Why does /his/ hate Protestantism?

>>3078999
probably because today all you see is the batshit crazy conservative evangelicals
or
the batshit crazy liberal Lutherans and Anglicans

>>3078999
Protestant countries have fallen the farthest in this current era of demoralization, everybody likes kicking them while they are down.

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>>3078999
Don't hate them just want to help them understand so that they can stop this progressive drivel spiral.

>>3078999
1. The official religion of the eternal Anglo, fueling his conquest and bloodshed
2. Easy mode Christianity. "Guys let's just make getting to Heaven easy because I want it to be that way and I dunno maybe God would want me to change the rules lol"

>>3078999
at its conception they had no qualms in siding with the ottomans and to this day they still have a love of Islam for some reason

>>3079035
Looks like that means God favored the Protestants over the Catholics lol
Catholics BTFO

>>3079046
If that is the case where is the Anglo's Empire now? What of the Irish the Protestants so cruelly tormented, now living in their own Nation in peace? Of the grasp the Anglo once had over the world? Gone.
Now the eternal Anglo beds with Muslims, his sons turn brown, his culture wains.

Would you say God is with the Protestants, to turn them into Islamists, to revoke their control?

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>>3079051
>Everyone against Rome is turning into Islam backwater countries or progressive degenerate metropolises.

>>3078999
Because Lutheranism takes too many liberties and Calvinism is way too autistic. Orthodoxy is the true Christian path

>>3079065
Are you Russian?

>>3079071
>>3079071
No I went through all the sects and settled on Eastern Orthodoxy. Reconciled the ideas of tradition and personal spiritual experience nicely. Not to mention Dosto gave me a push in the right direction.

>>3079079
Name some sects you went into deeply.

>>3079092
Well I was born Anglican. Never looked into Catholicism because way too hegemonical and bureaucratic. Luther had crazy unbiblical ideas. Calvinism was appealing because of how it reconciled a lot of philosophical issues with scripture but then I realized it just turned religion into a sterile experience. Then a friend told me that Orthodoxy is probably what I am looking for and I haven't looked back.

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>>3079125
>its the true path because I like it the most

>>3079147
Isn't that what religion is?..

If I were to go based off messages from God then I'd be Mormon, but being Mormon doesn't make sense.
I listened to several lessons by a Mormon Missionary, and throughout them I felt a ease of my chest, a form of ASMR, but tugging out from within my chest in the most gentle way. The Mormons sad was the Father, Son and Holy Spirit reaching out to me and urging me to listen more, it was my connection to God.

But that doesn't make sense, since you can see from the founding of Mormonism it's some weird multi-wife cult founded by a not very good con artist.

Not that anon, by the way.

>>3079051

>cruelly

>>3079147
Well to clarify I think you can find salvation in any of these as long as you are baptized and believe in Jesus. Other than that I think it just comes down to which doctrine is the most edifying. I believe that to be Eastern Orthodoxy

>>3079190
Oh and of course repentence. Yeah I'm not for the OSAS nonsense. So baptism, repentance and enduring belief, the rest is academic.

>>3078999
Because they haven't been around as long so their history hasn't been nearly as interesting. Also because they're heretics

>>3078999
1. Its not contrarian enough/ out there for the majority anglo posters (kind of like how people fall for eastern religions)
2. Being raised in the society if they have had a bad experience with christianity it is most likely with Protestantism
3.Apostolic Christianity offers easy and comforting answers to difficult questions in a way that at first instance seems more reasonable.
4.Protestantism lacks that degree of exotic appeal
5.Protestantism in its worship is far less gratifying to the senses.
6.Protestantism is crazily easy to strawman and has the most bizarre Christians.
7.Dostoevsky is really easy to understand compared to Kierkegaard.

First and foremost, memes and LARPing.

Second, there aren't really that many of them left who haven't either gone liberal, fundagelical, or even worse, fucking charismatics. How many people here have legit even read the Book of Concord, the Westminster Standards, the 39 Articles and BCP, the Three Forms of Unity, or the Articles of Religion?

There just aren't that many genuine Protestants anymore. I mean, they're there, but they don't much put up a fuss, and nobody really cares to focus on them in the media. They're just kind of boring. There is little to nothing exciting for the general public in Confessional Lutheran, Presbyterian/Reformed, Anglican, and Methodist churches.

A lot of the papists on this is site are very autistic. Like that irish guy that lives in the U.K that'll copy and paste the same 2 writings from the church elders for 200 posts

>>3079282
Based Church Fathers

>>3079286

That you Seamus?

>>3079282
I don't know what I am. Apathetic Theist I think?
Apatheist maybe, but I do more strongly believe in a creator to the universe than the possibility of Atheism.

