Was Saladin really such a cool dude?

>Invaded the holy land until it reached to the point where the crusades can't retake it back

Absolutely a cool guy.

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A Kurd who was actually respected by arabs

even europeans at the time thought he was the perfect cool dude

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>>3122669
*peacefully hands back Jerusalem to the christians because Frederick II is such a cool dude*

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>establish the only real independent Kurdish dynasty
>didn't even last a century before Turkic Mamluks took over and created one of the wealthiest and powerful empires of the time that would keep the Mongol invaders in check

Didn't he murder his brothers to gain the throne?

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*executes your people*

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>>3122670
The "kurds and arabs hate eachother" meme is propaganda pushed by (((commies))) and (((feminists)))

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The guy lost most battles with the crusaders, but of course he had the upper hand since he was fighting on Muslim territory and the crusaders had minimal support from Christendom that was thousands of kilometers away.

King Richard basically wiped the floor with Saladin.

tl;dr: praising Saladin is like praising an autistic kid for completing the Special Olympics

He treated his prisoners fairly well.

>>3122905
you're using that meme wrong, ahmed

>>3122957
This.

Even the arabs thought he was a loser until Kaiser Bill visited his vandalized and ill treated tomb and acted shocked.

>>3122669
Crusaders would probably destroy it like they did in the first crusade.

>>3122683
That wasn't Saladin tho

>>3123451
I know what I'm doing

>>3123444
*executes templar and hospitaller knights*
nothin personnel kid

>>3123497
Whats wrong with executing war criminals? Prisoner refers to regular prisoners of war

>>3122662
>respected by Arabs
>respected by non-Arab Muslims
>respected by Christians
>respected by CRUSADERS
I mean, if the Crusaders had a reason to hate him they would have wouldn't they?

What are some essential reads on Saladin?

>>3122670
An arabized kurd with some arab ancestry

>>3122662
he was pretty much a normal ruler, quite successful militarily and his most significant historical legacy was ending shia rule in egypt.

he was somehow mythologized in europe as the epitome of the "wise oriental king" and then later he got the pizza effect treatment: he was largely forgotten in the middle east but when arabs found out that westerners respected him they reappropriated his legacy and developed their own mythology around him. (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7slXno_uxls)

kurds later did the same thing when they found out he was kurdish even though at his time of course there was no such thing as a kurdish national consciousness and saladin wouldn't have cared much about his ethnic background.

kingdom of heaven was a big deal in keeping this mythological image of him ingrained in people.

>>3123521
Maybe it's sort of a Rommel thing.
Your allies idolise you because you're a great leader (or made out to be so) while your enemies do the same to ustify their own losses.
It's a lot easier to sell a defeat against a gentleman-scholar genious than an evil barbarian.

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>implying

>>3122662
No he killed templars who surrendered because they did not fear death and would not be ransomed
Thus disrespecting the order of things

>>3123497
*says you can go free*
*sends brother to kill you*
God damn the Saladin was a good guy meme needs to die

>>3122957
>The guy lost most battles with the crusaders
In one campaign against a clearly superior commander. He beat the shit out of their attempts to invade Egypt prior to the 3rd crusade.