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Wars with clear-cut good and bad sides

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I'll start
>near impossible mode: g*rmans as the good guys
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Probably the US and UK against Japan.

I didn't even know about the cannibalism until a few weeks ago. I've met nazi apologists but very few Japanese apologists.

also us civil war
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>good and bad
How was your first day of preschool, bud?
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>>3073922
wow bro...... do you read nietzsche? damn.....

wow.......... ops mum here reading this post....... wow.............. would you like to have sex
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>>3073916
Niggas gotta eat man, also much like everything in the Pacific War it's overstated for tourism dollars of grief museums
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>>3073926
Japanese cannabilism was forced onto the PoWs. It's forgivable in the field.
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>>3073916
>Japs
Agreed
>Southerners
Disagree

>Southern motives for war: right to own slaves
>Northern motives for war: preservation of the union
Being 2017, it's easy to see it as "south=bad guys" and I agree that owning slaves=bad but that doesn't make the north good guys in the slightest.

I believe that the southern states should legally have been able to voluntarily secede from a political union founded upon the principal of self governance. Plus Lincoln was kinda fascistic.
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getting it out of the way early
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>>3073944
>>3073937
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>>3073916
That's because you probably can't read any Asian languages. There are tons of Japanese apologists who recognize the evils of Western imperialism.
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>>3073902
ww2

which side was good and which side was bad? i'll let you decide ;)
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>>3073937
are you trying to claim the southerners were the good guys?
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>>3073902
Well, first there's the Imjun War
Koreans defending against a (almost) completely uncalled invasion by post-Sengoku Jidai Japan
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Mahdi wars
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Republicans in the Spanish Civil War.
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[spoiler]Germans were at least on the side of the good boys in this one[/spoiler]
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>>3073937
fucking jew of course they have the right to secede it says so in the goddamn constitution dimwit the war was illegal by all accounts and lincoln should have been executed for treason of the highest degree breaking dozens of oaths namely his service to the UNION and all it held true rather than making us a central nation and destroying states sovereignty that is guaranteed by the constitution, lincoln was a pure fascist and should have been brutally tortured for what he did, dont even bring slavery into the matter especially since lincoln was a part of the back to africa movement and hated niggers as well
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>>3074023
Its good to see the bad guys lose every now and then
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>>3074002
No you fucking retard, I explicitly stated that slavery was bad
Just because I think the north was bad doesn't mean I think the south was good
You're like those "there can only be either communism or fascism" /pol/ types
>>3074052
>starting off the post with "fucking jew"
I'm inclined to not read the rest of your post despite us agreeing on everything except the torture/execution part
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>>3074052
>war was illiegal by all accounts
you're right, the South never should have attacked the peaceful north. Peaces of shit should be hung.
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>>3074052
The south started it.
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>>3074079
the north was holding power over the south and forced the confederacy's hand, and as for not being tortured do you remember what his oath was to the border states and upon entering office? not taking slavery away?...and what did he do?...the north was the aggressor in every single way and forced the souths hand to make the first move so they could cry defense
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>>3074002
Are you retarded? He's trying to say there isn't a clear-cut good guy in this war as OP asked.
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>>3074052
>and should have been brutally tortured for what he did
That sounds unconstitutional
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>>3073902
There is no good or bad guys in history. morality is subjective.
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>>3073916
>>3073944
Lmfao yanks butthurt we will never be neutered like g*rmans and see our ancestors as the bad guys.

We control the current government thus the CSA were the good guys of the civil war. Yankees btfo.
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>>3074052
>the absolute state of southern apologists
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>>3074194
I will never apologize for my ancestors treating niggers like the animals they are yank. Infact I'm damn proud of it.
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>>3074188
But the Democrats were the southern party, and they lost...
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>>3074206
Doesn't matter if a Yankee is in the whitehouse. The south controls congress and trump is basically our puppet.
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>>3073990
So edgy.
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>>3074222
So gay.
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>>3073990
Bomber Harris did nothing wrong
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>>3074230
Bomber Harris is a gay Reddit meme
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>>3073916
Most of Japan are apologists.
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>>3074237
Most Japanese don't know anything about it because they never get taught
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>>3074235
I was born "jewish" although I hate "judaism" and all other religions. I am 100% atheist. I believe there is no such thing as "god" and that we like the great late Charles Darwin proved evolved from apes.

