Genetic evidence suggests the Canaanites weren’t destroyed after all

>Haber and colleagues' genetic analysis also revealed the origins of the Canaanites, whose ancestry was so mysterious that even the ancient Greeks wondered about it. Analysis showed that the forbears of the five Bronze Age Canaanites in the study are the result of mixture between local Neolithic farmers and hunter-gatherers who hailed from the region today called Iran.

>The Iranian group probably arrived in Sidon with the ascendency of the Akkadian Empire, which the researchers note "controlled the region from Iran to the Levant between 4,400 and 4,200 years ago." A massive drought around 4,200 years ago led to the empire's collapse and also sent refugees fleeing from the parched north of Mesopotamia to the south. There's evidence that southern cities and villages in the area became overcrowded with the new migrants. Eventually, however, the two populations intermingled and produced a thriving, influential culture. The people of this culture called themselves Canaanites.

>Modern-day Lebanese underwent another genetic transformation in the past one to three thousand years, as Steppe peoples migrated to the area from the east and mixed with the local population. As a result, people in Lebanon today are mostly Canaanite, with a touch of Eurasian ancestry. This change came about in the wake of another collapsing empire.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/07/genetic-evidence-suggests-the-canaanites-werent-destroyed-after-all/

Probably got destroyed as a nation not genocided.

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>First, God orders the Hebrews to destroy the Canaanites along with several other groups

These Hebrews keep breaking promises it seems, God had to come down from his realm and create order because the "chosens" couldn't keep to their promises.

Kinda ironic how psuedo canaanites are basically at war with actual genetic canaanites over their psuedo canaanite religion

>>3152921
The Canaanites were not all killed it is attested in the Bible, but the majority was killed

And YHWH does not care about Lebanon, only Israel matters to him

>>3152921
>Canaanites are J1 and J2

HOLY SHIT


It mean that most Arabs aren't Semites but Hamites


It also explain why Samaritans Levites are all E-M78, and why E1b1b is closely associated with the spread of Afro-Asiatic languages and not J1


Hebrews were literally E1b1b

>>3152921
I've never heard anyone say the Canaanites went extinct. Only specific ethnicities like the Amalekites. Regardless of what the Old Testament says, there were the Punics and many non Judaean people near Israel like the Nabataeans and speakers of a pagan Palestinian Aramaic which evolved into Christian Palestinian Aramaic.

>>3153006
All Afro-Asiatics peoples have a common presence of E1b1b. The pre-Afro Asiatic inhabitants of the Near East who were related to the Sumerians are the ones who were probably J and they probably originated North in the Caucasus. According to the Hebrews' reckoning in the OT Canaanites are descendants of Ham who is the father of all the African nations known to the ancient Hebrews.

>>3153045
So the negros got BTFO?

>>3153063
No, because the bible isn't a reliable accurate historical source

>>3153063
Nah it was the ancient Mesapotamians who got raped by the Akkadians and were sandwiched in between by the Iranian spread. Akkadians were probably and ISIS tier proxy for the Egyptians.

>>3153045
Except that Canaanites are Hamites in the Bible and turn out that they are J1 and J2, while Hebrews are said to Semites and are most likely E-M78 (perhaps E-M123 too) thus appareanted to North Africans which would make them Semites

It doesn't make sense

>>3153074
>which would make them Semites
which would make them Hamites*

>>3153074
There's a mix of both among Semites and other Afro-Asiatics as is mentioned on here often of the Egyptians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_the_Near_East

>>3153074
You can take haplogroups as racial indicators or even cultural ones, it only explains migrations of mostly men than vanquished and mingled with the defeated woman.

>>3152995
ITS GOD SAY IT YOU JEW GOD G O D GOD YAHWAH
ALLAH

you disgust me
i can suck baby dick but cant say god

yeah so there were like 12 different tribes of people that comprised Israel

>>3152961
elaborate ?

>>3153006
>>3152921
>>3153085
>>3153096

Here are my results mates.

Lebanese by Ethnicity.
Canadian By Nationality.
Religion: The Unitarians [AKA Druze]

>the jews know us.

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>>3153114

>>3153089
Yes i can

The Bible told us that Hebrews are all the sons of one man*, and Samaritan(who are well know for keeping their racial purity unlike Jews) Levites are all E-M78, then there is the fact that Semitic languages were spread by E1b1b tribesmen

Then there is the fact that the Sabeans(Yemenites) were said to be Hamites, and it is there that there is the most J1
* Shem =======> Eber =====> Abraham ======> Jacob/Israel

Lebanese are honorary Aryans.

