Imagine a world where Carthage won instead of Rome.

It's a good thing it didn't, because then who'd want to go to heaven? It'd be mundane in comparison

>>3068735
So we'd still have skyscrapers and highway overpasses? Good to know.

>>3068735
>made limited trade posts, maybe colonies across the med
>compete with greeks and successor states
>get pushed out of any eastern footholds by persians
>waves of barbarians happen, easily over-run the colonies
>Carthage and greece probably end up sacked by Germans and gauls

>>3068816

>made limited trade posts, maybe colonies across the med
They made cities too. And provided trade routes and connections between different cultures.
The Etruscans could have risen to the power they deserved

>compete with greeks and successor states
They were already doing this in Sicily. They weren't doing bad.

>get pushed out of any eastern footholds by persians
This already happened by the time of Alexander

>waves of barbarians happen, easily over-run the colonies
Would the barbarians migrations still have occurred with the expansion of Rome?

>Carthage and greece probably end up sacked by Germans and gaul

The Gauls didn't mind the Carthaginians. The Germans probably would have bothered going into North Africa

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>>3068735
We can only dream my friend

>>3068850
The Cimbri and Teutoni

>>3068816
>get pushed out of any eastern footholds by persians
they didn't get pushed out by the Persians, they became subjects of the Persians and worked with them just like they did with the Assyrians and Babylonians. when the Persians invaded Greece they used a Phoenician fleet

>>3068863
Assyrians invaded and sacked Tyre

>>3068850
Yes because migrations were caused by central Asian tribes migrating west

>>3068860
But they didn't go into North Africa

>>3068885
And why would they go into North Africa? Without Rome, the probably wouldn't have traveled as far, their infrastructure and policies on the frontier helped shape the migrations.

>Money becomes the only virtue thousands of years before it did in our timeline
>By the 1900's there are no more cultures, everyone is a homogenous mixture of the few socieities that managed to export their cultures through media and consumer goods rather than be taken over
>90% of the population is born into debt, and dies still in debt
>Modern amenities exist, but are of incredibly cheap quality, and only exist to encourage greed and complacency in the poor and middle class.

Sounds horrible.

>>3069164
>All this Roman propaganda

>>3069164
Fuck off Cato

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>>3068735
They would've been crushed by the brave berber warriors sooner or later desu

>>3068735
Ah yes, a world where we sacrifice babies to Molech :)

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>>3069215
>More Roman propaganda

>>3069215
Ah yes, a world where human beings are forced to kill eachother in arenas or to be eaten alive by ferocious beasts for entertainment

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>>3068735
Imagine a world where Persia defeated and conquered Greece.

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imagine a world where Hillary Clinton won

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>>3069288
We could be kissing the stars right now