Honour

could there be trust without honor?

>>3121180
>So, what's honour anyway
Imaginary concept like all others
>Why do people care about it so much to kill relatives and themselves in their name
Because humans are not rational beings
>Was he right?
Pretty much
>>3121266
>>3121289
Shut up LARPer

>>3121266
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

>>3121295
How are humans not rational?

>>3121314
They're born irrational
Society in which they live isn't based on logic and reason

>>3121335
but it is

>>3121342
It isn't because there is no absolute logic and reason, everyone has their own version of reality

>>3121283
Would you say a person is honourable because you can trust on him?

Or

Would you say you can trust a person because he's honourable?

>>3121356
individually maybe but as a species we do act rational

>>3121180
Cattle die and kinsmen die,
thyself too soon must die,
but one thing never will die,
the good name one has earned.

Basically, I would rather die an honorable death than damned by the living. Hail.

>>3121360
the 2nd one definitely

>>3121363
when it comes to most basic biological stuff yes, we eat sleep and drink in order to survive

But in every other societal regard no

>>3121330
It's honor to them, no matter which way you slice it. Honor is upholding what you believe to be morally right, encompassing anything justifiable as honorable too.

Example: Murdering infidels.
They don't believe the same thing you do, so it is an absolute necessity that you do everything in your power to convert them to the right way of thinking. It would be dishonorable to allow others to continue to be wrong, considering that being wrong means an eternity of suffering. Don't worry about the innocents. Upholding your honor and the honor of your God will absolve you of your sins on earth when you go to heaven.