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Troy: Fall of a city

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New BBC epic miniseries based on the Trojan War and the love affair between Paris and Helen.

Thoughts?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy:_Fall_of_a_City

Also general historical movie/tv show thread.
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Cast

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt5103758/
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>>3133643
Should cast Paris as Idris Elba desu
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>>3133649
That'd be pretty expensive, I don't think the BBC can afford it.
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>Troilus but no Aeneas?
>Aphrodite is white but Zeus is black?
>Hermes but no Apollo, Hera, Ares, Eris, or Athena?
>No greater or lesser Ajax
At least Agamemnon won't be portrayed as a fat bitch like in Troy but a Greek Hero, and I feel as though they made Achilles and Patroklus black (And my bet is they will be really gay) just for the sake of it despite the rest of the Greeks and Trojans being white, just like the BBC did with Margaret of Anjou in their Shakespeare show.
Also when will they make a modern feature length Odyssey film?
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>>3133734
Zeus is black, so its not just the gay sweethearts.
But considering Zeus has also been a cow, thats not breaking the lore much.
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>>3133641
IM a sucker for good romances but slut Helen and cuck Paris is not one of them.
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>>3133775
you don't even know the meaning of your identifying 'I'm a retard' word anymore, Paris is the complete opposite of a cuck you braindead faggot
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>>3133775
>>3133786
Yeah, how is Paris a cuck? He does the cucking.
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>>3133734
>bitching about race in mythology
If you wanted a true representation of the period, anon, you'd need a time machine to pluck individuals from the period itself and then teach them how to act, because the achaeans and Trojans don't exist as an ethnicity anymore and haven't for millennia
>inb4 muh greeks
What are the Dorian, sea peoples, Roman, and eventually Slavic migrations/ civilizations?
Having blacks play Achilles and his gay lover/bff is only as absurd as them being played by mongrel Germanic/celtic/Roman peoples.
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>>3133641
If they get the fashion right I will overlook the anglos and blacks playing greek and anatolians.
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Greece should ban this film
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>>3133804
>They can't even be bothered to hire actors that look the part and you think they're going to take the time research and produce period correct costumes.
LOL
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>>3133791
>What are the Dorian, sea peoples, Roman, and eventually Slavic migrations/ civilizations?
Having blacks play Achilles and his gay lover/bff is only as absurd as them being played by mongrel Germanic/celtic/Roman peoples.

Why not hire Chinese actors you fucking racist?
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>>3133804
We have no idea WHAT The fashion was in late bronze age Troy, the Anatilian kingdoms south of them such as Mira depicted their kings sculpted in Mountains wearing a big conical cap and pointed "genie like" shoes
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>>3133791
>If you wanted a true representation of the period, anon, you'd need a time machine
Or just take some mediterranean people, mate.
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>>3133854
but muh turk invasion
muh arab invasion
muh one drop rule
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>>3133854
That wouldn't be diverse anon, better to hire actors from literally the opposite side of the continent.
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Real question. Homer, one man, or many?
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>>3133864
He is just a character made up by Plato.
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>>3133641
Hellen was a blonde.
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>>3133787
Hellen fucked everyone

>ruin your whole nation for a slut
Dictionary example of cuck.
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>>3133641
WHY THE FUCK IS THE MALE PROTAGONIST WHITE? IS BBC WHITE SUPREMACIST? THEY SHOULD PEIVATIZE AND SELL IT TO MY UNCLE SCHLOMO!
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>>3133872
bait
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>>3133872
How do you figure.
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>>3133887
>>3133888
I am just joking about Socrates, chill.
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>>3133641
Just read the Age of Bronze comics closest thing you'll get to a good series on the Trojan War.
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>>3134031
The what?
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>>3133643
For fuck's sake.
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>>3133643
>aphrodite is a ginger

kek
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>>3133643
Diomedes was a better hero than Achilles.
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its not Rome so its shit
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>>3133641
>niggers
Why are anglos such cum sipping cucks?
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>>3133643
>brits are forced to pay for this
This is getting out of hand, honestly.
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>>3133643
Nuke bbc already.
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>>3133643
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Big Black Cock))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>3133643
I don't understand why are these people Black? If they had a show that took place in China or India would it be filled with Blacks as well or is it only Meds and Europeans that must suffer this?
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>>3136586
>I don't understand why are these people Black?

