How accurate is this map, /his/?

>>3088844
>japan
>not sinic
It's bullshit.

>>3088844
complete garbage

Pretty arbitrary.

>>3088844
looks like shit

>>3088844
>slavs and greeks are defined by their religion
>half of europe and anglosphere is defined by a stupid fucking word that lost its meaning about the same time Nigeria got themselves an internet connection
>half of africa might as well be written as "niggers" because apparently they have no defining traits besides not being muslims

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>>3088844
How does he define civilization? What do the countries in the same group have in common?

Greece is more connected to western europe than it is to Russia.

On many levels MENA countries, especially the maghreb, are more similar to other caucasian countries like France than to subsaharan muslim countries.

>>3088868
Is it even possible to divide humankind into a few blocks without making yourself look like a huge retard.

>Japanese
Is this guy British or something?

>>3088897
I don't think so

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>mfw people STILL think fukuyama was more correct than Huntington even though the majority of Huntington's predictions came true

>>3088852
>>3088855
>>3088858
Why is it so easy to trigger redditors?

>>3088897

>Shia and Sunni lumped into the same big Islamobloc.

>Mexico, Brazil, the southern cone and central America having anything in common with each other.

>Russia having anything to do with the rest of the Orthodox.

>America, UK, France and Germany having anything in common with each other.

>>3089080
>my puny brain is incapable of making broad categorizations
>hurr durr I have no idea why you would lump France, the UK and Germany together, hurr durr!
Must be sad being a brainlet

>>3088848
Kek, first thing I noticed too.

>>3089088
People get triggered by geopolitical theories that are based in fact it seems.

To everyone ITT I implore you to actually read Huntington's book.

>>3088848
why is the philippines sinic?

>>3088907
It was the 80s.

Everyone saw Japan as an up and coming global power that could challenge 'Merica.

We got Anime Autism instead.

>>3089127
Maybe the Chinese diaspora living there? But then Thailand should be Sinic.

>>3089127
Would Philippines count as Western?

>>3089088
>my puny brain is incapable of making broad categorizations

>Orthodox Christians are completely different from Catholic Christians and Protestant Christians.

>Catholic Christians and Protestant Christians are so similar to each other that they might as well be the same thing.

>Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims are both the same.

>>3089150
Really highlights how retarded this classification is.

Flips are basically SEA-Latinos who don't speak Spic.

>>3088844
>Japan is listed as "Japanese" instead of Sinic but half of Africa is just "African"

>>3089153
If you weren't such a pathetic brainlet yes you'd know that """Catholic""" France and """Protestant""" Germany are much closer to each other than to eastern europe, just like Poland, Hungary and Russia form an "Eastern bloc".

It's a question of geopolitical groups, dummy.

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>>3089171

What about Protestant France?

>>3089150
They might as well be classified as "Latin American" on this map

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>>3089171

What about Catholic Germany?

>>3089209
There haven't been protestants in France in a while, anon.

>>3089212
Do you have a point or are you just asking stupid questions?

>>3089171

And where does America fit in with this?

>>3089217
They fit in the "liberal west" group of course.

>>3089171

Pole fucking hate Russia almost as much as Ukrainians do.

>>3088844

Seems good, you could break things down even further but it would be hard to merge any of these groups usefully (maybe you could meld "Orthodox", "Western" and "Latin American" into a single "European" group).

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>G*rmans
>Western
They are barbarians.

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>>3089048

People think 9/11 proved him right, but America was never Osama's real target.

http://www.thewhig.com/2017/05/31/west-dupes-in-extremists-strategy-to-gain-power

>>3089123
>I implore you
Don't have a time to waste on this shit theory.

>>3089253
>they are non-humans

FTFY.

>>3088844
>Western

Lol no

Latin in Western Europe Greek in Eastern Europe

>>3089155
>>3089210

>t. retards

>>3089280
The person who wrote that is not really go very deep into the why's of Osama bin Laden.

