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Racism and the Bible?

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>be me
>Protestant, while rest of the family are Southern Baptists
>grandparents come to visit
>one thing leads to another, and we get on the subject of race
>grandmother says "I don't think the races should mix, their DNA is too different." And "the Bible says so."
>quote Acts 17:26 (KJV of course) and tell her how genetics work
>she's pissed now. "I believe in MY Bible!"
>they'd already been there a few days, so they decided to leave
Who was in the wrong, here?
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You are technically correct, but you're also a dick for taking into account that older people are like children and should be treated as such since they're about to die soon. Let old racist people be racist, they don't have long to live
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>>3057916
>>3057938
I'm not religious, but what's wrong with races not mixing? It just leads to children with complexes about it.
Remember to sage this shit thread, if you reply.
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>>3057938
Everyone in my family is long-lived. I think my great grandfather died in his nineties, and he had smoked and drank for most of his life. I'm probably going to be stuck with them for another two or so decades, so I can have a bit of fun for now.
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>>3057953
They were implying they shouldn't do so at all. As in, it shouldn't be allowed, not just frowned upon.
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>>3057953
It depends on the environment that mixed race kids are in most mixed race kids grow up fine.
If course you shouldn't force people to mix races, or mix races for the sake of rebellion against your parents.
But you shouldn't enforce it on others
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>>3057916
I hope your daughter marries a negro and your genes are flushed down the toilet.
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>>3058025
Don't forget to take your prozac Thomas. Wouldn't want you crying at the computer when people call Kekistan a gay meme.
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>>3058036
Who cares what you think. You´re an evolutinary dead end.
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>>3058050
Looks like I hit the nail on the head.
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>>3058050
Silly, if anything only having children with white people is the actual dead end
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>>3057916
>tell her how genetics work
so you must know about miscegenation then?
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Preserve diversity!

Don't race mix!
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>>3058059
Fuck yeah.

First cousin marriages fucking rock also.
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>>3058059
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It´s all fun and games until you have a frizzy-haired half-retarded mulatto grandson.
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>>3058052
Not really I couldn´t be happier that your genes will disappear in a puddle of diarrhea. Please race mix.
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>>3058064
>>3058066
t. someone whose family tree ends with him wanking it to japanese cartoons
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>>3058072
Not really. Please race-mix.
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>>3058074
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>>3058075
Why are you racist or something? Do it.
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>>3057938
Unlike children old people can vote.
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>>3058083
We can change that
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>>3058085
boomers are awful but so are edgy teens and their goddam communisms
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Why do americans care so much about skin colour? two person fall in love because there is something between them that makes them complete, not because their color dictates them to be.

Yeah sure those what you see in pornography is quite revolting, I mean those white people fucking some blacks is quite a degenerate, but you people must remove that mindset. don't be an ignorant fool like your ancestors did to them, be open minded and open to reason.

it's not about the colour of their skin that makes them a one being, but because their is something visible to them that makes them complete but invincible for us to question.
Yeah some of you hate other races because there is something about them that you don't have or something that makes you hate them.
but we can't deny in the very beginning of the world's civilization,that there is someone who do fall in love despite their difference,
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>>3058091
Fuck off renegade Xer.
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>>3058107
>race is only skin deep
>nice meme
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>>3058127
>That graph only applies to the black people,

And I'm also aware it's not just by their color, Nothing you say have refuted what I just have said. you're still an ignorant fool, If the only thing you can deny the truth is some random IQ graph that makes other stupider is like saying a specific race is much better than the rest. it's like you're saying a man can be an island of himself

Srinivasa Ramanujan if you know this name, you can assured this is one of the many example a dark coloured race can be as high as your silly graph says. you parochial fool.
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>>3058107

i have this problem where im usually interesting to people for like a day to a week but then they lose interest in me and hardly ever talk to me again. I'm not sure what caused this if I talk too much or something similar to it.

The only person who ever seemed really interested in me over a multi-year period beyond my family was a jewish person and a nerd-jock
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>>3058146
Actually it does refute what you said, because you said that Americans only care about skin color. I showed you that race is not just about skin color. Surely there are intelligent brown races, Indians being one. Which only further proves that race is not just about skin color. The rest of your posts are opinions and insults, and therefore don´t need refutation.
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>>3057916
>Who was in the wrong, here?
You

Because you're a cuck and because you're ignorant
Deuteronomy 7:1-3
>When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

Ezra 9:1-2
>Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites. For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this trespass.
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>>3058168
>Americans only care about skin color.

well yeah I've said that because that's where racism and slavery started anyways. discrimination and oppression, even after it's abolition, the stain of it still persist to this day.
there is no solution even what Martin luther or anyone else did, it can't be removed, because that's what it will always be.