The actors are black, the characters aren't.
It really doesn't matter, the more you think about it.
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>>3133643
well they better put some red haired wig on that Achilles, stat
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>>3133643
>agamemmnon was a little white cuckboi
>Achilles was a bull

REALLY
BOILED
MY
NOODLES
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>>3136720
>The actors are black, the characters aren't
Retarded. I'd rather see them put on Whiteface than strut around as is.
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Having other Europeans play our ancient heroes is fine. Having Blacks do it (in Europe, not in Africa) is insulting. Hate to say it but it's true.
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>>3136058
Undeniably. Achilles was a whiney teen in other words.
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>>3136914
>americans playing greeks is fine
>congolese playing greeks is sin

??
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>>3136107
GET BACK TO GAUL, GINGER KNOB!
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>>3133643
> Achilles is a negroid
Fucking disgusting.
Jesus Christ, can we please just finish our trip to the apex of degeneracy so that the race war can start already.
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>>3133641
WE WUZeus
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Hopefully Dunkirk will give filmmakers the balls not to cast based on diversity.
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>>3137827
>using "negroid" to refer to a black british actor

Hello, 20th century political racism academic.
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>>3137265
American movie productions using American actors out of convenience and name value

vs

(((BBC))) using whatever black actor they find to enhance diversity


???
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>>3133791
In this case is more about internal consistency.
>Greek and Trojans are all white
>Then there is just two of them that aren't
It is like watching a movie set in ancient China and a white guy shows up and is the only not chinese there.
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>>3137853
hi
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>>3137924
BBC using british actors*
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>>3137948
your point is?
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>>3133643
oy vey
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>>3137956
American movie productions using American actors out of convenience and name value - NORMAL

British movie productions using British actors out of convenience and name value - OY VEY ITS ANUTTHA NURMBERG TRIALS
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How would you have reacted if, instead of simple diversity casts, it had been all-women diversity ones?
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>>3138101
*unzips dick*
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>>3138013

>out of convenience

Yeah, yeah, fuck off. Everyone knows why they were cast, including you - negro novelty 'really makes you think'.

This wilful fucking ignorance, and worse, attempts to pretend that this isn't a deliberate and racially motivated casting by an institution notorious for doing such things, is really tedious, although I wouldn't be surprised if you were actually British yourself.
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>>3138114
not him, but while north european phenotype wasn't common in ancient greece, people with similar looks clearly existed.
On the other hand, there simply were no native black people there.
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>>3138101

That would be interesting at least. An all-female Illiad? I'd watch it. An all-BLACK Illiad? I'd watch that, too. An Illiad with some, but not all, the characters played by niggers for literally no reason? Yeah, no.
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>>3138130
The characters aren't black, you imbecile. The actors are.
You know, like when an alien character is played by a human with a paintjob.
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>>3138146
so why didn't they give the character a paintjob?
or even better, find an actor who fits the character better?
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>>3138157
How do you know the actor doesn't fit, you haven't seen him play yet. Maybe he makes a great hoplite [spoiler]which google auto-corrects to shoplifter...[/spoiler].
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>>3138165
he doesn't look like the character he is supposed to play
This breaks the immersion.
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>>3138181
How do you know? We don't have surviving photographs of the character, the guy deleted his facebook profile.
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>>3138185
we have surviving art that clearly depicts his as a caucasian person
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>>3138213
We have surviving art depicting him as 20 feet tall and swinging ships around, probably. Doesn't mean shit.
Actually, we have surviving art of dragons and gods. Use the same logic on them.
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>>3138225
i am not entierly sure what you are getting at
this is based of a myth, not on a real story.
We know for sure that gods appear in that series, maybe also dragons
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>>3138165
>HURR how do u kno Greek heroes weren't niggers?

>>3138241

It's a legend, a story with fictional elements that is based on a real event.
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>>3138138
Goddamn it, you stormfags are autistic and you know you wouldn't watch shit
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>>3139204
>HURR

I'm not a "stormfag" you pathetic whiny cucklord faggot, and I absolutely would watch an all-female or all-nigger adaptation.
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>>3133643
This is a crime.
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>>3139571
>pathetic whiny cucklord faggot
Underage gtfo
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>>3137772
I like the fact that the show acknowledges that he looks like a Gaul
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>>3139639
Why?
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>>3136586
You know (((why))).
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>>3133643
I thought this was a joke.