To give people the TLD Osama bin Laden and his followers of the time viewed that the nature of western influence in the middle east was imperialist in character. That with the wars of the 1960s & 1970s the west had mostly subdued the region. Iran was the first to break free but in the name of national survival turned its back on the rest of the house of Islam by accepting soviet influence during the Iran Iraq war. In his eyes that war ended up becoming a proxy war in between the Western and the Eastern blocks.

His goal was to remove western influence in the middle east. By forcing a conflict with the US the effectiveness of soft power in region would be greatly reduced. After that middle eastern governments would have dis align themselves with the west or face revolutionary uprising.

>>3088844
It honestly looks like it was made based on stereotypes.

>Korea is sinitic
>Spain separated from the Latin American people as if language does not matter
>Europe divided by religion and ignoring the EU
>Non-muslim Africa united

I honestly can't understand

>>3089969
This. Another important reason was to cut the ties betwin Israel and the US.

>>3089998
If Latin America isn't Western, 2hy would Spain be a part of it

>>3090025
I'll explain.

I'm Spanish myself. I see my people uniting to the Latin Americans that share the same language and parts of common culture rather than, say, the French, the English or the German people.

Spain would not leave behind their influence in Latin America just to lick the western big countries' boots.

>>3089969
Osama mostly complained about israel and the ksa being America's toadies but it never seems to become popularly acknowledged, his message always gets diluted to vague "america and the west is at the fault for all turmoil in MENA after the Ottomans" generic bs that brainlets love to slurp up.

>>3090184
I wonder (((why))) is that

>>3089048
Most people think that both of them are idiots, and they are right.

>>3089067
t. redditor

>>3089153
>Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims are both the same.

The difference between different kinds of Sunnis is bigger than the difference between Sunnis and Shias.

>>3089127
They wouldn't fit with the islamic how influential was China to Philippine culture? the street foods are often of chinese origin

Huntington's map isn't too bad but it would be more appropriate to call the areas "shared broad geopolitical worldviews" rather than "civilizations".

>>3090444
really needs a period between islamic and how

>>3088844
Well for starters there's no New Zealand.

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>>3088844
>Latin America not Western
>60% US is Western

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>>3088844
>Japan

Fucking weebs

>>3088844
>Japan is its own group
Why even bother?

>>3090563
Do you hear yourself when you think or is it just a kind of dull buzzing sound?

>>3088848
it's not.

Japan is as sinic as Norway is roman.

>>3090036
I agree with you. I think southern europe and latin america are separate civilization, than the "western" perverts.
When europe is muslim, you'll still have people in mexico or colombia attending mass in latin

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Try to explain to me, without being racist, how Latin America is not Western.

>>3090957

They're niggers.

Alternately, the guy who came up with the schema split "Western Civilization" into three parts so the world seems less unipolar.

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>>3090976
>without being racist
>"They're niggers"

You failed.

>>3090995

Nothing racist about a simple observable fact.

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>>3089969
>That with the wars of the 1960s & 1970s the west had mostly subdued the region.

I think you're quietly omitting the 80's, where Western Civilization teamed up with Islamic Civilization to bring down Orthodox Civilization. Then you quietly omit what's going on right now where Western Civilization teamed up with Islamic Civilization to bring down a different part of Islamic Civilization.

>Iran was the first to break free but in the name of national survival turned its back on the rest of the house of Islam by accepting soviet influence during the Iran Iraq war.

Obviously it was the Russians, oops, sorry -- I meant Orthodox Civilization -- and not the fact that all of the Islamists are Sunni Arabs while almost everyone in Iran is a Shia Persian.

Obviously.

> By forcing a conflict with the US the effectiveness of soft power in region would be greatly reduced. After that middle eastern governments would have dis align themselves with the west or face revolutionary uprising.

The Islamists tried uprisings against their home countries and failed every time. The only way they were going to get anywhere was to try and repeat the Afghanistan model, first in Iraq, and now in Syria, both attempts which have failed due to the interference from those pesky Shia.

This is why CotC is dumb and it makes way more sense to talk about international affairs in terms of national self-interests

>>3088844
Horrible map.