your graph dictates that this negroes are stupid because back to your slavery which is in america, they're oppressed of any freedom or whatsoever, lack of education, care and other stuff a human should have is out of the mind of the so called their "masters"

and if you're gonna go further to the point when
"well they come africa then that means they're natural stupid race"

well that is true 100% because there is no external force to make them, they're one of the most colonized continent and yet, people have no shit about them, but only in their resources, That's the reason they're still stupid( except from the north)

you see every roads lead down to you america.
you can't refute it.
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>>3058193
>your graph dictates that this negroes are stupid because back to your slavery
Actually pure African negroes are even stupider. African Americans are slightly more intelligent because of white admixture and white culture.

>blahblahblah evil whitey
TL;DR.
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Memes aside, God actually punishes Moses's siblings for hating his IR marriage.
“Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married, for he had married a Cushite woman” (Num. 12:1)
When the cloud removed from over the tent, behold, Miriam was leprous, like snow” (Num. 12:10)
Cush was in southern Ethiopia, and is basically shorthand in the OT for "really black", and the leprosy thing was basically "you picked on the poor woman and like being whiter than her?
Oh, i'll make you white, alright"


Not that you can't give a ton of cultural and medical reasons race-mixing is likely a bad idea in the vast majority of cases, but it's not wrong, per se.
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Why is a person of 1/8th African ancestry black? Did the other 7/8ths of their genetic code vanish into the aether? Why is everyone from Africa "black" despite the fact different regions in Africa have less genetic similarity with each other than they do with outside groups?
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>>3058217
>Not that you can't give a ton of cultural and medical reasons race-mixing is likely a bad idea in the vast majority of cases

Vast majority of cases such as?
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>>3058014
I like you.
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>>3058170
>yfw all of these nations would just be classified as "Middle Eastern in today's society
By that logic, that means any distinct group of Europeans are a race unto themselves (French, German, Romanian, British, Irish, Scottish, etc) anf shouldn't mix. It means "white" isn't a race, and my entire family would be composed of mutts/mongrels.
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>>3058014
This guy gets it.
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>>3058209
>blahblahblah evil whitey

He didn't say anything that isn't already widely accepted. Just because it's not the redpill garbage you usually read doesn't make it not true.

Go to a different board, you don't give a shit about history that doesn't fit your narrative.
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>>3057916
>genetics
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreeding_depression
inb4 hybrid vigor
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergene
hapa communities online are convinced that it leads to mental illness, particularly schizophrenia
I'm unaware of any research that currently backs this up though
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>>3057916
Don't race mix. Plain and simple. Whether her methodology is flawed or not, her conclusion is spot on.
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>>3059476
Should we use the blood of different races in transfusions? Should we just use white blood on a white man, or black blood on a black man?
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>>3059476
Race mixing isn't the problem, mixing with shitty cultures is. Don't mix with shitty cultures and you won't contract any of their problems. Ethnic inmarriage has produced genetic defects and chromosomal deficiencies everywhere it has been practiced. Just look at any endogamous society i.e. Jews, Samaritans, Amazon tribes, Chinks, Japs, rural honkies, inbred castes and aristocracies etc.
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>>3059476
>incest is good
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>>3058243
>Why is a person of 1/8th African ancestry black?
One drop rule

>Did the other 7/8ths of their genetic code vanish into the aether?
Race is based on phenotype

>Why is everyone from Africa "black" despite the fact different regions in Africa have less genetic similarity with each other than they do with outside groups?
Because that's how white people defined race.
Borders between different races were socially construct because human diversity is contiguous
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>>3059595
Maybe you weren't aware, but blood type generally varies along racial lines. RH- types, for example.

Beyond that, there are real epigenetic effects when blood is transferred between two people.
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>>3058243
>is everyone from Africa "black"

No, you have South Africans, North Africans, and some Ethiopians and Somalis.

>different regions in Africa have less genetic similarity with each other than they do with outside groups

Which regions? You're being incredibly vague.

