What did your family do during WW2?

Danish family;

>nazis invade
>life gets kinda shit
>nazis open fire upon a group of civilians including my grandmother
>Grandpas brother gets put in prison for selling pastries to the germans
>Half of the family move to sweden just a few years after the war because nazis fucked shit up

My grandfather died in auswitch

Spanish family
> great uncle was in the Division Azul (Spanish volunteers fighting for Germany)
> Siege of Leningrad
> by day, he's fighting alongside the Germans
> at night, he'd cross into Soviet lines with some of his buddies
> he'd go to where the Soviets were and would drink with them, since the Russians had the better booze
> they'd bring German cigarettes, which the Soviets were crazy for them
> they were generally accepted, because they were seen as nothing more than mercenaries doing their job
> before dawn, they'd sneak back over to German lines to continue fighting

None of my family members did anything noteworthy in their life. We've always been poor farmers.

gdad was 10 when the russians came, they fled from the town with the women to a farm and hid there

their house was bombed earlier, he saw some brigdes blown up by germans

my granny was 5 and they gave firewater to the ruskies also smearing coal on their faces to appear ugly and dirty to avoid rape

>>3105210
Nazis never fired on Danish civilians.

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>>3105206
No military combat or anything like that. Family on my grandmothers side lived in North of England:
>Grandma's parents were too old to fight, so my great-grandad worked with the fire brigades to prevent too much extreme damage from the Blitz.

My dad's side were middle-class Irishmen so they didn't fight for the British like other poor-Irishmen did (they needed the money, however before that, they were involved in the 1917 Easter Rising.

My Grandad's (on my dad's side) Uncles were theatre actors who became involved with the rebels who fought in the Easter Rising. They were both in the General Post Office fighting the British during the Siege, but neither was killed luckily.

Croat here
Don't know about WW2 but right after it my grandfather was hiding some guy from the communist regime in his attic. They found them out eventually, so grandpa lost his job and spent a month or two in jail.
Also, one of my great-grandfathers allegedly got killed during the war, but recently it turned out that he committed suicide...

My Grandfather was in the middle of doing his Abitur and was also in the Hitler Jugend. My Greatgrandfather was Berufssoldat in the Wehrmacht, but he wasn't fighting on the front. At some point they escaped using a ship of some sort. My Grandfather never finished his Abitur and did a Lehre/ Ausbildung instead.

A bit from my German family:

>Grandma's cousin and his uncle were murdered by the Nazis in Grafeneck during Aktion T4
>Grandma's two brothers fought with the Wehrmacht in Jugoslavia, Greece and the Eastern Front, one of them studied medicine and was therefore allowed to stay in Germany some time
>Grandpa was a young boy, his brother was assigned to a Flak unit
>Grandpa and his family got bombed in Ulm in 1944, everyone survived luckily
>Grandma's old aunt was killed during a bombing raid on Stuttgart
>Grandma's sister was a nurse with the Red Cross and witnessed KZ prisoners in livestock wagons in Berlin
>Grandma's one brother fell during the defense of Silesia in march 1945
>Other Grandpa worked in some industry essential to the war effort, didn't get conscripted

>>3105206
Grandpa's uncle got executed by Germans publicly for being a communist.

>>3105386
OP here, my grandad was doing his Lehre (apprenticeship) too before he got drafted. He was a trained blacksmith so actually spent most of the war making horseshoes and collecting bomb shrapnel from blown out buildings to sell to blacksmiths. Eventually his mother found the shrapnel collection he and his brother had assembled under their beds and as it was highly illegal, slapped the crap out of them.

>>3105403
I'm sorry to hear that, which country?

>>3105407
Serbia. It's ok, once they got into power they named the local school after him.

German family

Maternal granddad:
>Is 17 at the end of the war
>Western front, Volkssturm or something
>One night they sleep in a barn, granddad just stays there with a friend
>Basically deserts with connivance of the captain
>Rest of the platoon dies
>American prisoner of war

Maternal grandma
>Is forced out of her home, because American officers want to use it.

Parental granddad:
>Machine gunner at Eastern Front
>He saw some shit, i would have liked to hear some stories, but never met him
>Got injured and therefore survived

Parental grandma
>was affected by the program "Heim ins Reich"
>Germans in Romania were resettled to occupied Poland
>There given a Polish farm, former owners became servants and got to sleep in the barn
>When the Russians came, they fled West

>>3105313
>Newsflash:
He's in Madagascar.

>>3105320
Interesting.

>>3105403
I had a grandad from Finland that was best friends with a guy that was executed by Russian commies for being a nationalist

Anyone else have useless parents in regards to family history?

>Great granddad served in WW1
>Was conscripted as a gunner and came back deaf after the war

All I know is this because my mother and uncles that grew up in the 60's didn't care enough to keep records or hand me downs (uniform or tit bits). Grandma was pretty dim in general and didn't care either.

Apparently he had souvenirs and stuff from france but one day a cold caller came and offered them hard cash, my grandmother sold and got rid of the lot.

Some American "collector" probably has my granddads war souvenirs etc somewhere

>>3105313
How were born then?

American reporting in.

Both of my grandfathers were in the Navy during the Pacific War, one on an aircraft carrier and the other on a destroyer. Neither killed any Japs personally but my paternal grandfather survived a kamikaze attack on his ship.

>>3105443
I feel you. My grandmother threw out my grandfathers Wehrmacht jacket and a bunch of photos because she didnt want them in the house because of the memories. Easy for me to be pissed off about it but I guess you do t want to be reminded of your brother and mother who starved to death and Russians raping your neighbors every time you open the closet.

Dutch family

>maternal side

Grandmother and grandfather were interned in the 'jap camps' of the Dutch East-Indies

>paternal side

Don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were collaborators with the nazis tbqh

It's impossible to feel sorry for Germans and their soppy stories about war. Maybe dont invade Poland next time for fucks sake.

>>3105206
My family were Irish, my great grandad was apparently almost completely apolitical, he was more concerned with his job than anything else, my grandad tried to get into Britain to enlist and fight, but he got caught trying to cross the border illegally, my grandmother never really talked about the war.

Don't know what happened on my dads side. My great grandfather was in the airforce during the war. He met my great grandmother at a stop over in Canada and took her back to New Zealand before going back to service. He had a fling with some Irish girl and got her pregnant before returning home. Somehow through all of this I now have distant Swiss family members.

My adoptive grandfather is the only story that's interesting.

My adoptive grandfather fought in the Pacific as a marine, but as I've heard from his war stories, he did not participate in combat, or did so infrequently. He was assigned to be part of the personal bodyguard for an important admiral or something. Normally, the personal bodyguard is full of really strong, tall brutes. But my grandfather is like 5'5", so the reason he was assigned to this unit was because he was basically a doppelganger for the important admiral. They would occasionally send him to relay messages for the admiral wherever it was too dangerous too send the admiral himself, on the presumption that maybe he would be shot by a Japanese spy or sniper. But a lot of the time, he was going around to dinner parties or sitting outside important strategy meetings with the other bodyguards, so I don't think his position was TOO glamorous.

>>3105525
>5'5''
I thought you were going to tell us he was Japanese.

>>3105206
My maternal grandpa was the only one who fought. He was barely old enough to be drafted, and was sent to fight in Yugoslavia for a few months before a bullet broke his leg and he got captured. Once healthy he escaped, but the war was basically over by that point. He was assigned to a garrison and saw no more action.
His brothers were too young to fight, as he was the eldest. His father was a WW1 invalid, so he didn't fight either.
My paternal grandpa was too young to fight in WW2. He had no brothers and his father died in the 30s, so no fight on that side.

Not a glorious track record, but hey you can't choose when you're born.

>>3105446
He fucked anons Grandmother. That's what people do to get children.

>>3105206
Swedish family: Did nothing
Cuban family: Did nothing

>>3105378
>1917
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AMERICANS OUT

>>3105206
British
>three of them were children and were evacuated to Wales
>grandfather was a tail gunner in a Halifax bomber throughout the war.

I'm American

Paternal Grandfather was the captain of a supply boat in the Pacific, and his brother was a Marine who fought at Guadalcanal, survived.

Paternal Grandmother joined nursing school during the war and became a stateside nurse, never went to Europe or anything.

Maternal Great Grandfather was a low level diplomat who was bouncing around Europe before the war and I think he came stateside when it started.

Step Dads father was an American captain who fought in North Africa and through Sicily and into Berlin for the end of the war.

Maternal Step-Grandfather was a German Jew who's family left before shit hit the fan in Germany, and he came back and did intelligence for the Americans. Apparently was in Hitler's bunker after everything was over, working for the proto-CIA. Not really sure how many grandmother can prove it, as he's dead now. Never got to meet him.

Grand-grandfather fought for Tito's partisans

My paternal grandfather:

>drafted with 16
>anti air unit in western / southern poland
>turned 18 during the war
>went from abandoned farm to abandoned farm with his unit
>found a lot of food, cows crying because they need to be milked
>grandfather grew up as a peasant so knows who to handle stuff
>plenty of food for all the guys, sweet war life
>retreated south before the russians came
>surrendered to american soldiers that came from southwest
>weapons and uniforms taken away and sent home
>sweet memories of good old war times
>always told nice and pleasant stories of the good times
>on time he said that if he had the chance to vote for hitler again he would do it
>I miss him

>>3105313
He fell from a guard tower

>>3105206
My Great-Greatgrandfather was apparently a member of the socialist/communist party in his hometown. He therefore was send into a KZ (I don't remember which one to my shame) and died there. Nobody knows how. My Great-Grandmother was a nurse and the fiancee to a SS-Soldier, oddly enough. He died during the war though (luckily) and she met and fell in love with a Wehrmacht soldier who would become our Great-Grandfather. I was born to late to hear or understand any of his story unfortunately and I didn't listen to the one my Great-Grandmother told us (once again, shame on me).

Dutch
Grandparents on one side were too young, though grandfather apparently served as an errand boy for the resistance by delivering food (they were farmers) to families that hid jews (the nazis here didn't do anything against a 5 year old boy).

from the other side, my grandmother survived the bombing on Rotterdam though a lot of her relatives died. She had to bury her cousins. She is a very sweet natured woman but due to this war trauma she still hates germans. My grandfather didn't do anything apart from hating germans. This side of the family however has an interesting story

>uncle of my grandfather was forced to work in Leipzig
>thought everything was lost, fathered a child in Leipzig
>war ends, returns to The Netherlands, later on tells his dutch wife and kids about this
>Actually meets his german son and family (son was a grandfather around that time) after the german reunification.
>No grudges from any side, people understand it was a difficult and weird time
>we actually have a german side of the family due to this

>>3105485
This is about personal stories you genius. Nobody (well, noone who's sane) questions who was in the wrong at the time. Still one can appreciate (or at least ignore) interesting stories of individuals.

