What makes the black slavery that took place between 1619 to

>>3112218
Nothing.

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chattel slavery that created an entire system of racial inferiority as a post hoc justificaiton

>What makes the black slavery that took place between 1619 to 1865 in the United States more important than all the other slavery throughout history?
Is this something that those liberals say? Why, I'll bet it is!

>>3112218
It isn't, people (barely) cares because USA sperging about it non stop in movies, it wasn't even an Issue in LatAm until recently because anglo retards spilling they autism.

>>3112218

In America it's more important because it was in America. Outside of America it's not more important and nobody says it is.

>>3112218
Because it's a relatively recent phenomenon that directly affects 1/10 of the population of the world superpower.

Absolutely nothing. It's all a load of hyped up, victim mentality, propaganda bullshit. Africans living in America are insanely lucky people, with everything considered. They live in the one of the greatest and least racist countries in existence, where they are pandered to constantly. Nowhere else does this happen.

>>3112218

Americans thinking that they are the center of the world.

>>3112256

What about all the Irish slaves? What about all the white child factory workers? Where are their reparations?

>>3112267
They are not Africans living in America. They're Americans.

>>3112302
They all got assimilated. Black people were strongly (and often violently) discouraged from assimilating into the mainstream until the 1960s-1970s, by which point the damage had been long done.

>>3112302
The Irish weren't chattel slaves. You couldn't 'sell' an indentured servant like property. They were essentially fulfilling a contract to work X number of years in exchange for food/board and passage to America and while they were fulfilling this agreement they still enjoyed the rights of a freeborn individual. African slaves had no such luxury. They were literally considered property.

>>3112323
really makes you think

>>3112218
It is a thing stupid burgers point at to say that western civilization or white people are bad.

>>3112335
Not to mention that an Irish person can marry into an Anglo family and/or change their last name. You'd never know they were Irish.

>>3112218

Because one tenth of America is black because of it. If you live in america its still relevent to this very day because basically everyone has been deeply effected by it. From the southern states in the revolutionary war, to the horrid civil war, to the cultural changes to the 60s, to contemporary issues.

If you live in the United States then your lives have been partly revolving around black people directly or indirectly for over 200 years.

>>3112218
Because the United States still exists and it's THE superpower so it has a certain level of reputation and public relations to maintain.
/pol/ is a bunch of retards for not understanding this.

>>3112228
>entire system of racial inferiority as a post hoc justificaiton

This is a good key point. Slavery for example in Egypt's heyday or in Roman times was often the product of military conquest or tribute. Roman citizens of good standing had access to slaves, but the slaves themselves were not intrinsically inferior and supposedly born for that subordinate role. They were just slaves because their side lost in war, or in the case of children, sickeningly, because their parent's lost.

Black slavery was contextualized within a "scientific" doctrine of racial hierarchy, which employed cartoonishly outdated methods such as phrenology (the attempt to discern differences in personality and intellect based on variations in small bumps on the surface of the cranium.)

So really, you can see how the slaveholders in America and Europe really sat down and thought long and hard about how they were going to rationalize their slavery. It wasn't lost on these good "Christian" men that the practice of slavery in the modern world was becoming rapidly and intensely distasteful.

>>3112218
It happened in the USA.

>>3112389

The funny thing is blacks are objectively less intelligent than whites. They have less active neurons in their brain. Their frontal lobes are underdeveloped. Everyone knows this, people are just too pussy to say anything.

>>3112453
>Everyone knows this, people are just too pussy to say anything.

Hmm, literally can't argue with that logic.

>>3112223
cant thred you own post new friendo :^)

>>3112218
I'm guessing because of how recent it was in history

>>3112218
The Jews who live in the US in the current year

The U.S. government stopped the import of slaves from Africa in 1808 deciding to use the ones they already had (go check then !)

>>3112218
Because their own people traded their people for material objects.

>>3112218
Jewish marketing.

>>3112570
Nah, there's slavery today elsewhere and nobody cares as much. Location is more important.

>>3112218
It's important American history, so we study in America. Are you retarded?

>>3112850
i don't think there is a country in the world today that officially allowes slavery

>>3112389
My problem with slavery in the US was that it was going to be rendered irrelevant eventually, sure the south depended on slavery to keep up their economy based on agriculture but wouldn't they have suffered just as much when the US industrialized? What would happen then? Wouldn't their economy collapse anyways and be stuck with a bunch slaves that aren't as effective as harvesting as the technology that was being developed? I just cannot see a reason for slavery being justified in the US.

>>3112453
Man, I wonder what went wrong down the road, are there any other groups that share these traits?

