Iran-Iraq War

>>3103440
You mean the war of western aggression?

*electrocutes the swamp you're standing in*

>>3103455
Tell me more about these grimdark details. I heard about this in a thread before, but can you tell me about the details again?

>>3103440

Imagine WW1 but fought with Cold War technology. Pretty much hell on earth.

>>3103466
http://articles.latimes.com/1990-08-14/news/wr-831_1_saddam-hussein
>"You wait until nighttime, and you will see how we are killing these Iranian dogs," an Iraqi officer said with a broad grin. "We are frying them like eggplants."
>He then took us on a tour of dozens of thick electrical cables his troops had lain through the marshy battlefield, a spaghetti network that snaked in and out of the patchwork of lagoons. He showed us the mammoth electric generators that fed the exposed power lines from positions just behind the Iraqi front lines. And, when the Iranian Revolutionary Guards made their regular evening advance, the officer and his men demonstrated the macabre genius of their invention.
>Iraqi gun batteries fired just enough artillery to force the Revolutionary Guards from their marsh boats, and, when hundreds of them had been forced to continue their advance through the lagoons on foot, the men manning the Iraqi generators flipped a few switches and sent thousands of volts of electricity surging through the marshland.
>Within seconds, hundreds of Iranians were electrocuted.
>But the horror show did not end there. The following morning, Iraqi troops began another grisly routine that the officer called "the morning road detail."
>They made their way through the marshes, gathering up the dead Iranian soldiers like dynamite fishermen harvesting a day's catch. Working methodically, the Iraqis piled the corpses on top of one another in the water in head-to-toe stacks, five bodies high and five across.
>Together, the human piles formed long rows, the width of a troop truck, the top layers above the water's surface. Each row extended in a straight line through the marshes from the Iraqis' positions toward the Iranian border. Finally, the rows were sprinkled with lime and covered over with a foot-thick tier of desert sand.
>It was the Iraqi method of road building, using the bodies of their enemies to construct assault routes for tanks and trucks.

gas
trenches
kid soldiers
human wave attacks
cruelty in general

>>3103665
Sounds pretty Assyrian.

>>3103665
that's fucking wild

And I'm trying to remember the details about their air forces.

I think Iraq had a shit load more copters but the Iranian F-1X's fucked a ton of em up.

I think this was also the first war with helicopters fighting other helicopters

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Iraq, having the 4th largest army with one of the largest armored forces, modern air fleet and financial backing from most arab nations and weapons from both the US and the soviets failed to break Iran which had its army ravaged by the islamic revolution
it was humongously brutal, with Iran using human wave attacks and childrens as minesweepers while Iraq using gas weapon
in the end i think what most people tend to forget that Iran backed down when America threaten to enter the war due to attack on their ships (even though the US fucking shot down a commercial airliner) and that the Iran are guaranteed to not face any territorial changes

Emptying entire prisons and making the prisoners run en masse to clear a minefield for their freedom in order for the revolutionary guard to advance.

Launching chemical weapons at cities in an attempt to demoralize the enemy but it only pisses them off even further and swells their ranks.

Helicopter dogfights.

Jets shooting down helicopters.

Trench warfare and human wave attacks.

This whole war makes me REEEE hard.

>>3103665
Would this actually work? It sounds like a journalist being gullible.

>>3103665
and there are still faggots that say war is awesome
with all the images, information, testimony, even video

fuck this gay earth

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>During the Fateh offensive in February 1987, I toured the southwest front on the Iranian side and saw scores of boys, aged anywhere from nine to sixteen, who said with staggering and seemingly genuine enthusiasm that they had volunteered to become martyrs. Regular army troops, the paramilitary Revolutionary Guards and mullahs all lauded these youths, known as baseeji [Basij], for having played the most dangerous role in breaking through Iraqi lines. They had led the way, running over fields of mines to clear the ground for the Iranian ground assault. Wearing white headbands to signify the embracing of death, and shouting "Shaheed, shaheed" (Martyr, martyr) they literally blew their way into heaven. Their numbers were never disclosed. But a walk through the residential suburbs of Iranian cities provided a clue. Window after window, block after block, displayed black-bordered photographs of teenage or preteen youths.

the rightful land of Iran is stained with blood of martyr, praise these disciples of Hassan and Husayn. Remember to raise the flag of black and green height and embrace the spirit of Karbala!