Anyway I admire bomber Harris.
It always boiled my blood what the germans did to us the "jews".
But I take solace that at least not 1 and not 2 germans were killed by allied bombings.
"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind".
My favorite quote by this great man.
Rest In Peace, Sir Arthur Harris, 1st Baronet.
I love and admire you.
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Napoleonic wars.
We all know who was the good Guy (tm) and who was the good goy
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>>3074052
Southern states split away before Lincoln even took office, all of them saying it was because of slavery despite Lincoln not even doing shit yet
There is nothing in the constitution that allows states to leave
This would be the equivalent of states today trying to leave the union in December 2016 because Trump won.
You're a moron.
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>>3074101
The north was not holding power over the south, the south had a shit economy and never industrialized, that is a failure on their part
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>>3073926
pacific war tourism money grief museum scam! I knew it!
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>>3074061
>inclined not to read
>reads it anyway

Fuck, I thought that /his/ was the bastion of pseuds on this site, but not to this extent. And yep, >>3074052 is absolutely right, nobody but (((war profiteers))) benefitted from that bloody intrusion upon states' rights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89leuth%C3%A8re_Ir%C3%A9n%C3%A9e_du_Pont#Legacy
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>>3074252
I hate you so much mods please perma ban Shitler, she is a cancer upon this malaysian gluten free peanutbutter makers union message board
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>>3074326
It's not entirely a scam, but they really fucking milk it, especially Changi
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>>3074334
was born "jewish" although I hate "judaism" and all other religions. I am 100% atheist. I believe there is no such thing as "god" and that we like the great late Charles Darwin proved evolved from apes.

Anyway I don't want to have children.
I don't want them to ever know about the holocaust and about the german evilness.
I want to spare them from ever knowing about such things.
God, I hate germans...
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>>3074327
The southeners are a bunch of whiners who think they can just like hot shit when they cant get what they want
Now they got slapped by yanks and all the dixiecucks trying to rationalise leaving the union
Maybe try not being such uneducated christfag hicks and youll not be categorised the same as nigs
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>>3074380
I know this is you Shitler! The more you post the more I agree with what the nazis did
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>>3074395
Do it again Harris.
Do it again !!!!!!!!!!!!!.
I admire Harris.
I take solace he killed some germans.
"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind".
My favorite quote by this great man.
Rest In Peace, Sir Arthur Harris, 1st Baronet.
I love and admire you.
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>>3074399
>>3074252
this but unironically
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>>3074199
See? You're the clear cut reason why the South was the bad guy. Literally dehumanizing monsters.
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>>3074401
The more I listen to this great man the more I love him.
This line is golden :
"There are a lot of people who say that bombing can never win a war. Well, my answer to that is that it has never been tried yet, and we shall see".
Rest In Peace, Sir Arthur Harris, 1st Baronet.
I love and admire you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkLPpO6We-w
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>>3074415

Southerners aren't human, they're mere vindictive creatures, I don't know why you're trying to reason him.
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>>3074441