On my mother's side:
Grand-Grand ma was telling them about how Italians came to their house and demanded wine and chickens.
My grandma remembers how US bombers destroyed a railroad bridge close to their home. She and her family hid into a WWI cavern, but she still remembers how blood poured from their noises, due to the pressure of the blast.
Her cousin, which was a bit older, went away from their home to check if his father, which was with the partisans, was still alive. He brought home bad news.
On father's side:
His grandma lived through bombing nearby her village, probably US planes. The whole village ran towards an railroad tunnel. She got hit in the leg by a small piece of the bomb. Lived her whole life with it in her.

>>3105206
Paternal great grandfather fought in WW2 briefly. He was born in 1900 and fought at the end of WW1 as a cavalryman in the Serbian army. During WW2 he was 40 something years old and didn't fight since he had to keep watch over his family farm but santed to join the Chetniks. His brother was in the Chetniks and fought in the battle of Novi Pazar. In '44 Partizans were moving through the area and they either conscripted him or he joined them voluntarily. He wasn't a communist but probably joined beacuse he wanted to kill Krauts again. I don't know if he saw action but I know that he was a guard at some Partizan camp for a while and they gave him a MP40 which we still keep at the old family home. He left the Partizans before the war ended (they let him go he didn't desert).

>>3105508
>>3105510
Maybe you two are related?

>>3105206
Nothing
T. latin american.

>>3105206
The April criminals must pay for their crimes

croat here too.
one grandfather was ustashe (fascist), the other a yugoslav partisan, both survived, the end

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>>3105206
Slovak Family:

>Hungarians annex Southern Slovakia
>conscription into their army in october 1942
>Stalingrad happens
>flees to Soviets in November 1942
>Slavic bro, oportunity to join Red army
>Voronezh and Kharkov battles
>3 times wounded by shrapnels
>January 1944
>joins 3rd Czechoslovak independent brigade
>Dukla, Liptovský Mikuláš and Ostrava battles
>end of war
>payback time
>Jägerndorf massacre
>dies peacefuly in 1993

Czech family:

>1938
>Betrayed by allies
>occupied by Poles
>1939
>takes German citizenship and joins Wehmrmacht to avenge Czechoslovakia
>spends entire war in garrison division in France with own uncle
>1945
>Benešovy dekrety
>joins Revoluční Gardy so they wont get deported
>takes part in Postoloprty massacre
>dies peacefully in 1962 and 1977

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Peruvian amerindian-mestizo.
From my mom:
Grandma:
Her grandparents were from south-center and were quechua and mestizo. Then they migrated to Cusco. They had terrains and properties. Her father owned a great house, farm, and horses.
Her mother had also properties.
Her mother dies and the family breaks apart. Her father becomes alcoholic and gets fucked up destroying his kids' education.
Granpa:
His granparents were mestizos and amerindians from the same zone as my grandma's. His other granparents were portuguese.

They brought him to the northeast of Peru to work as a miner and later fisherman.

From my dad:
Her mother came from the South probably, she looks amerindian. She doesn't remember now i think. His mestizo father abandonded the family and went to live with another one more prosper.

Both my parents lived in poor conditions. My father was a young communist intelectual who was a exceptional speaker, he worked on some radio channels, then he got redpilled and started a bussiness. He succeeded (it was the best fast-food restaurant on the stadiums of Lima) then the banks of the country broke and a lot of their assets got devalued. The company then started going down. He and my mother had run the company for decades. They started to argue and he beat her. He was addicted to bet games.

Both got divorced after going to Spain. Then my father started living on Toledo. My mother got welfare.

My father invented a bet algorythm some years ago and he suceeded.

When I was young I got my head hit against the floor(tripped on some stadium stairs), the wall of the alianza stadium, the front window of our car... I got a great mark on my forehead.

Yet I got a bit of assburguers and have a 135 IQ. It's useless though, I can't do shit without money(start a company, being an enterpreneur), I can't be "natural" so being a waiter or doing something involving being super-happy, dynamic...etc, is pretty hard, but possible, to me.
I don't have enough money to continue my degree.

>>3105782
forgot this:

Another Czech family:

>spends entire war in concentration camp as a political prisoner

Last Czech family:

>1945
>Germans come
>steal all food
>steal horse with car
>force grandpa to go with them to take care of horse
>leave powder cartrige bog from Lefh 18 there
>grandpa gets killed 1 week later by artilery
>Soviets on tanks come
>ask if Germans are still here
>"no"
>leave

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>>3105206

Family fought exclusively on the side of the Allies.

Great-grandfather was a member of Eisenhower's staff at SHAEF. Helped plan the pre-invasion artillery barrage for D-Day. Was later promoted to Brigadier General during Korea at Eisenhower's insistence.

Had an uncle who was on a B-24 Liberator crew and killed in a raid over Italy.

Stepfather's grandfather (who considered me a better great-grandson than any of his biological ones because I sat and listened to his stories) was commander of a combat recovery vehicle in the Red Army. He had to go out and towed damaged T-34s back to the rear so they could be repaired, often while under fire. Fought all the way from Kursk to Berlin. Saw all kinds of fucked up shit. Villagers being forced at gunpoint to run through minefields to clear a path for the tanks. Rape and murder on a near-daily basis. Later found out his Jewish wife and children were killed by the Einatzgruppen in Ukraine.

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>>3105637
I'm sure you know how dangerous that was, tailgunners were basically considered disposable by the RAF. Surviving even a single bombing run was quite good going.

My male ancestors died, on drowned merchant ships all over the Atlantic. Of some 10 siblings in total (both sides) only two survived (my grandpas).

My grandpa on my mother's side was a headmaster and he kept being a headmaster throughout the war. My grandpa on my father's side was a merchant of Portuguese origins who was tasked with helping the war effort by importing tea for the British troops.

I think the reason they both survived was because they were both too short to be drafted.

romanian
>maternal great-grandad was a gendarme, did guard duty in the romanian concentration camps in Transnistria (not joking); funny thing, everyone says he was a very gentle and kind person, hopefully he never tortured or mishandled the poor sods rounded up there.
paternal grandpa was a grunt on the Eastern front, dad says he deserted right after the Romanian army collapsed at Stalingrad, and walked back home covering like 1000 miles or something

>>3105206
Grandfather of the mothers side: fought in Russia. Got interned in siberia, broke out, walked home to southern Germany with a comrade.
Grandmother of the mothers side: was forcefully resettled to besarabia because of the Blut und Boden bullshit. Got chased by the red army back to prussia before making it back to southern Germany.
Granny of the fathers side: well of farmers daughter, lost most of her brothers in the war. Most likely some sisters, too. Didn't talk much about the war.
Gramps from the fathers side: started studying, got sent to Russia. Was interned there.

Anyone of my relatives was more or less a grunt.

>>3105210
>>3105313
>>3105386
>>3105398
>>3105403
>>3105638
>>3105650
>>3105656
Muh Evil NAZI'S!!!

>>3105485
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

>>3105880
Here's your (You), now fuck off to >>>/pol/

>>3105320
>Russians
>better booze
doubt

>>3105880
>Muh Polish atrocities
Incomparable to what Germany did to Poland

Now go back to /pol/

>>3105880
>not mentioning my
>>3105816
>>3105782
posts

>>3105880
Fuck off /pol/

My great aunt stole a ring from a crashed NAZI.

The fucker tried to strafe a bus full of civilians. Thankfully none were killed. He then got his karma back instantly when he crashed on the side of the hill on which the bus was traveling.

Locals gathered around the wreck and the pilot's body parts were spread all over the vegetation. They took his documents and valuables and left him there.

The wreckage was actually still there when I was a kid. Only got recovered a few years ago to be placed in a museum.

>Paternal Grandfather joins the Navy and sits around in Port shooting at Jap planes the one time they bomb Darwin
>Also at some point he goes to New Guinea and shoots at some more Jap planes

>Maternal Grandfather in the infantry
>Fights in Papua New Guinea
>Never got to hear him speak at all because both he and my Maternal Grandmother were years dead by the time I was born

>Maternal Aunt and Uncle who raised my mother were younger, slightly, and didn't fight

It's not a very interesting history. My WW1 history is way cooler, my Alpha as fuck great-grandfather fought in Flanders. He went on leave to Paris and got Syphilis from some lovely French girls which ultimately retired him from the remainder of the war in any meaningful way.
>100 years later, spoken French English drives me nuts
G E N E T I C S

>>3105206
My grandparents and their families lived in the eastern Netherlands as farmers. Germans didn't really give them much trouble from what I understand, they were both children at the time My grandmother still remembers some Hitler jokes from the time (that weren't that funny desu) The only thing of note was my grandmothers older brother, who got some kind of decoration after the war. He never wanted to talk about why he got it though and let the past be.

My Grandpartents were all too young to participate in the war.

Maternal Grandma:
> Born in 1941, lived in Hannover during the entire war.

Maternal Grandpa:
>Born in Slesia, lived there until 1945
>entire family fled form there
>Convoy strafed, aunt raped
>stayed in east germany until 1949, after proclamation of the DDR he fled to hannover

Paternal Grandma:
>was member of the BDM, always feld into the catacombs of the church during air alarm

Paternal Grandpa:
>dunno, died before my birth

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>>3105923

lol stupid Kraut

>>3105206
German Family who immigrated to Australia around 1920 (Fathers side)

4 Brothers all join the army 3 of them go on to fight in North Africa with the 2nd Battalion (AIF) and fight in the siege of Tobruk.
The last brother died fought in Singapore where he became a POW and died in Burma.

(Mothers Side)

Someone was conscripted but that is about all I know

Sorry for the lack of info family 3 gens back had issues on both sides and getting any info out of whos still alive is hard.

>>3105938
>Riphagen

>>3105206
My maternal grandpa was an air force firefighter and spent time after the war spying on Turks. My paternal grandfather was on a destroyer and captured a German sub.

Maternal grandpa ended up becoming a socialist and had a bunch of mason dudes who called each other comrades show up to his funeral. Confused our family a lot.

Paternal grandpa ends up confessing to me on his death bed that he thought we never should have fought the Germans after seeing what happened to our now immigrant filled city. His best buddy died in Normandy and he blamed the allied powers more than the Germans.