>>3103743
Iran backed down because if the US entered into the war they would've lost super hard.

>>3103986
obviously
and the funny thing is the US didn't want both sides to win,they just currently hated the Iranian more

>>3103986
US wasn't going to directly enter the war after the the Iran-Contra Affair had shattered global respect for the US and the economic effects on the oil industry due to the war was also affecting the West hard.

>>3103743
Arabs are bad at wars post-12th century.

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>>3103663
>Imagine WW1 but fought with Cold War technology. Pretty much hell on earth.

Bump for interest.

>>3103440
A good starting point is the Iranian Revolution in the late 1970s. Saddam Hussein had been LARPing as a Nebuchudnezzar type figure for a while and had sought to expand Iraq's borders. Khuzestan, an Arab-majority province of Iran bordering Iraq seemed like a good place to start. Khuzestan also was important economically due to some river that flows through there (I don't remember which).

So when the Iranian revolution happened, they had alienated the West and they had severe purges of their military (about 12,000 officers), Saddam figured he could overrun Khuzestan with few problems. However, Iran's military wasn't as weak as Saddam hoped. While the Iraqis had more tanks, the Iranians had more fighter aircraft and helicopters. And helicopters played a BIG role in the war. In fact, it is the only known war to have helicopter-vs-helicopter fighting.

While the Iraqis had some great successes in 1980, but 1981 it was clear they would not overrun all of Khuzestan and force an Iranian surrender. The stalemate would largely go back-and-forth. In 1983 the Iraqi Kurds rose up against Hussein and allied with the Iranians. By 1986 most international observers were saying that Iran was prevailing, however a few battles later it looked like Iraq was winning.

By and large, international opinion favored Iraq during the war, with Syria being the only counter-example I can think of.

To give you an idea how little the front lines moved in the war, check this out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09TnwicyQx8

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>>3103631
>Kurds fighting Kurds
>Israel on Irans side
>Romania

>>3103631
>United States on both sides of the war
Why am I not surprised

>>3105646
>EIGHT YEARS

>>3103440
bump for interest

>>3103743
>human wave meme
fucking stop

>>3103440
I recommend The Iran-Iraq War by by Pierre Razoux and Nicholas Elliott for a full breakdown.

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>>3103440
>that one iraqi diaspora that keeps posting whenever a thread like this is made butthurt about "muh strategic win" and "muh khomeini" cause his dad or something fought in it and want the US to invade Iran
>eventhough what the US did to his nation was a 100 times worse

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>>3103631
>Israel (denied by Iran)

>>3103631
holy shit what the fuck, not even Paradox can achieve this levels of clusterfuck

>>3103631
How did Israel support Iran?

>>3105881
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%27s_role_in_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war
>Arms sales to Iran that totaled an estimated $500 million from 1981 to 1983 according to the Jafe Institute for Strategic Studies at Tel Aviv University.
>Arms shipments from the U.S. to Iran in the Iran-Contra Affair facilitated by Israel.
>Israel's June 7, 1981 attack on Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor which set back Iraq's nuclear program. In fact, Iran bombed them first, back in 1980, but they only damaged secondary buildings.
>Israel is also reported to have supplied instructors and non-armaments help to Iran for the war effort.

>>3103631
Really makes you think

>>3103440
What a good book about this conflict?

>>3106010
>>3105823
Ah thanks I didn't read the whole thread.
I'm assuming that's more of a history and I will check it out. Also are there any good works of journalists who were there? I'm thinking of something along the lines of Michael Herr or Anthony Loyd

>>3105893
>Israel's attack on the osirak reactor
Shit never fails to trigger me. My uncle lead the development and construction and had just left the country when the israelis came. Years worth of his life destroyed in seconds, for complete bullshit causes.
The reactor was never intended for any form of nuclear arms production.

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>>3106010
persepolis

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Some pictures
>during the capture of Khorramshahr the Iraqis placed upturned cars at the outskirts of the city to prevent an Iranian airborne assault either with helicopters or paratroopers

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>>3106179
>we ride eternal in Karbala, shiny and chrome

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>>3106210

>>3106212

>>3106179
How would upturned cars prevent helicopter or paratrooper attacks?

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>>3106215

>>3106220
I believe this one says "لبخند بزن، ای برادر", "Smile, brother"

>>3106217
Maybe you slap into the cars?

