When the Romans wrote of the Jewish God, they identified him with Saturn, adding that Saturday was the holiest day to the Jews because it was Saturn's Day. Is this the only quality that caused them to identify their religion with Saturn, rather than Jupiter, the chief sky deity? And if so, why when the Romans adopted Christianity did they identify their own God with attribues of Jupiter rather than Saturn? Were they aware of the etymological puns at work with Deus/Dio/Pater/Iou-pater? And what God if any did the Greeks identify the Hebrew one with?
>>3084819
What is the source on Roman identification of Yahweh and Saturn?
>>3084956
Tacitus
>>3084972
Sanchuniathon.
Eusebius of Caesarea.
The Romans considered Saturday cursed to begin with, or at least wouldn't travel on it
This is an incredibly interesting concept. Anyone have some sources to read?
>>3084819
Saturn was the father of the gods and the oldest god, YHWH is also described in father terms and is the oldest being in all creation so that's probably why the Romans equated them.
>>3084819
My best guess is that for the Greeks Promethius would be closely identified with God. Because according to Greek legends Prometheus created the first humans out of clay and breathed life into them, pandora the human then unleashed evil by opening Pandora's box making humans mortal. Later Zeus decided to flood the world to destroy humans who were seen as corrupt. But a demigod by the name of Deucalion and his wife were spared by building a chest.
>>3086934
How the fuck did they even know about planets back then?
>>3086956
I feel like I have heard that story before somewhere
>>3086968
You can see them with the naked eye; and it would have been easier back then to see the heavens at night since there's less light pollution. You could tell they were different from stars because they had much more irregular paths from day to day; in fact the word "planet" is drawn from "planḗtai", which means a wanderer.
>>3086968
The planets are visible in the night sky with the naked eye as particularly bright stars. However unlike the stars, whose position in the night sky over human lifespan [or even many centuries] is fixed relative to other stars, the planets seemed to move through the sky in various directions.
The word planet means "Wanderer" and indicates this. The reason the ancients paid attention to the night sky is because of scientific, religious, and agricultural reasons. They used it to develop advanced calendars to time the years and seasons, perform divination, and just for the sake of recording it.
>The more you know
>>3086968
Anon...
>>Valerius Maximus famously observes that before 139 BCE, Jews in Rome worshiped Jupiter Sabazius (who was also identified with Dionysus), an identification apparently drawn from the similarity of names (Iao Sabaoth = Iupiter Sabazius; Val. Max. 1.3..3) Moreover, both Plutarch (Quaest. conv. 4.6) and Tacitus (Hist. 5.5.4-5) are aware of the identificatio between the Jewish God and Dionysus and present several arguments for and against it; Tacitus concludes by rejecting it.