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German Grandpa 1:

> he was nearly 2 meters tall ...
> played the bass tuba as a young boy, once tumbled on marching thus broke his incisor teeth
> later wanted to join the SS army band - rejected just because of the teeth
> becomes a pilot instructor for gliders and propeller-driven planes (hitler-youth)
> last year of the war had to fly a few night missions with a Ju 88
> was shot down and crashed but survived
> POW of the US Army
> After the war opened a flight school for gliders when the US allowed it to him

German Grandpa 2:

> was a firefighter
> right after the war worked as an auxiliary policeman in the American Zone of Occupation

>>3105206

>Great Britain

Great grandfather:
>Squadron Leader in the RAF
>Controlled air bases over Aiden Somalia, told to stay in the towns but was a lit guy so always used to go for walks without bodyguards

>In Aiden (I think)
>Casually strolling about at night being a legend
>Out comes an Arab Waving a 6ft sword
>Didnt know my Great Grandad was packing dat webley
>There was forty feet between them when they stopped to make their play
>and the swiftness of my great grandad is still talked about today

My Great Grandad was a lovely man so he shot him in the arse to teach the guy a lesson but could have easily blown his head off

He always had good things to say about the Americans, they would lend him planes etc and he would lend them trucks, he had the respect of all that met him, I'm really proud to be related and glad I was able to know him before he passed

>>3106033

Also me

>Great Britain

Great Uncle:

>Inna Somme
>Over the top laddo
>loses all his unit, dark at this point
>Crosses path with Jerry
>Raises rifle
>Both recognise each other is wearing a cross, without saying a word they both lower their weapons
>Exchange crosses and go seperate ways

We still have the Germans Ivory crucifix in my family, I think its a beautiful story, my Great Uncle survived the war

My other Great Uncle was fighting the Turks in Gallopolli, he was part of a machinegun team and was the main gunner, he admitted to his destrement that he must of killed hundreds of Turks

>>3106033
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE

>>3105206
Venezuelan German family
>Vacationing in the German Alps
>Gestapo show up and arrest my great grandfather
>two or three days pass, family can get no information about why he was taken
>Gestapo return with great grandfather
>he had been mistaken for a rebel operative with the same name and questioned for a few days
>when he didn't know anything they realized they had the wrong guy and let him go on his way

>>3106060

haha literally this

Swedish here, obviously i do not have much to tell.
My grandfather and grandmother actually met thanks to the war, they sent like different fruits to each other because of the rationing and sent letters too (not actually sure how this worked). They eventually visited each other and fell in love.
The same grandmother lived pretty close to the finnish border and even spoke finnish so she saw how the germans burned towns across the border and her family took in some finnish refuges.

>Grandpa drafted in 1939 (when he was 17)
>exclusively eastern front
>shot in the leg late during the war
>captured and sent to Ukrainian gulag
>walks home, home is now Polish
>goes to the west, meets grandma
>Grandma was widowed, did KKK during the war
>probably saw some nasty air raids, since home city was hit very often

IIRC all my great grandpas were killed by the germs except one, who was put in a slave camp and later freed by the red army.

The germs weren't as bad as the japanese though. My grandma says some of them at least (not the SS fanatics) tried to be nice to the locals, giving toys and candy to children and so on. They were killing the children's parents though so...

>>3106078
>germans burned towns in finland
What? Did she mean Russians?

>>3106078
>Swedish
>and her family took in some finnish refuges.
I see you have a long tradition of being cucked by non-white races.

My main family kept a buissness in Krakow and survived the war quietly

However, one of my relatives was beaten to death by Gestapo, and another joined the Polish first armour division in the West. He was KIA during battle of Breda, Netherlands

>>3105782
badass

>>3105206
My paternal grandfather was a Rhodesian who ran away from the farm with his brothers to join the RAF. He flew spitfires in North Africa and Italy.

My maternal grandfather was a Dutchman who spent the war in a concentration camp for political dissidence. He was liberated by the US Army a few days from starvation and refused to buy German products for the rest of his life.

My maternal granother was in the Dutch Resistance but all she did that I know of was smuggle supplies on her bicycle.

>>3106205
no nigger, they were doing this in 1944 when Stalin ordered Finns to attack Krauts

>>3106205
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapland_War
Finland switched sides in the end of the war and the germans took their revenge by burning down a couple of towns as they retreated.
The russians on the other hand never even came close to the swedish border.

>>3106209
>>>/pol/

my great grandpa built bombers in Scotland while trying not to get blown up

some of my other great grandparents were stuck in Poland and probably helped the Nazis

>>3106250
Oh, damn. Didn't know about that. Thanks!

>>3106227
Yeah bro, killing civilians is so badass

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>>3105782
>takes German citizenship and joins Wehmrmacht to avenge Czechoslovakia

>>3106250
actualy they did, Soviets liberated part of Norway and they were next to the Swedish territory
>>3106318
He was it as betrayal of Western "allies" (which it was) and wanted to fight against them, also Poland occupied region where he (and I) lived, even some Polish old people here will tell you that people saw germans in 1939 as liberators from Poles.
Btw a lot of Czech fascists that werent in the most anti-german camp (people around General Gajda that supplied partisans with food and weapons) wanted to avenge Czechoslovakia by helping Germany against Poles and West.

>>3105206
Ukranian family which live at border

>german artillery shot their house
>great-great grandfather with his wife, brother and son die
>only one 11-years old other son alive
>run to Russia

Russian family
>great-great grandfather and 4 his brother die in every year of war, one by one
>great grandfather and 6 his brothers die at war
>great-great grandfather and woman part live in villiage and then 2 years live in occupation
>germans kill 3-years old great-grandmother and then her mother

Yagnob family (Small nation in Tajikistan mountains)
>Great grandfather and his brother go to war in 1941
>One brother die in Voronezh in 1942 in street fights
>Second brother lose half of his left leg in Stalingrad in 1943

>>3105320
He told you this because he did not want to admit that Hitler was right

My grandfather was an American navy pilot in the Pacific Theater. He flew Hellcats (fighter) and Avengers (torpedo bomber) off the U.S.S. Intrepid. He was highly decorated but refused to discuss his experiences.

>>3105206
My Egyptian grandad had it fairly comfy he worked for a British oil company and had expert knowledge in driving big tankers through the desert. He ended up leading convoys to deliver tank petrol to the western desert front. He never saw real action though. He did however see action during the 1948 fighting in Palestine. He drove aid convoys to Palestine for the U.N

>>3106377
Why would you fight against your old oppressor when you can fight against your current oppressor?

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>my great grandfathers brother was a resistance member during the Second world war in Norway
>The police chief in a rural area was a complete Nazi shitheel who they knew "removed" people all the time.
>At the closing of the war they faked a car crash close to a woods, and he came there to inspect alone
>took him out in to the woods and shot him
>apparently he begged for his life and used the "I was just following orders" defense

>>3105799
you have to go back

Argie here.

One of my gramps where kids of Spanish Civil War civil war refugees. My great grandma would weight and empty books, then fill them with lead and send them to Spain to help the socialist smelt bullets.

Another one was the bastard son of an Italian entrepeneur who was abandoned at early childhood.

One of my grandmas was from a local landowner family dating back to the colony days.

The other were just Chilean inmigrants.

All of them were kids during WWII. They lived normal lifes, some in relative poverty I guess.

>>3106287
If you don't want to get killed, don't elect a guy who promises to eradicate multiple races and ethnic groups. Pretty basic.

>>3106462
because they thought Germany will win
This is reason why is undertand Jan Rys-Rozsévač´s motives and i bealive he wanted to create good conditions for us Czechs in "New Europe", he still deserved to get hanged tho.

>>3106465

I swear man fucking norway. Creating a myth of resistance while the whole country took some days to be invaded. Its a basically natural fortress but you lazy cunts could hold it for some shitty days.

Look at finland, a flat pancake being invaded by a hugely overnumbered enemy. Still holding in there for years. Fucking incompetent norwegian fucks.

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>Greek

mostly starved

>>3106287
they deserved it, iam quite sad they werent all killed or deported to Kazachstan instead of being killed only in several thousands and deported to Germany

>>3106507
>implying Karelia isnt one of the greatest places to defend on Earth

>>3106502
>don't elect a guy who promises to eradicate multiple races and ethnic groups
Give a source that this was part of Hitlers election campaign

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>half afghan
>tfw neutral
>half NW european
>tfw white grandpa and grandma were born in the early-mid 30s
Nuttin

>>3105206
American

>Grandfather joined the army in WWII
>Stationed in his home city as a typist in an office building
>fought the war from a desk in a nice Midwest city
>still lived with his family, far away from the front lines
>Japan surrenders
>travel to Japan for a short time during military build-up there
>come home
>live to be old
>die of COPD from smoking your whole life

I've never actually met him because he died shortly after my birth. No other relatives served in that war that I can recall.

War is hell.

One great grandfather was a land surveyor and got drafted for the invasion of France where he measured distances and calculated angles for the artillery. He was awarded the Iron Cross 2nd class there. My other great grandfather lead a group of Volkssturm members heroically against some Americans. Only thing was he lead them, I think on purpose, in the completely wrong direction so when they went back to the village it was already occupied and they simply surrendered.

>>3106515

Well it basically isn't( flat forrest lands with tons of roads and open passageways) and besides the finnish borders is like more than 1200 kilometers long with a seafront open to enemy intrusion on the whole western side of the place. With unlimited mobility for the soviet troops behind the border even don't forget the murmansk railroad.

At some point you just have to wonder how much better the finnish troops where when you compare them to the norwegian or danes.

>>3106491
Great grandma sounds like the best waifu ever

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>>3105880
>58,000
Wat

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>>3106507
>whole country took some days to be invaded

>"The campaign ended with the occupation of Norway by Germany, and the continued fighting by exiled Norwegian forces from abroad. The 62 days of fighting made Norway the nation that withstood a German invasion for the second longest period of time, after the Soviet Union."

>>3106516
Whose fault is it they didn't bother to read Mein Kampf? I read Obama's books (they were ghostwritten by someone else actually) when he was running, and got Art of the Deal in September 2016. Not caring or bothering to care what your leader's plans are is just as bad

>>3106539

62 fucking days... While the country is a natural fortress.

2 fucking months. Its nothing. The so called "resistance movement" was totally pathetic also. Mostly people just accepted the fact the germans won.

My great grandfather (german) was sent to Nice when he was 17. He was peasant and came from a small village and he had never traveled before so it was the biggest city he had ever seen. When he was in Nice he was just walking around the city and not really doing anything, he took some pictures with a palm tree and at the beach. He was then sent to Italy, he managed to hide in a mill but after staying there for some time, the family that owned it tried to make him marry their daughter that nobody wanted to marry because she was fat. He said no but they still let him live with them and he left after the war. When he came back home he was told that he's now in Poland.
One of his brother died in the Luftwaffe, the other one ended up in Britain and nobody knows what happened to him.

My great grandmother lived in the same village as he did, when it was occupied by the russians, she had to let them sleep in her house. They were always stealing things, getting drunk and doing all sorts of stupid shit, to this day she still doesn't like them and thinks that they're savages. A death march passed through her village and a lot of jews were killed there.

>>3106552
You're either some butthurt Slav, a Natsoc, or a Swede.

So which is it fagtron?

>>3106507

This

fucking Denmark had more resistance than Norway, of course they stood against the Nazis and they must be applauded for this but nonetheless they didn't do anything amazing compared to Yugoslavia, France or Greece.

