What if the Carthaginians had won?

>>3140443
Carthaginians extract tribute for some time, but eventually some Greeks - maybe Macedon or Epirus come and kick them out.

>>3140478
To expand upon this: In the event of a Carthaginian victory, the city of Rome would have been thrown into irrelevance, similarly to how when Romans fucked Carthage, Utica became the new center of the region . If another city were to eventually rise to prominence, it would most likely be one of Carthage's former allies, because they would have escaped devastation: maybe Syracuse or Magna Graecia. Even so, it is highly unlikely that any of them could reach the glory of the Roman Empire simply because of chance.

>"Republican" Oligarchies become the dominant form of government by 1000 AD, carthaginian values overwhelm the world by the early 1900's
>The entire concepts of honor, dignity, and morality have been destroyed, and profit is the only measure of what is good or not
>Slavery has been de jure outlawed centuries before our time, but replaced with economic feudalism that redistributes the burden slaves had onto more people through debt and life-long contracts
>Many consumer goods are invented decades before they were in real life, but the only ones cheap enough to be bought by the common man are primitive, intended not to improve his life, but merely to keep him complacent and ependent on the system
>The world's largest corporation specializes in Post-birth abortion services

>>3140443

Europe would have been united under the Etruscans instead of under the Romans. The Carthageans had no stomach for real conquests, nor did they have the administrative capacity to rule in anything beyond the lightest of ways.

>>3140521
Hell, it's not even clear that a Carthaginian victory in the 2nd Punic War would throw Rome into irrelevance. It's not like Rome hadn't been sacked before, and a lot of the polities in Central Italy actually preferred the Romans being in charge to the endemic warfare that preceded their rise.