Redpill me on the Cultural Revolution

You can't fucking quantify shit like that, nerd.

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>>3047895

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like none of you have fantasized about holding life or death over your own parents

>>3047895
It turned the nation into a giant cult based around Mao. Anything with a hint of being foreign was destroyed.

>>3047895
100%

Chinese people determine Chinese culture

Beheading gays and stoning women and burning witches isn't Dutch culture anymore because Dutch culture changed.

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>>3047909
Alright fine, just tell me how different modern China would be in a different timeline.
>>3047913
>no CR
>pic related

>>3047957
>Alright fine, just tell me how different modern China would be in a different timeline.

It would be like Taiwan, Macau or Hong Kong.

>>3047909
/thread

Not all chinese culture was good. The communists managed to put a stop to foot binding for example, then they went and killed tons of sparrows for w/e reason.

p much a clusterfuck period for china

>>3047962
Taiwan is essentially the richest people ditching the poorest on Mainland, so I'm not convinced.
Macau and Hong Kong wouldn't exist as they are if the rest of mainland wasn't as poor. It's not possible the entirety of China could have followed the same development.

>>3047957
That's India, anon.

>>3047962
None of those are Chinese though =^]

What an ironic example

>>3047962
>the people who are most westernized and claim to not be Chinese represent Chinese culture

Hmmm makes me think

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>>3047895

God fucking dammit I hate commies so much. They ruined by Russia and China forever, the two largest countries.

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>>3048055
but it made Korea better

>>3048055
>ruined

Pre-commie China and Russia were total shitholes as well

>>3047913
Rural peasant habits don't die out instantly

>>3048055
>ruined
Uh, no, Sweetie. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QsRDpsItq0

>>3048066
This is unironically true relative to pre-jap Korea

North Korea today represents the first time Korea has ever been truly independent.

>>3048002
Interesting fact. Land reforms were easy to implement because the rich and rulers of Taiwan had no Land so it was much easier to enact.

>>3048069

>Pre-commie China and Russia were total shitholes as well

They were getting better. They could have peacefully reformed over time if commies hadn't ruined everything. We could be exploring the galaxy right now, but NOOOOOOOO.

>>3048070
You are correct.

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/oops-pooped-15-photos/

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>>3048089
>They were getting better.
>pre-1949 China

>>3048089
>They were getting better.
They weren't?

The Chinese empire collapsed and the weak republic fostered warlordism. The KMT that took over managed a nominal unification by accomodating warlordshits.

China is only getting better now.

>>3048034
And they didn't have a CR, but suffer from similar things the CR is often blamed for.

>>3048103

>China is only getting better now.

Because they've finally started to embrace capitalism. Communism sent them backwards at least 50 years.

>>3048089
Dude, China 1912-1949 was apocalyptic-tier fucked up.

Over 100 million violent deaths. Average lifespan, 35. Remember that this was back when China only had 350 million people (1930).

>>3048111
*State capitalism.

Big difference.

>>3048111
Technically, no.

Despite Mao, China grew 6.5% annually 1949-1976. They actually caught up to India per capita in that time

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>>3048089
>They were getting better.

>ask a history board about an event where huge historical records and monuments were destroyed
>most are ok with it as long as it is done in the name of communism

Goes to show most historians don't really care about history, only advancement of revolutionary communism.

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>>3048153
>Huge number.
>We still have a complete picture of Pre-communist Chinese history considering Imperial period book culture meant there was no "master copy" or some shit. Might as well destroy the bible or something.
>Only tiny ass village temples were destroyed and even then that was hard to do because the average Chink peasant of the time was a superstitious fuck while the major sites are still with us today. Heck they were even protected by the PLA from overenthusiastic Red Guards.

>most are ok with it as long as it is done in the name of communism
Or maybe we have a better idea of Chinese history than you do? The real tragedy of the CR was all those people who were fucking imprisoned. If we're talking in the cultural sense, then the traditional arts suffered because the RG humiliated them and called them backward cunts. Even then, nowadays there's still a fucking revival, if this guy is any indication.

>>3048153
>huge number

Umm less than .001% were destroyed.
People don't just stop writing because of chaos.

>>3048125
is state capitalism a good thing now?

>>3048249
Good and bad is relative

>>3048249
Yes ever since the unthinking supporters of capitalism started losing jobs thanks to the free market and globalism, lol.

Suddenly protectionism is in.

>>3048079
And what an embarrassing shitshow it is.