>>3059733
>that's how white people defined race
>different races were socially construct because human diversity is contiguous
dummy, no objective differences between a Tasmanian aboriginal and a Mongolian huh?
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>>3059768
>dummy, no objective differences between a Tasmanian aboriginal and a Mongolian huh?
He said human diversity is contiguous, not nonexistent. Someone from Mali is somewhat similar in DNA and physical traits to someone from Morocco, who is similar to peoples in Egypt who are similar to people in Syria. The issue with race is that a line needs to be drawn somewhere and that line is invariably in an arbitrary location.
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>>3057938
Fuck that. Old people are adults and should be treated as such. I do put up with an old person's bullshit in the same way I don't put up with any other person's bullshit. They don't deserve to be coddled. When I'm old I don't want to be coddled and treated like a baby either.
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>>3059854
They hate being treated like children too which makes them irritate you more.
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>>3059828
>diversity is contiguous
this same logic applies to all mammals
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>>3059828
how is this any different than categorizing colors as red, orange, etc when there is no firm line between them?
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>>3059907
>there is no firm line between white and black, or red/yellow/blue

go back to middleschool art class, do you know what primary colors are?
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>>3059907
Because classifying colours generally doesn't effect law and society. Nobody says you can't wear orange and blue at the same time, and you won't get disowned by your parents for wearing black instead of dark grey.
>>3059895
Except the differences can be objectively noted, primarily in how a human can't fuck a gorilla and create fertile offspring while a bushman and a swede can.
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>>3059916
>similar in DNA and physical traits
>a human can't fuck a gorilla

these things are not alike, humans share a great deal of genetics and physical traits with other mammals.
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>>3059947
Different races are explicitly the same species, regardless of any genetic differences. The gap between an African and a European is obviously miles closer than that of an ape and a human being.
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>>3060449
This is true.
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>>3058170
That applies to God's chosen people ONLY. If you're not a Jew, then you might aswell die for all Deuteronomy cares. Southern Baptists also don't give a rats ass about the Old Testement.
Also this.
>>3059048
Try again.
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I assumed Protestant and southern Baptist was the same shit
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>>3059439
humans have neither hybrid vigor nor outbreeding depression
>hapa communities online are convinced that it leads to mental illness, particularly schizophrenia
>hapa communities online
!
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>>3057916
You are both wrong. Science is horseshit.
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>>3058127
If this is about IQ, just get to the point.

Just dont date anybody with sub 120 IQ and be done with it.
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>>3061969
The problem is that society is not made up of only you. If too many people race mix it can lower the quality of the society you live in (see: Brazil).
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>>3061956
Some baptists are extremely adamant that they represent a tradition that has existed since the early church that was never part of catholicism to begin with, and so, they arent "protestant" because they, never being part of catholicsm, never protested against the church.
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>>3061994
brazil is proof culture is more important than race
brazil is at most 20% black genetically
that';s nothing
blacks in america are 20% white

you are a retard
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>>3062049
>brazil is proof culture is more important than race
>brazil is at most 20% black genetically
Lol wut. Citation desperately needed.
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>>3057916

Them, obviously

>>3057938

It isn't right to treat the elderly like children, not even the senile. They deserve to die with respect, so if my grandparents say something stupid I take them seriously and politely correct them. They deserve it.

>tfw granddad is rly into US central banking conspiracies

It's fun to shoot shit with old people. They argue better than a lot of adults imo.
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>>3061994
That's why every adult with sub 100 IQ needs to be castrated.

Not just Jamal but also Cletus no matter how blue blonde haired and blue eyed he is
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>>3062065
...which in practice will lead to 90% of blacks being castrated. Over several generations, to account for regression to the mean.

That's pretty extreme.
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>>3062070

I'm just preparing the world for our successors

The AI shall inherit the Earth. Humans join them in transhumanist utopia
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>>3062050
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-race_Brazilian

>A 2015 autosomal genetic study, which also analysed data of 25 studies of 38 different Brazilian populations concluded that: European ancestry accounts for 62% of the heritage of the population, followed by the African (21%) and the Native American (17%).

this is also mostly obvious since 40-50% are white, others are race-mixed with little to a lot of white ancestry
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>>3062082
Disconcerting, what even 20% of black blood can do to your society.
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>>3061962
why do hapas online have crippling autism?
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>>3062095
>still trying to save face
20% is nothing, brazil's problem isn't racial even by racist standards
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>>3062113
>20% is nothing
Well, it evidently is quite a lot, judging by the results.
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>>3062013
Revisionism
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Honestly the bible has plans for race mixing
Just paint the black person white before sex and a white baby pops out
>I will pass through all thy flock to day, removing from thence all the speckled and spotted cattle, and all the brown cattle among the sheep, and the spotted and speckled among the goats: and of such shall be my hire. 33So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that shall be counted stolen with me. 34And Laban said, Behold, I would it might be according to thy word. 35And he removed that day the he goats that were ringstraked and spotted, and all the she goats that were speckled and spotted, and every one that had some white in it, and all the brown among the sheep, and gave them into the hand of his sons. 36And he set three days' journey betwixt himself and Jacob: and Jacob fed the rest of Laban's flocks.
37And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and chesnut tree; and pilled white strakes in them, and made the white appear which was in the rods. 38And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink. 39And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted. 40And Jacob did separate the lambs, and set the faces of the flocks toward the ringstraked, and all the brown in the flock of Laban; and he put his own flocks by themselves, and put them not unto Laban's cattle. 41And it came to pass, whensoever the stronger cattle did conceive, that Jacob laid the rods before the eyes of the cattle in the gutters, that they might conceive among the rods.
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>>3057916
Stop upsetting your grandmother
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The problem with all this is none of you have proved race is an actual biological concept beyond the cultural one and the superficial features, when you actually grab a genetic textbook and discover there's more genetic diversity between a single "race" than between different "races" you will be surprised.
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>>3057916
I never got the "mixed race kids r confused" stuff. I'm Iranian and Chinese yet nobody has treated me badly because of it, I'm simply both. Besides, I'm more than my race: I'm me.
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>>3063159

