Find a better sword than this

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>>3064687
Zulfikar most likely was an Arabic straight sword considering Muhammad lived in a time centuries before the coming of the Turkics with their curved swords.

>>3064687
Why would you need a gigantic cheese knife? I thought islam forbade cheese.

>>3064687
I seriously doubt the actual zulfikar was like that, considering scimitars were introduced by the turks and early muslim arabic armies used straight swords.

Iberian falcata

>>3064694
>>3064699
n-no

>>3064707
Ali is now angry anon, good fucking job.

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>>3064707
Yes.

dhul fiqar>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other swords>katana

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>>3064687

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>>3064687
>implying the Jian isn't the best sword design ever

>>3065071
I came here to post this

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Best historical sword right here faggets.

>>3064687

WHAT IS THE FUNCTION OF THE DOUBLE POINT?

>>3065145
you can actually catch your enemy's sword/spear with it and throw it away

>>3065145
You can easily identify it.

>>3065081
>try to parry an attack
>the enemy's sword slides down and lops off your hand because there's no guard

>>3065174
Parry with your shield senpai

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>>3065174
Ancient niggas generally weren't big on extensive guards

Largely because >>3065182

>>3065114
>historical
>nazgul

>>3064687
For cutting cheese? I can't this is ideal

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>>3065207

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>>3064687
they both have forked tip but this one is doesn't overdo it

>>3064687
My family has a sword like this, its been a family heirloom for a *long* ass time.

>>3064707
Yeah. Its most likely true. The Parthians/Persians and Romans/Byzantines were using short straight swords and later longer larger ones, this likely influenced through osmosis and military ties with the the Ghassanids and Lakamids into adopting similar weapons for their own military forces.

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>>3065924

>>3065928
idiot.

>>3065710
Enjoy thrusting once and losing a third of the blade

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>>3064687
Well, the zulfikar it's a legendary weapon (of Ali) but this thing you have posted is a very bad wall hanger anon, shame on you.

About best sword, of course, depends of for what you want it. To socialize and kill any bastard than insults you? Ropera/rapier. To kill some one from a horse or maiming a shiter? A sabre, depending of your taste a Polish/hungarian one, a persian shamshir or an Indu pulwar are all exellent.
Do you want to destroy a pike formation or protect some one and you don't have a shield? A montante/Zweihander/Spadone/big ass two handed sword.
If you mean in terms of aesthethics, a Yathaghan or Falcata/makhaira are my prefered.

>>3065145
im sure you can find a convoluted islamic mysticism explanation for it if you asked a sufi/shiite people somewhere but the most common story is how ali swinged his sword so hard during the battle of uhud he split his own sword into two, its just that theres no unique function for the double tipped sword

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zulfiqar

>>3064699
>early muslim arabic armies used straight swords

Didn't they have cavalry? I thought you needed a curved sword to attack infantry from horseback, otherwise your sword bounces back/gets stuck instead of slicing cleanly.

>>3066553
you don't thrust with these sort of swords

>>3065145
WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS USING CAPSLOCK FOR FUCK SAKE

>>3066802
Anon what do you think happened to european cavalry?
They used straight swords too and they didn't suck.

>>3066866
I've got a British ceremonial sword in my house and it looks straight at first glance, but if you line it up next to a ruler there's a clear curve. I assumed that was the case with all cavalry swords - they might *appear* straight superficially, but actually there's a curve. Maybe not as obvious as a scimitar but definitely there.

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>>3064687

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>>3066553
Flips and the other Island SEAsians aren't big in thrusting weapons, really. They're all hack and slash weapons.

Though they did use foreign swords, especially the nobles and elites who delighted in the exotic.

>>3066974
is the kampilan a bad sword? cuz it looks really cool

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>>3065071
This

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>>3066977
Considering it was the most expensive sword carried by the elites? Nope. Though said elites are also fond of using Chinese or Japanese swords when they can acquire them.

It was used like a long cleaver, though you can prolly stabb an unprotected nigga with the tip.

>>3066977
If it can hack thick vegetation it can hack a human just fine, even the shorter klewang was used a lot in Acheh-Dutch wars.