>>3089998
Korean is Sinitic Lite with 50% more North Asian animism and shamanism.

>>3091149
Cotc is a model to describe the world after the fall of the Soviet Union, it is obviously something that wouldn't make sense to apply retroactively when the Soviet Union was still kicking, you know this but you still wanted to make a giant meaningless doo doo post for no reason. you must have felt horribly smug doing it didn't you? look at the big doo doo mess you made in attempt at a dumb "gotcha" you should be ashamed of yourself bad dog bad dog

>>3090463
Honestly this, but then it wouldn't explain why the fuck Taiwan and South Korea aren't "Japanese" and Vietnam in the Buddhist camp or whatever

>>3090923
Yet Philippines is?

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>India being striped with Muslim

The muslim fears the hindu warrior

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>>3089736
Well Pissnoise aren't definitely Sinic that's for fucking sure.

The only ones among them that qualify are the Chinese elite, and even those guys integrated themselves into Flip culture.

>>3088844
No one pointed out that fucking Israel is in the Islamic category yet?
For that matter even Turkey being in the Islamic camp feels wrong, especially before Erdogan's reckless totalitarian turn soured relations with the West in the last 2-3 years. Hell, I hate how the map only recognizes a single independent regional power (in Japan) when so many other countries are much more autonomous and isolated.

>>3092815
Well the opposition to the west has always been a thing in Turkey. Even Ataturk hated the west after WW1.

But I agree that Turkey is not a part of what we consider "islamic civilization" which should be more rightly called - arab civilization. But so is Iran, which has none of the staples of arab islamic stuff like suicide bombings and constant wars.

Persia and Turkey should be seperate civilizations, kind of like Japan.

>>3088844
>islamic goes from Morocco to Indonesia
>but Japan is a special non-sinic snowflake
>and latinos are different enough from the west to be a different group

The first is contradictory with the other two. And, personally, I don't want to be put in any group that contains south america. So the map is shit.

>>3090923
t. weeaboo

>>3089212
Thats literally because the nazis killed catholics

>>3090184
Ironic considering he was from ksa and pretty influential there.

>>3092848
Right, those are what I had in mind when I thought of regional powers.

As an alternative, Turkey could unironically fit in the "Orthodox" civilization: not only are there deep ties thanks to the Greek/Ottoman past, but they also pursue the same type of modernity that Eastern Europeans embraced (basically representing the illiberal half of Western civilization and focusing on their regional and religious specificities.)
Of course they hate each others' guts but isn't the entire point of this theory that they will eventually outgrow their brotherly squabbles and unite in civilizational conflicts? I mean Turkey and Greece can't stand each others but Russia and Ukraine aren't exactly on good terms right now, nevermind the balkans.

>>3090923
Fucking weaboos

>>3088844
Complete bullshit, as the last 2-3 decades have proven.

>>3092734
Hindu girls are cute.
But hindu cunts smell.
I hate my life.

>>3088844
Can someone explain to me why Japan gets its own special identity but Philippines is classified as "Sinic"?

>>3092879
Now that you mention it, Turkey could be orthodox actually. Their sultans thought they were Romans which was a meme here at some point. And the sultan's argument is pretty solid - if old roman empire was pagan, but it continued in Christianity, why can't roman empire continue in islam? So we got shit like Kayser Rum.

In fact I watched some historian saying that Russia and Turkey are both children of the Byzantine Empire - Russia inheriting the soul (culture and religion), and Turkey inheriting the flesh and blood (geography and people). Which is why they constantly invaded each other - ie the soul wants to reunite with the body - the body with the soul.

But yes, I definitely think that Huntington is absolutely wrong, at least when it comes to the "Islamic" civilization. Iran and Turkey are completely distinct.

>>3092815
>>3092848
Don't forget central asia and insular south east asia. Those are not individual countries, but they sure don't belong in the arab blue blob.

>>3092900
>central asia

Lel, I just noticed that Kazakhstan (a muslim turkic country) is in orthodox civilization, wheras Kyrgyzstan (a muslim turkic country with a very similar language and culture) is in the islamic.