You aren't both though (well in the general image of any of the countries people). The Persians will see your epicanthic folds and the Chinese your obvious facial differences. If you were in any schoolground of those countries the kids at the playground would point at you and tell the differences in the first steps of recognition and memory. While people may not treat you like shit, you can be certain they will be able to tell you're "you".

Your origin results in your body which is tightly attached to your conscience, rendering you unable to escape from it because it is you.
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>>3063073
She brought it on herself.
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>>3057938
What about young racists?
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>>3058061
Are you a muslim?

>It is estimated that at least 55% of British Pakistanis are married to first cousins
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4442010.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/children/11723308/First-cousin-marriages-in-Pakistani-communities-leading-to-appalling-disabilities-among-children.html

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Marriage_in_Islam
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>>3057953
>[race mixing] just leads to children with complexes about it.
Maybe that wouldn't happen if you racist assholes didn't make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Ever think of that, shithead?
>Race mixing is bad because I'll treat you like shit for something outside of your control
It's heckler's veto: the anti-miscegination argument.
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>>3057916
That pic reminds me of this
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>>3057970
>me on the 7th branch on the left

I even have a qt German American Christian gf I plan on marrying, such is life in America...
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>>3057953
What's wrong with it is that races are entire groups of individuals, and they won't comply with the idea of not mixing unless this is forced on them. If there's any reproduction between the two groups, there will be mixing, and to prevent this requires the threat of force, which is why there's an unbreakable link between racism and violence.
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>>3058025
>>3058050
>>3058066
How do you think genes work, anon?
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>>3064169
Chinese + Iranian = Me

Blue eyed pseudo-nigger + Pale skinned dark eyed farmer + Steppe horseman = European

Southeast Asian tribal + Siberian hunter = Japanese

Not rocket science. Chinese see me more as Chinese, Iranians see me more as Iranian.
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>>3065908
/pol/ literally thinks that children don't inherit 50% of their parents DNA

They think it just magically disappears into thin air
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>>3065931
No, they value phenotype over genotype, without realizing what that would mean for them.
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I just don't like black people. On the other hand, I don't really care about race mixing as long as I'm not the one doing it.
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>>3058107
Thank you for clearing that up Rabbi Geldwasser. Perhaps you could repeat the entire sermon this coming Saturday in front of your whole congregation
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>>3063137
True, but actually applying ethnicity instead of race doesn't make the problem smaller, it makers it bigger, but also less obvious to people. But ultimately I would say it is fail of white identitarians, many of which are Murricans. Europeans are obviously not the same. Scandinavian countries used to even welcome easier Slavs, because of their higher genetic diversity to prevent retardness in the population. Now I guess they are using other methods, arguably a lot worse. If they identitarians were arguing more on ethnicity and nationality level they couldn't be called racists, because they wouldn't want other Europeans entering each other's countries freely as well.
>there's more genetic diversity between a single "race" than between different "races"
But this is also misunderstood. If we take all of Europe's whites for examples, yes the genetic diversity between them will be big. But this doesn't mean they are not going to be even more different genetically than blacks or Asians. There is a difference between "genetic diversity" and "genetic differences". It doesn't suddenly make one European ethnicity closer genetically to some African than some European one.
Ultimately if the population is small and not genetically diverse (as slavs usually are compared to some other Europeans) then you can start having some Muslim level of marrying to your first cousin problems without even being much aware of it. On the other hand "race mixing" leads to problems as well. And very obvious ugliness. There is nothing surprising about two very different genetic lines having compatibility problems.
And to make the obligatory disclaimer, I am not arguing for the enactment of any laws or such that enforce anyone into anything. But propagating is not much better. I am not a fan of the "Eurasian-Negroid" shit that a lot of elites have been believing and trying to achieve for the last 100 years without telling the pleb. Not a fan of everyone looking and thinking the same.
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