>>3066977
It's a big cleaver than can be used as a two handed sword, quite useful to hack at other unarmored dudes but outside his niche, not so much. The barong and other machete like "swords" tought are very good, you can learn the basics a lot faster than with a sword, choping comes a lot more natural than stabing.

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>>3067058
Let me rephrase that
>Most expensive native sword.

Foreign swords mightve been more expensive. This cunt is from Java, but using foreign swords was also a thing in the Philippines, and adds to the prestige of the elite cunt using it.

>>3065145
Your tripcode is not relevant to your post. Discard it, and stop yelling. You're the most annoying poster on /his/ and you don't even have to be.

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>>3067058
those are the most boring kampilan hilts i have ever saw

this one is better

>>3065901
What's the point of that shape?

>>3067075
why were foreign swords seen as a status symbol when kampilans looked more elaborate >>3067079

>>3064687
This sword is bait.

>>3067075
That's a weird picture, seems like a Chinese trained painter is trying to imitate a Christian codex.

>>3067098
The same reason gold, diamonds, jade or whatever is priced, it's a lot scarce, thus you need more resources to get one, thus you are someone than it's high in the totem pole.
People would pay more for a chanel or even Zara than some no name robe only because status, even when it was probably made in the same sweatshop at more or less the same standards.
Also Iberian, Indian or Japanese blades were of the best quality in they zones, probably much better than the average blacksmith than didn't have the same resource to make good steel.

>>3067140
>Iberian, Indian or Japanese blades were of the best quality in they zones,
how good were filipino swords back in the day compared to other countries?

>>3067148
My knowdlage is very scarce at that anon, I'm sorry, but Spaniards there prefered to use Iberian swords in combat but some returned with the most exotic looking ones to Spain to show them off. But Spaniards were very few there, normally some five thousand. People in Sout east Asia, for what I recall, prefered Indian made sword to anything else, probably thanks to the legendary status of Wootz steel.

>>3065222
kek

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>>3064687
Okay

>>3064687
This to this man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qJBGlChcXU

>>3066802
Actually, in pre-islamic arab armies cavalry was very light, small in numbers and relatively irrelevant in numbers. Even a charge against archers (which were also very shitty in Arabia) caused a good amount of horse casualties. The archetypical bedouin warrior mounting a powerful arabian horse came after.

But persians who were obsessed with having super strong cavalry used straight swords too. It was cultural, nobody liked steppeniggers and their curved swords. They needed to invade the whole middle east to get some respect.

>>3065896
>osmosis

Romans and persians actively armed north arabs and of course they armed them with what they already had.

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>>3065071
It's beautiful.

>>3066947
>>3066802
Depends on the type of cavalry obviously but in the early middle-ages, a good deal of the cavalry heavy people had straight swords, normans, most europeans for that matter and arabs of course.
There's no absolute need for a curved sword on horseback. It's a matter of usage, as always.

And then you get thrusting cavalry swords which obviously were straight.

>>3064699
Damn someone on 4chan who actually knows history.

It always triggers my autism as well when westerners considers curved swords to be arabic. I don't know why they do that.

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>>3066802
>I thought you needed a curved sword to attack infantry from horseback
No.

All kinds of cavalry used straight swords. Romans, Franks, etc. - and of course Arabs too.

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>not having a weapon with a monomolecular edge

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>This kills the Saracen

>>3070441
More like this kills the spaniards and pagan, Charlemagne had quite courteous diplomatic relations with Bagdad, exemplified with the white elephant gift for instance.

>>3070429
shame about the fragility

>>3071195
Scalpels are only used once, aren't they? As long as they aren't using it as a can opener, that shouldn't be an issue. It's for cleanly slicing flesh, there are better tools for harder materials.

How could obsidian be recycled? Can it be melted and reformed, like typical glass?

>>3070441
>>3070958

ol' chuckie magnus never actually used that sword

>>3071235

fuck no doctors reuse scapels and tools until the hospital buys new ones

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>>3064687
>this kills the italian

>>3072156
unique and aesthetic

>>3065204
>what is a joke

>>3064694
Ali used his sword on the quraishis in such a brutal way it split and got a bit bent.but anon is right curved swords only appeared after khalids battles where muslims realised curved swords might be better against heavy byzantine armour,around 30 years after the prophets death