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>>3112218

The fact that it was violently abolished in the name of the equality of the soul of man before GOD.

>>3112389
>slavery is okay as long as you aren't racist about it!

I hate this shitty logic.

My ancestors were shit kicking literal serfs until the late 19th century. My other ancestors were under the boot of Ottomans for centuries.

Where is my gibs?

Black people in america were basically serfs for a while. Big whoop. Join the club.

>>3112907
How many levels of cognitive dissonance do you have to be on to interpret that post in this way? Making a distinction between past slavery and how it was practiced in modern America is not excusing the former.

>>3112914
Your culture has presumably had centuries (if not millennia) to mature, and I'm guessing you've got a nice homeland in the Balkans.

>>3112228
>>3112228
this. I will also add the fact this was all happening in the supposed "land of the free." The land with a constitution that espouses liberty and declaration of independence all about equality of all men and right to pursuit of happiness. At least Rome or any of the prior civilizations that practiced slavery weren't fucking hypocrites. So on effect, it was so much worse simply by the fact that it happened in America.

>>3112920
How do you know a people who were literally conquered and sold into slavery en masse in ancient times wouldn't have been considered racially inferior anyway?

Half of the thing motivating the african slave trade was that africans were thought to be the only people capable of resisting malaria and working in the brutally humid and hot environs of the american south and the Caribbean anyways.

>>3112218
Because the United States are more important than any other country, and a significant amount of people there descend from those slaves.

>>3112943
>Half of the thing motivating the african slave trade was that africans were thought to be the only people capable of resisting malaria and working in the brutally humid and hot environs of the american south and the Caribbean anyways.

And this is how it initially was in 17th Century America. When the slave population of the Southern colonies started to skyrocket in the mid-to-late 18th Century, then you started getting all of the white supremacist and racialist stuff.

>>3112943
Because there's literally no evidence that ancient people constructed an elaborate psuedo-scientific racial hierarchy in order to moralize chattel slavery exclusively practiced on a particular ethnic group. You can go back and read the writings of ante-bellum southerners who advanced the argument that negros were a subservient race of people that nature had made unfit for anything other than menial labor under the supervision of their white betters. THAT kind of slavery DID NOT exist in ancient rome or greece.

Even the Ottoman style of slavery wasn't a racially exclusive chattel slavery, in the case of Janissaries they were groomed to take on important positions within the civil service and clearly not considered a kind of inferior race of people.

>>3112453
I'm sure it's true just because you and your "friends" on /pol/ say so, anon.
>>3112850
>>3112907
man,all,these what aboutisms. All these conclusions being jumped to inappropriately. Are you sure one race is the one with all the idiots? As far as im,concerned, there are so many idiots found within moat,races of people that trying to separate race based on intelligence let alone IQ is a feudal effort.

>>3112974
The Arab slave traders felt the same way about their black slaves. They also castrated African males in the process.

But yeah it's those evil white Europeans that invented the idea of racism in slavery. They really are evil supergeniuses to be the first to come up with everything bad.

>>3113006
>But yeah it's those evil white Europeans that invented the idea of racism in slavery. They really are evil supergeniuses to be the first to come up with everything bad.

Strawman.

>>3112943
1. the malaria-sickle cell theory wasn't even solidified then.
2. your entire post still makes no sense. You're doing mental gymnastics to make conclusions,about the past we just don't have enough evideo cell to make in order to support your original argument. that's not how it works.

>>3113012
It's not a strawman when people legitimately believe that.

>>3112218
Niggers are the whiniest people on the planet. All other slaves enjoy their new found freedom.

>>3112218
cultural relevance

>>3112218
What makes American presidents more important than all the other presidents throughout history?

>>3113006
>The Arab slave traders felt the same way about their black slaves
Not the guy you're replying to but do you have a source for this claim?

>>3113026
White laborers were dropping like flies in the South. Africans weren't imported as slaves "cuz dey is dumb subservient niggers" but because people made a wild (correct) guess that they'd be better suited to the hot climate.

In any event the idea that ancient slavers harbored no racial animosity to their slaves is pretty silly.

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>>3113040
This

>>3113006
they castrated them to protect harems. This was a common practice with other slaves and on other places in the middle east and Eurasia. Fuck off.
Everything else you said has no other evidence to support it.
Regardless, slavery fucking sucks and is horrid, it should not have even existed at all in approachin rhe,modern era and definitely NOT in Christian societies.

>>3112218
weren't American slaves treated a lot worse than most slaves throughout history?

>>3113055
http://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1335&context=ccr

>>3113084
Do you hold Christian societies to a higher moral standard than Islamic or other societies? Why is that, I wonder? Your biases are showing with every post you make.