>>3106539
>The 62 days of fighting made Norway the nation that withstood a German invasion for the second longest period of time
Its really amazing how fast the germans were

>>3106562

I hate the fact that lately in the media the whole resistance "heia norge" gets plown out of proportions while in reality the norwegian defenses and spirit held for a whole whopping 62 days.

Its really fucking nothing and the forces sent here weren't even that strong. If there would have been a fighting spirit and some planning for coastal artillery the whole invasion would have been a deathtrap for the nazis.

GG norge you tried.

>>3106535
>and besides the finnish borders is like more than 1200 kilometers long with a seafront open to enemy intrusion on the whole western side of the place. With unlimited mobility for the soviet troops
>what are supply lines
>what are forests

>>3106586

They were fast because the defender lack spirit and tactics.

Like "this is our land which we must defend to the bitter end" Like the fanatical zeal just isn't there with norwegian people. Its mostly " I really hope its not MY ass that gets kicked , lol fuck everyone else" So there never even was any resistance just poorly organized shit.

>>3106588
Ah right. So you're just a self-hating Norwegian.

Are you a NatSoc too, so you can add treason to your self-hatred?

>>3106592

What are railroads and well established roads, what is the open sea surrounding almost the whole of finland with the soviets having a fuck ton more navy?

>Maternal
Great-granddad got killed in Winter War by friendly fire from machine gun after returning from ski patrol

>Paternal
Granddad was a jew in Germany, but he managed to escape to Azores. Don't know about great-grandparents

>>3106605

I'm not hating anyone just stating the fact the defenses and the national spirit in norway were at the time lacking. Like its fucking baffling to think that a country this long and large defended naturally from the ocean by fjords could be so easily taken over and the people just went "oh well I hope its not MY ass that gets kicked".

>>3106627
Apparently not as lacking as Denmark who literally surrendered after 12 hours.

>>3106639

Yeah but still fucking pathetic. There is no escaping that. 62 fucking days is laughable.

>>3106607
>what is the open sea surrounding almost the whole of finland with the soviets having a fuck ton more navy?
The navy was almost completely irrelevant in both of the finnish wars.

>>3106647
>defending your country for 62 days against the greatest war machine in history at that point is fucking pathetic compared to the 12 hours of the neighboring country

Yeah you don't have a chip on your shoulder at all.

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>>3106661
>greatest war machine in history
literally a meme, only nation Krauts defeated that wasnt microcountry with pathetic army and was actualy supposed to be good was France

>>3106649

Was it because the soviets were too bad at using it? Or because the defenses were too good. Really at points its thought provoking to think the soviets could have just zerg rushed uusimaa with boats meeting next to no defensive forces and won the war.

They just chose not to do it for some historical and weird reasons.

What if the soviets moved their main force to from karelia to murmansk and crushed the germans around Neiden/Kirkenes much before 1945? Finland would have been a steamroll.

>>3106661

The greatest war machines at the time were in declining order: the americans/soviet russia (this is debatable), japan then germany.

>>3106681
the entire Gulf of Finland was full of Soviet, German and Finnish mines, it happened also in WW1 but in smaller scale because Russian and German fleets were+- equal

>>3106677
>>3106691
You're both being pedantic homosexuals. Nazi-Germany managed to conquer most of Europe, in the span of a couple of years, with the exception of countries that it was allied with.

So either way, they weren't a joke, but I get that it's hard to actually have a discussion without being memelords.

>>3106681
Here is wikis explanation.
>The Baltic Sea began to freeze over by the end of December, which made the movement of warships very difficult; by mid-winter, only ice breakers and submarines could still move. The other reason for low naval activity was the nature of Soviet Navy forces in the area. The Baltic Fleet was a coastal defence force which did not have the training, logistical structure, or landing craft to undertake large-scale operations.

In the longer Continuation War, the german navy stood in the way.

>>3106701

Still you could imagine them making the way through easily with smaller vessels taking the finns by surprise. Amass a fleet around where you want and launch a finnish "normandy" It would have been quite possible.

>>3106711

Norway was and still is a joke though.

>>3106741
Why?

My grandfather voluntarily joined the National Guard when he became old enough in 1942.
He was a Guard for less than two weeks before he was transferred to the Army.
He was shipped over to the UK and was trained as a medic.
Once he was drunk and told me that he fucked 23 different girls over there, and got at least four of them pregnant.
Anyway, he was in the initial landings at Omaha beach, and had to collect a shit load of bodies once the beach was secured.

Danish
>great grandma hiding resistance on her roof while krauts search her house
>one guy steals all the silver from the local church before the nazis can get to it
>another joins frikorps danmark and goes to the eastern front
>then deserts and escapes back to denmark
>imprisoned for desertion
>escapes prison
>war ends
>imprisoned for treason
>escapes prison again and joins the FFL
>never heard from since

>>3105364
That actually did happen.

>>3105206
Czech here

Only interesting story was when one of mine my Great-gramps hid Ivans in his barn and the fuckers tried to turn decent part of his harvest to moonshine.

>>3106711
>managed to conquer most of Europe
>Poland, Danmark, Norway, Benelux, France

>>3106661
Denmark is smaller and much flater. They could have resisted for maybe a week at max but that would cost many lives and they knew they had no chance so they surrendered and got a fair bit of autonomy out of it.
It would be better to compare with Greece or France.

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>>3106748
>it must be Sven

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>>3106753
Yes?

German family.

In my grandfather's generation, they stayed at home because they were all farmers and needed to produce food, but the oldest brother was sent off and served on the Western Front in France, but I don't know at what stage exactly. If I remember correctly it was nearer to the end of the war, and he was a POW in a French camp for a while.

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>>3106779
Wtf is that map? Here, have a better one.

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>>3106725

Still this remains a real question, what if after the turn of the war in 1943 the soviets sent a larger force towars the kola peninsula.

I have a friend in neiden who is now nearing 90, he became trilingual during the war. He always talks about the masses of germans crossing the border towards murmansk but of almost none of them coming back.

Basically the germans were strong in numbers in the north but in reality they lack punch power.

What if the soviets took a belly blow there and flooded finlands really flimsy defences in lapland?

Finland would have been just another soviet state.

Picture: The monument to the Russian liberators of Kirkenes

>>3106779
Most of it is their allies

>>3106779
Weren't Hungary, Croatia, Slovakia and Bulgaria puppet states though?
I mean, true, Nazis conquered Slovak and Croatian territories, but I don't think they ever conquered Hungary and Bulgaria.
>>3106795
This is much better presentation!

>>3106802
>>3106804
What do you mongoloids think puppets states are exactly?

>>3106813
Still, Hungary and Bulgaria weren't conquered. In the best case they joined the reich through diplomatic ways.

>>3106743

Fucking you know it at the time of the big war we had all the elements made for winning but the politicians before the war neglected gearing up the defenses. Now just a NATO lapdog living out of oil and gas money, living out of oil and gas the consumer revenues it creates is disturbing when the world is moving forwards witth the shale oil and all. Ok as a country we are loan free but we will go down just as well if the world economy crashes.

I dunno. I feel like I would like people to be more patriotic and stuff. Like closing the borders and sending the east europeans destroying the working conditions and wages home.

Coming from a manual labourer.

>>3106796
>what if after the turn of the war in 1943 the soviets sent a larger force towars the kola peninsula
>What if the soviets took a belly blow there and flooded finlands really flimsy defences in lapland
The region had rough terrain and little infrastructure, it could very well have ended in a soviet catastrophe. The russians needed to focus on the main front against Germany anyway so it would probably not have been worth the trouble.

>>3106796
Winter war basicaly happened again between 1942-1944, but Soviets were defending this time and cucked Krauts and Finns in masses

>>3106830

Yeah we will never know but the terrain itself is not rough at all in a sence. Its artic ok but its really passable with proper planning. Its not like at the particular area from petsamo towards lapland there are any great natural barriers. Some rivers and stuff but it could have been done.

Ok I know how the soviets were stopped at Salla and Joutsijärvi but again was just the finns pushing their strenght at the maximum. If the soviet force was even a bit larger it would have pushed through. Then once you reach Kemijärvi or the surrounding areas there are no points for the finns to defend in before oulu.(ok some rivers to cross in rovaniemi and so on but no feasible time window to build defenses there) So it would basically have been a run through after the initial spearhead taking Koillismaa.

Grandparents were interned in California. They lost everything.

>>3106857

The finns didn't attack much and the germans mostly played a waiting game, so I don't really see how this was "another winter war" A baseless statement from you.

Its a really interesting and overlook frontier in terms of how much weird war culture it created. With all the norwegians and finns marrying the krauts and making war families. The freetime passing etc. Really a sublimely interesting piece of history.

>>3105994
>> later wanted to join the SS army band - rejected just because of the teeth
thats some autism right there

>>3106078
>My grandfather and grandmother actually met thanks to the war, they sent like different fruits to each other because of the rationing and sent letters too (not actually sure how this worked). They eventually visited each other and fell in love.
Awww

>>3106891
muh bad genes

>>3106554
I would love to watch a romcom with your great grandparents.

>>3106917
the guy was 7 feet tall and they rejected him because he broke a fucking tooth.

>>3106872

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osasto_Roininen

From the winter war. My grandparents lived like a few kilometers from the front line in a bunker. They were still kiddies at the time.

Really good stuff.

From my fathers side the family was evacuated from Suomussalmi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Suomussalmi

I thinks some of the older brother of my grandpa fought in the war and got killed/wounded but its never been talked about.

The trenches in Mäntyvaara, Joutsijärvi lapland were still visibly intact when I was a little kid in the turn of the 80/90's a good place to go foraging for berries. The whole mäntyvaara was a blueberry paradise.

As a side note my grandparents for the mothers side learnt german from the german troops in lapland. From what I heard they were really top notch people generally. Its sad that the baddies won the wars eventually.

>>3106927
Be back next week for another episode of ˝Just Italian things!˝. How long will Hans be able to reject Emillio's attempts to set up a marriage for her ˝beautiful˝ Giulia? Will Hans manage to fill the hole in the mill, made by the last U.S. air raid? And how longer will ha manage to keep up the facade of being a Sicilian olive worker in front of the local gestapo officer, every time he visits Turin?

Coming up next: Living with Ruskies! How will Helga react in finding Ivan with his pockets full of her silver wear, as seen in the last episode? And will she finally give into drunken seduction attempts by charming Vladimir? Just after the commercials!

>>3106949
Thats just plain retarded

>>3106816
Any one not retarded surrenders to a much stronger army. I really don't understand how you could expect the French people to fight against a superior force, knowing that it would mean the destruction of most of their cities and the death of millions.

Nazi Germany wasn't THAT bad, at least not if you're not a Jew. And even the Jews didn't really know how bad they would be treated.

