Whats up with that?

>>3136268
There were no great civilizations to conquer there.

All the great ancient empires were to the east.

>>3136268
>Alexander my son, you are of conqueror now
>which lands will you choose to conquer?
>fertile, densely populated and culturally rich land that will bring you great wealth and fame?
>or shithole backwater with stinking barbarians who cannot even write
Hmm what a hard choice

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>>3136268
because yurop at the time was primitive and not worth it..

let's hope nobody corrects me

There was nothing in Europe to conquer back then. The civilized world at this time was Greece, Anatolia, Egypt, and the Near East. In Europe proper it was a bunch of forests with hunter-gatherer barbarians

Also China but that was too far away

Alexander basically conquered everything in his world.

>>3136268

He probably would have except he died. Alexander died pretty young, even by the standards of the time. Many suspect that poisoning may have been involved, but then age, literally anytime a king dies people suspect poison is involved. Also, if he had lived long enough to turn his attention towards Europe, he'd have been up against Rome at that point, and that's a match-up that's been debated for centuries.

>>3136281
India was at comparable levels of development as well, hence why he started conquering parts of it before his men had had their fill of that shit

>>3136268
The Greeks hated the Persians, hence why he conquered Persia.

inb4 "Macedonians weren't Greek"

>>3136302
They weren't but they liked to pretend they were so it basically doesn't matter

>>3136282
At that point Rome had only just won the Latin War and was attempting to solidify its control over a spat of land that only extended from Naples to just north of the city of Rome itself. If Alexander had managed to conquer all of India then turned back and attempted a conquest of the Italic Peninsula, Rome wouldn't have stood a chance at the time.

>>3136268
he wasnt a big enough guy

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>>3136268
Western europe was not like today. It was pretty backwards compared to the eastern civilizations fo most of history until recently.

>>3136268
Actually, Alexander was planning to move west and conquer Carthage and Rome after he had finished up the Arabian peninsula.
Unfortunately, before that happened he died and his generals threw away his ambitions as unrealistic, and proceeded to go Diadochi.

>>3136270

This.

Literally a perfect answer.

>>3136302
In a sense, this. conquering Persia was seem as a defensive measure. The noble savages of the North didn't warrant that kind of pacification.

because he feared the white warrior and his powerful druid magick

>>3136326
Rome is eternal. Alexcuck would've fallen to the superior Latin warrior. We already know through time and time again that Greek scum can not beat Romans.

>>3136302
>The Greeks hated the Persians
Then why did Greeks try repeatedly to integrate Persians into their origin myths like claiming the Persians were descendants of Perseus? Or how much almost every Greek writer in antiquity slobbed Cyrus the Great's cock?

Alexander has already been to the edge of India,he defeated all opposition and there was nothing could stop him at that time
R*me was barely out of their phalanx meme tactics and legions were non existant
Alexander would've flogged the senate and nailed their heads to the door

>>3136302
>"Greeks hated the Persians"
>yet Sparta fought in favour of the Persians against the Macedonians
>the Ionians were constantly conquering Aegan islands under Memnon to undermine Alexander
>Athens and other prominent city states were planning a revolt against the Macedonians after hearing about the Ionians successes
>Thebes hated the Macedonians to the point Alexander burnt their city to the ground and erased them from history
Stop getting your information from 300

>Alexander died to soon to destroy the Eternal Roman

>>3136281
>In Europe proper it was a bunch of forests with hunter-gatherer barbarians
they weren't hunter-gatherers, they had farming and iron and advanced weaponry

but yeah other than that they were stinking forest dwelling barbarians, the great civilizations were in Greece, Egypt, Middle East, Persia and India

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>>3136268
Alexander's father had already beaten up the Thracians pretty thoroughly before Alexander turned east. But there just wasn't much out there beyond the Danube in 350 BC. No one then knew about the gold deposits in Dacia. Looking at the Western Mediterranean, the only places of note were the Greek colonies in Sicily/Italy and the Phoenician colonies in North Africa/Spain. Of these the best cities were Syracuse and Carthage. Syracuse was the largest Greek city of the time in terms of population.