>>3113062
Fine. However, to your second point, you've little proof that the race of the slave mattered even nearly as much as the fact that the society they lived had been subjugated. That the oppressors felt their culture was superior by right of might, and thus they had the privilege to do as they pleased. Any culture that wasnt theirs (and by some extension race )could suffer the same fate.

>>3112974
>Even the Ottoman style of slavery wasn't a racially exclusive chattel slavery, in the case of Janissaries they were groomed to take on important positions within the civil service and clearly not considered a kind of inferior race of people.
Pretty sill desu, not every African slave ended up in the hellish conditions of the Mississippi Delta, plenty of African slaves ended up in the carolinas doing comparatively cushy farm work or ending up as carpenters and the like, many white masters freed their slaves in their slaves in their lifetime, freed black men communities are as old as the us itself in addition to the fact that freed blacks owned slaves themselves.

>>3113080
>looking at an ape
>thinking "hey that looks like me"
>get mad at people for it
It's like they're oppressing themselves

>>3113113
Islamic text states nothing against oppressing people qho,do not believe in Allah. Christianity does not.

>>3113062
>In any event the idea that ancient slavers harbored no racial animosity to their slaves is pretty silly.
You won't find any example of the kind of racially exclusive chattel slavery practiced on blacks in America in the pre-modern world. Individual prejudice and an entire system of forced labor that justifies itself by claiming that a certain group of people identifiable by their skin color are naturally inferior and unfit as anything other than slaves are two entirely different things.

>>3113096
This says that while there was prejudice against blacks, there wasn't a consideration of blacks as a 'slave race' like what was advanced by the ante-bellum south.

>>3113146
who*

>>3112281
this

>>3113125
the ideology was still rooted systemically even if not everyone confirmed to it, you idiot. The same cannot be said of Ottomans and their black slaves with sufficient evidence outside speculation.

>>3113162
>>3113040
see>>3112929

>>3113176
I don't even know what this post means. A minority of Ottoman janissaries went on to become powerful state administrators. A minority of African slaves went on to become wealthy enough to own plantations with slaves of their own.

Same difference.

>>3113176
Yeah you're right, I guess it's better to be castrated by a non-racist owner than work as a house servant for a racist one.

This poster >>3113209 is experiencing some fierce cognitive dissonance right now.

>>3113225
Not an argument.

>>3113208
you don't understand this post because you're an idiot.
here's a hint: Start by looking up the definition of ideology and systemic. Then read my post again.
The smartest question to ask would have been "what did you mean by ideology " but seeing youre basically brain dead, I'm not surprised.

>>3113243
That's a lot of words to say literally nothing.

>>3113242
Neither is your own post. You're not addressing the systemic differences between Arab and American slavery, you're making extreme examples to try and reconcile the dissonance between your idea of what slavery was like and the reality.

>>3113242
Neither was that ridiculous what about ism you just posted. Slavery is shit. Slavery done where all the mental gymnastics and and rumination in the world wete done to justify it is lightly more appaling. More so when one of the countries practicing it was in the process of writing the Declaration of independence.

>>3112929
>I will also add the fact this was all happening in the supposed "land of the free."

Free as in the freedom of rational men to create rational societies and find higher pragmatisms than the screeching moralism of lower class priests.

You forget that for the most part, your race sold out your race. Slave traders prefer to deal with "already slaves" than the trouble to raid in an environment you don't have complete knowledge of.

PS Fun Fact: Slaves brought over hookworms which they were immune to. White people were not immune so the parasitized Southerners had a reputation for being overly laid back and lazy.

Free black man were literally more productive, per person, than white men down south. They had more energy and could work longer. But there was an extermination campaign and by 1950, hookworm infestations were a rarity or just didn't happen at all.

I wouldn't be surprised if half of their rhetoric was driven by their 'lazyness" in contrast to the black man's "vitality". The brains wanted perpetual control of the body and all that.

>>3113257
Nice argument. Regardless, you're still wrong and have failed to convince anyone of your view point.
Just fuck off already, brainlet.

>>3113267

So when are you going to complain about modern day slavery?

For such a valiant white knight of justice, why are you not going after those who literally have slavery at this moment?

Could it be that the US Govt is a infinite cavern of monies and if you guilt trip whitey enough....

>>3113276
>more cognitive dissonance
If you can't address the actual substance of the man's post then just stop posting. You're clearly not equipped for a serious discussion.

>>3113275
Can you tell me more about how great all non-white, non-American forms of slavery in the past and present were? Do you have any good books that discuss the superior forms of slavery practiced by non-whites? Thanks.