I'm not sure

>>3106217
It's much harder to land - obviously you choose a clear landing site.

>>3103631
>Kurds on both sides
>Israel on Iran's
>The US on both sides
>USSR and the west on the same side
What a clusterfuck.

>>3106290
Why was the USSR against Iran?

I know traditionally Russia was a rival against Persia, but don't they almost always ally against the USA?

Also, they are partners with iran today, when did that relationship start?

>>3106382
>Why was the USSR against Iran?
Cause the USSR have been trying to create autonomous communist states in Northwestern Iran since the early 20's, with Kurdistan being a remnant of that surviving today. And also the occupation after they feared Iran having too good of a relation with Nazi germany.
>I know traditionally Russia was a rival against Persia, but don't they almost always ally against the USA?
Iran back then was more or less a US ally since the Shah was pro-Western and against the Soviet for reasons mentioned above.
And yes, while the war happened right after he was ousted the Soviets didn't feel secure enough with the new regime to suddenly back them over Saddam that looked like the sure winner of the war. Also the new regime was against the ideals of gommunism which was atheism with their strict religious rule, so another point for Saddam.
>Also, they are partners with iran today, when did that relationship start?
After the fall of the Soviet Union

>>3106456
Neat thanks

>>3106026
>>3106010
Gonna post recs soon keep the threa bunped

>>3103631

>united states on both sides

>united states and N.Korea on the same side

>united states and Soviet union on same side

>Romania? ..what?

>Israel on Iran's side?

Alliances are such confusing things.

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>>3103631
you can't lose a war if your on both sides

>>3103440
Basically Iraq went to war with Iran

>>3106055
Fuck off Ar*b*.

>>3107034
His uncle was probably a French contractor. One of them died in the attack iirc and the French just evacuated everyone, including people who've worked on it for years.

>>3105822
they send waves of conscript to advance in the frontline to probe the defense line in multiple succession until they exploit it
if thats not human wave then i dont know what is

>>3107034
>>3107242
He is, as well as me, German. He also sadly lost the memory to his Alzheimers by now Im afraid. Not sure how many other people who knew firsthand what the facilities could and couldnt do are still alive and well...

>>3103964
The middle east was always fucked up but each generation of western faggots imagines that it only got destabilised and inhumane recently.

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>>3107335
>each generation of western faggots imagines that it only got destabilised and inhumane recently.
I'm a "western faggot" and am well aware that its been fucked for a very long time.
>>3107328

>>3106290
>Iranian Kurds fighting for Iraq
>Iraq Kurds fighting for Iran

On the surface this whole thing is really fucking weird.

>>3107316
>He dindu nothing
Fuck off, you know very well why dictators by nuclear reactors. Also its fairly common knowledge that Israel was provided with accurate intel for the attack by the western contractors, including perhaps placing guiding beacons on the site. The only question that's still debated if it was government level exchange of intel between France and Israel or a Mossad operation to infiltrate the contractors on the ground (or a Mossad operation the the french didn't prevent on purpose).

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>>3107480
Maybe this is what I wanted.

>>3107340
When I wrote western faggots I meant the millenial snowflake imagining that history begins with Bush-II invading Iraq. Not the actual professional structures in the west or enthusiasts that bother to read.

>>3107350
>Those shoos
>This dagger
>That Saddam picture
>That tank painted to look like the bleached desert
>That heroic pose slightly before the slaughter begins
>That tragic future
>That not knowing that the hard times have only jut began and that each year will be worse than the previous one well into 2017

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>>3107460
>all dictators want to build nuclear bombs
shiggydiggy

>>3105646
> had sought to expand Iraq's borders

That's just a lie Khomeini wanted to export the Islamic revolution and repeatedly called for the overthrow of the Iraqi government, when the revolution took place Saddam was the first head of state to congratulate Iran and called for friendly relations. The war was Iran's fault.

I'd post the source but it's in a book not online.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War#After_the_Iranian_Revolution

>>3107498

nobody believes that you just made that up

>>3106694
I'm still here my man

>>3108193
>war started by overt Iraqi political and military actions
>"Its Iran's fault"

>>3103905
good point, wondering if theres other sources

if not its still a good wives(wars) tale

>>3106739
Israel wasn't really on Iran's side. They just had interest on fueling a war that was killing so many iranians. Like almost everyone else in the "sides" section, anyways.