>>3078999
Crazy Southern Baptists or, worse, liberal """"""Christians"""""" who think Churches need a Muslim prayer room.
The three acceptable churches are:
>Orthodox
>Eastern
>Catholic

>>3079282
>>3079286

That fellow is an atheist by his own admission, he just hates protestants

>>3079324
>who think Churches need a Muslim prayer room
This actually happens by the way. In my own city:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-28/beaconsfield-mosque-plans-church-offers-land/8312112

>>3079325

He comes off as a crazed autist.

Many papists also masturbate to brown hordes coming to the U.S and expanding the papist church here, then run away to the suburbs crying about the mexicans they screeched for a few years back.

>>3079257
I read some posts there. Can you just tell me the salient point because I'm not reading all that shit

>>3079341
LARPing. Nothing but shitty LARPing.

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>>3079350
>people asking to be able to force themselves to believe in religion is LARPing

What is Pascal's Wager

>>3079339
There something not right about that lad, I remember he had a break down when I challenged him to outline the axioms he held that led him to value the Church Fathers.

>>3079341
Reading one or two is the same as reading the whole thing, its a collection of conversion stories from 4chan which showcase a whole bunch of anons claiming to have found Christ in Orthodoxy or Catholicism based on their nationalistic and racial desires

>>3078999
It's a slippery slope that made more and more things permissible until it caused the modern self destructive humanist culture we see today.

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>>3079356
Oh I didn't get that because I'm an idiot you see

>>3079356
>Reading one or two is the same as reading the whole thing, its a collection of conversion stories from 4chan which showcase a whole bunch of anons claiming to have found Christ in Orthodoxy or Catholicism based on their nationalistic and racial desires
Isn't that basically what boatloads of native Americans end up doing at some point in their lives? Forcing themselves to reconnect with roots they have had little interest in up to that point?

Is it a response to your culture being faced with possible extinction or what?

>>3079367
It's a response to needing some kind of decoration to suit their political and philosophical ideals so that they fit better with their mental image of what is right.

>>3078999
Larping /pol-deus-vult/-fags

>>3079367
>Is it a response to your culture being faced with possible extinction or what?

Until I see something like that happen irl Im more inclined to view it as just another stage of 4chans contrarianism kind of like how it used to be hyper athiest and left leaning or at least libertarian.

>>3079377
They gravitate towards Orthodox or Catholicism due to "aesthetics" though.

>>3079382

I'm inclined to say that not be a fedora was always what the majority of users were and eventually just got sick of all the fedoras shitting up 4chan and other sites

>>3079389
neither of which are germanic. really made me think

>>3079393
>I'm inclined to say that not be a fedora was always what the majority of users were and eventually just got sick of all the fedoras shitting up 4chan and other sites

I think that might have became a thing once the place went mainstream in the 2010's

>>3079401

I believe otherwise but you could be correct

>>3079400
There's a heavy Catholic presence in Germany though, but expecting consistency from LARPers is a lost cause to begin with.

>>3078999
Because we are terrible.
t. Congregationalist

>>3079408
Yes, but catholicism is at heart a southern european thing. It's basically following a roman religion/sect. Protestantism is what separated northern/western europeans from their historical conquerors and gave them their own christianity, if you will

>>3079252
This is all so true. Going to Church (which I don't do that often) can be a grueling experience because all of the wishy-washy progressive nonsense that I hear sometimes. But I can't bring myself to leave entirely because the UCC is still *my* church and I hate evangelicals even more. Protestantism--us mainliners certainly, but I bet the fundies to a large extent too--has completely lost its way and our decline seems inexorable.

>>3079440

You do realize that mainline protestants are a minority in the us

>>3079438
>It's basically following a roman religion
Takes influence from, it's significantly different from an already vague Greco-Roman Paganism, besides I wouldn't consider France, Poland or Ireland to be southern, you are right in the case of Scandinavia and maybe England(as Anglicanism is a very weird thing).

>>3079451
Oh sure, and our numbers are getting worse. But we were once the plurality, and even more important than that, we were the epitome of American Christianity. I guess in a twisted way we still are.

>>3079327
This is so damn retarded.

>>3078999
It killed and is still actively corrupting Western civilisation.

Protestants are just the military arm of the historical judeo-globalist interests, for they otherwise wouldn't be able to get away with as much shit doing the dirty work all by themselves. The UK and it's successor USA are prime examples.

>>3079462

You have been in the plurality since the 60's

>>3079518

*haven't

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I like classical Lutheranism because it's the least deviated from the Christianity of the Middle Ages and classical antiquity aside besides Anglicanism and was the initial expression of the reformation.

The modern Evangelical Lutheran Church has gone the lesbian bishops pull down crosses for Muslim refugees route so I guess that leaves Moravians and Laestadians.

