Hebrews in Ancient Egypt

No. There's really no proof that Hebrews were ever in Egypt in any significant numbers, unless you count the period when Egypt was ruling over the Levant.

>>3066010
Although there is no proof of an Exodus, there is archeological evidence of a Hebrew presence in Egypt, specifically as slaves.

Serabit el-Khadim, an ancient camp in the Sinai has the inscription "O El, save me from these mines." Most likely the first ever words from a Hebrew that was ever written down.

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>>3066010
>Did the Hebrews build Ancient Egypt like the negroes built America?

Yes. Africans need to give Jews reparations.

>>3066094
It could have been any Semitic group, don't you think? There were tone of them around the Egyptians, Hebrews were only a tiny minority in the zone.

>>3066010
Hebrews are the descendents of many despatched Semitic West Asians from diffeerent ancient cities such as Ebla and Ugarit, so it's possible that they held some memories of being in Egypt or under Egypt rule from their ancestors (Hyksos/Amorites, Canaanites, etc)

>>3066094
Wow, interesting!

I had read that they have found a temple to the golden bull api in the Southern part of the Sinai Peninsula, which of course can be connected with the golden calf, another interesting element, the presence of Semitic slaves and underdogs working in the copper mines of the Sinai Peninsula surely holds some connections with the story of Moses and the Hebrews in the bible: golden calf, now a prayer to El to save them from the terrifying labor.

>>3066010
We cracked the code:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serabit_el-Khadim

Thirty incised graffiti in a "Proto-Sinaitic script" shed light on the history of the alphabet.[1] The mines were worked by prisoners of war from southwest Asia who presumably spoke a Northwest Semitic language, such as the Canaanite that was ancestral to Phoenician and Hebrew.

There isn't any proof that Hebrews were systematically enslaved whatsoever. So I'm 87% sure the answer is no.

>>3066662
Well we obviously were the or at least part of our ancestors were, I'm not saying the story is 100% accurate of course but it has some basis on reality

>>3066611
this
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>>3066595
Not sure Hebrews were a defined group back than, probably they were random semitic tribes, nomads, slaves, mercenaries, some Egyptian aristocrats that fall out of favor for some reason etc.
The Israelite identity started to form after the bronze age collapse. Such events always cause new quasi national identities to arise, similar to the rise of many modern European nations after the fall of Rome in the west.

>>3066010
>fable
How dare you deny that six million Jews were enslaved in Egypt?

>>3066094
>>3066651
Wait but christards will tell me I'm wrong when I'm point out that Judaism descends from Canaanite religion and that Yahweh is El. So now that they found Canaanites shitposting about El in some mine this somehow proves that they were Hebrews and the exodus myth is true?

Make up your minds christards!

>>3066731
I'm atheist...

>>3066731
Yahweh is Midianite. It's the prime reason why the Bible speaks of Moses marrying the cushite Midianite Tzippora daughter of high priest Jethro.

It's the introduction of Yahweh and the formation of a new religion and people.

I love this

>>3067314
love what?

>>3066731
El = Allah

>>3066097
>Africans are only kangz when being kangz is bad

>>3066595
More like a proto-Hebrew, but El was what they called God at the time. IsraEL = struggle with God

>>3066731
I'm not even religious, I just think the archeological find was interesting. Almost all the Hebrew names for God descend from Canaanite deities.

>>3066706
>We

There is no evidence of Jewish slaves in Egypt. There were definitely semetic tradesmen. There is no mention of it and the Exodus tale itself is ridiculous. Going by their figures (600,000 men so roughly double to account for families) Egypts population would have at least halved. Don't even get started on the impossible logistics of a group that large traveling the desert for 40 years.

>>3068100
>There is no evidence of Jewish slaves in Egypt
Not him but this is the dumbest shit i've ever heard. The concept of a "Jew" hadn't existed at that point yet. There hadn't even been Israelites, or a split of them between the Jews and Samaritans yet.

>traveling the desert for 40 years
Christians have really ruined the OT. "40" as a number just meant a long time. When they say 40 days and 40 nights it doesn't mean literally 40 days it just means it took a long time. I'm not even Jewish, or religious, but taking that literally is a very new thing.

>>3066731

Even orthodox Jews would tell you that the Hebrew's ancestors were still pagans during Pharonic times. It was Moses who founded Judaism, essentially after the Levites had left Egypt.

>>3066010

Yes, some Canaanites were slaves in Egypt, and Egyptian slaves generally worked in mines, quarries,and on plantations, much like negro slaves. It would be wrong to call these slaves "Jews" since Judaism didn't exist at the time, they were just "Canaanites".

>>3068126
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I'm aware, let's just go with, the people who would be later referred to as the Jews.


>Say 40

Why do you think I meant 40?!?!?!

That still doesn't solve the issue of a fuck ton of people in a desert

>>3066637

Slaves did NOT build temples, houses, or tombs in ancient Egypt. The use of slaves for such "sacred" architecture would be grossly blasphemous, any building intended as a home (for men, gods, or the dead) had to be properly consecrated and was built by free labourers, typically a few expert architects plus a bunch of unemployed farmers (the Nile floods every year, during this season the farmers would be employed as labourers on building projects).

>>3066662
>systematically

There were Canaanite slaves in Egypt, but no the Egyptians didn't enslave all or even most Canaanites, just a handful taken in war.

>Herbrews

No such thing during Pharonic times.

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>>3068146
>Even orthodox Jews would tell you that the Hebrew's ancestors were still pagans during Pharonic times.
Yeah, you see. There's this race of people called christards, professing the religion of christardianity, a "peculiar people", who, when confronted with this little piece of evidence, will insist that, on the contrary

THE HEBREWS WORSHIPPED ONLY THE LAWD AND GEEBUS!

THE PHAROW WANTED TO TAKE AWAY THEIR FREDUMBS AND THEIR KING JAMES BIBELS!

GAWD BLESS ISRUL AND MURICA! ISRUL FIRST, AND MURICA ONLY AS LONG AS IT PROTECTS ISRUL!

HE IS LAWD!
HE IS LAAAAAAAAWD!
HE IS LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...

Such are the arguments and the style of argumentation of those professing the religion of christardianity.

Pic very much related.

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>>3068050
>>3066731
Wait I want the article and educational essays on this topic.

>>3066010
No.

The Hebrews emerged as a distinct kingdom in the Iron Age. Prior to that, they were a class of quasi-nomadic social outcasts known as the "Habiru". Bums, basically.

>>3069581
No, sorry, hobos not bums.