>>3108193
>literally attack a nation
>"it's their fault!"

Fucking retard I bet you are of those faggots who believes Poland was attacked in self-defense.

>>3103986
The weird thing is that they didn't lose super hard anyways.

>>3106152
She literally spends the whole war on Austria.

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Bumping

>>3103440
Can we safely say that this was the beginning of the end for Sadam/Iraq? Everything went downhill from there and look at it now, the place is ruined forever.

>>3103938
War is awesome unless you have to kill someone or get someones blood on your hands. Wars in the middle east are always bad because of how barbaric they are

>>3109208
They attacked in self defense, you scum.

>>3109405
t. Adulf al-Abdelrahman

here's a really good documentary on the subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzpAQu2jDZo

>>3103440
Both sides lost. Millions of people (mostly Muslims, but still people) died.

>entire thread almost totally filled with Iraqi/Arab apologists
Absolutely disgusting.

>>3103905
>you will see
>He then took us
>He showed us
>the officer and his men demonstrated

tense is everything, anon - unless the writer was an out-and-out liar

>>3107460
Always a laugh watching an Israeli sperg over some other Middle Eastern country possessing nuclear power.

>>3109112
>Conveniently skips over my points
Iran was funding lots of insurgents and there was repeated cross border skirmishes in the lead up to the invasion. Iran could have responded mutually to Iraqs call for friendship but they weren't interested, there's a reason at the invasion at the time was called a pre-emptive strike

>>3105822
>if I call it a meme then its automatically invalidated haha looks like i won the argument

>>3103440
Kind of reminds me of the Russian Civil War.
>country just went through a revolution
>somehow still manages to save itself against a very big invasion

Turns out when its do or die, people do their best.

>>3103665
>It was the Iraqi method of road building, using the bodies of their enemies to construct assault routes for tanks and trucks.

t. Ashurbanditdiktatorpol

Give credit where It's due; Iran fucking held on and did not crumble, they have my grudging respect

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how could this happen to me
i made my mistakes

>>3111284
Why grudging? They were being brutally attacked (even if it was "pre-emptive") and at the same time suffering horrible repression and great scarcity. You don't have to like Khomeini or the Islamic Republic, it's just clear that anyone who is unbiased would sympathize with iranians in this specific war.

>>3111228
You have no points, Ar*b.

>>3106152
You cheeky cunt.

>>3109208
Not defending Saddam here, but there's plenty of instances where the defending side is to blame for the war.

Two most prominent ones would be Franco-Prussian war where Prussia provoked the attack diplomatically on purpose, and the Georgian-Russian war of 2008 where Russia had been escalating the situation with covert operations and paramilitary groups, but it was Georgia who made the first strike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBxCWsEcQnc

>>3111786
Ah yes weasel your way out of having to refute your claims LARPing persian fag

>>3103631
wtf how did Venice switch sides and still manage to win?

>>3113292
>Persian
You don't have to be Persian to hate Arabs.

>>3109191
I think that a more correct statement would be that they wanted to fuel a war that was killing so many Iraqis which was a more important enemy at the time. An added bonus would be exploring an option of reviving the alliance they had with pre revolution Iran and to help Reagan with his contra shenanigans to gain favor with him.

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>>3105868
The perfidious gondola can

>>3113781
I partly agree except for the possibility of a sincere israelite attempt to exploring the option of an alliance with Khomeini. Remember that we're talking about a country with one of the best intelligence services in the world, I'm sure that early in the war they had enough info to know that they could not forge good relations with Iran.

>>3111301
>A strong neighbor gets really unstable with some crazy freaks that hate everyone and wanting to spread their revolution come to power. Tell everyone to fuck themselves.
>A Stalin like dictator finds this offensive and unsettling since 50% of his population are Shia and their holy sites are in his territory
>Decides to strike first before they organize themselves and also because he likes to LARP as a conquering general

>>3113845
>50% of his population are Shia
Isn't it closer to 70%? Also I think a big part of this had to do with the Shah bombing the shit out of Iraq when they got uppity in the past.

>>3113843
Or perhaps they viewed the war as an opportunity for the military, with whom they had a lot of past ties to assert itself and gain power over the religious new comers. Surely actual geopolitical issues will prevail over some purely ideological hatred and establish relations even if unofficial like the ones they have with the Saudis and many other arab countries. Would be reasonable to view this as a possible scenario.