>>3113275
I literally don't even understand what the other guy is trying to argue (see: literally nothing)

Disparate peoples enslave and consider each other racially inferior all the time, the only unique thing about American chattel slavery was that the populations involved were extremely disparate

And even then I'd argue that the free black man lucky enough to own a plantation of his own was in a better position than one of the eunuch janissaries that was "lucky enough" to end up as a dickless life long servant of the sultan as a high level administrator

Deal with it

>>3113269
Nice mental gymnastics there my friend. I guess we are also to conveniently forget that dehumanization was a big part of slavery in America. But really trying to reinterpret what they meant when they said all men were created equal and have a right to life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? That's just low. Even for a,slavery apologist.
I did not forget Africans sold their enemy tribes and in some cases their own people (likely criminals or poor people of some sort). The Romans did as well to some extent (people in debt, kidnapped, etc). The difference is, as I will repeat and you can say all you want to reinterpreted the words, (this would be extremely hilarious if you are an avid 2nd amendment supporter btw) the latter 2 did not hypocritically create a nation or state based upon equality, freedom, and liberty for all.

>>3113290
>You're clearly not equipped for a serious discussion.

A woman okay, I'll know to avoid you.

>dehumanization was a big part of slavery in America.

Humans have been dehumanized since the neolithic and yet you want to bear special distress against group of people who lived in a short period?

Can we implement this in Africa? Your bantu ancestors killed a lot of people in their expansion. Are we going to rile up all of Africa into inter-tribal warfare? Surely that would be justice, right?

>>3113303
>Disparate peoples enslave and consider each other racially inferior all the time
see >>3113148
>You won't find any example of the kind of racially exclusive chattel slavery practiced on blacks in America in the pre-modern world. Individual prejudice and an entire system of forced labor that justifies itself by claiming that a certain group of people identifiable by their skin color are naturally inferior and unfit as anything other than slaves are two entirely different things.
This idea that all forms of slavery in the past were racially exclusive chattel slavery simply isn't true. Slavery in past times had mostly economic motives, there was no need for a moral or scientific justification, it was simply that might made right. Slavery in the US tried to foist a moralistic and psuedo-scientific foundation for keeping one particular racial group in chains and buying and selling them as property by claiming that that was where they belonged in the grand scheme of the universe.

You don't see that kind of slavery in Rome or Greece or the Ottoman empire.

>>3113337
>did not hypocritically create a nation or state based upon equality, freedom, and liberty for all.

Of course a dumb nigger wouldn't be able to understand the basic presumptions of people who lived 200+ years ago.

Your kind wasn't considered human. Oh no, a powerful tribe enslaved members of a weaker tribe. Get out the goy bucks for these poor people.

>extremely hilarious

Only niggers and women use "hilarious" outside informal conversation.

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>>3113365
What does that tell you when white Americans attempted to moralize away their attitudes to slavery while all other societies simply considered mass enslavement, serfdom, castrations, sex slaves simply the way of the world that doesn't even require any kind of justification?

>>3113411
>while all other societies
You mean during a time when most European countries at outlawed slavery entirely and Britain was using its navy to try and stop the slave trade?

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>>3113411
Did the Ottomans fight a civil war to bring an end to the practice of eunuchs and janissaries and harem sex slaves?

Cutting people's balls off after you took them as a slave was just an after thought to them, not moralizing necessary.

What's with white people and their constant moralizing and self criticism?

>>3113411

It means whites are hypocrites. Unlike anybody else in the world. So we should give "vibrant" people govt bucks because we are evil despite vibrant people committing rape against white people at far higher rates than the reverse.

It's okay. They only murder and rape because they are starving because the government didn't give enough money to sustain their average bodyweight of 350. We will get you through this turbulent time, black america.

>>3113425

European powers supported the confederacy because they wanted cotton.

It's almost like nations run on different considerations than individual goals within a nation.

>>3113438
>What's with white people and their constant moralizing and self criticism?

It means they feel empathy for outgroup people. Unlike a certain race that cannot do a one-on-one fight or understand why raping and killing a family is bad.