*reason with.
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>>3074428
>people say that the strategic bombing campaign was an abject failure since they didnt break the will of the huns,didnt stop the germans from quadrupiling their production and cost a lot of airmen lives
>i tell them that the charred corpse of krauts in dresden was victory enough
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>>3074415
>>3074441
George Washington was a Virginia born slave holding Southerner ya dip
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>>3074448
Literally who lmao
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>>3074445
The more I read about this guy the more I love him , here's another quote :
I never engaged in these idiotic pamphlet-dropping exercises. They only served two purposes really -
" they gave the German defences endless practice in getting ready for it, and apart from that they supplied a considerable quantity of toilet paper to the Germans.".
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>>3074448
What of it? I don't worship the founding fathers.
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>>3074209
Trump is literally a Yankee though and he is not your puppet, he is the globalists puppet.
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>>3074448
ok? that doesn't mean the south weren't subhumans who deserve nothing but 10 million Shermans
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>>3073944
>getting it out of the way early
The way threads work is that often the first few posts will get the most exposure and the longest time to accumulate replies. There is no getting it out of the way early and this will do the exact opposite of what is intended.
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The emu war.
>emus just wanted to live freely
>even, cunty Australians wanted to btfo out of them
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>>3074428
>Look at comments
>half of them are 4chin-tards spamming the word cuck
color me surprised, Harris fans are anglo shitposters
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>>3074498
what most people forgot about the emu wars is that while the military failed to kill these damned birds, over 60 thousand bountries were collected in 1934
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>>3074498
How do you fail to kill 20,000 emus even with the assistance of the Artillery Corps?

Shouldn't they have routed the damn birds into killing boxes before delivering a payload or ambushing them? I know weather got them stuck for 2 weeks, but damn.
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>>3074551
Arthur "the Dresden dominator" Harris.
Rest In Peace Sir Arthur Travers Harris, 1st Baronet, GCB, OBE, AFC (13 April 1892 – 5 April 1984), I admire you.
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>>3074551
'The machine-gunners' dreams of point blank fire into serried masses of Emus were soon dissipated. The Emu command had evidently ordered guerrilla tactics, and its unwieldy army soon split up into innumerable small units that made use of the military equipment uneconomic. A crestfallen field force therefore withdrew from the combat area after about a month'
'If we had a military division with the bullet-carrying capacity of these birds it would face any army in the world... They can face machine guns with the invulnerability of tanks. They are like Zulus whom even dum-dum bullets could not stop'
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No really. The Whites would have only reverted Russia to its (failed) pre-revolutionary government and all those peasants and workers who stood up would have been imprisoned and shot. The Reds were objectively the best (or in other words least worse) option available to Russia at the time.
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>>3074445
it wasn't real strategic bombing
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>>3074381
>uneducated christfag hicks

Well, golly gee, so you are saying if you level people's cities like Atlanta, destroy their economy, and ban them from having any semblance of self-government (Voting Rights Act), the dispossessed can't even turn to religion?
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>>3074428
>my answer to that is that it has never been tried yet

Those who don't study history, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Atlanta

Although, desu, it worked out way better for Germans than it did for the South
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Get fucked euroshits

>but muh French

Blow it out your ass
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>>3073925
David Kekner
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>>3073916
>I've met nazi apologists but very few Japanese apologists.

Every single japanese is an apologist, their government policy is apologetic.
They have codified in law ideas like "chinese genetic predisposition to pure pragmatism makes them more likely to steal" and such.
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>>3074052
Calm down, Cletus
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They just wanted their lands back
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>>3075368
How much was the tax then? How much is it now?
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>>3074551
Emus are borderline bulletproof and scatter after the first shot
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>>3075426
Filthy Turks
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>>3075399
Kek we still won nigger
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>>3075399
Too fucking high is the only answer for both questions
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>>3074575
>Finland
>fought against the Soviets
They just declared independence and Lenin granted it, then had their own civil war a bit later.
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>>3073902
Wish there wasn't a sequel to this :(
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>>3075396
How did they do it and how did they lose?
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>>3073902
>Unironically WW2
>Wars of little entente
>Polish-Soviet war

>Turkish, Mongol, Rom colonial etc. conquests
But I guess these do not count, since "strong conquer the weak" was the norm back then

>>3075829
They didn't lose, they just suffered ridicoulous casulties.
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>>3075863
I mean spain
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>near impossible mode: g*rmans as the good guys
>g*rmans