>>3047895
>what percentage remained afterwards?
Too much. It failed. Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39j4ViRxcS8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Elegy

>>3048079

Uh, you know they kowtow to the PRC right?

>>3047962
All of those are worthless cosmopolitans influenced by US greedy hypercapitalism, so no.

>>3047895
Chinese culture was hardly at 100% before the CR since it's quite conveniently forgotten that both Sun Yat-sen and Chaing Kaishek had their own mini attempts at something similar, like a bastard mix of civic nationalism and protestant modernism (new life movement etc), not to mention the massive damage caused by their Taiping forefathers (literally in the case of SYS, and otherwise figuratively) some decades earlier.

>>3049201
one need only read the impassioned screeds by Ku Hung-ming to be convinced of this, by the way.

Cultural revolution is a huge meme. Yes a lot of culture was lost, but the Social structure is still clannish with value based on connections and deference to authority. All things lost, would have been lost in the transition to capitalism anyways

>>3048521
You've obviously never read any foreign policy journals

>>3048040
>implying
You can take the chink out of China but you can't take the China outta the Chink
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Taiwan_food_scandal

tl;dr CR just accelerated the development to a modernized society, just like how it is in Taiwan

>>3049218
>All things lost, would have been lost in the transition to capitalism anyways
not necessarily: look at Taiwan; temples of all kinds all over the place, pride in traditional arts and culture (beyond the meme-tier shit of the mainland's >muh 5 million year old culture)

>>3049234
You have a vastly rose tinted view of Taiwan. They're still chinks obsessed with social status and wealth, and engage in unethical practices to protect their bottom line

>>3049245
I don't; I live there. Chinamen, yes, but Chinamen with a modicum of respect for traditional culture, even if the majority of the younger generations are americanised to whatever degree.

Unethical may as well be synonymous with Asian, regardless of the prevailing political system.

>>3048002
Taiwan was also strongly influenced by Japanese culture, having been a Japanese colony since the first sino-japanese war.

>>3048136

Fuck why is China so cool?

>>3049314
They're the oldest civilization. They had a longer time to accumulate coolness.

>>3049314
Human player of the World

>>3049323
if by coolness, you mean shallow indifference to the suffering of their fellows, dumb animals and the environment, then yes, they've had plenty of time to accumulate that kind of casual jaded indifference.
Even Confucius could fuck all about those goddamned Heathen Chinee, and heaven knows he tried.

>>3049234
Those are all plastics. Most of them aren't even the real Formosan culture, for fuck's sake.

>>3049394
wtf does Formosan even mean? Austronesian aboriginal shit? Cod Ming-era resistancia narrative?
Come on; we know the score.

>>3047895
Cultural Revolution is a failure. Do you know what failure means?

It failed to uphold power and reputation of Mao, it failed to raise the living standards and renew social values of common peasants, it also failed to destroy Chinese culture.

>>3048153
>Implying the cultural revolution had anything to do with communism

It was just mao chimping out because he was being sidelined by the ccp after his shitty policies fucked up the country, so he used his personal influence to call the peasants to attack he political enemies

>>3049490
oh you and your tired justifications. please suicide yourself already.

>>3049492
>Wow it's nothing

Great argument

>>3049496
There's no arguing with reprobates. Bullets and fists will do just fine though.

>>3049499
I bet that autistic post sounded cooler in your head

>>3048153
>Defending a savage 'culture' that bound their women's feet into a fucking deformed disability
Yeah, no. You got redpilled here, you stupid white liberal, and then you got salty over it.

>>3049234
Fuck off. The only claim to Chinese culture outside of China can only come from Hong Kong

>>3049511
Hong Kong? You've got to be shitposting.

>>3049523
>shitty Taiwanese and lengthy dramas and talk shows vs Hong Kong's kino industry

>>3049537
detach yourself from the tv screen, you imbecile, and get outside, you might actually learn something.
>Swede detected

>>3049547
It is still related to culture old man. And fuck off I am Singaporean

>>3049557
right. related to modern culture. we are talking about traditional culture in this thread, or has that escaped you?

>>3048955
>Implying the PRC isn't

>>3049560
OP talked about Chinese culture.

>>3048955
>Hong Kong and Macau are US influenced.

>>3049813
ahem, the UK and Portugal, anon...

>>3049813
Macau is the definition of crony capitalism while Hong Kong is hypercapitalism + police state.

>>3047895
If you want a decent take on the cultural revolution, Democratic Socialist 01 uploaded a bretty decent video on the subject not too long ago.

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>>3049314
Coz swords and modern guns are an awesome mix.