Ironically many Jews fled from Nazi Germany, but the USA refused to take them in.

>>3106887
in Karelia around Stalingrad and in Karelia that was never Finnish, Finns tried to push but they were repulsed.

>>3106960

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lckaLEtPT0g

>>3107000

Yeah maybe they tried to advance a bit but these were lands of finnic peoples historically though. Also the finns did not participate on the st. petersburg assault at all. So its really a split game.

The baddies won this is what we know for sure. What else matters now when these things are gone by history?

>>3107000

And you mean around st petersburg, staliningrad is somewhere way down south. LOL are you high?

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>>3106885

FUCKING FDR

Why couldn't John Wilkes Booth have lived another 80 years to kill him too?

>>3107000
>Finns tried to push but they were repulsed
Actually they didnt, look it up.

>>3106995
Let's be honest with ourselves, it was pretty bad. If you opposed the war in any way, you got sacked.
If you opposed the changes from the earlier regime, you got sacked.
If you were a Slav, a Jew or a Gypsy, you got sacked.
If you were a German you had to go to war or move somewhere shitty, because of stupid plans to resettle the ˝old German lands in the east˝.
If you didn't do art as the führer and his cabinet commanded, you got sacked.
If you didn't educate as they commanded, you got sacked.
If there was a suspicion of conspiring against the current regime, you got sacked.
If you tried to help your fellow human being by hiding it, you got sacked.

Of course Hungarians loved being with them. They had (still have) Gypsies running all over their country and they were still butthurt from the Trianon.
Bulgaria was butthurt because of the Balkan wars.
Slovaks were butthurt because Czechs were in power in their country.
Of course the size of the army had a bit of influence on their decisions, but most influence had the enjoyment of the oppressive Nazi regime and its uses in their own country.

>>3107080
Look at the fucking map, i wonderhow did Fingols managed to keep "Finns stopped at the old borders" meme alive.

>>3106960


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Platinum_Fox

One of the most interesting operations of the whole ww 2 in terms of the artic front and how it turned out.

Really a great read if you grab a book or two.

Many went over the litsa river but only a few came back. A disaster for the nazis.

>>3107093

More like the finns pushed for more just cultural borders for uniting the finnic tribes but failed eventually. Sad but true.

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>>3107093
They stopped here.

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Grandfather fought on the hms Ark Royal
I was told his friend was killed right next to him
Returned with this Swastika badge somehow

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>>3107085
>If there was a suspicion of conspiring against the current regime, you got sacked.
>If you tried to help your fellow human being by hiding it, you got sacked.

No usually they just killed you for those last two

>>3107160
Maybe he bought it at some captured German port? After Germany lost the war, tons of counterfeit memorabilia was made and sold to, especially American, troops.

fought in europe, fought in the pacific, attended school, was a scientist

>>3107174
With sacked I also meant killed, but yeah.

English family
>Granddad was a policeman who joined Royal Marines when war broke out and becomes a commando (4th Special Service Brigade but I'm not entirely sure which commando unit he was in only that he was a Royal Marine)
>Sails up and down the channel in shitty boat, when a gun emplacement gives away its position to shoot at them, a warship further out blows it up
>The big day finally arrives on June 6th
>Apparently his unit was told to don their helmets but no one did because if they went over then they would sink like a fucking rock so they wore their green berets instead (My father said he had some form of machine gun either a Sten or Thompson if anyone is interested in that information)
>Objective is some form of building (hotel I think, I never actually met him these are stories he told my dad before he stacked it)
>Running up the beach to objective
>As he is about to get inside an allied ship blows the building to smithereens almost killing him and his men
>Spends the rest of the day fighting inland
>First day of fighting ends
>Goes back to get some food with his unit
>Is told to fuck off as there isn't enough food and that his unit was supposed to have been wiped out in action
>War in Europe ends and he is about to get shipped off to east until the US ends the Japs
>Wants to stay in the marines but they conveniently discover he is colour blind and so then leaves
>goes back to police and tells them he reached rank of Sargent in WW2
>Police say that he can re join as a corporal
>Becomes teacher instead
>Gets all his medals in the fucking post

The British military was a fucking joke in ww2.

>>3105206
Bulgarian family
>Great grandfather 1 on father's side was a captain in the army. His house was pulverized by an allied bomb but his mother had some strange nightmares the day before that and made him and his family leave the city to her village nearby on leave for a week so they miraculously survived. Later got gulag'd for 7 years for being an officer
>Great grandfather 2 on father's side got mobilized after the commie coup and fought in the balaton offensive (drava operation). Only he and his MG crew buddy survived out of his entire platoon. His small rose oil factory and plantations got seized while he was away
>The people on my mother's side didn't fall under mobilization order so they lived through the war mostly unaffected. Only my great granduncle was conscripted. He survived the war only to get informed on the front that his wife and 3 kids got disintegrated by an allied aerial bomb (same bombing run as above). Remmaried and became a diehard commie and an air force major general in the 70s

>>3105447
Also Burger
Grandfather on the Pacific front, stationed on an island air base and loaded bombs onto the sky fortresses
He had several brothers as well, one of which was captured and killed by Germans in Europe several weeks before the war concluded

>>3106514
If you could prove that they commited crimes, then yes, one could argue they deserved it (although dependant on what kind of crime they did individually), but the Czechs there repeatedly killed hundreds of random civilians from children to the elderly, without any sort of trial whatsoever, which is essentially the same what the SS and the Einsatzgruppen did.
>>3106550
So I guess you voted for Trump, right? Are you now to be hold responsible with your live for everything your government or your governments followers do? Do you think that would be right?

>>3106804
>Puppet states

It really chafes you fags to realize that the Axis wasn't just Japan, Germany, and Italy, doesn't it?

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>>3105206
I'm Irish (from the Republic) and so was my grandfather (pic related).
>granddad works at a soap factory
>war breaks out
>factory starts laying people off because the economy goes to shit
>owner of the factory (who is presumably a Unionist or at least sympathetic to the Allied cause) gives the workers a deal:
>if they sign up to fight for Britain, they're guaranteed to have a job at the factory to return to after the war
>granddad joins the RAF
>sent to England for training
>trained as pilot on the Vickers Wellington bomber
>they discover he has night blindness
>his position is relegated to gunner/navigator
After this point I'm not 100% sure what he did in the war besides the following pieces of information:
>was in Italy at some point
>was in Palestine at some point
>was in Malta on VE Day
>was apparently granted enough leave to father a few children on trips home to Ireland during the war
>reached the rank of Warrant Officer and was honourably discharged
>even though he could have landed a good job at the airport due to all his war training with aircraft, he went back to the factory and worked there until he retired
I'm honestly not sure if he ever saw combat but he did not like to talk about the war.

>>3107085
Pretty much happened in Britain and America as well. In Soviet Russia you were killed or gulaged.

My granddad was a guerilla fighter in the Visayas

>>3107568
See were you're coming from but these states weren't simply allies, they were puppet states.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Panzerfaust

>>3107640
>Pretty much happened in Britain and America as well.
[citation needed]

>>3107640
So? I was speaking about Nazi Germany, not Britain and America and neither Soviet Union.
I don't know why everyone think that saying ˝They did it too!˝ is a form of countering an argument?
We're not in kindergarten anymore anon.

>burger
>both grandpas were sailors
>maternal was on the USS Saranac, an oiler
>paternal was on the USS Saratoga
>don't know more than that, they both died when I was a shitty teenager and they never talked about it
>no idea what grandmothers did, were probably too young to be involved

>>3107487
Being G*rman is enough
Also Sudetenkrauts betrayed Czechoslovakia

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>Danish
Great-Grandparents fed and covered for a Jew(s) hiding in the woods near their cottage during the German occupation
>Norwegian
My grandpa was born right as the occupation ended, idk if his parents were involved in any combat but his father would tell him stories of people being rounded up and unceremoniously killed by execution squads and hated the Germans for as long as he lived because of it.
>Canadian
Anglo-Canadian great grandparents were too young to fight with the British/Commonwealth forces and their parents were too old, idk what the Québécois part of my family was doing during the war but I've heard the frogs weren't too keen on fighting for Britain so I doubt they were involved.

Writing this made me realize what a fucking mutt I am Jesus Christ.

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>>3107786
>Being G*rman is enough
aha, so what wrong did the SS do if they thaught being a Jew, Gypsie or Slav is enough?

>Also Sudetenkrauts betrayed Czechoslovakia
I see that Hitlers expansionism and the incorporation of all of Czechia was wrong but what was wrong about the Sudeten Germans wanting self-determination and the inclusion in their nation's state?

>>3107764
Yes, you are right. In kindergarten certain children don't get special treatment or their crimes overlooked because they are "good" by their own definition.

>>3105206
>Great Grandfather was too young to be drafted during WW1 and too old to be drafted into WW2
>Grandfather was too young to be drafted during WW2 and too old to be drafted into Vietnam
>Father was too young to be drafted into Vietnam
>I will probably be too old to be drafted in WW3 when/if that ever happens
Feels good man

>>3107879
I'm not overlooking their crimes. I never said that. I just said that I was talking about Nazis here and that saying ˝They did it too!˝ its a pretty shitty way of countering an argument.
You can say that about anything.
Nazis were bad, so where Soviets.
Both Brits and Burgers also had their shares of sins. You don't get to the top by playing nice.

But in my post, I wasn't talking about anyone else but Germans and what they did. You brought up Soviets, Brits and Americans at you own accord.
I didn't say that the Nazis were the worst fucks that ever lived. I just stated how it was in Germany back then.
And it was pretty shitty.

>>3105206
>Grandpa gets drafted in the late stages of the War.
>Infantry
>Sometime in early 1945, Northern France
>Driving a jeep with a bunch of other recruits
>Sees some Germans
>Everyone is green/under 21
>Fuck what do we do
>Drive the jeep into a field
>Jump out and hide
>Get caught
>Sent to Poland
>Russians get close
>Germans start marching the prisoners West
>Russians find them and free the prisoners
>Fucks about in Poland for 3 weeks because no one would take him west.
>Eventually finds his way out.
>Gets sent home cause he was a POW
>Fucks his wife

I come from a long line of autists.

I have a story about my Armenian grandfather

>Armenian farm boy in Russian Armenia
>bolsheviks confiscate land, force him to work on collectivized farm
>ww2 breaks out
>drafted as mortar ammunition carrier
>captured on outskirts of Stalingrad
>ss officer thinks he has Jewish nose, has him lined up to be shot
>soldiers miss him (large execution)
>plays dead for a while, then walks back into prisoner camp
>officer throws out pieces of paper on the ground at next prisoner lineup
>grandfather grabs one, any prisoner who didn't gets executed.
>retreats with German unit as forced laborer driving horses until German surrender
>meets grandmother in Germany, gets refugee status, goes to america

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>>3107973

>ss officer thinks he has Jewish nose, has him lined up to be shot

Holy shit the meme about Armenians being the poor man's Jew is legit

>>3107910
I wasn't countering, we're not in a debate. I was merely noting your focus solely on the Germans, likewise what the Germans did wasn't strange or extraordinary, any nation at that time or prior did not tolerate dissension during a total war period. I'm just interested why you made a multiple paragraph post on it as if it was something extraordinary.