First off, go fuck yourself /his/.
Secondly, the German Campaign of 1813 in the War of the Sixth Coalition was a classic war of liberation from French dominion over Central Europe.
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>The Battle of Lechfeld[2] (10 August 955) was a decisive victory for Otto I the Great, King of East Francia, over the Hungarian harka Bulcsú and the chieftains Lél (Lehel) and Súr. It is often seen as the defining event in the repulsion of the Hungarians' incursions into Western Europe.
>On the field of battle, the German lords raised Otto on their shields in the Germanic manner and proclaimed him emperor. A few years later, on the strength of this, Otto went to Rome and had himself crowned Holy Roman Emperor by Pope John XII.
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>>3076129
>defeating the enlightened saviour if Europe
>good guys
Pick one
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>>3076142
>Napoleon
>enlightened saviour if Europe

choose one
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Winter War
Continuation War
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>>3076129
g*rmans are faggots lmao
>get raped by Romans
WE WUZ FIERCE WARRIORS AND SHIET
>get raped by Franks
R-REALLY
>attack Kingdom of Poland which was a bunch of warring tribes just decades before and gets BTFO'd
40 TIMES A CATCH EH?
>gets rekt by frogs
WE WUZ KAISERS AND SHIET
>gets raped by allies and ruskies
WE WUZ FUHRERS
>gets raped by allies and ruskies
REFUGEES WELCOME
>gets raped by sandniggers

if not for stormfaggot propaganda shilling those fucking weak failures who only win if they zerg rush someone they would be laughing stock like polacks or american education system
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>>3073986
>the evils of western imperialism
And god knows that the japenese hated western imperialism, that's why they aligned with the people who annexed denmark, czhechia, austria, france and norway.
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>>3073944
This.

Too bad the good guys lost.
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>>3074052
>fucking jew of course they have the right to secede it says so in the goddamn constitution
Where?
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>>3074101
>waaaaaah i'm getting outvoted in a democracy dis is upresshiun!!!!!!!
Fuck off
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Second Boer War. Fucking bad guy brits!
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>>3076142
>enlightened saviour
>despot putting family onto foreign thrones
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>>3076142
>enlightened saviour
>peaseant-born manlet with inferiority complex
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>>3076402
>Win presidency with 40% of the vote
>Democracy
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>>3076477
>agree to sign a consitution that establishes a system where the president is able to be brought in with less than a majority of the vote
>this exact thing happens
>TYRANNY
The consitution was agreed to, and the southern states agreed to it, if the south had a problem with a leader elected without a majority then why didn't they say this at the fucking time?
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>>3076543
meant for >>3076388
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>>3074048
but it just devolved into the Irish killing each other and then turning on each other in the Irish civil war a year later and requesting Royal Navy fire support.
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>>3076882
That only happened because De-Valera and his fellow kikes weren't happy with the treaty.

They reckoned that "we're so close!!! if we don't keep fighting we'll never be this close again!!!" and thusly almost destroyed the very core of the rebellion; Ireland as a Nation.

Had Collins lived on and been able to more effectively implement plans without De Valera being a kike in the middle of it, Ireland would likely be a very different entity.

But in regards to the war itself, it was pretty clear cut good vs shit.
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>>3073902
The last conflict between the T*rks and the Byzantines.

Byzantines were the good guys
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>>3073902
The Norman Conquest.
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>>3076149
>killing spaniards is wrong
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>>3076388
>g*rmans are faggots lmao
Go fuck yourself
>get raped by Romans
G-E-R-M-A-N-I-C-S
>get raped by Franks
No Germans at the time, besides a part of the Franks later became a part of the Germans
>attack Kingdom of Poland which was a bunch of warring tribes just decades before and gets BTFO'd
Right, altough the attackers (Teutonic Order) were just a small part of Germany which was even more decentralized than Poland, also the Poles later got btfo by Prussia, Russia and Austria
>gets rekt by frogs
Germans were in the wrong, but France got saved only because of the Entente, see 1871
>gets raped by allies and ruskies
No shit Germany lost fighting against almost the entire world because of the retarded Nazis
>REFUGEES WELCOME
70% of Germans oppose current migration policies

