You have 10 seconds to justify the existence of anything outside this blue area.
God created it.
Nuclear power
>>3137855
What's your contribution to mankind, OP?
>>3137912
Posting this map that clarifies which part of the world concentrates 99.9% of important positive historical achievements, and which part is just a waste of space.
>>3137855
oh, so the Balkans are gold-tier civilisation?
Islam, the final revelation for mankind, came from slightly outside those boundaries
>>3137855
How can you say India, China, and Iran made no contributions to the history of mankind?
>>3137927
No, that's the one hole in the banana of civilisation.
>>3137941
Name one.
Shit you couldn't even name a relevant city in any of those places, since that's how this map is made.
>>3137941
He doesn't actually know anything about history. Just smile and play along, it'd make the entire concept for this thread run a lot smoother for him.
>>3137959
ching chong patel please
>>3137955
Gupta empire:
>This period is called the Golden Age of India[3] and was marked by extensive inventions and discoveries in science, technology, engineering, art, dialectic, literature, logic, mathematics, astronomy, religion, and philosophy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_mathematics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions
algebra:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra#Etymology
>>3137955
The numbers we are using are called Hindu-arabic numbers.
>>3138021
>he still can't name ONE contribution
Pretty fucking pathetic m8.
>>3138032
>the world would be totally changed if we used slightly different squiggly lines from the ones we're currently using
OK buddy
>>3137855
Mathematics
Number zero
Grammar
Tantra
Ayurveda
Chess
Buddhism
Yogas
Curry
Tea
Gunpowder
Acupuncture
Mobile printing characters
Confucian exams
Paper
Toilet paper
Magnet compass
Fireworks>cannons
Etc, etc
>>3138035
It's not my fault you can't read
Hegel
Gunpowder
Copernicus
Tolsty
Dostoevsky
>>3138039
Yeah I'm sure mathematicians adopted it because they found it cute. We all know mathematicians like to change shit all the time and hate being conservative with their stuff.
>>3137855
One's existence doesn't need to be justified
>>3138076
>stage 1: denial
>>3138070
>Hegel
Stopped reading there. A person is not an achievement, and on top of that he's from the area in the OP map.
Fucking hell the posting quality is abysmal.
>>3138076
>This includes the Four Great Inventions: papermaking, the compass, gunpowder, and printing (both woodblock and movable type). The list below contains these and other inventions in China attested by archaeology or history.
> The decimal number system in worldwide use today was first recorded in Indian mathematics.[3] Indian mathematicians made early contributions to the study of the concept of zero as a number,[4] negative numbers,[5] arithmetic, and algebra.[6] In addition, trigonometry[7] was further advanced in India, and, in particular, the modern definitions of sine and cosine were developed there.[8] These mathematical concepts were transmitted to the Middle East, China, and Europe[6] and led to further developments that now form the foundations of many areas of mathematics.
>>3138084
>muh poo in loos invented da mathmatcis!!
ITT: OP gets destroyed and he cries like a bitch
>>3138097
They didn't invent mathematics. They contributed to it, dumbass.
>>3138086
His life was
>>3137912
Sucking dick
>>3138092
The West already had parchment, the dry compass was invented in France independently from the shitty Chinese wet compass, gunpowder is not a positive contribution in any way, and the printing press was invented in Germany.
And these are the "Four Great Inventions" produced by a country of over a billion people over the course of 5000 years. Nothing but garbage. Amazingly shit.
>>3138113
You're in denial
>>3138098
>all these ass-ravaged ching chongs and poo in loos ITT
>>3138113
A lot of the nations in your map are Asian and not Western.
>>3138113
Most countries produce nothing for their time because no one except autists like you focus on 'contributions to mankind'. Hell, the Roman Empire hardly actually added anything to the corpus of knowledge.
>>3138100
>shifts goal posts
>still misses
>>3138113
There are more inventions here but you won't read it because you're a fucking faggot who only wants to troll
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions
Where the fuck is China nigger?
>>3138125
>are you actually resorting to claiming advancing mankind is irrelevant
You must really be retarded if you think this is what I'm saying. 'Advancing mankind' is an idiotic whiggish idea that implies history is going in a specific direction. For your average roman citizen (or Chinese peasant or Indian merchant or whatever) innovating new things wasn't important.
>no Russia/Soviet Union
>>3138131
>still literally can't name a single one after four posts
This is hilarious.
>>3138163
Already have but you go
>hurr duur *shift the goalposts* hurr nuh durr
You're just acting retarded
Why do summerfags have to exist
>>3138143
>'Advancing mankind' is an idiotic whiggish idea
>innovating new things wasn't important
lmao are you serious with this? So you think you're living the same way people did 5000 years ago? Best start by throwing away that computer you're using.