>>3107991
Ironically, I'm Jewish (Mom is Jewish).

Also the German girl he married was an ardent nazi ironically. She would say odd things ala strangelove.

>>3108006
Second ironically should read strangely

>>3108006
Then you're not Armenian. And you can drop the fake story.

>>3108000
Oh, but they were!
You can put Soviets and Germans in the same boat, but you can hardly put Brits and Americans in there, at least during that period.

>>3108016
Story is as relayed to me. Never claimed to be fullblood Armenian.

>>3108006
So an ardent nazis son married a jew?

>>3108034
She was mentally broken by the war (she fled on foot from east Prussia to her relatives home in Bavaria in 45) and the death of her daughter in America, and yes her son (my father) married a Jewish girl.

She basically never spoke at family gatherings except in terms of basic pleasantries or weird outbursts

For instance, if someone made a crude joke she'd say:
>if HE was still here you'd never be able to speak like that!

Burgers on both sides.

Mother's father
>he had kindergarten in someone's garage while the moms went off to make B-25s or B-26s


Dad's father
>He was just a kid also, but whenever he would go to the mountains he would hide from the germans in a little cave he found

Not much to tell desu

>>3105364
>I Don't see an entry for it on Wikipedia: Not true!

>>3108006

>mother is a Jew
>grandmother is a Nazi who married someone who not only fought against the Reich, but narrowly avoided being murdered by the same political movement she supported

Jesus Christ you're family's fucked up.

Don't tell me, your mother's the descendant of Holocaust survivors too.

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>>3108055

Did she disown your father for marrying a Jewish girl?

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>>3105206
OP, please tell us your family's tales of the Eastern Front. The statistics and numbers in my books don't quite capture the sheer horrific reality of that theatre.

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>>3105206
Both my grandpappies got to live out the true American dream: murdering fascists like the subhuman apes that they are and banging their women

My Paternal Grandfather came from a strictly conservative Italian household. He didn't make too many waves but he did see action in Guam. Once he did what all the other boys in his unit were doing: he got drunk and got "Mother" in fancy letters over a heart tattooed on his forearm. Of course by the time he was in his 70's it was just a fuzzy incoherent blotch and he deeply regretted it from pretty much the moment he got it. He didn't have much to say about his service, he was a business guy and stand-up family man at heart

My Maternal Grandfather came from a traditional New England anglo household and was the luckiest fucking bastard in the entire war. For most of the war he was a swim instructor stationed in Hawaii. But he wasn't a pussy, he did see action in Guam and at one point was probably stationed at the same base that my paternal grandfather was, passing him in the barracks without ever knowing that their kids would one day hook up. He would have been in the first wave of G.I.s to make the landing for what would have been a horribly costly Battle of Japan, so I pretty much owe my existence to the atom bombs
Instead, he got to be in the first wave of OCCUPIERS. He'd talk about going village to village, and people would shit themselves when they saw the Americans coming, and when they'd collect rifles there'd be one for every man, woman, and child. He saw Nagasaki only a few weeks after it was nuked and it was something he could recall with perfect clarity, even when he was old and riddled with Alzheimer's. But the thing which really made his eyes light up was when he got to talking about the Tokyo nightlife, chasing around giggling geishas and then fucking their brains out. Yes, he was a gnarly old poon-hound who was never afraid to put a bitch in her place, especially the widow of a fascist. He was the man

Macedonian here, all of my grandparents were too young to fight in ww2, my grandma was 7 she remembers partisans coming to her village and albanians killing the richest people in the village taking their homes and taking 90% of everything the villagers grew, my family was dirt poor but were better off than most Albanians before the war, their houses were shitshacks, they also used the church as a bathroom, got btfo by based partisans. My great grandfather served in the Royal Serbian or Yugoslav army, he didnt fight afaik and he may have been conscripted, he was a good poet and won several awards, have no clue about anyone before, would love to find out if i have ancestors that fought in imro.

>>3108130
Nah, but she was only somewhat functional on a day to day basis at that point.

>>3108192
Fucking Albanians, stealing 90% of your grandfather's blood and sweat, before shitting all over the church of the St. Alexander the Great.
Fuck them and their shitshacks.

>>3108189
>japs
>fascists

>>3108189
Can you take your tumblrtalk and fuck off
>by tweeting I'm fighting trump who's a literal fascist
>I'm just like my grandparents so brave

Neck yourself

>>3108025
The Americans incinerated three massive civilian populations killing millions while interring their relatives in the states in concentration camps.
They also interred hundreds of thousands of Germans and Italians in concentration camps.
The Americans are garbage and hypocrites. The Brits are alright tho.

>>3108300
>no mention of Trump in post
What did he mean by this?

>>3108277
Read up on Fascism.

>>3108189
>fascists are subhuman apes
Subhuman apes have subhuman ape children.
>Italian grandfather
>Italy was ruled by fascists and is the origin of fascism
Your grandfather was a subhuman ape.

>>3105206
Sicilian here
My gdad fought in russia with the ARMIR
Lost his legs because of the cold
1 of his brothers fought in NA,got killed in tobruk
another one got wounded in greece,lost a foot because of the cold
another one fought in north italy with the 29th SS

>>3108408
>lost a foot because of the cold
>in greece
how ?

>>3108438
Too much Gyros. Blocked arteries.

What the fuck? Do you think there is no winter in Greece? You just picture Athens and Santorini with the sea and sun all around when you think of Greece, right? Go look it up, there's mountains down there as well, can get quite cold up in them.

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Usa
>grandpa joins 442nd RCT
>becomes combat engineer 232nd I think
>build roads, clear mines and fix shit that retreating Germans broke

He was a chill dude who didn't really speak at great length about the war. When I was a kid I would have to really bug him to get him to tell me stories

Interesting story 1

>grandpa manning 30 cal gun on the tailgate of a half track
>get attacked by Germans on a ridge on the opposite side of a valley
>grandpa turns around just in time to see the front gunners head get blown off by a pak 40 shell

Interesting story 2

>clearing mines
>grandpa finds one and is digging it up
>sgt comes over and says "I got this one Robert go find another"
>grandpa goes to find another
>sgt picks up tellermine
>s mine Booby trap
>sgt blown up some 45 seconds after grandpa walked away
>grandpa always told me he was the luckiest man on earth

Sad story

>grandpa died in 2013 at age 93
>had a heart attack in 2007 and his health really deteriorated from that point on
>on a lot of medication for his blood pressure and shit
>one day he was really jaundicey so we took him to the hospital
>they put him on some new medicine and it was making him hallucinate and he was basically delirious for a few days
>staying with him in the hospital
>one day he looked at me and he didn't know where he was and he was asking me to "find richie"
>"where Richie? I never seen him come back. You gotta go look for him."
>"no. You know I think he dead. Didn't make it. Never seen Sei long time too."
>the whole time he was looking around the room like there were other people there
>grandma comes in and I ask her who Richie was and it was grandpa's childhood friend who was killed in the war.
>mfw grandpa was hallucinating his dead/missing war friends and trying to find them and all I could do was sit there with him

British, Grandfather served as gunner on Catalina in Burma from 42-45.

>>3108300
Lol you sound like you're projecting, faggot.

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>>3108498

>that last story

>>3107825
>what was wrong about the Sudeten Germans wanting self-determination and the inclusion in their nation's state?
They refused to just walk a couple dozen miles into Germany and instead crippled the defensive and economic capabilities of another nation state.

>>3108343
>Your grandfather was a subhuman ape.
all humans are apes, the subhuman ones are the badly misbehaving ones who need to be put back in their place the hard way.

>>3108619
Thats not what subhuman means

>>3108625
definitions are above this guy's paygrade

>>3108625
It means "below human"

When right-wingers chimp out, when they act "below human", they get smacked back down.

It's not rocket science.

>>3108686
Only the definitions for morons

Chinese family;

>Living in a town near Nanjing, occupied by the Jap, but they were pretty chill
>great great grandpa was a school teacher, but was hooked on opium, wasted away all the assets
>send great grandpa to become a jewelry shop apprentice in Shanghai because he couldn't feed his own son
>ruined himself and his family, eventually died
>great grandpa became the owner of a jewelry shop in Shanghai, came back and got married,
>grand dad was born
>Japan fucking lost

so yeah, the war didn't really affect my family too much

>>3105313
that sucks. was your grandmother in another camp or did she just outlive him?

>>3105378
that's cool. any more info I'm sympathetic to the paddy cause

>>3106069
fucking germans suck at everything they do

>>3108143

I'll do my best but my grandmother doesn't like to talk about it and she didn't tell me much directly I got the stories mainly through my grandad who was a happy go lucky eccentric person who didn't mind telling me all the stories. I only have little tidbits of incoherent stories.

Her family were from Königsberg, East Prussia and most of her family basically starved to death or became so weakened from malnutrition that they succumbed to cold and disease (her brother, mother, aunts, uncles etc) She told me her father died on the eastern front but I later found out he fell down the stairs drunk and broke his neck.

She spoke a little bit of Russian which is what saved her when the red army did come. Her aunt was her only surviving relative and she watched her get raped and then helped put the resulting rape baby in a pot of water and put the lid on it.

There was a woman in town who during the extreme rationing still inexplicibaly had acces to meat. People thought it was because her husband was high up in the military. Turns out she was butchering victims of air raids, dead horses and donkeys etc and selling the meat. My grandmother had eaten some of that meat.

Her and her aunt marched out of Königsberg westward as refugees. It was a long and brutal march. They slept in a barn when it got dark one night and found frozen corpses under the hay when they woke up. Finally got to a ship where she was shaven and deloused and then transported to Germany. Eventually her father returned from the front and found her in Hanover and they barely recognized one another.

She still cries at the mention of Königsberg and talks of its beauty and how terrible it was to have her homeland taken from her. She doesn't consider herself properly German to this day. She got very angry when my grandad would say communism and fascism were the same shit. I think she still harbors anti Russian resentment and idealizes the nazi times but she never explicitly stated it.

american here
paternal grandad:
>by the time he got on the ship to cross the atlantic, germany had surrendered
>became an army accountant in paris for 2 years before coming back to america

paternal grandmother's brother
>was there since normandy but died shortly after the surrender from a drunken jeep crash
>another one was a pilot and became a raging alcoholic after the war, sat on a couch in her house for a while before he was kicked out

(feel bad I never got to meet any of them)

>>3108143
>>3109020
Got to the character limit there. As for my great grandad. He never ever spoke of the eastern front and was a depressed alcoholic hence the drunk falling down the stairs. (I think he died 47/48) As a civilian he was a welder which is why he got assigned to the tanks when he was conscripted.