>>3113350
>>3113303
>>3113291
>>3113350
Are you all retarded? Are you all brain dead? Can grasp simple concepts? You asked a question:why do people make a big deal about slavery in America. We gave you an answer to htat question.
That doesn't mean that slavery of of it's self where ever it is practiced is good, doesn't mean it should be stopped. It doesn't mean we are applauding the the Ottomans, the Romans, the Egyptians, the Africans.
We are staying for the last fucking time, you braindead retards, that what made American slavery despite the fact that perhaps eunuchs' life was shit, despite the fact slaves could be fed to while animals in the colluseum for amusement, what makes slavery in America particularly frustrating and more apted to be talked about it's the following:
1. It happened in the supposed land of the free(hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty)
2.ONE race in particular was singled out , dehumanized, made to believe they were inferior, to justify their enslavement.
3. It was fairly modern as slavery in most other places as normalized in the past(NOT THAT IT WASN'T DESPICABLE) where conquered people would take up such identifies was falling out.
but I guess concepts such as these and principles are much to abstract for your tiny, underdeveloped, pathetic brains to understand.
4. The massive negatively affect that it has had on all blacks living in America to this day. And I know I know you will deny this and just keep saying how blacks are whiny and useless, but OP asked for an answer and we are giving him one.

>>3113446
>dude the whole world does worse stuff than America!
in reality most of Europe and even half of the United States itself had outlawed slavery recognizing it as a horrendous institutions, the south had no moral high ground and its condescending paternalistic outlook towards blacks in order to continue their 'peculiar institution' was an embarrassment to the enlightenment world

I don't know man. I feel like you're so deep in your particular ideology that you've lost the ability to even entertain objective reality.

>>3113479
>had no moral high ground and its condescending paternalistic outlook towards blacks in order to continue their 'peculiar institution' was an embarrassment to the enlightenment world
Oh those enlightened anglos and French! With their continent spanning imperialism and mass famines everywhere they went!

lmao kindly fuck off

>>3113468
>1. It happened in the supposed land of the free(hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty)

Stupid Nigger 101: Pretend that concepts had the same shape back then as they do now. They didn't imagine stupid niggers would have any success in interracial civic life.

>2.ONE race in particular was singled out , dehumanized, made to believe they were inferior, to justify their enslavement.

Which race? Bantu? Yoruba? You need to get more specific with this race shit.

>blah blah

Fuck me, you're a woman. Fucking A. Why are they so easy to pick out?

>And I know I know you will deny this and just keep saying how blacks are whiny and useless

Have you been homeless? Have you seen how people act without the panopticon of our shit society? There's far more truth and value in being racist than in assuming everybody's the same.

>in reality most of Europe and even half of the United States itself had outlawed slavery recognizing it as a horrendous institutions, the south had no moral high ground and its condescending paternalistic outlook towards blacks in order to continue their 'peculiar institution' was an embarrassment to the enlightenment world

Oh no, people want power and money but use language and concepts that mask the boldness of their greed!

This is unprecedented in history. You poor goys. I'm going to call Mr.Finkelstein and maybe we can set up reparations for you.


But beyond all the trolling, why can't a single black person take responsibility for anything? Their lying is far more awkward than just manning up and looking stoic. Every race has been a victim of slavery but only you make it a fucking industry based on white guilt.

>>3113468
Can't*
In of it's self*
Doesn't mean it shouldn't be stopped*
Wild* animals
Goodness I can't even focus when I'm arguing with you retards. I'm just so flabbergasted by such stupidity and inability to think critically an as a way to justify resenting another group of people.
I'm I'm not staying all whites are terrible btw, just the ones that tried to and are still trying to justify slavery and bigotry. It is terrible.

>>3113509
>It is terrible.

Woman.

"Words on the internet are terrible". A man couldn't be this retarded. He will make poor choices. Bad decisions. But he will not vomit anything as stupid sounding as this.

>>3113468
Q: what is Brazil?

>>3113468
>.ONE race in particular was singled out , dehumanized, made to believe they were inferior, to justify their enslavement.
White women were singled out by Barbary sex slavers.

Check and mate.

>>3113371
You're so tough. How do I become tough like you?

>>3113548

You live a rough life. Ain't two ways about it.

>>3113551
Life is rough in your basement, I'd imagine.

>>3113565

Mad diss. You go girl!

Seriously though, fuck you. You must be a massive try-hard2beclever cunt in real life.

>>3113508
I don't care what those assholes and you fucking imaged about blacks when they wrote it you peice of shit. That makes it even worse actually. Intellectual dishonesty as I said.
>Which race
You are a fucking hypocrite. You know exactly what I'm talking about and don't fucking play games with me. I mean all black;whites at the time made no such distinctions and you know it you lying, intellectually dishonest, sac of shit.

I'm not asking for shit. I'm only answering OPs questions for the last fucking time, you idiot!
You're argument was complete shit and only further proved my points.
I didn't even say the last post you are green texting, you moron.