I don't understand why they are doing this, I really don't. It just creates more friction and hatred.
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>>3133643
WTF is this real?
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>>3133641
>tfw you want to post WE in latin but you realize that they use declensions so it wouldnt really make sense unless you posted the entire WE WERE KINGS but your latin is so bad from not having studied it in decades you dont know how

Rex (declinded properly) SUMMUS or someshit
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>>3133643
WE
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>>3133643
>THEY LITERALLY PAY FOR THIS SHIT WITH THEIR TAXES
Every day I'm thanking God I wasn't born in a cuckolded, poverty-stricken, depressing police state of a shithole like Britain.
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>>3133649
>Idris Elba
Why does everyone keep fawning over this meme nigger? He was pretty good in Beasts of no nation but that's about it.
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>>3147260
I'm fine paying taxes to them. They typically make quality shows.
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>>3133827
because the chinese work and have jobs in bongistan. The pakis are too busy raping women, and the poos are shitting in the streets. Plus jews love blackies.
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>>3133861
Better just hire blacks instead because they're more conspicuous than Asians when it comes to your mandated diversity quota.
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>>3135912
t. Someone who knows nothing about Archaic, Ancient, or Classical Greece or Greek mythology
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>>3136058
I fucking wish just one show/comic/book/series on the Trojan war would mention Diomedes, who fought godS in battle. ffs
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>>3136586
They will never do a series set in China or India. They're afraid of being called racist for appropriating someone else's national history for profit.
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>>3136769
>red hair
>Achilles

Try blonde. Menelaus is a redhead. That's the sole reason Helen picked him after the Greek kings swore the Oath of Tyrtaeus
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Movie threads should not be allowed.

And people should not respond to obvious b8.
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>>3139204
Not a Stormfag or from /pol/, but I agree with >>3138138
I would absolutely watch a Trojan War movie or series with an all female or all black or even all Asian cast. That's what a re-imagining is, which is apparently what people claim this is. Don't shoehorn people in because you're trying to be progressive and have diversity quotas to fill. If you're going to do that, actually fucking do that. Go make the cast actually diverse. Give parts to Gujarati and Hindi actors. Throw a few Arabic actors in the mix. Chinese? Yes please! Japanese actors welcome.

Don't tell me you can only find black actors to fill a diversity standard set by the BBC. THAT is racist. I find it odd that everyone bitches about the forced diversity in BBC programming and nobody bitches about the fact that the amount of diversity they present is limited only to Africans. That's fairly racist, actually, to claim to be an inclusion-oriented company and then select just a single minority race to include despite the fact that dozens of other minority races live and thrive in your country and are easily accessible by your recruiting staff.

>TL;DR Why only blacks for minority inclusion? Isn't that racist?
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I'd rather have more movies like Black Panther revolving around an all-black cast and telling an african story, with the mandatory couple of maghrebi/white slaves/merchant/emissary, than having this kind of shit.

Though I feel it's better if they don't make the character black, just the actor.
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>>3148097
Isn't Black Panther about a hidden african fascist state conducting spec-ops hit around the globe?
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>>3133734
Zeus can turn himself into a stream of piss, why can't be go black?
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>>3148105
In the comics, pretty much. They are also technology advanced, thanks to their king-warrior savior demigod. It's silly, but it's a comic book so w/e
Though when it comes to african history there's a lot of untold stories that would be interesting to see on the screen.
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>>3148120
Why would Zeus want to turn himself into piss and shit?
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>>3147585
Yeah id watch a fully race lifted show. Thats pretty much what hollywood/european movies are anyway where a whole cast of ancient greeks/romans/egyptians or whatever are played by northern european actors

As long as the portrayal is reasonably consistent, where characters of basically the same ethnicity are played by actors of basically the same ethnicity then its all good
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>>3147260
are you proud to be a 48%er instead?
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>>3133641

Any1 else think Helen is really fucking beautiful in this? Mayb Ill watch
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>>3133641
I hope it has decent diversity. It always pisses me off when there are no gays or blacks in a TV series.
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>>3147549
the BBC used to make a lot of india related documentaries though.
then (((Pakis))) took over.
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>>3147271
>he hasn't seen The Wire