Huntington was absolutely retarded

>>3088848
>"Japan, considered a hybrid of Chinese civilization and older Altaic patterns."

What even is "Altaic patterns"?

>>3092912
In the past it got popular to consider japanese and korean to be somehow related to mongolian and turkish.

>>3092904
Russians composed an ethnic plurality in many of the central asian stans when he wrote his book. In fact ethnic Russians had the majority of the political and economic power. As a matter of fact they still might and in any event Kazakhstan is firmly in the Kremlin's pocket in terms of geopolitics.

The only person who is absolutely retarded are kiddies like you ITT who seemingly don't understand nuance and that he created his civilizational lines along geopolitical realities.

How about you read the book.

>>3092904
To be fair, if I had to pick only one, I'd say Kazakhstan is the most Russified of the two.
Of course I would be stupid not to pick both when it's just a matter of degree.

Oh and Azerbaijan which is apparently Islamic despite getting Soviet'd so hard it's now the "least religious Muslim-majority country in the world" and fanatically Russophile to boot (although there seems to be a pro-Turkish faction too.)

>>3092912
A proposed language family that consisted of Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic, Koreanic, Japonic and Ainu languages. Altaic has been largely discredited because the further back you go with these languages, the less shared vocabulary they have (native words, not stuff they borrowed from the Chinese). This means they got their words from interacting with each other instead of having a common ancestor. The group is named after the Altai mountain range in Central Asia.

The map is pretty stupid because according to Huntington Japan is a special snowflake for being Sinic/Altaic but then Korea is also Sinic/Altaic and should get its own "Korean" category but it doesn't.

>>3092941
>Russians composed an ethnic plurality in many of the central asian stans when he wrote his book.

Except, Ruskies were also similarly very powerful in Baltic states (and arguably are still to this day) and yet Huntington puts Baltic states in western civilization? Wrap your head around that.

>>3092941
Except the criticism was that Kyrgyzstan is in virtually the same situation as Kazakhstan and yet put in another camp.

>>3092959
They're super pro-turkish due to their conflict with Armenia

>>3092966
Baltic States got completely absorbed by NATO and the eu?

Seems like another one of his predictions that ultimately panned out huh? :^)

>>3092967
The kyrgz had a pro Russian revolution a few years back, right?

>>3092890
At least the muslims all smell the same when they are dead.

>>3092974
>Baltic States got completely absorbed by NATO and the eu?
Well that's essentially what's happening to Ukraine too.
Oh, I just noticed Greece is not in the Western camp either.

>>3092982
Azerbaijan too. I suspect a lot of anti-Russian leaders get removed by pro-Russian "revolutions."

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You sperges are pissing me off with that shitty Map in the op

Here are the maps he actually uses in his book

>>3092995
There's literally no difference between indian muslims and hindus, specially in the subject of smell.

t. Every honest westener

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>>3093016
That's the same pic as in OP, dumsky

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>>3093016

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>>3093041

>>3088868
faceit whitey your culture is dead. We western now

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Have a preface on the house

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>>3093067

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>>3093069

Anyone want a table of contents and some excerpts by request? I'll post if there is any interest.

>>3093091
you know the book is freely available online right
I understand posting significant excerpts because some people might be too lazy to look up the pages themselves, but you don't need to dump a fucking book, especially if you're taking photos like a technologically illiterate mongoloid instead of cleanly copying the pdf page in one click

>>3093119
>you know the book is freely available online right
No. No I didn't. Thanks for the heads up.

Also I can't upload PDFs into /his/ ya dingus :P

>japan is snowflake
>kazakstan is orthodox
>dozens of cultures that aren't like each other lumped together

how is spain culturally like Finland?
How is Mongolia not considered part of Sinic?
How is Israel culturally like the rest of the Middle East?

>>3088844
It sucks. There no such thing as "african cultural group", neither are is Sinnic, Orthodox or Buddhist culture. Hell ther'es a chunk of Eurasia that should be a cultural group of it's own

Western is a supergroup. Latin American cultures are not really diverse and fit as a subgroup of western culture closely tied with Iberians.