Beyond that I know little. I have a photo of him in his uniform with my gran as a child at my parents house. I'll see if my dumbass sister can manage to scan it and mail me it. (Don't be optimistic though)

>>3105206

My patrilineal grandfather was in university for engineering at the time. My matrilineal Grandfather was a sharpshooter and an assassin in Patton's fifth.

My matrilineal grandmother was an airman. My patrilineal grandmother was in nursing school at Berkeley.

Beyond that, the grandfather who was the sharpshooter was the equivalent of a special forces operative, sent to kill HVT's and scout. He was sent out into the woods with an m1911 pistol with 2 magazines of ammo, a trench knife and a M1906 Springfield. He straight up murdered a German captain as he was taking a piss by sneaking up and stabbing him in the neck. He stole his iron cross and scrimshaw swastika in addition to his Walther P38. He got to be such a menace they called in arty on him and nearly got him, but he instead got thrown into a ditch where he crawled 5 miles back to allied HQ.

Fucker was badass. I didn't learn about what he actually did until after he died.

Great grandpa shot by Japanese behind a graveyard in around 1942.

Grandpa, my mother's father, joined CPC army and got premoted to an officer in a military court during WWII. Thats why he turned a judge later. One can actually benefit from the war

Burger here.
>maternal grandparents only a couple generations removed from der Vaterland
>great-grandfather was a German immigrant, still spoke German at home
>his German cousin once sent him an angry letter saying something along the lines of "your sons are bombing my sons!"
>grandpa and several of his brothers were drafted/volunteered right before being drafted
>grandpa was a navigator on a B-17, training somewhere in southern California near LA
>Japan got nuked & surrendered a week before his training was finished
>hesitated on going out to party with his friends, got stuck on base for a while
>maternal grandma's brother-in-law was killed in the Battle of the Bulge, I guess that's something

>paternal grandparents not really that interesting
>grandpa wasn't old enough to enlist during the war, was an NCO in the 50s
>never saw action or anything, was stateside the entire time
>Irish Catholic from MA, stationed in San Francisco, moved out there and lived in CA the rest of his life
>I have no clue what my grandma was doing then, mostly because she's too dead to tell me

>>3105206
My grandpa made note that "The damn Europeans were killing each other again" and lived his life out as a plantation owner until the damn commies destroyed everything

>>3105206
This might be cheating because this person is not related to me or to my family but he thinks of me as sort of a grandson so I don't know if I should post this if its not related to my family. Anyway though, when he was just a toddler in 1941, Nazi Germany invaded Yugoslavia and forced his father into the SS, I don't know much of the details but I was told that his father wasn't given a rifle, he wasn't that a strong or tall man. He and my up north neighbor are ethically Croatian but regardless, his father was forced into the SS under the threat of being shot and his whole family killed as well. He never saw the death camps and after the war he was placed into a Soviet POW camp and the Serbs came down to took his property. His father remained in the Soviet camp until like a few years when they were in Hungary for a short while before they were given the chance to leave Hungary. They choose not to go back to Yugoslavia because there was nothing left of their homes or their property. They settled in Canada before moving to Wisconsin.

>>3108601
Why should they leave their homes if they were the majority population for hundreds of years? The place they lived in was German until 1918.

>>3110088
It wasn't. Why are you trying to discuss history if you clearly don't know it?

>>3110129
Yes, it was Austrian (German) for hundreds of years, only after 1918 it was given to Czechoslovakia.

Soviet Jew family

>Grandpa from fathers side lost his family in a German bombing raid. Joined the red army. Fought in the Caucasian mountains during the great retreat. Got injured badly. When recovered couldn't go back to his unit because it was encircled and destroyed. Got reassigned to a slighyly less human wavey unit (airforce field intelligence). Was in battles of Warsaw and Berlin. Stayed in Germany for few years in the occupation force. Was military governor of some small village. Got few medals and a membership in the commy party even though he was secretly cynical about gommunism. Stopped hating all Germans during his time there.
>Maternal grandpa was 12, evacuated before the Germans captured his town and worked in armaments factory. His older brother worked with him but became 18 and forfeited the papers he had that allowed him not to be drafted because of his work, voluntered to the guards infantry and was killed few months after near Brest. Was considered missing in action until we found his name in the soviet archives few years ago.
>father's grandma worken in a telegraph station
>Maternal grandma's family were under Nazi occupation. First they were concentrated in a Ghetto guarded by Romanian soldiers. There was famine and disease many died. Survivers were shipped to a nazi camp in Ukraine. Those who didn't work were executed. One day the Germans left in a haste due to a Soviet surprise attak that took control of the area. Her grandparents didn't survive but her parents did. Her father got separated from them but escaped the guards during a night death march. Later he got send to the Gulag and survived that as well but his health was finished and he died shortly after. Her uncle was in prison when the war started. Got shipped to the front with the other prisioners probably in the punitive battalions. Nobody ever bothered to inform them how he died. He just never returned.

>>3105612
>Not a glorious track record, but hey you can't choose when you're born.
That's probably the reason you are alive son

>>3105206
They just kept farming as usual. One of my great-grandfathers mined some wolfranium to sell to the Germans

>Greek

We killed Shitalians
Starved
Killed G*rms
and killed Commies

paternal grandparents:

> he met grandma after the invasion of poland there
> served in a wehrmacht police unit mainly on eastern front (Dnieper region)
> got married by proxy cause my father came
> must have seen and done horrible things but never talked about
> finally deserted from the defence of vienna and escaped hiding until war was over
> postwar grandparents couldn´t sleep in same room anymore
> he screamed every night for over 40 years - pillow was always wet and bloody
> even the neighbors were disturbed offering desperated help
> last years he was always drunken - grandma hated him said she was married with a devil
> his war was never ending and he got visited by his victims any nite, she also said
> his last wish was that he refused a christian burial
> found his letters from the front when I was collecting stamps


maternal grandfather:

> joined the U-Bootwaffe (submarines)
> was on 3 patrols
> killed in action on 13 April 1942 of the coast of North Carolina when the boat was sunk
> buried at Hampton National Cemetery, E - Grave 702


maternal grandmother:

> she was runnig a dairy farm with her parents
> got two labor force workers and a young girl from russia and a french POW
> they had to live in the stable and were strictly watched by local police
> after the war she married the french pow so I had a french pépe
> both died in a car accident aged 85
> one of the russian worker and the girl later also got married

>>3110327

How did Maternal Nana survive?

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Italian/Jamaican
>Italian grandpa (~15 at the time) is orphaned after an allied bomb obliterates his house (Naples)
>This was after his brother had been killed in the spanish civil war. (Garibaldi brigade)
>eventually ends up in the resistance, takes part in the "four days of naples" liberating the city
>several decades later he gives me a couple medals, two he took from Germans he killed and one belonged to his father (WWI vet)
Jamaican side
>very lightskinned
>early in the war makes his way to London
>enlists in the RAF, spends the war flying a spitfire
>survives relatively unscathed and spends the rest of his life relaxing back in Jamaica.

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>>3110616
>... spends the rest of his life relaxing back in Jamaica

keked a little bit

>>3110612
You mean the one that got shipped to the camp with her family?
When they were at the Gettho she was about 11 and would sneak outside to the normal neighbourhoods to work and forage for food cosplayling as a non Jew. The camp they got shipped to was labor camp. It was small and didn't had extermination facilities, people would get shot or die from overwork but large scale extermination would be done in a separate camp you needed to be specifically transferred to.
At some point there was a tuberculosis outbreak and her mother got stationed to work in the isolation barrack. She took her there and even though she got very sick the Germans stayed away out of fear of catching it too and they didn't had time to decide what to do with them because the front broke too close to them. One German soldier got forgotten by his unit and barricaded himself on the roof and made his last stand there. The Russian infantry just sweeped in a huge wave from the fields. They gave them food and asked for names of collaborators some of which were locals and some Jews. They shot / hanged them and moved on.

>>3105866
My grand grandma was in about that area. She got singled out by some German officer while doing road constraction because she took of her coat with the yellow david star due to the heat and ordered by him to board a horse cart full of others going to some unknown place. The cart was guarded by a Romanian soldier or policeman. When it turned a corner he told her to run away, which she did. If you wish you can imagine that it was your grand grandpa.

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>>3110736
>When they were at the Gettho she was about 11 and would sneak outside to the normal neighbourhoods to work and forage for food cosplayling as a non Jew.

Did it ever occur to her to just sneak out and not come back? Find someone willing to take her in and claim she was their child?

>inb4 harbored by a child molester

>One German soldier got forgotten by his unit and barricaded himself on the roof and made his last stand there.

Holy shit, did he go down like some zombie apocalypse shit mowing down the red hordes or the Russians just shoot him from afar?

>The Russian infantry just sweeped in a huge wave from the fields.

Did they charge the camp expecting it to be full of German soldiers? Were they racing there to try and save as many people as they could? Or just they stumble on it by accident?

>>3108314
>Brits are alright
>hasn't read Hellstorm or Bombing Vindicated

>>3110893
>Did it ever occur to her to just sneak out and not come back? Find someone willing to take her in and claim she was their child?
She wanted to take care of her family and at that point she was the only one who was able to sneak out and bring food. What you suggest was offered several times by a family friend (a local milk lady from a nearby village) that wanted to take her to her farm and hide her there as her child. Somehow they waited for the absolute worst before they break up the family and when it happened they didn't had time to do that.
>>inb4 harbored by a child molester
That's actually not very far off. She was 10 or 11 when it started and she said that by 12-13 it became much more dangerous with the polizai (local collaborators) feeling her up more and more vulgarly to search for contraband.
>Holy shit, did he go down like some zombie apocalypse shit mowing down the red hordes or the Russians just shoot him from afar?
I'm not sure, she said something along the lines of "he was alone, what could he do, it ended very quickly". The situation has stroke a cord with me too. How can you get yourself forgotten in a midst of people you did the absolute worst things to?
>Did they charge the camp expecting it to be full of German soldiers? Were they racing there to try and save as many people as they could? Or just they stumble on it by accident?
Have no idea. I think it was just part of a huge advance into the area. She just said that it was surreal because most of the Germans left and there was a time when nobody was in control before the Russians came. She just remembered how young they were (more like teenagers than hardy soldiers) and that they looked really scared and were shouting and asking if the German are still around. Probably some new conscripts that got trough hell recently.

My great grandfather was an officer in the engineers at Ypres, was gassed and then came back okay.
My great uncle was on the Kokoda track fighting the Japanese

>>3108776
>The japs were pretty chill
>In Nanjing

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>>3105206
My grandfather was a nomad tending to reindeers in northern Sweden. He was living in isolation with his father, I'm not even sure if he was aware of the war.