shut up you retarded
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>>3133643
>only "non-white" cast are all black males
>they're all the good guys
Really gets the noggin jogging
And for anyone who's defending this disgrace on the grounds that it's a mythical story so you can cast anyone from any race, then where are the Asians and Arabs and other non-Europeans? or even Greeks and Turks for some sort of accuracy?
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>>3133643
>UK taxpayers fund this
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>>3133643
/pol/ are a bunch of shrieking lunatics but i think they're on to something when they say the media has an agenda
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>>3133643
If you don't like it don't watch i-
>TAX PAYER FUNDED
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>3138101
Make all the female characters white and the male characters black then I'm in.
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>>3148321
>This is what the BBC actually believes
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>>3133643
Fun fact, Xanthos, of which Xanthius is derived, means blond.
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>>3148385
Means something like "yellow" actually. The river near the city was called yellow, since it was muddy. So mud color or some such.
They called blond hair "bright", like light.
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Friendly reminder than in a generation's time all major British news outlets will be saying "Britain has always had a non-white majority, just look at our historical dramas."
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>>3148395
Yellow as in blonde when in reference to hair. It also means golden, and is still the modern Greek word for Blonde.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BE%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B8%CF%8C%CF%82
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>>3148421
Yeah, and it also means red, orange, gray and white in classical texts. Also means a river with a lot of mud.
Come on, stop throwing the modern greek dictionary around, the word here is for the city, near the river, which is the "muddy river". Like the "yellow river" in China.
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>>3148419
It's like 1984. Soon they will be claiming the Party invented the steam engine
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>>3148435
Yes, but it refers to fair hair, not brown hair. And it never means muddy. Muddy rivers look golden.
It literally means blonde and golden in classical texts as well. It literally does not mean muddy in any context, other than that muddy rivers look kind of yellow.

As for the modern Greek, it simply means that the meaning is conserved.
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>>3148443
In societies with lots of dark-haired people slightly lighter hair is already considered blonde.
It'd probably be some shade of brown anyway.
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>>3148453
Why are you autistically set on this? I'm not saying they were Nordics, you spastic, just that they could have blonde hair. Not all greeks and Meds are dark skinned and dark haired, look at Anzu.
It probably wasn't platinum blonde, but blonde is blonde
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>>3148465
>Why are you autistically set on this?
>you spastic

I (and that other guy who just responded) are only replying. If we are "autistic" and "spastic", so are you.
You continue to push the modern meaning, when in the very wiki link you provided, you can see the ancient meaning has way more variety.
Further, nobody calls a river blond, so the meaning here isn't blond. Its about the river, which the persians called the muddy river, and the greeks just translated.
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>>3133643
WE
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>>3148503
Xanthos does not mean muddy, it means yellow/tawny/flaxen/golden. Those are the ANCIENT meanings, not the modern.

The modern Greek solely means golden/blonde. You're going to have to provide a hefty sauce if you want me to believe that the Greeks directly translated "muddy" to Xanthos, because if they called a River Xanthos, they meant it as Yellow.
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>>3148123
>Though when it comes to african history there's a lot of untold stories that would be interesting to see on the screen.
This.

Actually enjoyed some french cartoon i saw once where some african kid defeats some evil witch and rescues a ton of tribesmen from being dolls in her garden, that was inspired by some story of theirs.

Also, hearing them sing "Nous ne sommes plus des fétiches"(We are not fetishes anymore) was funny.
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>>3148518
The ancient meanings include white and gray, and its used to describe old people hair and facial hair.
Its also used to describe trees in autumn, so a rusty/brown isn't out of the question, especially in relation to the mud.
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>>3148555
Describing trees in autumn most likely refers to when the leaves turn yellow. They are rarely rusty or brown before the beginning of winter. That would actually rather fit the "yellow/golden" definition rather than anything else.
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>>3148564
I am not fighting here, just posting as I find meanings. Some do support the yellow/golden idea, and it also fits the mud river theme (Yellow River in China is also named after mud).
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>>3133643
Shit like this makes the idea of a race war all the more appealing
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>>3133643
>Aphrodite is as white as it can get
Is BBC implying that white is the apex of beauty and poc-belles aren't pretty? That's pretty racist and I hope someone will get fired for this error.
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>>3148535
Kirikou right? It was pretty fun, voices are hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEY8BwbywLM

But I mean now that GoT put back fantasy on the menu, we could have some nice series or movies about Musa I, the songhai or the kingdom of Axum.
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>>3148786
pretty sure, it was, yeah.
Thanks.
Was pretty fun.
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>>3133643
>guaranteed responses.png

Ok, but who will play the best character Diomedes?
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>>3133643
>no Odysseus, Hera, Athena, Diomedes, or Aeneas
>they have Hermione but not Menelaus
What the actual fuck
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>>3142080
Under the terms of genocide, this is one of the criterion.
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Who the fuck is troilus again? Will Hector be black and have a white wife?
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>>3133643

The mycaneans were kind of the niggers in this war, so it makes sense.
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>>3149238
Troilus is one of the sons of Priam. He's famous for medieval stories about him and a made up love interest called Cressida.