By my count, westerns are:

New World Anglo
Latin American
Anglo-Saxon
Germanic
Scandinavian
Finnic (& Baltic)
Slavic (East Slavic and West Slavic, I haven't seen yugos being much different from poles)
Iberian
Francian
Italian
Greek
Magyar

I could even make an argument for Koreans, culturally they are somewhat westernised.


>Mexico, Brazil, the southern cone and central America having anything in common with each other.

You'd be surprised. "Latino" is not used for no reason at all.

>>3093137
>How is Mongolia not considered part of Sinic?
Mongolia is far from Sinic. They are more like Central Asians.

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>>3093131
No, but you can copy a page to the clipboard with your reader's snapshot tool and upload the pic.

>>3090025
Latin America has too many amerindian and african influences. It's nothing like Spain. Even the US is pretty different from western europe.

>>3093157
Pic to PDF conversion works for non text like maps?

Neat.

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>>3093172
Obviously, it was made for copying the images since the text can already be copied with select tool if it has been OCR'd.

>>3093179
feeling like an old man desu

>>3088844
Change UK and Sweden to Islamic and the map is spot on

>>3093191
>change those to Islamic because they have like 5% muslims
>oh but don't change the US to Latin American or Canada to Sinitic despite half the population being non-European

typical /pol/

>>3090923
Fuck off, retard.

>>3088844
>Jamaica
>Latin America

Since when?

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>>3088844
>USA
>western
Top lole

>>3088844
Italy looks like a latin american shithole, both the people and the country.

You can chop it off Europe and paste it in South America and nobody would notice. In fact it would probably look worse than the rest.

>>3088844
does india really have that many muslims? i thought they all fucked off to pakistan

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>>3088844
>LATIN america
>not western

>>3093780
It's definitely a Hindu majority. Huntington is just a retard.

>>3088844
>anything east of rhine
>western
top lel

>>3089155
They did until the US practically banned the language on the island. Ever since they became independent the language has been recovering, or so I've read.

>>3093780
>>3093985
India has 170 millions muds, it's a significant minority.

You're retarded.

>>3094179
>minority

>>3094179
Yeah and they have 1.03 billion Hindus. Doesn't mean they are half Hindu and half Muslim. What the fuck is your point?

>>3094187
>if it ain't fifty fifty then I will have my little temper tantrum
Are you autistic, or just ignorant about the world? The mudslime population in India has a HUGE influence on indian politics and culture, and just the fact that 170 million mudslimes, who identify with the mudslime world, live in India is enough to geographically include India partially in the mudslime world.

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>>3091001
(you)

>>3093152
Latino is a meme term that should realistically include half the US, half of Canada, the Guyanas and Brazil. It's not used at all in any serious discussion outside, or hell even inside the US.

>>3090923
>Japan is as sinic as Norway is roman
>roman
You mean Western?

>>3091149
It's the Kikes man. I keep warning you about the fucking Kikes.

>>3094197

Yeah I'm going to take the word of some nigger republic about how white it is. Get fucked, antifa.

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>>3088844
>>3088848

>>3089209
i really like these kinds of maps
like
the result of the french election looked like the borders of the angevin empire
and the polish election looked like the partition

>>3094595
this looks like a squid desu

>this thread
lol people are horribly ignorant of just how much demographics effects politics and geopolitical realities

>how can Kazakhstan be considered orthodox? how can India be considered mixed Hindu/muslim?

lol it's like people don't understand basic shit and then turn around and think they can criticize Huntington's thesis

>>3095417
>how can Kazakhstan be considered orthodox?

Orthodox civilization - Kazakhstan
>Islam is the largest religion practiced in Kazakhstan, as 70.2% of the country's population is Muslim according to a 2009 national census.

Islamic civilization - Lebanon
>Islam in Lebanon is followed by 59.5% of the country's total population

Kys you dumb nigger. Huntington's """"thesis"""" makes 0 sense

>>3088844
If Japan is not sinic then Korea is not sinic too.