>>3138168
The only actual Chinese invention you managed to cite is gunpowder. Too bad that's an absolute shit contribution that only caused damage.
>>3138169
Mommy could not afford a babysitter
>>3138174
>>3138170
>innovating new things wasn't important
For most people that's been true for most of history. A roman farmer in 300 ad hadn't changed a whole lot from 500 bc
>>3138169
Those are just Chinese and Indian immigrants living in the West and butt-blasted about their home countries' irrelevance and overall shittiness.
They make up most of /his/ because this is where they congregate to shitpost about WEWUZ, since deluding yourself about the past is easier than deluding yourself about the present.
>>3138182
Why are you still posting on a computer?
>>3137855
>i live in the blue area
>i still make less money working fulltime than some people do collecting welfare
Its an abstract feel.
>>3138187
I never said this applied to myself you absolute retard
>>3138105
What did he contribute?
>>3138169
i have a feeling its an abbo
>>3138160
It doesn't count as culture/invention unless its anglo.
t. anglo
>>3138039
You know the Roman and Greek number system doesn't have the number 0 in it. I'm not sure how that came to be but that's how it is
>>3138201
How did they manage to tax people, field armies and so on without the notion of a "lack of quantity"?
A quantity which is lacking, rather than existing. Like, super basic stuff.
>>3138183
So despite your map having Asian nations you are admitting that your shitty troll thread is just another muh West rantling?
You can't take someone who thinks contributions to mathematics aren't important seriously.
>>3138195
I think we're done here.
>>3138209
Because you're brain dead?
>>3138207
What on Earth are you babbling about? Stop projecting your weird personal butthurts.
>>3138217
Because you just admitted your posts have been nothing but ridiculous nonsense. This is the last response you're baiting out of me.
>>3138198
The Phenomenology Of Spirit amongst other works
>>3138227
You truly are retarded.
>>3138206
>. Like, super basic stuff.
Then why didn't they have the number 0?
Russians invented the first satellite.
>>3138238
I don't know, thats what I am asking.
How did they manage without the idea that a quantity can be lacking.
They didn't have negative numerals either. Its like they couldn't abstract quantity at all.
>>3138206
Listen to what this MATHEMATICIAN says about the hindu-arabic numbers at 12s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbz4Af_TngM
>>3138229
That's a book, not a contribution.
>>3138254
>greatest single discovery and innovation in history of mathematics and science put together
OP BTFO
>>3138264
A book which contributed to the wider bank of human knowledge
>>3138251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y7gAzTMdMA
I'm trying to find something to make us both understand this better, best video I found so far.
Maybe we should ask /sci/
>>3137912
Being a faggot.
>>3138277
What did it contribute?
>>3137855
Anime
>>3138299
>what did hegel contribute
I think you're on the wrong board anon
>>3138323
What the fuck did Hegel contribute??
>>3138327
Oh just the underpinnings of most philosophical thought of the last 200 years and the primary influence behind both communism and fascism. Nothing important or anything.
>>3138323
>still can't name one thing
The problem with this board is all the retards like you who just mindlessly parrot what they heard somewhere without ever giving it the slightest thought.
>>3138322
Kys
>>3138169
>summerfag meme
Kys
>>3137855
I live in south England, Europe is and has been a political chess board for the great powers for years now.
>>3137855
What's your definition of a contribution? It seems pretty narrow.
>>3138347
>what did hegel contribute
>communism and fascism
wow, great guy, how can we do without him
>>3138350
You only act like this because you're shitposting in here. I doubt you would say the stuff you're saying in front of educated people irl without feeling embarrassed.
>>3138385
>I-I'd better pretend to know that Hegel is important even if I have no idea why, s-so smart people think I'm smart
Pathetic.
>>3137855
>Kick the sandniggers out of western europe
>Discover and conquer an entire continent, opening the path for western colonialism
>Develop the pike and shot formation to a whole new level, achieving military dominance in europe for more than 100 years
>Still not relevante
Wew lad
>>3137855
>America not on list.
Saged
>>3138420
Also this great meme that overshadows your country's history.
>>3137855
Al Gore invented the Internet. I don't see Tennessee on this list?
>>3137955
Inventing the mathematical 0.
>>3137855
artificial intelligence
>>3137932
Islam flourished because of the levant tho
t. levantine
>>3138431
i like apples fren
>>3138431
How is that charles II appears in literally every /his thread?
ITT: /his/ gets trolled hard
>>3138488
How is it you're such a newfag?
>>3138193
>Iran is slav
Well, no real answers so far.