I'd say fuck off to >>>/pol/
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>>3076907
well not really it devolved into a civil war with the Brits as a scapegoat. The black and tans certainly deserve their reputation but turning around and killing fellow Irish police and ultimately each other is frankly not clear cut and far more complicated than good vs evil.
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>>3074334
How do you know its a she? But yeah please ban them and that faggot who spams Ludichris and "Hitler loved Niggers" shit.
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>>3076419
>>3076417
>>3076149

>Implying he wanted any of this
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>>3076408
Say it with me now.

Success. Breeds. Jealously
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>>3074179
Reap what you sow
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>>3076477
>South deliberately sabotages democratic nominee
>2 dems and 1 Whig
>versus a republican they knew nothing about
>immediately drafting secession for when this "Lincoln" (lol he was a federal senator for 1 term?) guy gets in

No one at the time questioned the legality of the election. Secession was taking place under Buchanan.

The South deserved everything.
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>>3076408
>mfw my grandfather fought in the second Boer war

Get fucked Dutchkuks
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>>3077286
haha I meant great grandfather my friends!
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>>3077087
>attack Kingdom of Poland which was a bunch of warring tribes just decades before and gets BTFO'd
>Right, altough the attackers (Teutonic Order) were just a small part of Germany which was even more decentralized than Poland, also the Poles later got btfo by Prussia, Russia and Austria
I'm pretty sure, he meant 10 and 11thC HRE wars against Poland.
>(Teutonic Order) were just a small part of Germany
Small part of what.
>also the Poles later got btfo by Prussia, Russia and Austria
Classic German with their inferiority complex
>Germans got btfo!
>bu... but irrelevant to this discussion Poles got btfo too!
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>>3077642
the intentions of the post I responed to are clear, he's either trolling or just wants to insult my people, and much of his post was factually incorrect, that's what I refuted, I'm aware of the faults and failures in German history, but if you want to have a serious discussion about German history I suggest you start with something else than "g*rmans are faggots lmao"
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>>3074252
>>3074445

>war crimes are okay when it isn't Germans committing them
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Good side, evil side, and an even more evil side.
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>>3074048
Interesting that you posted a war where the good guys lost.
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>>3073902
>Irish War of Independence
Irish were clearly good and just, the British were objectively and wholly child murdering evil with no good intentions or actions whatsoever.
Same goodies and baddies for: 1798, 1803 and the Easter Rising

>American Civil War
South fighting for State and Constitutional Rights while the North fought a violent war of aggression and expansionism, looking to violate the Constitution and empower the Federal Government to the point that all men are slaves instead of blacks.
CSA were heroes.

>First and Second Boer Wars
Boers were clearly good and right, defending their newfound home from Anglo bloodlust. Just as with the Irish, the Anglo acted out of sheer desire to draw innocent's blood and invented concentration camps for their best student Hitler to learn from.

>First Chechen War
Chechens were being discriminated against for being Chechen, and not Muslim. The Russians made them Muslim hundreds of years prior. They had suffered Russian oppression for too long. Russia invaded a city full of Chechen civilians and got justifiably fucked up.

>>3073916
>Never met a Japanese apologist
Funny. Almost every IJA veteran I've seen has become a Buddhist monk and anti-war advocate. You're kinda full of shit.
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>>3077100
Irish police sided with the Black and Tans
Killing each other was a separate war
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>>3075368
The US would have never won without the help of France
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>>3075390
>They have codified in law ideas like "chinese genetic predisposition to pure pragmatism makes them more likely to steal" and such.
Wait what?
Source on this please.
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>>3077286
>Boers
>Dutch
Barely. By that stage they'd been without real contact with the Netherlands for about a century. Also your great grandpa was objectively one of the baddies.
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>>3077842
Irish are drunken subhumans who shoulda been wiped out.
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>>3077961
Celts/Irish have bigger brains, higher on average IQs and earn more per capita than British "people"