>>3111375
Yeah, it never happened you know. Not the way the commies tell it.
Check out Irish Chang's mental background.
Here we got the truth from the horse's mouth...
>inb4 jap detected

>>3107825
>>3110088
>>3110244
>being this autistic
Krauts claiming Sudety is literally like being invited into the someone´s house with your family and claiming it as your 1 week later only because there are more members of your family than of those of owner.
Krauts got invited there in early Medieval by Czech dukes, they sworn allegiance to Czech crown, therefore to Czechoslovakia as well.

>>3111469
Pretty sure the Germans that made that oath weren't around in 1938 cause, you know, almost a millenium isn't 1 week and the majority was German back then, so it should have been German land, nowadays the majority is Czech, so it's Czech land, simple as that.

>>3105364
probably partisans.

Italy here
My grandpa (dad's side) was conscripted in 1943. He was a marconist - the guy with the phone backpack. He was deployed in the Trieste area, never had any encounter with the enemy until after Italy switched sides, at which point he was captured by Germans with the whole unit and deported to a POW camp in Austria. He was the sole survivor of his group. Others either died in the Cano or got accidentally killed by Americans feeding them potatoes and chocolate after they starved for more than a year.

My other grandpa was a submariner. He came back and became a police officer in the new republic. He was a very strict man and raised his two daughters like foot soldiers, basically. Waking up at dawn and folding the covers at the foot of the bed, washing and getting their clothes inspected before school, replying "command!" when addressed by him etc. Mom kept folding the covers like that well into her adult life.

>>3110588
> joined the U-Bootwaffe (submarines)
> killed in action on 13 April 1942 of the coast of North Carolina when the boat was sunk

Wut? Did German submarines really get that close to mainland U.S?

>>3113253
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dm2m8y3hQ8

Jup, didn't pose a threat to the mainland though, of course. A Japanese sub once fired a few shells at a town on the West Coast, iirc

>>3113253

They actually landed a team of agents on US soil to try and sabotage American war industry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pastorius

>From my mother side:

My grandfather served in the italian army, but luckily for him he was sent to the south, in Bari, to do garrison duty.
He risked of being sent to the russian front, but they never sent him there, he remained in the south untill a little bit after the end of the war, when he went back to his home in the north.
Also while the germans were stationed in his home town they took control of the roof of his house and mounted a machine gun there.


My grandmother was 12-13 when the war ended, she still recalls the late stages of the war, her home town wasn't much important but the Allies did bomb it once. They bombed the train station because from air recoinnance they mistook some old train wagons for some kind of military cargo.
She told me how, at the end of the war, a couple of german tanks were mistook by the locals for americans and met with celebrations.
Her father (my great-grandfather) had fought in ww1 and by the time of ww2 was the owner of a little watermill and a small shop. During the war food had to be rationed and his shop was closed because he sold a bag of flour to woman when he wasn't supposed to.

>From my father's side:

Both my grandparents (serbs) were too young do have done anything ww2.
My grandpa's father in theory was born in 1900 in Montenegro so he also avoided being drafted in ww1 (though my father suspects he lied about his age back then).

From what I have understood my grandma's father and brother were sent to Mathausen, my great-grandfather died on the way and never reached the camp. My great uncle survived the camp, mostly because the guy who decided were the prisoners was sent had pity of him and assigned him to work in the kitchens.
He and other liberated prisoners decided to go back to the east amd join their "communist comrades" by following the Danube with a raft/boat and almost got shot down by the red army.

I had a great uncle in the french resistance. My grandfather was a STO worker though. My other grandfather was just a kid. Also my grandmother was in normandy at the time and heard the shore bombardment on D day.

>>3105206
North-italian anon.
>Paternal side geat grandfathe was responsible to manage the workers for a chain of quarries.
>He was actually pretty good at his job.
>Gets drafted for the african front.
>Moments before jumping on the boat to africa the officer approaches him with the owner of said quarries and tells him that hes going back home.
>Looks like the owner found him the only man capable enough to handle his quarries.
>10 years old grandma
>It's 1943 and the armistice just happened.
>Some antifascist and partisans assault a strategic point of the germans.
>They actually get it.
>Now my grandma is coming back from school.
>the german counter offensive is approaching.
>Literally some german aircraft pilot decide to drop a volley of fire on my grandma.
>Miss my grandma for something like, 2 meter.
>still grandma (something that she loved to tell me when i was a kid).
>Republic of salò just happened.
>Mussolini calls every man for one last desperate fight.
>Grandma father says "fuck yall i ain't joining the party"
>Germans start racking nearby towns for guys to dump in the frontline.
>the father and other family member choose to hide in the mountains.
>One day the germans enter her house.
>Grandma start cry.
>This german soldier approaches her and he start to tranquilize her by speaking about his kids in germany and that they will do nothing bad.
>Don't get nothing out of my great grandmother and choose to go away.
>From that day the same group came back periodically and the german soldier allways brought some candies for her.
>She actually built a good relationship with that guy until the war ended.
kinda regret not asking the guy name now that she have died (if she remembered it in first place).

From the maternal side i have complete painful silence because they hated the fascist as much as the partisans for what they have done.
The only thing i know is that my grand grandfather sister got kidnapped by the partisans and she was never seen again :/.

>>3114103
Per curiosità, dove nel nord?

German Mennonite in Canada,

One side- Built a road to nowhere near st.Jacobs for infrastructure war effort though no one ever used it mostly just hung back and chilled

Other side- Some put in camps for being supportive and ties to German-American Bund as well as parties in Canada.

Not much, we already where basically forced to english our surnames and learn to speak English after the first world war, even towns/streets and what not became English.

>>3105378
>My Grandad's (on my dad's side) Uncles were theatre actors who became involved with the rebels who fought in the Easter Rising.
That's really interesting. My great-grandfather was also a theatre worker who fought in the Rising (he was at the Four Courts instead of the GPO) so it's very likely our ancestors knew each other.

>>3114146
piemontese

>>3106823
I'm a foreigner who visited Norge on Holiday lately. I come from so far away I didn't even know Norway did anything but fall over in the war.

The subterfuge of the allies regarding a fake potential landing in Norway/Hitler's batshit insanity made him commit an assload of resources and troops to an area where the allies would never invade. Your resistance museum is not overstated or dramatic and shows that people continued a struggle against a hopelessly almighty enemy that specialised in speedy, overwhelming attacks, and and they did what they could. That's something to be proud of. Consider that the Russians were the only nation able to defend and counter against the Nazi war machine, and they did it through numbers and the vastness of territory as well as enormous fuckups by Hitler including supply lines. Norway held out the second longest, which is not bad for a small country.

>I feel like I would like people to be more patriotic and stuff. Muh living standards

There is often very little to be proud of when it comes to your country in war. Be proud anyway. The French are proud because they were butchered in masses. The Americans are proud because they clawed tiny spits of sand and palm trees at the cost of so many. I come from a country that did nothing but die in Jungles and slave camps to an enemy that thought we were beneath human, but I am proud.

I think your irritation is misplaced and juvenile desu. Your living standards are astonishingly high and you enjoy unprecedented wealth as a nation. The fifty gypsies and (literally) two black guys I saw in the centre of Oslo aren't going to change that.

>>3110965
>That's actually not very far off. She was 10 or 11 when it started and she said that by 12-13 it became much more dangerous with the polizai (local collaborators) feeling her up more and more vulgarly to search for contraband.

Did they go all the way with her or just fondle?

>>3105206
>be my turkish family of farmers
>live the hard an simple farmer life for centuries
>still do the same when everything around their country is going to shit
>maybe be afraid of the commies invading like they did in finland

That's it sort of.

>>3105206
iranian armenian family

>great grandpa got conscripted to Iranian army
>anglo-soviet army invades iran in 1941
>iranian army gets dismantled
>reza shah forced to abdicate.

>>3113483
Thanks for that, I spent most of the article laughing. Can you imagine a German guy walking right into the FBI offices trying to hand himself in and not a single person believing him? It would make for a great film

>>3105403
Good riddance, the only good commie is a dead one.

>>3114854
To all other anons. Please steer clear of the edges.

>>3115213
There is nothing edgy about killing communists.

>>3105206
Argentinan family
>Europeans are at war
>poses lands
>sell crops to both sides
>???
>profit and in the process have the biggest amount of children for no reason as you can

Belaruse/Georgian background.
Most of my great grandfathers fought in Red Army, two died

one on Belarussian side made it into Germany and stole a big two hundred year old German grandfather clock that was in pieces, somehow got it back to Belarus and restored it, a few years ago it was shipped to Australia, where its sitting in my home now.

Don't know much else since all my family apart from siblings and parents are either dead or still overseas.

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>>3114792

It'd make for an even greater alt-history story if they had succeeded and it causes widespread panic in the U.S. and an escalation of the war (i.e. US Special Forces are dropped into Germany to sabotage the German war industry and discover opening phases of the Holocaust instead).

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>>3113253
... search for "Operation Drumbeat" or "American shooting season"

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>>3113253
Well, there were even legends about that the german U-Boats ascended the Mississippi or dived along hudson for a periscope sightseeing tour ...

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>>3116421

>be Krautboat
>sail up the Mississippi
>ram a sunken Confederate ironclad and sink
>ram the wreck of the SS Sultana and sink
>run into a sandbar
>get rammed by a drunken tugboat pilot
>get rammed by a riverboat casino
>get snagged on Magnolia trees that are half-underwater
>get attacked en masse by alligators who devour the sub
>get shot by rednecks

doubt.jpg

>>3105382
smrt fašizmu sloboda narodu

Brit Family

Great Granddad was in the original commando's and apparently went on a load of the raids in norway and so on.
His brother was in 617 squadron and was shot down the mission after the dambusters raid over the Dortmund Ems Canal and his other brother drove trucks in burma.

My great grandfather was killed by the Ustase in Bosnia.

>>3107727
they were allies and fully independent

USA today has a much tighter control of Europe today than Germany had over it's allies

all i know is that one on my mothers side fought with the finns in the winter war

They were peasants, nothing glorious or glamorous
My great-grandma told me a story of when the Germans invaded (this is in Czechoslovakia btw)

>living in some village (I think in Sudetenland actually, but she was of Hungarian origin and her husband was Czech)
>hear the Germans are gonna march through
>grab the cow and go hide in the woods
>they pass
>go back
>realize your one nice painting is GONE
>blamed the neighbours until her death

I had a great-uncle or something who died from an infected wound...not sure what side he was fighting on, but same country

also my grandfather was born during the war, and as a kid playing in the woods, he found a gun (and told the village officials)
my other grandpa also said you could find equipment into the '50s

even today, walking through the woods you will still find craters from shelling