>>3137855
Why is ireland in that blue area. Bongs barely have a right to be there but the irish?
>>3140234
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianization#Europe
>>3137955
>Shit you couldn't even name a relevant city in any of those places
What kind of a fucking retard couldn't name some cities in India, China and Iran?
For real this is what I can do off the top of my head
>Dehli
>Kolkatta
>Mumbai
>Beijing
>Guangzhou
>Shanghai
>Hong Kong
>Kowloon
>Tehran
>Isfahan
>>3138065
You could have worked harder on that list, man. I've gone through a list of inventions form outside of Europe, and picked out the important ones: there's a lot of them, but acupuncture and curry are not among them.
>>3137855
India and the concept of zero
Denmark and their XIX century chemists
Russia - Pavlov and all the space shit ussr did
>>3140234
Irish manuscripts. Basically the first signs of Western civilisation.
>>3140296
He said relevant city, not just any city you dumbass.
>>3140351
I listed Relevant cities. My only mistake was making a distinction between Hong Kong and Kowloon.
All of these cities are relevant, at least to some degree.
>>3137855
Modern Democracy
>>3140351
>Half of those cities
>irrelevant
You have to be a fucking American if your knowledge of other parts of the world is this low.
If you'd like an example of a historical settlement like the ones in OP's pic, Mohenjo Daro.
>contribution
Literally the entire world's civilizations food variants are based on Amerindian crops mostly.
>>3140498
>potatos
>Tomatos
>Maize
""""""""Literally the entire world's civilizations food variants are based on Amerindian crops""""""""""
>>3140563
>tfw eurangutan 1st world health problems are due to amerindian crops
You literally can't avoid this fact, chimp.
>>3140563
You're forgetting beans, chocolate, vanilla, and so on..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_crops
Plus corn is used in so many products. That crop alone has made a pretty noteable impact.
>>3140498
Wow, Amerindians invented crops? That's amazing!
>>3140642
>contributions
Yes. They didn't learn and steal the idea from oriental cultures like eurangutans did.
Deal with it.
>>3137855
China invented paper and gunpowder for one.
>>3137855
>You have 10 seconds to justify the existence of anything outside this blue area.
OP got btfo in this thread.
>>3137855
>>3138193
>USA only partially shitskin
Tippity toppity kek
>>3138092
>papermaking, the compass, gunpowder, and printing. The list below contains these and other inventions in China
Doesn't mean shit if you don't do anything with it.
>>3140743
Invented by a white Canadian of British ancestry.
>>3137855
London has no business being there. Paris too.
Hentai
>>3140769
How about functinoal quantum cryptography?
>>3137855
Thick brazilian women with giant bundas
>>3137855
we contributed the most per capita.
you're welcome yurop.
t. armenia
>>3138065
Half those things aren't even "inventions" and other like gunpowder weren't even utilized properly until the god race (whites) got a hold of it.
>>3140957
>other like gunpowder weren't even utilized properly until the god race (whites) got a hold of it.
Canons using gunpowder were developed by the mongols after conquering China then introduced to Europe, Cleetus
>>3137855
Black people in America invented peanut butter and the squirt gun.
Whitey btfo
>>3137855
the invention of gun powder the people who where exploited to make the blue area better through colonialism imperialism and capitalism.
>>3137855
Black people literally built up America
>>3141467
>Black people in America invented peanut butter and the squirt gun.
That's not even true.
>>3140957
Incas were superior to europeans though.
summer can't end soon enough baka
>>3140759
You know the French Revolution happened in 1789 right?
>>3140777
Paris is objectively the most important city in history. London would objectively be second if Oxford was there.
>>3137855
>Vikings enhanced and invented the modern form of gaelic culture and had massive trade networks through northern Europe, as well as repelling the Mongols (Kievan Rus, whether you like it or not, was probably descended from medieval Finns/Swedes)
>India invented the Alphabet and Numerals
>Exchange in Al-Andalus gave the Hindu-Arabic numbering system and complex mathematics such Algorithims and Algebra back to the west, as well as introducing the basis of modern Medicine including dissection and complex surgery, Alchemy (Chemistry), enhanced Astrology and Currency
>The former two of these are attributed to the beginning of the Italian Renaissance (namely Fibonacci's Liber Abaci, which drew on Abū Kāmil Shujāʿ ibn Aslam's work and the Chinese Remainder Theorem)
>Agriculture first harnessed in the river basins of the Tigris and Tiber
It's time to go, /pol/.
>>3142578
>Vikings enhanced and invented the modern form of gaelic culture
>>3142578
How do you even come up with this much retarded bullshit, holy fuck
>>3142595
>muh ad homs
>>3142591
Is there a problem? The Scottish identity and culture, as opposed to that of perfidious bong, has fostered some of the world's greatest engineers.