>>3149238
Hector will probably be White, since he kills a Black guy. They'll only make him black, if they understand his role as the most sympathetic character.
Most women will probably not be black, since you wouldn't want to promote same race marriages
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>>3148535
French here, Kirikou has top tier esthetic too. I'd love more african themed stories.
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>>3148124
>>However, Zeus, the king of the gods, desired her, and came to her in the form of golden rain which streamed in through the roof of the subterranean chamber and down into her womb.

To fugg, obviously.
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>look up the entire cast
>no Hector
>Troy story with no Hector
>What in the fuck
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>>3138225
Kill yourself.
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>>3133815
Why because they are special snow flake libtards who chimp out if an actor isn't the race they like, even though it has nothing to do with the characters?
Despite the fact no one banded God's of Egypt even though the period it was set in should have had more black people?
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>>3136586
There have been movies where it was set in Asia and the main was white though so what's your point?
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>>3152263

You referring to great wall? The director wanted Matt Damon, he wasn't forced to add a white guy.
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>>3136774
Except the dude who cucks him is still white so...
Why do we even car, can we at least just see how the actors do before we judge? The black actors could be the saving grace of this film if it turns out to be shit, or the best part of it if it doesn't suck How will you know if you don't give it a chance?
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>>3148121
Zeus fucks Aphrodite? and Helen?
What type of mythology did you read you ignorant pleb? This as to be bait.im actually going to report your post to prevent the tread of miseducation and splerging.
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>>3148207
It's 2017! of course Achilles and Patrocles will be gay. That's why I find it funny anyone is bitching about racemixing or whites being"cucked" in this. Plus it's more "progressive" since apparently the black community is the least accepting of gays than any other nonmuslim group.
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>>3152271
No other movies way before that and before you were born too, kid.
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>>3133643
>cast a black guy as the out-of-control thug

racist much bbc?
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>>3136586
The Chinese would never allow it. They already hate diversity. As an Asian, I dont understand why whites keep accepting these shitskin refugees and cucking themselves in their own media.
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>>3152307

Hey grandpa, we are in a new era. Not really fair to go back to the old days when shit was alright to be openly racist in film.

>>3152355

If a black wants to live in China they have to be rich as fuck, or live in a quarantine area in southern China.
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>>3152355
It isn't "our" media. All Western Countries are run by international capital.
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>>3152355
>The Chinese would never allow it.

The Chinese actively try to hire American actors to play in their movies set in China, and make up contrived reasons for a European to be there.
They also have non-Chinese actors, Korean and Japanese for example, play Chinese.
When that Vietnamese doctor got beat up by an American airline company, the Chinese media and social media were quickly to make him Chinese for the sake of outrage.

tl;dr China don't care about your SJW shit, triggered cuck.
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>>3153186

Viets are basically Cantonese Chinese. They were considered a Chinese tribe til the French took over. Even after that plenty of Chinese came over.
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>>3153186
>Chinese actively try to hire American actors to play in their movies set in China, and make up contrived reasons for a European to be there
Why? There are no Europeans whining for more "diversity" or trying to get people fired or boycotted due to a lack of "white faces" or "inclusion".

I would hate to see some totally out of place token white guy character inserted into asian kino in some corny attempt to appeal to my demographic.

>triggered cuck
I am just pointing out your bullshit, the same when I see someone use lorica segmentata in the wrong era. You absolutely flip out over this and project these feelings onto me, but believe me you are the least of my problems and I am just curious and amused by it.
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>>3152307
Yeah, its because the movies are aimed at western audiences so a white guy is needed, or felt to be needed, to make the movie "relatable" to the western audience.
It's not because theyre forcing white diversity into films
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>>3133641
>another fucking racebait thread
Go to /tv/ you retards. Saged.
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>>3153339
Its a historical movie thread, not a race thread.
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>>3138165
>How do you know the actor doesn't fit, you haven't seen him play yet.

he doesn't look Greek in a still frame why would he look more Greek in motion?
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>>3153283