>B,But Japan is in middle of western and china..!
Fuck off, Japan is not that different from china or korea.

t. Korean

>>3089129
Japan couldn't be global power. They have too little land and people. Yet they are strong economic power, but that's all.

A country without military will never be global power.

>>3095447
Kazakhstan's politics and economy are dominated by Russians. They speak Russian. 70% of the them being secularized, only "nominal" pretend muslims is why they are lumped as an orthodox population, because it reflects the geopolitical realities. Lebanon's muslims are far more "muslim" than Kazakhstan's Muslims.

It makes perfect sense. You're just a brainlet pedantic.

>>3095447
>Islam in Lebanon is followed by 59.5% of the country's total population
That's being charitable because Lebanon was even less Muslim in the late 90s owing to the fertile rates and population movements, I think this figure includes hundreds of thousands of recent refugees.

>>3095546
>a country without a military
>military expenditures in the same ballpark as France or the UK and significantly more personel, tanks and aircrafts, which is actually much less than they could muster based on their wealth and population because of the constitutional clause and their reliance on the US to cover for them
You're right that they largely gave up on force projection but come the fuck on.

>>3094236
Half of the US maybe, Canada? I doubt it.
I'm a latin american and there's a lot of things linking me with mexico or Chile. Latin American governments aided eachother on several occasions and we share a good deal of spanish influence (everybody listens to the same bad music and plays football).
Brazil is not as linked though. But they're not totally alien.

>>3088907

American.
It's not a definition of cultures so much as a subdivision based on political leanings. The Clash of Civilizations was a foreign policy book, not history or anthropology.

So Orthodox countries are labeled as such because they leaned towards Russia in politics.

Tbh, read the original Foreign Policy magazine article. The book is overlong.

>>3095546

In the 1980s it was blowing everyone, including the US, the fuck out on per capital GDP growth. If they had kept that pace up their economy would be closing in on $10 trillion.

It'd be like another China but super advanced.

>>3090923
Good thing china legalism,literature didn't influenced japan, stupid weaboo

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>>3088844
It's a very controversial topic

>>3088844

>Latin America not Western
>Japan not Sinic

It's a meme.

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>>3096907
The pope Miltiades was african you fucking retard.

>>3095788
Yeah but real life isn't a fucking videogame, you can't have Singapore-level GDP per capita for 100 million people

>>3097157
>Latin America not Western
Huntington said the latin American civilization might not exist at all, depending on the evolution or the continent.
>Japan not Sinic
Japan copied China during the heian period, but for the rest of its History it doesn't have much in common with China.

>>3088844
Latin america is western
>99% speaks either portuguese or Spanish
>the most insane brand of catholicism in the world
>spanish and portuguese colonial architecture everywhere
>besides local, american media by far the most consumed
>chile brazil uruguay and brazil half or majority white,
>peru colombia ecuador mexico and venezuela have significant white populations

>>3094236
>It's not used at all in any serious discussion outside, or hell even inside the US.

It's used by us latinos.

let me put this in context: I'm cono sur argie. If I speak with an american, any non iberian euro I will eventually either start arguing with them over some sort of pivotal disagreement or feel them alien in some way or form, understanding is difficult and we identify against each other instead of seeing what we have in common.

This doesn't happen with any other latino, be it mexicans, chileans, brs or venezuelans. The connection is immediately, we just understand each other without a need of figuring each culture out

if you were american you'd see a similar thing with other anglo colonies like australia, ireland or canada,and in fact you are even closer to the brits than we are with spain and portugal.

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>>3097281
>chile brazil uruguay and brazil half or majority white,
>peru colombia ecuador mexico and venezuela have significant white populations

>>3089080
>Shia and Sunni lumped into the same big Islamobloc

Obviously there's a million divisions like this you could make. This is supposed to be broad categories.

>>3097234
Well, hindsight is 20/20. For a short moment of history, Japan's economy seemed like an unstoppable juggernaut destined to just buy the world after failing to conquer it a few decades earlier. Little did people know of the massive bubble just waiting to burst.