The Irish also don't chimp out on country wise scales like the British do when at war (Siege of Badajoz)

Brits are pink inbred niggers and maybe even less.
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>>3077969
>bigger brain = more intelligence
this one has been debunked for a while now

>the irish don't chimp out
>what are the troubles
lol, fuck off potato boy
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>>3073902
Israel (the good guys) v every conflict with the Palestinians and/or the rest of the middle east
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>>3077982
bait
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>>3077842
>south fighting for state and constitutional rights

lol, this is my favorite meme
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>>3077978
Higher IQ + Bigger brain in the same species = more intelligence, yeah

>The Troubles
>IRISH chimp out
Northern Irish aren't Irish, they're British.
Also the Brits had a common tactic of using Northern children as bullet shields
https://twitter.com/crimesofbrits/status/792067209786978305?lang=en
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>>3077978
>>3077988
Also it's fucking funny a small Irish criminal group at one point in history doesn't even come close to the average men in the British military throughout when it comes to chimpyness.
R-R-Rule the W-Wavesss.. n-n-never.. s-s-s-..
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>>3077984
It's objectively true, literally nothing the israelis have ever done approaches the barbarism of their enemies. When Israel is feeling nasty they tear up olive groves, when Palestinians are feeling nasty they bomb hospitals and stab children.
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>>3077988
meanwhile the IRA are genociding the northern irish and indiscriminately carbombing innocent children
nice one
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>>3077997
Ulsters killed more of their own civilians and children than the most bloodthirsty IRA member could have hoped for his group to be capable of killing.
North Irish are just as niggery and barbaric as the British subhumans whose cocks they slurp.

Nice propaganda, though, invalid.
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>>3077995
I agree with everything but the first war, that was a war in which the Israelis effectively stole land. After that it was however clear they would stay and I guess one doesn't want to think about what would have happened had the Arabs won any war after that.
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>>3078005
>Britain
>Colonial empire

>Ireland
>No empire
really gets my neurons firing...
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>>3078010
>Empire
>A sign of blood lust, conquest and evil
Really gets my neurons firing...
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>>3078015
dem irish was good bois dey was just tryin to grow them potatoes just about to get dey lives on track dey dindu nuffin
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>>3078021
dem britons were good bois dey just wanned to bring shivization to de mean ol irish who were unshivilized despite inventing iron, dey didn NEED to feed 'em despi keepen em as unwillan subjects
black an tans dindu nuffin dey was on there way to church wen dey kill that lil girl for speaking gaelic mhmmm dindu nuffin
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>>3078030
despite inventing STEEL*
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>>3078030
>irish are so weak-willed and dependent that they literally can't feed themselves
is ireland a nation of drunken toddlers?
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>>3078036
>Britain fishes Ireland's waters dry
>Makes it so the Irish can basically only grow potatoes on the land with the farm laws they enact
>When the potatoes go bad the British let the Irish starve despite claiming the Irish are British property
>Let millions of children die of starvation literally for shits and giggles
Is Britain a nation of Nazis?
Oh, wait, it is, but the question still stands for you.
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>>3078051
>high IQ
>can somehow fuck up growing potatoes, the easiest crop to cultivate
so the irish are retarded
gotcha
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I can't believe the most obvious example hasn't been posted yet.
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>>3078066
>Fuck up growing potatoes
t. Historically illiterate retard