>>3136268
Was he afraid of the european warrior?

>>3136302
>"Macedonians weren't Greek"
They weren't.
Not as swarthy as rest of the Greeks as well.

>>3137169
>using the word "swarthy"
this isn't the nineteenth century anymore, percival

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>>3137208
Oh yes, we wuz Alexander n shit.

Macedonians and Mycenaeans were just larping. They were more Central/Eastern Euro in skin tone than Meds.

>>3136268
>beat Persia
>gain Persia
>WOW SUCH A WORLD CONQUEROR, HE CONQUERED EGYPT AND IRAQ AND TURKEY AND PAKISTAN AND INDIA AND AND AND...

He conquered Persia and nothing else.
And by """conquered""" I mean that he replaced the Persian king, while every other person in the Persian administration remained where they were, and the Persian tradition and laws remained, and basically it was a glorified military coup.

>>3136419
>pre-america
>all trade goes east, easterners rich

>america discovered
>all trade happens in the west, east declines

>westerners instantly forget the thousands of years of history and prehistory before the americas and assume the east always has been poor and even genetically inferior

>>3136276
yes except for the few Greek and Phoenician colonies as well as early Italian kingdoms

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>>3136268
Did Alexander fear the white warrior?

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>>3137440
The Greek biographer Plutarch (ca. 45–120 AD) who described Alexander as blond and blue-eyed :

>"Alexander had light skin, blond hair, and melting blue eyes. A sweet natural fragrance came from his body, so strong that it perfumed his clothes."
This was somehow corroborated by the Greek historian Lucius Flavius Arrianus 'Xenophon' (ca. 86 - 160), who described Alexander as:
>"The strong, handsome commander with one eye dark as the night and one blue as the sky".

It is therefore possible that Alexander had one brown eye and one blue eye.

>>3136268
Alexander wasn't an Empire-builder
He and his group of bandits moved from one wealthy city to another, demanding tribute or else they burn it down.
He was interested in quick cash, not in establishing an Empire that lasts. So naturally, he would prefere rich Persian cities over poor European villages as a target for his extortion

>>3137493
t. John Green

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>>3137449
>people that lived around 300 years after he died somehow have knowledge about his appearances
>meanwhile the Alexander mosaic is dated back to atleast 100 BC and believed to be a copy of an earlier one from 3rd century BC
When will snowniggers drop this "we wuz" act?

>>3137498
>implying this isn't true

>>3137498
Except he's right.

>>3137498
Prove him wrong. Protip: you can't.

>>3137449
>blond hair

Retarded translation. Its LIGHT hair. Light compared to the rest of the greeks. Stop translating it as blond.

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>>3137498
>Alexander the Barbarian
>not just another mass murdering and pillaging Savage

>>3137540
>>3137509
What causes so much butthurt?

Macedonians and Mycenaean Greeks didn't look like Meds, but like Central-Eastern Europeans.

>>3137545
How am I butthurt for pointing out your translation is wrong?
Greeks have no "blond". They have light, or fair. Stop translating these as blond, since in the context they may mean different colors.

>>3137545
Prove it nig nog

>>3137550
Macedonians weren't Greek. Not genetically at least.

>>3136281
He missed a spot tho
Its called India

>>3137493
>his group of bandits
t. Muhammad Al-Zawarem

>>3137560
Show me the genetic samples from ancient macedonians, so I can repeat your analysis. Retard.

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>>3137545
>earliest depiction of him depicts him as your average med
>hurr durr he wuz Central-Eastern European n sheit cuz I said so
The only one butthurt here is you, Cleetus, with your pathetic attempts at historical revisionism.

And he was from Pella, which back then was a port city along to Aegan sea before the gulf dried up, so by all definitions he was Mediterranean.

Most of Europe back then was Sub-Saharan Africa-tier. Everything that was worth conquering was in the East.

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>>3137545
>Mycenaean Greeks didn't look like Meds
Mycenaen and Minoans were into some strange shit. About half their frescoes/urns depict men as brown and women as white and sometimes the opposite case.