Indeed it's pretty much the same impression people get from China today. Now it's them who buy shit up all over the world and all the old powers are afraid of their economic prowess. I have read my fair share of opinion pieces about how China is going to be the next world power taking over from the US. I wager twenty years from now people will laugh about how it all was obvious bullshit because we really should have known China couldn't make it, what with their demographic problems/corrupt political system/forged statistics/what have you.

But at this point in time, right now, it seems kinda plausible China might just continue to expand until they're Number One in town. Same deal with Japan in 80's.

>>3088844
albania does exist
bosnia and kosovo arent orthodox

>>3088844
Retarded, America and Australia is literally the subcontinent of English(or maybe French) and Latin America is just a subcontinent of Spain+Portugal.

And why even Japan stand out, its culture is fucking east asian. Why even India is a stand alone too, Indians fucking invented Buddhism and abandoned it later which makes Buddhism spread through the whole Asia, If religion can be stand out as a category, then almost whole Asia can be marked as Buddhism LeL.

Fucking snowflakes.

>>3097406
I'm pretty sure China will collapse or even go to civil war when they make it to number one, they sacrifice too much on making economical success when they can't keep the position anymore, they have to pay their prize, we should afraid of the collapse of China tho, globalism fucking connected everything, China may drag the whole world to die with her.

>>3097977
How do you think China will collapse? Will the Chinese people finally rise up and topple their government?

>>3097406
The main difference is China has 10 times the population of Japan, even if they fuck up completely and only end up a third as wealthy as Japan (meaning GDP $15k per capita versus $38k), that is if they double their current GDP per capita, they'll overtake the US and the EU as the number one economy. And unlike Japan which had completely caught up to the West and became a mature economy by the time it crashed, China still has a lot of "room to grow" so to speak, simply by switching some more people from farms and sweatshops to high-tech factories or service jobs. They've been investing abroad like crazy for a while too and they're barely starting to see the returns.
There simply aren't the same physical limitations that Japan had. Yeah, China could collapse for any number of reasons, they could get nuked or whatever, but they won't be hitting a natural wall anytime soon. Hell, even if they let the western half of the country stagnate and simply continue developing the coastal regions to Japanese/South Korean/Taiwanese levels, they still have more than enough people in those areas to become a hyperpower.

>>3088844
>China still has a lot of "room to grow" so to speak, simply by switching some more people from farms and sweatshops to high-tech factories or service jobs.

Actually I see it as a down side of China rather than up side, you have no idea how the richness of coastal areas damaged Chinese agriculture and build an enormous gap between the rich and poor, China is lack of food production right now and relying on imported food heavily which is rather dangerous for a massive country like China, China is suffering from lack of farmers. Tech jobs didn't require too many people, it's ok-ish as long as you have top uni and the money. The poor keep abandoning farmland and rush into cities, seek work opportunity in the factory, not to mention the pollution and cancer villages, I will not be surprised China suffer from famine. The government really need to attract their people back to the farm.

>They've been investing abroad like crazy for a while too and they're barely starting to see the returns.

The belt and road really fucked the China international relationships all at once, not only they burn their notes for nothing, they make all the country hate China silently, this need a huge amount of money to keep their mouths shut, I really doubt that China can keep burning their money tho. I see India will have a greater success than China, they take slower steps, they don't spam their money so they could act like big brother.

I only see the money of China keep burning into nothing, their people just escape to other countries, I see the clock ticking.

>>3097646
Except all the Muslim parts of asia

>>3089129
It was the 90s bruh

>>3098911
It's always amused me when south/east asian consider Islam is “meh western”

>>3088848
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>>3097977
>>3098086

ANY DAY NOW

US of A should be along with Latin America.

>>3088844
The more I look the dumber this shit is.

1. Carribbean being entirely Latin American, when English/French speaking black dominated countries like Haiti/Jamaica etc should be either there own group or Western/African

2. India being partly Muslim despite Muslims making up 14% of percentage of India's population, when places that are closer to parity (Ethiopia for example) not being marked as such