Lutheran Pietism looks like an interesting movement. It's like a protestant monastic/hermitic asceticism for lay people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pietism

>>3079624
> Christianity of the Middle Ages and classical antiquity

Source on this Orthodoxy still seems to shine out here or at the very least Catholicism

>>3079624

No that's the mainline protestant churches

>>3079029
>complains about progressivism
>it's been only Catholic and Orthodox priests in cahoots with communist regimes throughout history.
>meanwhile in proddieland you have shit like KKK, Hitler, and McCarthyism develop as well as social capitalism.
>>3079486

>>3079649
I meant within Protestantism.
>>3079650
?

>>3079660

In the us churches that do that kind of shit are called mainline churches even though they are only 15% of protestant churches in the U.S

>>3079660
ah I get you

>>3079624
Laestadians are the worst though.

>>3079667
Yeah but they're mostly the largest and original bodies of the churches before conservatives split from them. Most conservative mainliners would seem to be under fundagelical influence as well with creationism, literalism, kjo, millennialism and such but that's also affected all of Christianity in some way.

>>3079687
Really, any reasons? I saw some videos of their services on youtube and it had a typical preacher in suit sermon based service.

>>3079694

Those churches wouldn't be popular if the mainstream churches weren't corrupt.

Christanity is like the cheat sheet to Judiasm, you can be bad and ask for forgiveness and all and your immortal soul is still preserved.

Protestantism is like this but even lazier, save your soul from all your evil actions without ever leaving the home.

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>>3078999
because schismatics decrease the political power of the church

>>3079700
Yeah I guess mainline denominations are losing membership while conservative mainliners grow slightly. The Evangelical Lutheran Church has established Latino and Oromo churches though.

The splits probably took place under the influence of the evangelicalism. Most evangelical Christians would probably join one of the more popular churches like Baptists, Methodists, non-denominational.

>>3079699
>can't drink any alcohol
>can't use contraceptives
>may treat animals as cruelly as you please because they "lack souls"
>rarely marry outside own sect
>discourage academic aspirations

My home town has a lot of different christians and these are the only ones that I've had any major problems with.

>>3079728

Baptists and Methodists were almost always the largest protestant groups here(both stemming from the Anglican church)

And the whole establishing nigger and mexican churches is one of the reasons the mainline churches are failing. Instead of looking inward and fixing their problems they go to places where they can get new converts that convert to get food and won't look into what they actually believe

>>3079741
Wow, who would have thought. I had heard that about alcohol.

>>3079035

>implying Anglicanism is Protestant
>implying it isn't just Catholicism-lite

>>3079741
Most of this could be explained within the sphere of the beliefs held in common by many churches.
>can't drink any alcohol
They can during communion but they aren't they only church to advocate for abstinence.
>can't use contraceptives
I think Catholics are also against this. Many protestant probably are also.
>may treat animals as cruelly as you please because they "lack souls"
I don't know were that might come from but Steven Anderson gave a sermon of animals and why they shouldn't be humanized. I find it hard to believe they torture animals for fun though.
>rarely marry outside own sect
Also not unique to them and is probably a habit of many Christians.
>discourage academic aspirations
This is potentially susceptible to debate.

>>3079035

> Ay, you want into the big heaven? Bribe yer preist goyim, catholicism is pure and moral!

>>3079818
Where can I do this?

>>3079811
In no way do I claim these certain traits are unique for the Laestadians, it's just all a bad combination of practices.
Of course only insane people go out to torture animals, but bad treatment of living creatures is more common and more acceptable than elsewhere.
The marriage thing wouldn't really be a problem if it didn't lead to so much inbreeding.
Keep in mind that this is also my experience of local Laestadians. I don't know how much of it is true for Laestadianism as a whole.

>>3079825
You can't ever since those grouchy reformers ruined the clergy's fun.

>>3079656
>KKK, Hitler, and McCarthyism develop as well as social capitalism.
These are all cancerous/counter-productive as well. Hating commies doesn't necessarily mean you have to align yourselves with mccarthy or be a bloody klansman

You're probably looking at it in a far too america-centric point of view.

>>3079035
It's hard-mode Christianity.

>>3080008
More like retard mode, heresy

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>>3079008
>Protestant countries have fallen the farthest in this current era of demoralization
Protestant countries are the most moral countries on earth.

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>>3080029
That's Catholicism.

>>3079845
why shouldn't I be able to buy indulgences??
people today get them for free with out doing anything! that seems kind of fucked up.

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Protestantism + Capitalism = Success

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>tfw too intelligent to be papist

>>3080039
Guess again, Cletus McSisterfucker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e5lbnBMP2U

prods are literally jewish infiltrators

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>>3080054
Is that so?

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>>3080054
>>3080057
Hmm...

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>>3080074
Meanwhile

>>3080059
>what is controlled opposition
((luther)) the antichrist was a career liar and an agent, as are all protestant cultists

http://age-of-treason.com/2015/03/03/julius-evola-the-british-empire-was-a-creature-of-judaism/

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>>3080078
No need to create controlled opposition when the C*tholics were doing the Jews bidding already. Britain was the most Christian nation to ever exist.

