So are the tankie memes true? was it the kulaks who caused this shit or was it commies being incompetent bumble fucks.
>>3129555
>literally export all grain, including seed grain for planting next year
>it was le kulaks!
>>3129555
>kulaks
pure fucking meme
>>3129555
>7.000.000
No. 3.5-4.5 million at most.
>>3129598
estimates range from 2-12 million, why do you think it's at most 4.5?
>>3129598
It is estimated that it was over 16.5 million.
>>3129615
>not 22,6M
Raus, you fucking tankies.
>>3129615
Holodomor is the 32-33 one. 21-22 was because of ww1's effects & commies confiscating grain, 46-47 was a result of ww2 & a drought
it was actually around 900 trillion
on a serious note it was alsmot certainly not intentional, ukraine was developed into industrial heartland of USSR and it was the most well-off republic consistently all the way until dissolution
>>3129635
>not intentional
>commies take every bit of grain from peasants in an effort to collectivize agriculture
>anyone who "steals" their own grain in an effort to not starve will be arrested or executed by the state
>3 year long process of collectivizing everything the farmers own
>Stalin wanted to fuck over the kulaks because they were anti soviet and he thought they would lead any potential uprising
>unintentional
>>3129635
>it was the most well-off republic consistently
>quarter of the population dies in one year
Back to /leftypol/ you go
>>3129667
>Anti-commies unironically calling peasants who employed others "kulaks"
Shame on you.
>>3129555
> le kulak meme
Gommies can't comprehend these people were just about normie middle class.
Why gommies are so dumb? They fear historical warrior?
>>3129710
And it's just a coincidence that the SSR with the biggest surplus of grain (Ukraine) suffered 70% of the war deaths. Yeah sure
>>3129555
Intentional genocide by Stalin with kulaks having a part by hoarding grain and killing their livestock rather than feed Reminder that all foreign food aid was turned away
>>3129555
>So are the tankie memes true? was it the kulaks who caused this shit.
They deserved lel
>>3129555
yep... soviets harshly punished any attempts.
It was ethnical cleansing by soviets to put Ukrainians in place under Moscow foot.
>>3129555
that is well established fact that commies are always at fault. That wasnt incompetency, but intentional shitfest.
it did not happen but the kulaks deserved it
>most of deaths happen in early spring
>in ukraine
>fucking ukraine
There is 0 excuse for starving in the most fertile place in the world. Literally just walk into the woods and pick up the free food and eat it.