I don't care if it was just greed(it wasn't just greed btw, seeing how they treated blacks afterward), it fucked them over and caused adoption of literal pseudoscience and all types of mental gymnastics to justify it.
Your comment represents exactly the kind of negative affect we are all speaking of in respect to blacks and the massive impact of slavery that occured. Seriously, fuck off. I dont care if you agree with me on that point or not, I already predicted you wouldn't. It's actually kind of hilarious how right is was lol; now shoo shoo

>>3113507
>whataboutism
You seem to be incapable of actually addressing any point without immediately resorting to the fallacy of pointing fingers at something else.

You're an ideological crusader, not a willing participant in an intelligent discussion.

>>3113515
Nice straw man.
What the fuck does my choice of vocabulary have to do with anything?
Go ahead continue to make up reasons why you shouldn't have to consider the logic behind other people's post for maximum damage control. It's amusing. More so considering your's lacks any logic to speak of.

>>3113585
>You know exactly what I'm talking about and don't fucking play games with me.

Oooo, I can see your higher-than-average testosterone levels coming up. Be careful. Don't want to

But really...look here woman, if you want white cock just go on tinder or something. I don't think you can get off from white shut-ins telling you how much of an animal you are

>You're an ideological crusader, not a willing participant in an intelligent discussion.

Nobody ever is a willing participant lol. Don't you know humans? They want flair.

>>3113595
The point being made is empty bullshit. "Enlightened" French and anglos have no ground to criticize american chattel slavery considering all of the stuff they were into at the same time, and doubly so because they were *that* close to supporting the south anyway for the cotton. You're appealing to some kind of moral authority that doesn't even exist.

>>3113615
>moral arguments against X aren't valid because Y exists

>>3113609
>What the fuck does my choice of vocabulary have to do with anything?

Nothing really but that uncontrollable female response to overreact really shows.

PS: If you want to fuck me, just ask.

Your fate is being mongrelized.

America belongs to the Amerindians. Subhuman drama matters won't avoid this fact.

Go back to europe, euchimpean.

>>3113529
Still horrid.They weren't considered inferior and no mental gymnastics was used to justify any inferiority though. That was kind of more...dare I say this without being called a feminist, sexual objectification of women. They were still seen as human most of all, as badly as they were treated, and the negative effects still not as long lasting.
>>3113517
Slavery in Brazil still used blacks. And slavery of the natives there stopped before blacks in America. Even after it stopped though, there was still amassive negative affect on the people living there with respect to ideology of inferiority of others to whites. Actually, Brazil is not a good example for you lol. Blacks are treated like shit there thanks to this same concept too. Look it up.

>>3113612
Can you leave this board already? You obviously have no really arguments other than insults.
I never get mad but /pol/tards just make my head hurt where ever they invade with their lack of logic. I only used insults to respond to all your strawmen. What's worse is they actually think they are intelligent and know what they are talking about. The worst kind of stupid imaginable, the fool who thinks himself wise.
>Nobody ever is a willing participant lol. Don't you know humans? They want flair.
Again responding to a post I didn't write. And my God, you're an edgelord. Seriously fuck off already. Shuu ! Just leave you offer nothing of intellectual value to this board, please?
>>3113626
Kek. Seriously, just leave you're embarrassing yourself.

>>3113736

Blow me.

>>3113468
They are just as poisoned by ideology and a near constant "combative" debate as the "left" they rail against.
It's because you provided a view that differed from their narrative they can do nothing but spout off counterpoints instead of arguments.

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The richest Afro-American children receive lower academic grades than the poorest white children.
Does this dismantle the theory that socio-economic differences between the races account for differences in academic score?

>>3114732
But the same thing happens when you compare whites to Asians. Perhaps consider other factors(particularly when talking of poor people) such as neighborhood and support system.

Besides this thread is about slavery being horrible, how does this argue for or against everything being discussed here?

Sage.

>>3114775
>the same thing happens when you compare whites to asians
Unrelated, and if whites are intellectually inferior to asians then so be it. The asians should feel free to look down on whites. As a side note, poor asians tend to be equal to poor/middle class whites.
>Neighbourhood
Gated communities in uptown Los Angeles mostly.
>Support systems
There are more government programs and trusts dedicated to supporting ethnic minorities than white students. And the Appalachian areas have none at all.

>how does this argue for or against everything being discussed here
If Africans are inferior intellectually on a biological basis then slavery is justified in the same way that having Oxen pulling carts is justified.

>>3114841
I assume you use IQ to determine this inferiority, right? There are white people who have low IQ too. So it would be justified to turn them into slaves?

>>3114887
If they are mentally retarded enough to fail to participate in society, then putting them to work if they are able seems both efficient and appropriate.
However the vast majority are not, and the reverse is true for blacks. In the US, jobs that make you eligible for taxation are extremely rarely held by blacks.