>>3113845
You mean I'm supposed to sympathize with the iraqi Stalin, who is a larper and paranoic?

Nothing against the iraqi people, by the way. They're not to blame for Sadam being cruel and retarded.

>>3113853
Not sure, I think it started as Suni majority and changed over time to be Shia majority we have today.
The Sha bombed Iraq? Can you tell me more about it?

>>3113879
I'm not him. I'm just stating the fact that there is really no need to "sympathize" with anyone. Sometimes you can just be neutral. It's not sport teams.

>>3113871
Now that you mention it, maybe they didn't even expect Khomeini to stay in power for so long. The ability of the islamic republic to survive and remain stable (more ME standards) is astounding. Maybe Israel hoped the Tudeh, the army or some other power to eventually come to power.

>>3113909
For ME standards, not more, sorry.

>>3113909
Exactly. It wasn't the main play but there were a lot of people in the Israeli security establishment that were used to go to Tehran on a regular basis just few years before and had close relations with the Generals there. The defense contractors were used to work there and were eager to resume sales. The Islamic revolution thing was a new phenomena in the area and as I mentioned Iraq has sent troops to actually fight against Israel on several occasions, were funding a lot of palestinian groups, Sadam was building a nuclear reactor and some super canon that can reach Tel Aviv and boasted about it all the time.

>only half Iraqi
Fuck

>>3113887
Iraq was an extension of Iran till its creation post-world war 2 as a modern individual nation state. So when the Safavids started making everyone Shia in Persia proper, so to did it take with the Iraqi Arabs.

>>3107354
>>Iranian Kurds fighting for Iraq
>>Iraq Kurds fighting for Iran
>>On the surface this whole thing is really fucking weird.

Not really. There are Iranian Kurds, Iraqi Kurds, Turkish Kurds, Syrian Kurds, Sunni Kurds, Shiite Kurds, Christian Kurds, Communist Kurds, and quite a few in between

>>3114898
WRONG!

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/disintegration-iraqi-state-has-its-roots-world-war-i-180951793/

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>>3103631
*blocks your path*

>>3114898
The Safavids only controlled Iraq during the reigns of Ismail and Abbas. It was ottoman most of the time.

>>3109055
almost done with it, will post tomorrow

>>3103440
My father lived and had friends serve in the Iraqi army throughout the whole duration of the war, I can answer questions about it if there is interest.

>>3105658
>>3106739
Ceausescu did nothing wrong

>>3115700
Iraq was largely a part of the greater Persian homeland though for thousands of years. And Iranians even when not directly controlling it had a major influence on it, hence why it even back when Iran became Shia, Iraq followed suit very shortly afterwards.

>>3115688
that one's not nearly as weird

So is it ironic that Iraq is basically an Iranian proxy state + lawless borderland now? So much for Ba'athism

>>3113909
This is the best explanation, wanted to post it too.

>>3118219
Iranians play the long game. I've even seen a theory that it was them who, via proxy, gave the US a tip about """"WMDs"""" which, while obviously fake, gave the Americans a casus belli against Saddam they didn't want to overlook. Then demographics, democratic government (which the Americans themselves installed), sectarianism and general corruption predictably tipped Iraq over to Iran's side.

>>3118250
>while obviously fake
I don't understand this contention. It's a fact that Saddam had WMDs and used them in the war with Iran. Just because we either didn't find any or they were all dismantled and destroyed before we could find them doesn't mean the whole thing was "fake."

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>>3118219
Iran might have a 200k shia militia force loyal to them but the government and by that the army is more or less against Iranian influences

however, the moment this guy goes from being neutral to supporting the Iranian regime then we might aswell call Iraq little Iran

>>3106456
>>3106480
Also the Soviets (rightfully) suspected some iranian involvement in Afghanistan and Irak had been sort of an ally for a while, Ba'athism being sometimes seen as a form of socialism.

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>>3105658
>>3105732
>>3105846
>>3103631
Still better than this

Anyone have the one with Venice? Which one was that?

>>3106456

The Soviets were also afraid of Muslim insurgencies in the caucuses being funded by Iran.

>>3118434
No dude, the ones with the pope and France shitflinging was better.