Either the brown paint dried up and left the white stone base behind or they invented proto-BLACKED.

>>3137545

>He thinks that Central Europeans don´t look like Southern Europeans.

>>3137545
>Macedonians and Mycenaean Greeks didn't look like Meds, but like Central-Eastern Europeans.

WE

>>3137608
Greeks don't look like Poles or Germans

>>3136302
Not even Macedonians thought they were Greek.

greece is hot
people get tans
their eyes go darker
what can you do

>>3137278
The fact that he led an army from a country the size of modern Greece and went ahead and conquered the greatest military power in the world, that spanned from egypt to India, makes it worthy of being called more than a coup.
And by your logic, most conquests in history were actually just coups

>>3137635
Alexander is an impressive general, and his army a great fighting force.
He didn't conquer shit however, nor was he a strategist, or a king, or anything other than a warrior. He won impressive battles, very impressive indeed, and should be remembered for it. A great warrior, and nothing else.

>>3137278
>t. John Green

>>3137665
He is not wrong.

The Indian and Iranian butthurt in this thread is hilarious. More than two millennia's and you're still ass mad.

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>>3137689
>snow niggers goes from revisionism to ad hominems
colour me suprised

>>3137670
>Hank Green

>>3137708

>asspained diaspora throws up some silly equivocations to suggest that its not a '''''''real''''' conquest unless you kill every member of the bureaucracy

Hey, you know, that actually works out for you, because it implies the Mongols didn't conquer any Islamic countries either, or even China.

How convenient that somehow, diasporats always finds a way of making their original nations' obvious defeats just issues of silly white people misunderstanding!
Also nice way to use 'revisionism' as a buzzword - you really prove that /his/ posters are much better than /pol/acks.

>>3137665
>>3137799
He's right.

>>3136777
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Italian_War

>>3137280

>westerners instantly forget the thousands of years of history and prehistory before the americas and assume the east always has been poor

What 'Westerners' did this, you faggot settler? Name a single historian before puking up your youtube pop-his tier garbage.
Fucking hell, is this board nothing but reddit retards smugly recycling their own puerile, bitter fictions about Western history?

>genetically inferior

'The east', presumably meaning the Islamic world, is badly inbred. Make of that what you will.

>>3137823

>Two word post

Oooooh so snappy and decisive! You must be vewy cwevew!
'Persian laws and traditions remained', except the laws and traditions that only a member of the king's family could be king, and somehow these traditions and laws remained beyond the empire's disintegration, which, by the way, didn't happen because it was conquered by Alexander, it was because an internal military coup instigated a new Persian king.

Fucking /his/-tier.

>>3137840
The posts arguing against him are just "hank green" and "john green", two word posts in turn. Hang yourself.

>>3137545
>I can't cope with my childhood hero being a shitskin

>>3137824
Romans ! = Italians

>>3137819
Not an argument, m8.

>>3137876

Learn to read then you illiterate wog.
Here, laid out so you even a mongoloid like you can understand:

You claim that it wasn't a conquest because the bureaucracy remained in place, yet the same could be said of the Yuan conquest of China - or the Yuan coup, by your reasoning.

Its a convenient and sophistic mangling of the word conquest that allows insolent, undereducated MENAite diaspora kiddies to
lecture actual human beings on how Alexander didn't conquer anything and actually he was just another Persian king.

>>3137873
Suuuuuure

>>3136612
The only person to answer the question properly. Wow. I'm impressed.

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EARLY POSTS
>There were no great civilizations to conquer there.
>All the great ancient empires were to the east.

>There was nothing in Europe to conquer back then. The civilized world at this time was Greece, Anatolia, Egypt, and the Near East. In Europe proper it was a bunch of forests with hunter-gatherer barbarians

>At that point Rome had only just won the Latin War and was attempting to solidify its control over a spat of land that only extended from Naples to just north of the city of Rome itself. If Alexander had managed to conquer all of India then turned back and attempted a conquest of the Italic Peninsula, Rome wouldn't have stood a chance at the time.