>>3137855
I'd add the rest of north africa too
>>3142601
What's the point of this kind of shitposting, it's not even humorous, just cringy and boring.
>>3142607
>2 posts later and he still hasn't offered a counter-argument
>all these buttblasted chinks ITT
>the only thing they managed to respond to OP was "muh gunpowder", which caused only death and destruction and the end of chivalry
This is so fucking sad
>>3142623
What about agriculture, maths, medicine, money and science?
Show me on the globe where they were invented.
>>3142632
Overwhelmingly in the blue area.
>>3142632
That's exactly what OP did.
>>3142623
What's sad is how fucking in denial you are. People gave you lots of shit to consider but you threw it out based on whatever your arbitrary definition of a contribution is.
>>3142634
It depends on what component you want to argue desu, which is why this thread is fucking stupid
You could just as safely argue that modern mathematics was 'perfected' in the west, or that it had its complex origins in Persia, or that it adopted Hindu numerics thus making OP wrong. You could also argue that medicine was obviously refined by the Italian Renaissance but had its beginnings on surgery performed across the rightly-guided caliphate.
shit thread desu, sage
>>3142649
I'm not OP, but all the answers here are utterly retarded bullshit that only prove his point.
No, the Chinese didn't invent Maths. No, Native Americans didn't invent corn.
Jesus christ this thread
>look at my epic meme pic where i slap a blue line on what i think is the only important part of the world due of my reddit-tier understanding of history
>people outside that area did contribute to mankind though
>nuh uh name one!!
>mathematics, zero, chess, paper, gunpowder, and so on
>NO IT DOESNT COUNT BECAUSE THEY DIDNT INVENT THOSE SINGLEHANDEDLY EVEN THOUGH MY RETARDED THREAD IS ABOUT OVERALL CONTRIBUTIONS TO MANKIND'S KNOWLEDGE
>>3142662
>zero, chess, paper, gunpowder, and so on
Relatively insignificant.
>mathematics
Advancement in maths has predominantly come from the blue area.
>>3142653
>or that it had its complex origins in Persia
No you couldn't, what the fuck.
>that it adopted Hindu numerics thus making OP wrong
Egyptians already had a decimal system with a symbol for zero. Replacing some squiggly lines with some other arbitrary squiggly lines isn't a contribution.
>medicine was obviously refined by the Italian Renaissance
No it wasn't. Real progress in medicine only began much later.
>had its beginnings on surgery performed across the rightly-guided caliphate
No, medicine didn't "have its beginnings" in the fucking Caliphate, it existed since Mesopotamia and Egypt. Not to mention the heart of the Caliphate is included in OP's map.
Oh look, it's another
>everybody argues about whether China or India ever contributed anything to mankind
thread.
The answer is yes, dumbshits.
>>3142653
>It depends on what component you want to argue desu
The advancement in all the areas you listed mostly comes from the blue area.
>>3142672
>zero
>paper
>gunpowder
>Relatively insignificant.
>>3142681
Yes, compared to the contributions made by the blue area, they are.
>>3142662
Protip: when you "invent" something that was already invented, you didn't fucking invent it.
Fucking third worlders I swear
>>3142679
>still can't name a single thing
>>3137855
Fixed it for you, OP.
>>3142687
The thread title shouldn't have even induced this wanking of "hurr we wuz first", because it's contributions to mankind's collective knowledge that builds upon itself, and not a bunch of inventions in a vacuum that areas collect for ego points.
>>3142693
Good job, you just tripled the area size for a 0.01% gain in contributions.
>>3142686
Do 3246*3293 in roman numerals,
>>3142659
What I consider a contribution is anything that helps advance any given area of knowledge. OP made a lot of back and forth judgments based on whatever the fuck sounded good to him.
>India contributed greatly to the modern system of mathematics
>nuh uh doesn't count because there were already other inferior systems in use try again sweety
>The Chinese invented the compass first
>Nuh uh doesn't count because some Frenchman made it better over a thousand years later try again sweety
You'd have to be retarded or stubborn as all fuck to think this way.
>>3142694
Are you unironically trying to say that inventinos aren't contributions, but copying someone else's inventions is?
Don't you feel at all embarrassed about your posting?
>>3142700
Why?
>>3142713
To appreciate hindu-arabic numerals.
>>3142702
The simple fact of the matter is, everything outside the blue area might as well be uninhabited, and it wouldn't have affected human progress in any significant way.
>>3142700
You can do it easily with Egyptian numerals.