>>3114841
But your post is exactly why everyone with sense is saying slavery in America was seen in a more negative light. The insistence on inferiority and comparison of people to animals in order to justify it...you essentially answered OPs question for us.
It wasn't even assumed that slavery should every be justified btw, everyone in this thread assumed it was a terrible practice, idiot.
Your argument here is way off base.
But you didn't post a source for that.
So if Asians deicded to enslave "white pigus," it would be justified? If they randomly decided it based on the fact that on average Asians are majoring in fields that make most if the money and liberal arts shit?
Btw the high IQ meme is only relevant for east Asians. I hope you know this? Meanwhile Indians are doing pretty well in the U.S.

>>3114920
>However the vast majority are not, and the reverse is true for blacks. In the US, jobs that make you eligible for taxation are extremely rarely held by blacks
This is just untrue and you couldn't even post a source. Define"rarely" btw, you liar.

>>3114920
You're fucked in the head. There's no way you're a normal person.

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>>3112218
We feel that way because we're constantly reminded of the horrors of slavery by the existence of African-Americans. They are in a way a living reminder of the slavery that took place.

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>>3114934
Slavery is seen in a negative light because most people believe that blacks are not inferior in anyway. And it is inherently wrong to subjugate an equal. However, looking human and making (mostly)understandable noise does not make you an equal.
>everyone in this thread assumed it was a terrible practice
forced and assumed consensus is the death of progress.
>if asians decided to enslave whites
They couldn't. White societies could defend themselves because of military strength born through intellect. Just as we would find it difficult to subjugate and enslave China.

Pic gives some semblance of official source. I'm sure you can imagine just how much of the black population is in the upper percentiles.

>>3114979
The elite class should enslave you. You should be put to work instead of wasting time in here. Just because there was some progress now peasants like you think they're equal to people who descend from wealthy families.

>>3115015
I descend from a rather wealthy family actually, the Romers. Aside from that, your comment is rather nonsensical. Slavery is justified for those too stupid to contribute - and it just so happens that certain ethnic groups qualify.

>>3114979
>Slavery is seen in a negative light because most people believe that blacks are not inferior in anyway.
Huh? Were you even paying attention to this entire thread???? No! Slavery in ROME, Egypt, and Ottoman empire is seen as terrible whether they based it solely on race or not(they didn't). Everyone is saying all slavery is bad, numb nuts. The argument is why people casted it in a MORE negative light in the U.S. slavery is always gonna be seen in a negative light from here on, like it or not. You are not allowed to own another person and fuck you if you think it is ok.

Blacks paying taxes is definitely not "rare" as anyone not on welfare pays taxes to some degree, and no you racist, not all blacks are on welfare. Not even most, epseically when we start talking about African immigrants.
I didn't say china had to conquer you, dumb ass. I'm talking about buying of only white slaves just as it was with west Africa. Then. Justifying continued use of those white slaves through inferiority and dehumanization. Europe and America didn't have to enslave all of Africa to start buying slaves you idiot.
There is no justification for enslaving another human being. You're just a hateful bigot. It is immoral regardless.
>Inb4 stirnerfag posting.

>>3114979
Do you have an updated version of that image? It's almost 15 years old at this point, and I'm sure the numbers have shifted some

>>3115037
>You are not allowed to own another person
I'm aware. I argue that it should be, because not all people are equal biologically.
>slavery is always going to be seen in a negative light
By whom? Those in this society you associate with? The vague majority? A meaningless statement.
>fuck you if you think it is ok
another meaningless statement. I do think it is ok.
>blacks paying taxes is definitely not 'rare'
It most certainly is. Blacks constitute the poorest groups in society, and the poorest groups pay almost no tax.
>buying only white slaves
For whites to be in the slave market (like the Berbers and the ottomans) there would have to be domination by force of some kind. In today's society, China would not be able to do that in any significant manner. European countries however, could if they chose too overwhelm, subjugate and enslave the far poorer and weaker nations of Africa.
>there is no justification for enslaving another human being
How objectivist of you. The way I see it, if it is ok to enslave beasts of burden and put them to work to benefit society, because they are intellectually insignificant, then it would be ok to put to work the intellectually insignificant groups of humanity. You place unnecessary emphasis on the rights of the homo sapien, and place humanity on a pedestal as though simply by being a human you are exempt.
>numb nuts
>fuck you
>dumb ass
>hateful bigot
Vitriol does not an argument make. Also, cite some sources please.