----------------

LATE POSTS
>Learn to read then you illiterate wog.
>Here, laid out so you even a mongoloid like you can understand:

>I can't cope with my childhood hero being a shitskin

>Not an argument, m8.

---------------

It's like a civilizational microcosm

>>3136276
Would it not be super easy to conquer these lands then?

>>3137990
Its almost like a certain other (((board))) found the thread.

>>3137990

'Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah people aren't being nice on 4chan! All we did was lie and dissimulate in a pretentious manner and call anyone who disagreed /pol/! Waaaaaaah!'

Here's the rest of my post, faggot;

>You claim that it wasn't a conquest because the bureaucracy remained in place, yet the same could be said of the Yuan conquest of China -
>or the Yuan coup, by your reasoning.

>Its a convenient and sophistic mangling of the word conquest that allows insolent, undereducated MENAite diaspora kiddies to
>lecture actual human beings on how Alexander didn't conquer anything and actually he was just another Persian king.

If you can contradict any of that, then do so, don't do this passive aggressive cherrypicking to cast others as nasty, wotten wude peopwe who should be shadowbanned to maintain imaginary 'quality' that doesn't exist.

>There was nothing in Europe to conquer back then. The civilized world at this time was Greece, Anatolia, Egypt, and the Near East. In Europe proper it was a bunch of forests with hunter-gatherer barbarians

This is not high quality, retard. Not at all. Its uncritically regurgitated stereotypes derived from Roman sources and plain ignorance, as well as a total absence of written sources from these peoples themselves.

>>3138015

Yes, its the wotten wacists wuining your wonderful, sophisticated discussions. You're not a bunch of pseudish bedwetters who can't take disagreement unless its tarted up like your mum on a Friday.

>>3138046
you're embarrassing yourself.

>>3138055

>*rolls eyes*

I wouldn't want to embarrass myself in front of cool guys like yourselves, right?
Come back when you've graduated high school and aren't so pathetically afraid of social failure, neeeeeeerd.

Really though, how can it be that none of you have even tried to defend your arguments?

>>3137990
I'm in both of those categories.

>>3137990
>In Europe proper it was a bunch of forests with hunter-gatherer barbarians
This is just as laughable as the "late posts" though.

>>3137891
Not him but,
>you claim it was not a conquest
>the guy that started the whole shit that caused your massive butthurt says "He conquered Persia and nothing else".

Well?

>>3137996
Actually, no. History tells us that organized and civilized lands are easier to conquer and specially to keep conquered as long as there's something that makes them temporally weak.

>>3137891
You can't read and are mentally disabled? Neat.

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>>3138121

>And by """conquered"""

He admitted that Alexander took control of Persia, in order to undermine the suggestion that he conquered it, and more.
The point of the post was to assert the agency of the Persian state over that of Alexander, which is a laughable suggestion.

As a bit of comradely advice; don't end your post like that, it looks incredibly snooty and autistic, pic related.
I understand that you wouldn't care either way, but its for your sake that I tell you.

>>3138133

>he can't even write 'retarded'

The inside of your brain must be so fucking sterile.
My god, it hurts to think that you were human once.

>>3138155
I made the original post, and have since stopped replying to your faggotry.
What I meant was that it wasn't Greece conquering Persia and making it Greek, it was just the king of Greece also becoming the king of Persia, and zero else changing.

>>3138172
And everyone understood you perfectly except a butthurt fanboy or two, don't worry.

>civilized discussion about Alexander and his many exploits turned into a shitflinging fest cause one snow nigger can't handle the truth about his idol being your average barbarian that opressed greeks aswell as persian and everyone else around the levant and mesopotamia for personal glory
Now I know why they call this place "/pol/ with dates".

>>3138204
There are zero dates in this thread, mate.

