The Peloponnesian War

Persia
t. John Green

>good guys

not such thing in history

>>3121801
In this case the Spartans since they were working to break the Athenian league which was abusively collecting tribute from rival city states.

Athens claims they would use it to protect them from Persia, but for the most part it was to enrich Athens itself.

Of course Spartans ended up becoming the next imperialists after and would get BTFO by Thebes.

>>3121801
Athens
Muh cultural contributions

>>3121824
Can this be a John Green hate thread, I had to watch those for my college history classes and it was pretty bad.

Spartans. All Greek History we know is attic propaganda.

>>3121876
>I had to watch those for my college history classes
What do you mean HAD to?

>>3121880
The Professors will put a Green video on and have questions and work related to it.

Not hard to figure out.

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>>3121880

>>3121861
>Athenian league
>abusive
it's a meme. a lot of the tributaries were satisfied with athenian hegemony.

>>3121879
because the fucking attics were the only ones who cared about hellas enough to write it down. spartans should have stopped being edgy primitivists and write down their own side of the story

>>3121801
Macedon, the Greek states were weak and Persian vassals. Kings, not assemblies of the citizens, ok praise zeus

>>3122813
>implying macedon didn't have assemblies
read more, faggvt

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>Peloponnesian war
Utter cretin, quick two straw polls for the only Greek war that matters
https://strawpoll.com/pw93c2ag
https://strawpoll.com/82rb8pfb

>>3121801

We can all agree that the Corinthians were the bad guys.

>>3121801
#imwithalcibiades

Spartans; the athenians were bourgeois fucks who didn't produce anything and were only wealthy because of collecting tribute and arbitrage

>>3122966
Are you really trying to apply your Marxist drivel to classical Greece or was this just a cheeky bit of ironic shitposting?

>>3121801
For once, the Spartans. They became the villain afterwards though.

>>3121876
>college history classes
>>3121904
>Professors will put a Green video on and have questions and work related to it
You gotta be fucking kidding me. What kind of worthless diploma mill did you even attend? One of those online college scams?

>>3121834
this

>>3121879
>xenophon
>attic propaganda
Get buggered.

>>3121824
Obviously the Persians

>Greek terrorist attack your clay
>you attack them back
>bleeding heart libs whine about it
>Greece becomes a destabilized shithole when left to their own devices

>>3122966
What did spartans ever produce?

>>3122994
Check your Athenian privilege, bro.

>>3123531
This. Greece was the Afghanistan of the era.

>>3121861
>after

The whole reason for the spartan ebin warrior meme to exist is because they were imperialistic cunts to their neighbours.

>>3122966
Spartans were literal parasites.

>>3123578
Hopefully the muslims don't get an Alexander

>>3122790
Maybe before Mytilene they were