>>3152921
WE WUZ CANAAN N SHIT

>>3153126
>takes bible at face value

>>3152921
Weren't israelites themselves originally canaanites who separated contrary to the biblical narrative?

>>3153924
I don't think that's one hundred percent proven but a lot of scholars think that and there is quite a bit or archaeological evidence supporting it.

>>3154011
Interesting

>>3153924
They were essentially a Canaanite group with a Yahweh cult who then dominated after the Babylonian exile and Ezra's formation of their official scripture.

>>3154099
For some autistic reason I find this proto Yahweh religion creepy as fug

>>3154143
>using the word creepy
Stop talking like a female. Yahweh was just a god in a polytheistic pantheon and his worship morphed into henotheism and eventually monotheism.

>>3154143
Yahweh was just another god in the canaanites pantheon. So they were pretty much the same as other canaanites. This is explained in the Tanakh (Old testament), although they make the other canaanite gods sound evil, like Ba'al.

>>3154231
Ba'al wasn't a single god, it's just a title meaning lord/master. There were shitloads of ba'als, even Yahweh was called ba'al at one point.

>>3154231
>>3154162
I know, he even had a consort, like the other old gods.

>>3154243
>Scholars previously associated thetheonymwithsolar cultsand with a variety of unrelatedpatron deities, but inscriptions have shown that the name Baʿal was particularly associated with thestormandfertility godHadadand his local manifestations

>>3154349
>phonecuck
Leave.

>>3154349
Kill yourself.

>>3154349
If you're gonna be a brainlet wikipedia scholar you should at least read the entire article, retard.

Praise hezbolah, warriors against international kikery.

One hezbolah warrior > 1000 /pol/ NEETs.

>>3154423
Hizballah is pretty /pol/

>>3154379
>>3154383
>Caring about the opinion of fags
Not everybody sits at their computer all day.

>>3154410
Sorry, was just grabbing a quick article reference because I don't want to waste time proving a pretty entry level fact in semetic religious studies.

El also means god, but refers to a specific deity as well.

Melqart, from Melek-qart just means king of the city, but was the name of a Tyrian dirty

Ba'al means Lord, but referred specifically to Ba'al Haddad.

>Most modern scholarship asserts that this Baʿal—usually distinguished as "The Lord" (הבעל,Ha Baʿal)—was identical with the stormand fertility god Hadad

Yes quoting Wikipedia again, but I shouldn't have to go beyond that when it proves the statement at hand. I don't want to waste time going through my Ugaritic, Canaanite religion books just to prove something when the other person arguing has provided no sources for their arguments, and really your only argument was

>Brainlet

There was no wholesale destruction of the Canaanites in the bible. The language used in the test is exaggerated, nonliteral "warfare rhetoric." This kind of language is akin to saying your favorite sports team "destroyed" or "Massacred its opponents. Granted, there would still have been civilian casualties when Israel fought the Canaanites, just as there are civilian casualties in modern wars, but those noncombatants would not have been Israel's main targets, nor was it the case that Israel "wiped out" these peoples.

In fact, many details in Scripture assume the total destruction of Israel's enemies did not take place. For example, Joshua 11:22 says, "There was none of Anakim left in the land of the sons of Israel," even though four chapters later Caleb is described as still driving Anakim out of the land (Josh 15:13-14). The book of Judges records Israel's conquest of Canaan, but it differs significantly from the account we find in the book of Joshua. Instead of recounting the utter destruction of the Canaanites, Judges only records the Israelites destroying Canaanite idols (Judg. 6:25-27)--not the people as a whole. Judges 1:28 even says, "When Israel grew strong, they put the Canaanites to forced labor, but did not utterly drive them out."

Other relevant passages in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy speak of "driving out" or causing the land to "vomit out" the Canaanites. They don't speak of the Canaanites total destruction or even their complete displacement.

>>3152921
Bible says they were not all wiped out. Shame, really. Had Joshua done as ordered, there would be no ISIS today.

>>3153072
Prove it.

>>3153074
Why doesn't it make sense?

Canaan is literally Ham's son.

>>3153921
Stop being an idiot.

>>3154231
Bullshit.

These "checkmate Christian" type stories are so cringe because the people who write them or buy into them are completely ignorant of scripture. They're just want to believe it's true. It happens every time some "lost" gospel is found that will totally prove Mary wasn't a virgin.

>>3152921

So, once again, science proves that the bible is correct, as the Canaanites came from Canaan, Ham's son.

>>3155082
The bible proves Mary was not the eternal virgin that Catholics purport her to be.

The bible.

>>3155090
>>3155082
Nonsense. It's hypostatic union that proves that Mary isn't a virgin

>>3155098
That word.....it does not mean what you think it means.