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>>3138214
suprisingly there is one case
>>3137449
so analogy still stands

>>3138172

Its totally wrong to say 'zero else' changed, considering that Alexander introduced Hellenistic political institutions and settled Greeks and Macedonians in Persia and Mesopotamia.
Besides, the dynasty which followed Alexander as rulers of Persia and Syria etc. were even more focused on Hellenisation than Alexander was - they founded cities with Greek names and continued importing more and more Greeks into their territories.

>>3138190

Why don't you get your tongue right under his foreskin, nice and thorough, eh?

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>>3136268
Here is the Roman Republic at the death of Alexander. Rome is certainly a regional power in Italy, but nothing compared to the Macedonian Empire.

>>3138260
>greek colonialism

There were probably less than one million greeks worldwide at the time, they didn't settle shit. Persia probably had several tens of millions.
A few guys having villas or establishing trading posts doesn't mean anything

>>3136268
He planned on Carthage and probably Italy but died.

>>3138292
He planned on Arabia first. Probably Arabia Felix, a very rich land.

>>3136281
>300 bc
>Europe Hunter gatherers
Fucking get off this board

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>>3138265
Carthage actually looks like a more relevant power at the same time.

>>3138162
>being this mentally unhinged
Cute.

>>3136268
The Greeks were directly in conflict with the Persians and not the tribes living in Europe ina centuries long feud. This is the reason. The Persians were constantly up to shit trying to pit the Greek city states against one another and eventually they had enough of the shit. Alexander would have probably did just that after his conquests of the Persian Empire and the Indus valley if he wasn't assassinated so early.

>>3138324
You make it sound like Alexander uniting the Greeks against Persian opressors.
This wasn't the case, he burned down Greek cities just as well as Persian

>>3138331
Besides Thebes, what Greek cities did he destroy?

>>3138282

How large do you think the average Greek city was, dumbfuck? How many Arabs do you think arrived in Iran after the conquest? How many Arabs do you think existed before the conquest?

Cities were founded and populated with mixed Greeks and Iranians, with the Greeks more or less the dominant minority.

http://www.livius.org/articles/misc/alexander-s-city-foundations/

These are all the cities founded by Alexander, note that many are populated by Greek and Macedonian veterans.

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>>3138324
>The Greeks were directly in conflict with the Persians and not the tribes living in Europe ina centuries long feud.
except thei weren't

After the Corinthian war the Greeks and Persians made a peace treaty that neither side broke which let them enjoy trade and stability in the region.
That is until Philip of Mordor and Alexander the Barbarian came around and started conquering the Greek city states and plan an invasion of Persia.

>>3138331

You make it sound like Panhellenism wasn't at the very least a semi-popular current in the 5th-4th centuries.
Many Greeks applauded Agesilaus for invading Asia, even if they were not Spartan, because it was seen as uniting the Greeks for a war against the Persian barbarian.
Likewise, Isocrates supported the idea of a panhellenic war against the East, led by Philip, so clearly there was an undercurrent of Panhellenism operative at the time.

>>3138342
There was no mass migration of Greek colonists in Persia proper, you moron.

>>3138342
Those are cities RENAMED by Alexander.
And the average greek city was 2500-3000 people. Greeks weren't a numerous people. They can't "invade" the way you think, because there is only a handful of them.
Their king became king of Persia. Thats what happened.

>>3138364
Since both Philip and Alexander had to violently beat the greeks to get them into this panhellenic empire, the meme was clearly not that popular outside of some academic circles.

>>3138378
>Only counting the voting population
Athens alone had 60,000 non voting males in 300s bc

>>3138396
Meant non foreign free males*

>>3138396
>average city
>athens

Athens was the biggest city. Thats not what average means.

>>3138375

Except the tens of thousands of veterans who needed housing?
Mass migration by the standards of a 21st century Westerner has seldom happened anywhere outwith the modern West.

>>3138378

>Those are cities RENAMED by Alexander.

And REPOPULATED by Alexander. Sounds as though Greeks were setting up urban communities in Persia.
You can make this statement as many times as you want, it doesn't make it true. Alexander conquered Persia and added it to his empire, in the process settling it with communities of demobilised veterans and settlers, as well as natives.