They hire famous whites to be tokens because of their star power, so its all about bringing in more money.
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>>3154877
But this guy does?
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>>3155856

Well the Iliad described him as having blondish red hair.
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>>3155896
The greeks described all the heroes as such, its just an old way of saying "he was a big deal", tying to liken him to gods and light and such.
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>>3155856

Pitt was perfect casting for Achilles, who was famously handsome and blonde.
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>BBC keeps triggering racist fucks

Good bless the Queen
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>>3155956

So what? That's how he was described on the source.
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>obvious Germanic/Celt looking actors playing Italians/Greeks

This actually triggers me.
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>>3156000
Right? With an african actor, everyone knows this isn't meant to be authentic, but with some german you KNOW that there will be people thinking this is how the guy looked.
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>>3155956
That's not even true. Herakles and Perseus, arguably the greatest heroes of Greek mythology, weren't described as blond.
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>>3156059

Odysseus as well.
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>>3133641
Well that can't be right. A BBC historical production with white pe--

>>3133643
Oh there we go.
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>>3133643
WE WUZ GODZ N SHIET MAYNE
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>>3133643
REEEEEE WHY ARE THEY BLACK ANCIENT GREEKS SHOULD ALWAYS BE PLAYED BY BLONDE AND BLUE EYED GERMANICS
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>>3156799
>Lol Europeans playing Europeans is ridiculous so that means casting a fucking South African Bantu as a European is acceptable.
Getting real sick of you disingenuous, post-modern when it's convenient, anti-white faggots.
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>>3156849

If they were born there are they not European :^)
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>>3133643
Why dont they ever cast Diomedes.

WHY!?!
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>>3157245

He's can't be boiled down into a meme character, just look at Ajax.
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>>3155956
You're grasping really hard to try to excuse this as anything other than retarded pandering. Might be time to just be honest with yourself.
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>>3133791
The problem isn't so much the change of race, it's that it's always changing to the same race, if all movies were replacing European peoples with native Americans that would be hated on as well.
It clearly pushes the same false history people are trying to get taught in schools for purely ideological reasons.
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>>3138146
An alien is cg nowadays. So should achilles be?
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>>3156799
How about they just hire Greek or Med people?

Maybe even some black Irish
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>>3148786
Why is French animation so awesome?
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>>3152355
Actually, the Chinese like white people. They respect them and think of them as civilized people, much like they think of themselves. It goes back to Han times when they thought of Rome as another China (Daqin - translated "Great Qin"). They do not like niggers though, they think of them as literal animals.
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>>3156000
This triggers me just as much. Why can't they cast actors that actually look like the are supposed to be playing the role, especially in historical or historical myth films.

I may be autistic, but is breaks my immersion.

If you want a movie about snowniggers, make one about Germanic tribes, or vikings or some shit.

If you want a movie about actual niggers, make one about Mali, or Nubia or some shit.

Who the fuck wants these "diverse" casts in their history movies. Certainly not people who like history, that's for sure.
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>>3147551
I thought she was auctioned off, and agememnon was like "better make sure my brother gets this bitch"

Also, I think Neoptolomus was a ginger, so was menalaus, but Achilles was blonde.
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>>3157495
>Why can't they cast actors that actually look like the are supposed to be playing the role, especially in historical or historical myth films.

because people still got mad when alexander siddig was hannibal
people still god mad when ghassan massoud was saladin

MUH ANCESTORS THO faggotry is too powerful on all sides
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>>3156799
You do realize there are plenty of actual Greeks you can use, right?
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>>3158018
Name 10 good greek actors, who can speak good english,and are within budget constraints.
I repeat: good, cheap, and can speak english, greek actors.

England is exporting so many actors to the USA specifically because they are cheap and can speak english. American actors of comparable skill and recognition can charge literally 10x as much for a movie than english do.
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>>3158321

So shoot it in Greek, atleast it'll be closer to what they actually spoke.
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>>3159809
Yeah, and kill people for real, extra authenticity for the autists.
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>>3159809
No, reconstruct the Greek of the time like how kek Gibson did for The Passion and Apocolypto
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>>3159929
>two flops that half the cinemas in the country banned and nobody wanted to advertise
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>>3159935
They still did pretty well.
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>>3159929
>>3159935
>>3159947
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvVWiDsPWQ

>implying you wouldn't watch a movie spoken in this dialect
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>>3159935

Shit ton of people saw the passion, and apocalypto is a good movie for the language alone
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