>>3103440
https://ruor.uottawa.ca/bitstream/10393/27848/1/MR49206.PDF
Read this
It's a very good overview of the war
I have a ton of more documents like this but this is really the best comprehensive overview

>>3118256
He obviously had WMD's as he used them in at least 2 wars (against Iran and against the Kurds). It's totally moronic that the view that he somehow didn't had them because they weren't found took control over the public discourse.
Btw, the fact that the Bush administration didn't just plant them is the best argument against 9/11 conspiracy. Much easier to use some small secret military unit " to find WMD's" and silence your critics than to plan a major civilian attack with thousands of conspirators.

>>3118915
>Saddam didn't have weapons of mass des-
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/16/world/cia-is-said-to-have-bought-and-destroyed-iraqi-chemical-weapons.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2006/04/wowie_zahawie.html
>Saddam had no ties to al-Qaed-
https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/06/21/a-myth-revisited-saddam-hussein-had-no-connection-to-al-qaeda/
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/27/opinion/clear-ties-of-terror.html

>>3103964

this is honestly so fucking extreme and grim i struggle thinking it's not fiction

>>3119025
Jesus fuck make your point in words and than, if you wish support it with sources. Nobody is going to follow 5 links to understand what you are trying to say.

>>3119025
We knew he had chemical weapons. That was his whole shtick during the Iran Iraq War. We didn't even bat an eye and just blamed Iran for continuing the conflict and necessitating their use. What the fuck is your point?

>>3119025
Cool, it's a historical revisionist.

I love those.

Why don't you post what the Iraq Survey Group said about Saddam and WMD?

>>3115688
>sweden

>>3107522
fuck

Will Iraq ever recover?

>>3115688
>>3119618
Yeah, Sweden was pretty vocally pro-vietnam (pro Pol Pot too incidentally).

Prime minister Palme said that the Hanoi bombing during Linebacker II was a crime against humanity on par with the soviet cleansings in Poland and the holocaust.

Wait, chemical weapons and mass destruction weapons are the same?

>>3120245
WMDs are synonomous with NBCs:
>Nuclear
>Chemical
>Biological
Iraq had Chemical and even used it in war, had a Biological weapons program that was very close to being operationally ready, and they tried to get Nuclear.

>>3107522
>his optimism and hope: gone

>>3109300
Oh wow they are using chinese bombers there

>>3121251
Israel destroyed their French made nuclear enrichment facilities with a deep, penetrating covert airstrike during the chaos of the Iran Iraq War. Reagan was fucking furious. It was, unfortunately, Israel's best shot at a preemptive strike and they had to take it or risk a nuclear Iraq intent on eradicating them after Egypt failed miserably.

>>3118282
>one book leaning
>that stoicism
Truly the acme of asceticism

>>3109505
fuck off indy

>>3103440
My dad and godfather served in the Iran-Iraq war, AMA.

>>3118256
He had WMDs but he didn't have what people think of when they think WMDs (atom bombs).

Why the whole uranium thing otherwise?

>>3118282
But isn't his whole deal being neutral, though? Calling iraqis for unity and all that. Also, being himself iranian, wouldn't open support for Iran undermine his credibility?

>>3111284
Not to mention while the war was going on they were taking in millions of afghan refugees fleeing from the soviets

>>3119788
Probably not. The arabs still straggle with finding their identity because nothing in the random borders of their current countries actually divides between groups that hate each other.

>>3121504
Well its a pretty good symbolic representation. His knowledge base is this!one small book and he is rigid as fuck about it.

>>3123121
>refugees come from east
>send them to the west front to check for mines and electric swamps
>"those who survive get to stay in my plane"
>two problems solved, countless of child soldiers survive

Why nobody thought of this?

>>3107522
feels

>>3119890
source on sweden supporting pol pot?

>>3122167
>white
>indy
Fuck off, Arab.

>>3123384
Honestly, I got that from my dad who was a socialist/communist during the 70s. But if you want a real source here's >wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birgitta_Dahl
Member of parliament for 30 years, Khmer Rouge apologist during the 70s, only apologised for it 20 years later, and she was still in parliament until 2002.

>>3103440
bump

>>3118396
>France and Venice
Is a more backstabbing conniving alliance possible?

>>3118434
I think you mean
>>3118396

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>>3124972
got u pham

>>3106010
Revolutionary Iran by Axworthy has several dedicated chapters to the war.