This is a substantial change, like it or not. Alexander cannot be reduced simply to a Greek king of Persia, no matter how badly babies on /his/ want that to be true.

>>>3138386

They had to violently beat some Greeks - the powerful ones - while others just joined the winning team. That's an aside, though.

>the meme was clearly not that popular outside of some academic circles.

Probably not, but it was a useful narrative of conquest, considering that academic and elite in the Greek world were deeply interconnected, and it must have made some Greeks readier to fight for Alexander than they otherwise would have been.

>>3138435
>make empty claims he can't back and the numbers work against him
>actually writes "You can make this statement as many times as you want, it doesn't make it true." in the same post

>>3138435
If every single greek at the time moved to Persia, the greeks would still be 2-3% of the population.

>>3138338
The whole schtick of Alexander worked like this
>go to a city
>demand tribute
>if they don't pay up, burn them to the ground

He did the same with Greek and Persian cities, so I dont see any reason to view him as a Greek nationalist or Greek freedom fighter

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>as soon as Alexander dies pretty much all prominent Greek city states revolt and it leads to the Lamian war
What a great "unified" Hellenistic empire we got there, that was held together by the terror and pre-Timurid tactics of one man destroying any city that doesn't subject to his will and ambitions.

>>3138439

The claims are fuller than full, and the numbers are my slaves.
Look at the link. Veterans served by native serfs. You don't need millions and millions of Greeks replacing the Iranians to establish a qualitatively different form of government from that which existed under the Achaemenids.

>>3138443

And? The same could be said of the post-conquest Arabs, yet as a minority they remained dominant.
The same is true of the Greeks under Alexander and Seleucus' empires. This is a substantial change from the situation under the Achaemenids.

>>3138457

But what other Greek cities besides Thebes did he destroy?

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>>3137509
>Plutarch was a "we wuz" Nordicist revisionist

Weeeew

>>3138477
>If every single greek move, they'd still be an insignificant minority.
>Not every single greek moved, in fact very few did.
>"And?"

And what, you cunt? And your statements are wrong.
The greeks colonized as much as weeb english teachers are colonizing Japan, and changed as much as that.
I am sure most people living in Persia didn't even realize there had been an invasion, it was over and back to normal so quickly.

>>3138478
see >>3137540

>>3138502
Can you post the original Greek term?

>>3138515
No, only the Cambridge translation. I can't speak ancient greek.
Also, seems I misremembered, it doesn't speak of his hair at all, just his skin was "fair".

>Plutarch's Life of Alexander (Section 4)
"1 The outward appearance of Alexander is best represented by the statues of him which Lysippus made, and it was by this artist alone that Alexander himself thought it fit that he should be modelled. 2 For those peculiarities which many of his successors and friends afterwards tried to imitate, namely, the poise of the neck, which was bent slightly to the left, and the melting glance of his eyes, this artist has accurately observed. 3 Apelles, however, in painting him as wielder of the thunder-bolt, did not reproduce his complexion, but made it too dark and swarthy. Whereas he was of a fair colour, as they say, and his fairness passed into ruddiness on his breast particularly, and in his face. 4 Moreover, that a very pleasant odour exhaled from his skin and that there was a fragrance about his mouth and all his flesh, so that his garments were filled with it, this we have read in the Memoirs of Aristoxenus."

>>3138515
>>3138535
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plut.+Alex.+4&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0129

Here is the greek, if you want to have a go.

>>3138515
λεῦkος - lion hair? at least in slavic languages today, might be in greek too

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=leuko%2Fs&la=greek&can=leuko%2Fs0&prior=de\&d=Perseus:text:2008.01.0129:chapter=4&i=1

1. a fish (fish haired? lol)
2. light, bright, brilliant
3. light, bright, clear

>>3138515
φοινίσσω - red (hair or cheeks?)

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=e%29pefoi%2Fnissen&la=greek&can=e%29pefoi%2Fnissen0&prior=leuko/ths&d=Perseus:text:2008.01.0129:chapter=4&i=1

anyway, i'm done guessing, time to stop pretending to work and go home

why didnt he invaded pontus did they fear the p Trapezos warrior?

