blue are Persians. If you compare the Levant and older Natufan samples to the Syrian and Lebanese the difference is in the cyan color.

The cyan color is predominant in Iran which at that time was the result of the Eastern branch of the Indo-Aryan migrations

>>3169555
It's the case tho

These numerous half-breeds were called poulains

>>3169260
>hannibal
>king

The we wuzzing here isn't even the biggest problem.

>>3171358
Indo-Iranians arrived to the middle east after the bronze age

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>>3162311
>>3162346
I know you are baiting but I'm gonna post this anyway
Modern italians are pretty much the same as the people living in the italian peninsula in Roman times

>>3171346
It is possible that the mummies studied were not ethnically Egyptians.

What's crazy about that genetic test is that it establishes sub-Saharan by the absence of a genetic marker. So technically per the test used, black Americans would also not be considered sub-Saharan.

>>3162575
I'm an Ass-hole and we/they conduct trade among themselves in Aramaic (I've seen it myself). Communication with others was not prevented, because of frequent bilingualism of Kurdish and so forth. I don't think any entire groups in the Middle Ages or whatever switched to Arabic because they thought Aramaic itself was doomed.

>>3162220
Not as common as you might think, specially considering there isn't even such a thing as "ancient lebanese"

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>>3162220
Well, look at the Greeks. Ancient Greeks were pale, they were known in the Middle East for having blue eyes.

Greeks today are indistinguishable from an Arab or a Latino.

>>3172557
>Greeks
>basically a Turk

Are Turks just Greeks who practice Islam?

>>3172561
Pretty much

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>>3172557
>>3172561
>>3172655
spanish are closer to norwegians than greeks are to turks.

>>3172557
>Anglo on top
Gee I wonder who could've made this picture

>>3167430
How so?

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>>3173331
God?

How will Lebs who identify as Arabs ever recover?