>>3155098
>>3155090

Well this place certainly hasn't changed since the last time I've been here. It's every bit as retarded.

>>3155115
Come back in 10 years then.

>>3155021
>>3155039

>>3155090
It's biologically impossible to have children and be a virgin. Even if she was impregnated by some miracle, how the fuck can you give birth while keeping your hymen intact?

>>3155127
So a 11 year old girl riding a horse who breaks her hymen is no longer a virgin.

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>>3155107
Yes it does. Butt sex doesn't count for the losing of virginity; Jesus was born of sperm leakage out of Mary's ass.

>>3155127
Goes for you too.

>>3155127

Did you know that a hymen could break despite a woman never having sex? A virgin is somebody hasn't sex, not somebody with a hymen. Otherwise men would be born as nonvirgins because they never had a hymen to begin with.

>>3155134
Correct, she physically isn't. Even in the biblical context, losing virginity meant breaking the hymen, hence all the autistic proofs with stained sheets.

>>3155135
Oh, you're an Orthodox cultist. Got it.

>>3155152
You do know there's an age limit to post here, yes?

>>3155152

I sincerely hope you're like 13 years old. That would excuse this sort of ignorance.

>>3155121

What are you replying to me for?

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>>3155127
either she had an unbreakable yet flexible hymen or she had an hole in her anal canal that linked to her womb

>>3155145
Read Deuteronomy 22:17. A test for virginity was to provide the cloth after first sex, if it was blood stained (hymen broke during sex), she married as a virgin and thus pure.

>men would be born as nonvirgins because they never had a hymen to begin with
This is quite the most idiotic post I've ever read on here and that's saying something. You do realize that the word "virgin" isn't unisex in Hebrew or pretty much any language in the world besides English?

>>3155199

Yes, the is a good way to indicate that women is no longer a virgin. This does not mean that having a hymen is a necessary condition for somebody to be a virgin. A virgin is defined as somebody who has never had sex. A woman can have a hymen and not have sex and be considered a virgin, and she could also not have a hymen and never had sex and still be a virgin.

If you define virgin to mean "a possessor of a hymen" them I'm absolutely correct in saying that men could never be considered a virgin.

>>3155199
Not the guy you're responding to, but you realize that Deuteronomy 22:17 does not in fact say that?

וְהִנֵּה-הוּא שָׂם עֲלִילֹת דְּבָרִים לֵאמֹר, לֹא-מָצָאתִי לְבִתְּךָ בְּתוּלִים, וְאֵלֶּה, בְּתוּלֵי בִתִּי; וּפָרְשׂוּ, הַשִּׂמְלָה, לִפְנֵי, זִקְנֵי הָעִיר.


הַשִּׂמְלָה The dress. It's an article of clothing, not the bedsheet. Not to mention the proof of virginity is not the same thing as virginity itself. That's like saying that a credit card statement IS your monthly purchase of whatever.

>>3155236
and why would a virgin woman not have a hymen? i don't think the excuse of having stuck a dildo in your hole would go over well in pre-modern times

>>3155271

They can break from riding a horse or falling on your ass too hard. It's not an uncommon thing for them to break prematurely even in modern times.

>>3155236
>This does not mean that having a hymen is a necessary condition for somebody to be a virgin.
In Biblical context it absolutely does. You're anachronistically forcing modern western concepts of virginity on 1st century Middle Easterners. Back then if you didn't have hymen, you were not a virgin.
>If you define virgin to mean "a possessor of a hymen" them I'm absolutely correct in saying that men could never be considered a virgin.
The word for virgin in this context is "betula" and it applies only to females. "Dam betulim" = hymenal bleeding.

>>3155279
Which is of course why it's pluralized in a masculine tense and not a feminine one.

>>3155276
in other words she'd still be asking for it

>>3155279
If you believe this, you're dopey.

>>3155333
>"What do you mean ancient people didn't conform to modern views of sexuality!"
>"Y-you're a dope!"

>>3152933
This. Human genocide before the modern era has historically been extremely rare. They might interbreed until a people were essentially unrecognizable from their ancestors but it isn't like when the Franks invaded France they genocided the local inhabitants.

>>3155081
Quite the argument. You upset your god isn't so special after all?

>>3152922
>with a touch of Eurasian ancestry
Where the fuck do they think Canaan is?

>>3152921
>Genetic evidence suggests the Canaanites weren’t destroyed after all


WTF? The Canaanites built the first Temple.

> people like you need to be intellectually sterilized

>>3155346
t.dopey

>>3152922
Lebanese are Canaanites

Hory shet

>>3153114
>Druze
Noice. You reading up Pythagoras?