>>3137606
>About half their frescoes/urns depict men as brown and women as white and sometimes the opposite case.
I haven't seen depictions of pale men unless they're Gods or spirits.

The typical beautify standard for owmen throughout history (until the modern day) has been idealising pale women. This is most likely because it shows they're wealthy and therefore don't need to work in the son.

>>3137213
>>3137545

[citation needed]

>>3136894
Greeks did hate the Persians. But you imply that hating the Persians means you have a loyalty to the idea of "Greece." They didn't think in those terms. Their prime loyalty was to their city state. If the Persians could help stop Alexander from conquering their shit, they would have struck up a deal. I'm sure the Ionians wanted to be free from the Persians, but they also would likely have preferred Persian to Spartan rule (Spartan rule a shit).

>>3136786
Why did the Jews write an origin story for the Romans related to Noah?

>>3137534
Alexander the Great set himself up as a God King. He had the ambition and put some stuff into action but had no follow through. He made his generals take Persian wives because he wanted to unify the cultures and make a nation from the rubble. If he had lived long enough he would either have succeeded or died trying. (That is implying he could've stopped having such conquerlust.)

The most silly thing about John Green claiming Alexander the Great was only looking for loot is that he will say that about Alexander, and that's partly true, but he'll make the Mongols out to be state builders and credit them with grand social advancements. John Green has institutionalised his teenage-tier contrarianism and passed it down to children.

>>3138640
Good thing I'm not John Green neither is anybody posting on /his/.

>>3138663
Armchair /his/torians aren't top tier, but at least we don't make kids' programming.

>>3138681
Actually scratch that. I'd watch that kids' programming for days.

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>>3138538
Unfortunately, the Greeks were not as honest in the statues that they made of historical figures, in contrast to the Romans. This bust of Alexander is depicting him like Apollo and other young, virile Gods. We should also bare in mind that Plutarch was born more than 300 years after Alexander died.

The Mosaic of Alexander, which was based of a work made during Alexander's lifetime, is probably the most reliable image that we will get.

Regardless, the complexion of his skinn is the most uninteresting aspect of his lfie.

>>3138719
Wait, do you mean that when Plutarch says Alexander was white as the sun, had hair like a lion's mane, and smelled really, really nice, he might be exaggerating?

>>3136326
Livy argued otherwise.

>>3138435
>Except the tens of thousands of veterans.
Who were broken up among loyalty lines after the Diodachi? Many of whom returned to Greece, Macedonia, or filtered back into Anatolia/Ionia? I like how you ignore this.

You are an idiot.
>>3138342
>How many Arabs do you think arrived in Iran after the conquest?
A few thousands, also you moron. Literally we know Sassanid Persia at its fall under its imperial holdings had a population equivalent to 35-40+ million. Do you know why ARABS have such heavy admixture of other races in them but not vice-versa? Because they didn't make a dent in sedentary populations.

Its even more hilariously slanted in Achaemenid Persia's favor because the Greek/Macedonian soldiers were not that huge numerically, you faggot.

>>3136272
I literally shat myself laughing

>>3137280
Nice , truth hurts.

>>3137586
>>3137606
>>3137618
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>>3137866
Macedonians and Mycenaean Greeks didn't look like Meds. They had bright pigmentation.
Deal with it.

>>3136268
> Retards in ITT


There was only one way for PHILIP to unite the Hellenes, it was a common enemy. Without the common enemy, the Hellenes would be in permanent revolt.

> Macedonians weren't Greek

Alexander was Greek by the blood of his mother though, the royal family of the Macedonians were treated as Greeks, as they married into Greeks and acted like Greeks. But the Macedonian people were not Greeks.

>>3139845
See again >>3137866

>>3136268
they feared the European warrior

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>>3136270

>greatest army ever seen on earth
>you should use it to conquer a bunch of mud huts in west eruope

Wew lad!