>>3112218
Nothing

Both white americans and blacks suck ass

>>3115097
If it's about intellectual significance enslave anyone who isn't a scientist or mathematician. You might say that they're paying taxes but it would be so much better if the masters could put people to work on what matters while the people who really make the intellectual work would be free to do it. Of course the billionaires wouldn't get slaved because they would be the ones calling the shots. If Soros wants to buy you why shouldn't it be allowed?

>>3112223
>>3112507
/thread
there ya go

>>3115203
Indeed. I feel as though my job (in the judicial system) is an essential and voluntary task requiring intellectual merit, and which benefits society economically and in the maintenance of order. You could make the argument that the job could be done by a slave, but again, they would have to be a clever slave - which I consider to be unjustifiable.

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>>3115097
Whites do not have to be subjugated by Asians for them to be bought as slaves. Are you retarded? The Africans bought as slaves from West Africa were not subjugated, just sold. Quit messing around.
If Asians wanted too, they could have bought only poor white peasants(preferably those in debt) as slaves and treated all the slaves as inferior people as justification for continuing the practice. I mean only whites would be slaves and they are less intelligent than them right?
Btw, some east Asians were bought as slaves by Europeans(namely Japs and Koreans). There is a literal article on wiki that talks about it so look it up.

Blacks are generally lower income but that doesn't mean they are all on welfare. There are still a decent number of blacks in middle class and lower middle class, fool. For you to say blacks "rarely" pay taxes was just plain wrong and ignorant.
http://www.urban.org/urban-wire/stalled-struggling-black-middle-class
Yes there definitely not as much that are high income as whites but c'mon now. Even a person making 35k a year will pay some amount of taxes.

>How objectivist of you
Look, with your fucked up view on slavery and life, you're obviously not going to convince me of anything nor I you, so let's just leave it at that.
I really hope you actually are underaged though; hopefully your skewed view of the world will change.

>>3112387
>american reputation
>burger
>guns
>fat
>bombs
>oil
>dollaridoos

Protecting american reputation that has been shit since the 70s and worsened during 00s. You could elect hillary/sanders and if there's still war and consumerism, the world would still see america the same

>>3115223
Not the person you're responding to, but I find it amusing that you can recognize how arbitrary your argument is and still attempt to make it. It's like you hold the opinion as an accessory to your identity. How irrational.

>>3114920
Dude /pol/ is starting to warp your fucking mind. Give it a one week rest.

>>3115295
>arbitrary
I don't think so. To work in the upper echelons of the justice system you need to be intelligent - i.e not so stupid that you are unable to benefit society. Therefore, enslaving such a person would be, in my opinion, pointless and unjustifiable.

>>3115325
Not that part in particular, but the whole scheme of enslavement you've presented piecemeal. It was blacks because they had lower IQs, then it was just low-iq individuals, then it was just everyone who is poor because they don't 'contribute enough' in taxes. The whole idea is absurd but you seem to relish trying to defend it because it's a pet prejudice of yours.

>>3112218
Brazil had slavery for like 200 more years up util the 1900 and nobody is bitching about it there. It's murifag libtards with their che Guevara shirts who make a big deal about it. Ironically he hated both niggers and faggots as he said.

>>3115352
The poor are stupid. Blacks are both poor and stupid.
Blacks should therefore be enslaved. Capisce?

>>3115367
Right, and you recognize how arbitrary your qualifications for enslavement are, yet you still advance it because you seem to have made that perverse value system a part of your own identity. It's like you just enjoy clothing yourself in off-color opinions because it makes you stand out.

>>3115357
But people do bitch about it. It's why black Brazilians are still looked upon more negatively there.
>>3113682

>>3115379
Edgy dude that is grown enough to be part of the labor force says to mentally jacks off to the idea that anyone that is "mentally inferior" to him should be a slave but only to cover his racist psycopath ideals and still pretend to have some moral high ground.

>>3115367
But that's wrong, you demented retard.

>>3112218
>slavery is A-okay as long as it does not have a racial component, then it's the worst thing since Hitler

What did /his/tein mean by this?

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>>3112218
ottomans had enslaved 5 million people during 6 centuries. belgium alone had enslaved 20 million and killed half of them in 3 decades. also slaves werent treated as farm animals in ottoman empire. they were house servants and concubines.

>>3112923
>nice homeland in the Balkans.
mutually exclusive

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This fucking thread

>>3112218
ideological and institutional

>>3112323
>actually believes this
Kekmeister

>>3113529
They enslaved blacks as much as europeans, if not more.
Go read a book brainlet

>>3116746
It's pretty bizarre mental gymnastics used to twist American/European slavery into something more monstrous than anything else. Not to mention the fact that racism in some form and slavery have gone hand in hand since slavery was a thing.