Read a book and then come back and try to talk to me, you undesirable.
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>>3078076
maybe the irish should have read an almanac or something so they could learn how to properly farm
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>>3076408
Breaker Morant did nothing wrong
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>>3078096
>Refused to be blindfolded
>Gave his cigarette case to his superior after lighting one up
>Yelled "Shoot straight, you bastards! Don't make a mess of it!"
>Defiantly proud of killing a handful of Boers who shot his best friend

most badass death by execution desu

literal movies have been made out of worse people
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>>3074575
makhnovists were the real mvp's of the civil war. i'm not siding with their retarded ancom ideology, but they actually saved the bolsheviks from total disaster and were ultimately betrayed by them in poetic irony.
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>>3077842
i don't think you know what an apologist is
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>>3074052
>the war was illegal
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Rhodesian civil war
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>>3074415
Implying negroes are humans
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>>3074052
Jesus, calm the fuck down kid.
>>>/h/ighschool
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WW2 obviously with the axis powers being the paragon of virtue and justice. It was only started because of a*glo meddling in Poland which forced poor Germany to proactively defend itself.
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/his/ needs to find a fucking pit and climb into it. Holy shit.
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>>3079564
t. (((jew)))
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>>3077712
literally this, what differs the actions and doctrine of Harris from someone like Goehring? Absolutely nothing.
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>>3078067

>Italians
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>>3074048
That's a surprising few dead for a two year long war
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>>3074199
This is the same mindset backwards muslims have.

Southerners are really something.
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>>3073902
Japan vs everyone else during WWII
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Gaza
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>>3075758
USSR funded and gave weapobs to the Reds
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>>3079525
yes the poor old Germans dindu nuffin wrong
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>>3078079
>The Corn Laws were measures enforced in the United Kingdom between 1815 and 1846, which imposed restrictions and tariffs on imported grain. They were designed to keep grain prices high to favour domestic producers, and are considered examples of British mercantilism.[1] The Corn Laws enhanced the profits and political power associated with land ownership. The laws raised food prices and the costs of living for the British public,

>The Corn Laws imposed steep import duties, making it too expensive to import grain from abroad, even when food supplies were short.
>The laws were supported by Conservative landowners and opposed by Whig industrialists and workers. The first two years of the Irish famine of 1845–1852 forced a resolution because of the urgent need for new food supplies.
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>>3078079
>he doesn't know how famine works
I hope this is bait.
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>>3079919
Final general note, every country imports food, even the US of A, autarchy is not possible. For instance Nazi Germany as soon as it got Poland they sent food by trains.
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>>3079927
If every country imports food, where is the food coming from?
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>>3074575
this is one of the least clear-cut wars of all time. It's proto-fascists vs commies. no clear good here.
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>>3079930
There was this article I had about only France being able to provide food for itself, but I can't find it so I can't answer to that right now. Sorry.
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>>3077719
>white movement
>good
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>>3079941
nearly all countries import food, it's simply a question of trade deficits.The Netherlands produces twice what it consumes, but imports food that can't be grown here. if need be however the Netherlands could easily sustain itself agriculturally. Germany has always relied on food imports because it does not produce more then it consumes, neither does the USA.
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>>3079968
So autarky (at least for food) isn't impossible for some states, but would mean that the surplus agricultural produce is wasted and the variety of available food drops, leading to worse quality of life?
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>>3079982
you got it
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>>3079982
This reminds me that France and Italy have been trying to enact laws about food waste for a while, maybe some had success, also reminds me of the "29" depression, when the farmers were advised to diversify what they produced and there was too much of certain products which was pushing the prices down and it was wasted, thrown away, because fuck poor people who would have not even bought anything.
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>>3077842
> First Chechen War
> Chechens were being discriminated against for being Chechen, and not Muslim
Must be the reason Dudaev was a combat general, and Russia's leader of parliament at the time was also Chechen
Oh wait
But - in all fairness - it was military strongman that overthrew local parliament and decided on secession . Only when campaign of ethnic cleansing against russian population went in full swing (for example: Grozny was a city founded by russians and had sizeable russian population) did the federal goverment decide to try and bring order.
And that went horribly wrong, yes. For the federal forces
But it is strange to call the side that actually took maternity wings as hostages, angaged in kidnapping and enslaving and allied with the vilest breed of islamic terorist good.
Not that the other side that engaged in indiscriminate bombing campaigns and civillian shootings was all that good either
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>>3079836
Sure, but it wasn't part of the Russian Civil War.
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