>>3137645
>alexander wasn't a king

wat

>>3141584
Wasn't a king figure. Clearly his job description was that of a king, but he didn't do much with it, he was a general instead.

>>3136612
"just one more empire and then we go back, 4 realz this time" was Alexander's response every time someone asked him to turn his ass back home, he would of probably gone east indefinitely until he died or his army had enough of his bullshit if he hadn't gotten his shit kicked in.

>>3142265
But he only conquered one empire. His friends were no-fun-allowed cunts.

>>3137545
Alexander was clearly of polish origin.

>>3142290
>implications
he was obviously estonian masterrace

>>3142295
>Baltic cuck
He was Sarmatian you plebian

>>3138282
You don't need to breed a population out of existence to drastically change them. Hellenization of the Mediterranean after Alexander's conquest isn't debatable, it is a fact, it wasn't ethnical, it was cultural.

>>3142271
Yeah but he had to win the war like 3 different times before the Persians finally gave up.

>>3142296
Alexander was african american

>>3137213
QT alert on the right

>>3136268
ITT: n*rdcuck revisionism

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Daily reminder that nordcucks often resort to blatant falsifications and half truths to try to prove their stupid point.

>>3142081
His father was the King of Macedon.
He inherited his fathers title.
Therefore, he was King of Macedon.

Just because he went off on campaign doesn't making him not a king any more. The president of the united states doesn't cease to become president simply because he goes to visit a foreign land.

Jesus.

>>3142271
Egypt could kind of be considered an empire at the time. An empire in decline, sure, but an empire.

>>3142456
>Egypt could kind of be considered an empire at the time. An empire in decline, sure, but an empire.

It could also be considered Persia at the time.

>>3142435
Having blonde hair doesn't mean you have blonde eyebrows, you numbnut. Have you ever seen a blonde person?

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>>3136272

>>3143769
Not him, but it had a weird pseudo-independence thanks to the overall decline of the Persians.

>>3136268
That would have been a cool concept. Not military conquest of Europe but Macedonians colonizing Europe. That would be extremely interesting to see.

>>3136268
HE DIED

>>3138304
Thats cause they were kiddo

>>3146913
No it had "pseudo-independence" because thats how the Persian empire was built.

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>>3136302
>"Macedonians weren't Greek"
It's tru tho

>>3137280
Middle Easterners are inbreds.

Macedonoids as the progenitor of the white race is the ultimate redpill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNXW5ITS6mA

>>3137627
Do Poles look like Germans?

>>3142357
>win the war 3 times

What do you mean by this? That he had to fight more than one battle? Whoah dude that's amazing, literally the first and last war where several battles were fought.

>>3142456
>Egypt could kind of be considered an empire at the time.

No it fucking could not, what the fuck.

>>3146913
It had partial independence because that's how the Archaemenids ran their empire. They allowed conquered people to keep their religion, customs, and even their systems of government as long as they remained loyal to Persia. If you payed your tribute and sent soldiers when they were needed you didn't even have to hear from them.

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>>3142435
Greeks/Romans were about as white as it gets back then.

Way before all the Caliphate admixture got mixed in.

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He feared the Celtic Warrior.

>Alexander once asked the Celtic Ambassadors from among the Norther Tribes what is it that they most fear.
>They answered "the possibility of the sky falling on us."

>>3136777
Romans of that time used the greek's style army with phalanx and shit, Alexander would btfo them

>>3136786
Even the Greeks acknowledged Cyrus was a fucking great ruler. They were less enthused about the later dudes, though.

>>3136272
which was which?

>>3137545
*INHALES
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHA

>>3138478
Plutarch is objectively garbage. Just sit down and read his stuff. There is so much garbage in there. Same with Sueton. It's not like they survived to our times because they were such great writers.

>>3136268
He was afraid of the Germanic tribes.

Also he was afraid of the Blacks, so he didn't conquer Africa either.

>>3136804
>,he defeated all opposition
Wait. Didn't his army mutiny from facing one of the dominant forces in India because they had trouble with some minor king?