>>3142708
>everyone outside the blue area always copied
>everyone inside the blue area were always original
christ, consider suicide
>>3142721
No, you can't. Nobody even did, they rounded everything when doing big math. So did the romans.
Prior to hindu-arabic numerals, all big math was rounded down.
>>3142716
I do appreciate them. Does not warrant their origins being blue on the map, though.
Sweden
>>3142687
Thread says "contributions to mankind" and not "original inventions"
Are you saying that Isaac Newton's contribution are insignificant because he didn't invent physics?
>>3142732
Are you serious? If Arabic numerals didn't exist the progression of European mathematics/science would've been held back by hundreds of years.
>>3142832
>Isaac Newton didn't invent anything
Full retard
>>3137855
>no spain prussia or russia
t. william wellington
>we invented everything
>Says while eaying amerindians crops based food
Amerindian master race.
>>3142911
Are his laws of motion and calculus insignificant because he didn't invent physics and mathematics?
That's what you're saying about indian mathematics
>>3137912
living inside the blue area
suck it
>>3137927
>ancient greece
>byzantine empire
hmm gee i don't know, you tell me
Are you the same retard who made the thread about how Rome hadn't contributed anything to humanity like a month ago? Because you sound just like him. Faggot.
>>3137855
China made paper, blast furnaces, the compass, gunpowder.
Iran made pants.
2/10
>>3137955
gunpowder you sub-120 iq nigger
>>3144188
All those things except paper were already Made by other culture
>>3142958
Newton invented the unified system of classical mechanics.
Indians invented... ? You can't even tell me what, you just expect me to give them free points for nothing because otherwise that would be raciss.
>>3144417
keep moving goalposts like a brainlet.
>>3144432
>hurr this place deserves to exist because it invented this thing that ruined the world
>>3144439
keep moving goalposts like a brainlet.
>>3137855
if the US didn't exist then you euros wouldn't be able to suck on our military teet
>>3144411
Hindu-arabic numerals which this mathematicians claims this about it >>3138254 >>3138272
Concept of zero as a number
and contributions to:
>negative numbers,[5] arithmetic, and algebra.[6] In addition, trigonometry[7]
>Modern arithmetic was known during medieval times as "Modus Indorum" or method of the Indians. Leonardo of Pisa wrote that compared to method of the Indians all other methods is a mistake.
>This method of the Indians is none other than our very simple arithmetic of addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. Rules for these four simple procedures was first written down by Brahmagupta during 7th century CE. "On this point, the Hindus are already conscious of the interpretation that negative numbers must have in certain cases (a debt in a commercial problem, for instance). In the following centuries, as there is a diffusion into the West (by intermediary of the Arabs) of the methods and results of Greek and Hindu mathematics, one becomes more used to the handling of these numbers, and one begins to have other "representation" for them which are geometric or dynamic."
>Indian arithmetic, moreover, developed consistent and correct rules for operating with positive and negative numbers and for treating zero like any other number, even in problematic contexts such as division. Several hundred years passed before European mathematicians fully integrated such ideas into the developing discipline of algebra."
>the modern definitions of sine and cosine were developed there.
>>3144615
Ancient Egyptians already had decimal numerals including zero.
>>3145420
Sorry, I'll trust mathematicians' opinions over yours on this matter.
>>3145424
>I'll trust some random math guy's opinion on a matter of history over the historical consensus
Pajeet desperation
>>3145443
>The concept of zero as a digit in the decimal place value notation was developed in India, presumably as early as during the Gupta period (c. 5th century), with the oldest unambiguous evidence dating to the 7th century.[33]
>>3145472
>Despite being described as the "Hindu–Arabic numeral system", the corpus incorporates elements from earlier: Egyptian (decimal system with a glyph for Zero)
>>3145495
Indians are the one who treated it as a number. Just fucking google it. They say this everywhere.
>Initially, zero functioned as a mere placeholder—a way to tell 1 from 10 from 100, to give an example using Arabic numerals. "That's not a full zero," Seife says. "A full zero is a number on its own; it's the average of –1 and 1."
>It began to take shape as a number, rather than a punctuation mark between numbers, in India in the fifth century A.D., says Robert Kaplan
source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/history-of-zero/
>>3145517
>what is a glyph
>>3145535
You're refusing to accept the information. You lost this one but you don't want to admit it. I get it.
Wifi is from Aus
>>3140941
This is what Ermenis actually believe lmao
>>3137855
We dont exist to service you or somekind of "knowledge making god".
What if I just want to pick berries and not invent anything at all, ever?
Does it harm you or anyone else?
NO
>>3137855
Go read a book on Asian history. India and China are the most immediate no-brainers you've somehow left off.