>>3080091
>catholics were doing the jews bidding
By kicking them out en masse?

>Britain was the most christian nation to ever exist
which is why the prods like Cromwell welcomed the Jews and allowed them to marry into the nobility and political scene. Read the link.

Israel today itself exists because of retardestants being eternal cucks to their slavemaster jews, literally giving away the Holy Land that innumerable numbers of Christians died for

>>3080101
Go back to /pol/ retard.

>>3080107
Were you not just playing the same game, claiming "Catholics were doing the jews bidding" Now suddenly that you have been proven wrong, with precise historical examples, you claim to be above it all?

Admit it, you got btfo. You've ran out of whatever shitty anti-Christian propaganda images the JIDF have given you. Go, run off back to your masters, proddyshit vermin

>>3079147
In the end, religion has always bended to regional customs. Yule, voodoo.

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>>3080125
Found the Petersonite platonist

>>3080133
Is your faith not a culmination of your personal experiences? I'd be curious to see your conclusions if you were born on the opposite side of the globe.

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>>3080053
>protesturds going so low so as to stealing memes

>>3080033
Jews voting equally as much UKIP in percent as Catholics and only slightly less than Anglicans.
pol btfo yet again

Because it's anti-history and this is a history board.

>I don't agree with the Catholic Church, let's start out own
>I don't agree with this new church, let's start our own
>I don't agree with this new new church, let's start our own
>I don't agree with this new new new church, let's start our own
It never fucking ends

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Because they started pic related

What church/denomination or whatever you call it is closest to following the Bible word for word? Also saying that, which English version of the Bible is closest to the original (without modifications and manipulations throughout history)?

>>3078999
Because it spawned creationism, evangelicalism, and other cancer.

>>3080587
>What church/denomination or whatever you call it is closest to following the Bible word for word?
Jews, fuck your Old Testament

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>>3080587
KJV'ism

>anally blasted Catholicucks in this thread MAD AS FUCK that their pedo ring isn't loved by all

>>3080631
>Implying Protestants don't fuck kids too
You aren't even good at that either

>>3080635

The papacy is a known pedophile ring with global connections and holds the laws of countries with contempt as they move molesters and child molesters around the world.

>>3082119

*murders and child molesters

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>>3078999
Pr*testantism is just Christianity with bourgeois characteristics

They wish they could be as theologically respectable as Lutherans, but they also realize that it would be harder than just giving their priest some cash for absolution, so they don't convert because that would mean effort a catholic is not willing to make.

>>3082119
https://newrepublic.com/article/142999/silence-lambs-protestants-concealing-catholic-size-sexual-abuse-scandal

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>>3078999
/his/ is full of a bunch of angry little boys

>>3082153

2 wrongs don't make a right.

Your behavior and defense of the papacy's ways are psychically revolting and morally horrid

>>3082171
>“Protestants have responded much worse than the Catholics to this issue,” says Boz Tchividjian, a former child sex-abuse prosecutor who is the grandson of legendary evangelist Billy Graham. “One of the reasons is that, like it or not, the Catholics have been forced, through three decades of lawsuits, to address this issue. We’ve never been forced to deal with it on a Protestant-wide basis.”

>>3082178

>Protestant-wide basis

Can't even begin to describe how stupid that comment is. Again two wrongs don't make a right

>>3082168
Would Protestantism be an example of the virgin religion or the chad spirituality?

>>3078999
Because they're Christians that are generally very loud and pushy about it.

>>3082186
I'm pretty sure the idea is that any particular ideology is "the virgin religion" while syncretic new age bullshit is "the chad spirituality"

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Because this:

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>>3078999
Not all, but the American versions are pure medieval peasant-tier idiocy. Dunno how they manage to go full retard on religion.

>>3079910
I also like that he chose McCarthyism, which was hugely popular with Catholics. Oh, and McCarthy was a Catholic too.

>>3078999
The only good part of religion is all of the weird traditions and popular folklore. Catholicism tossed a lot of that out to begin with, unfortunately, but Protestantism went even further with its "sola scriptura" jazz, which is why I dislike it.

>>3083236

Morons think "flyover" states have nothing but bible thumping protestants in them

>>3082962

Did west germany really have this many Catholics?

What happened to them?

>>3084433
Yes, Bavaria is traditionally very Catholic and the Ruhr/Rhine valley stayed Catholic for reasons I cannot confidently express - I recall it being something like trading connections to France

Ulster Loyalists have done 90% of the damage done to the image of Protestantism.

Fucking apes.

Render to Caesar what is Caesars, and to God what is Gods.

Papists can't grasp this concept and thus want a one world church lead by their spic daddy.