Mayan Appreciation Thread

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>>3045130

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>>3045131

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Palenque

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>>3045139

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Tikal

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>>3045146

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Uxmal

>tfw climbed the big pyramid at Chichen Itza the year before they closed it off to the public
Feels good man, shame people kept vandalizing it like the assholes they are.

I always wonder how the people back in the days felt when they stood in front of such a building. I mean we're used to high buildings and huge monuments through TV, pictures or because it's so easy to travel the world. But still we're amazed and baffled when we stand in front of such a building.
Now imagine a person that was in a fairly small village in the jungle and didn't know anything else until they had the chance to travel a few days (a few hours car ride for us now) to a big city / temple and saw such amazing buildings for the first time.

I need a time machine just to look at all those sites when they were at their peak...

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>>3045152
It pains me that so many 1000+ year old ruins are tourist attractions completely open to the public. I love to see them in person, but not at the cost of random assholes being able to vandalize them.

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What kind of books do you think you'd find in a Mayan or Aztec library? The Mayans had a fully developed written language, and the Aztecs had simple phonograms and made tons of paper. One of the original Aztec emperors, Nezahualcoyotl, supposedly had a library created in his city to collect all the knowledge he could. What did they write about?

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>>3045182
I think the best job to have in those days was merchant. Travel the world, see all of the cities while avoiding the insane religious ceremonies.
Aztec nobles got some of the more interesting jobs but were held to higher standards and faced extremely severe punishments. Warriors, ball players and slaves were sacrificed in horrible ways. Priests, warriors, nobility all practiced blood letting rituals involving cutting and puncturing legs, ears, or genitals.
You'd probably want to be a commoner. Farmers might have lived comfortable lives but it would be labour intensive and boring.
Merchants had the best deal I think.

>>3045220
I read that the ones who brought up that the Aztecs had sacrificial ceremonies were priests and that when modern archeologists went to the site and found a large amount of bodies that they "could draw no other conclusion than that they were sacrificed". Made me wonder how trustworthy the notion is. Any supplemental evidence? There's also that Incan girl who got mummified, because she was dying from tuberculisis. So what if that was how they treated their terminally ill? And we know that illnesses were making em drop by the bushes prior to the arrival of the Spanjards. So where's the actual evidence?

>>3045186
Fuck off you bleeding heart little bitch. Thats part of the way they get funded. Don't make my taxes, which are already too high, worse by insisting all the oldest sites need to be 100% state funded because it's something you like and appreciate.

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>>3045234
The evidence, as far as I know, includes depictions of sacrifice in their art, the eye witness reports of multiple conquistadors (sometimes unreliable, their writings sometimes contradicted each other and were written with bias), and the work of forensic archaeologists on the human remains. It seems very unlikely that the sacrifice rituals were made up by the Spanish.

>>3045247
You fucker, I'm the president of Mexico. I'll raise your taxes for having a giant stick up your ass. Little bitch.

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Labna

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>>3045477

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>>3045479

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Machu Picchu

Nice thread I'll add some pics to contribute.

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>>3046098

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Mayans need to revive the mayan script
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgsQndSyfHg

>>3045194
The aztecs burned texts inorder to erase the history or their enemies

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>>3046098
>>3046863
>Machu Picchu
>Mayan

>>3046863
Why did they build on top of a mountain instead of in the valley?

>>3045130
Vaguely relevant video on the Meso-American sprachbund, including the Mayan languages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oXwlvjld_o

>>3047384
>Hill Mexicans
>Not Mayan

>>3047391
Look at the view though...

>>3047384
>Or any ancient civilization of the Americas.

>>3047391
We can only guess. Possibly because the mountains held religious significance, or possibly it was a nice retreat with a view.

>>3047391
They had a culture of astronomy/astrology, man. You ever see the sky from the top of a remote mountain?

>>3047366
I agree. It's interesting how independent origins for writing can lead to completely unique symbols and word structures.

>>3047380
Itzcoatl may have burned history books, but he had no jurisdiction over the cities of the other emperors.

>>3047380
The Maya were pretty far from the Aztecs, he didn't touch Texcocos library which was Nezahualcoyotl and reputed to have been the largest of Mesoamerica. It was like the library of Alexandria of the Americas. There's also entire regions whose codices never survived like the K'iches and other Guatemalan Maya, Xoconochco, Pipil etc. We also have very few of Mixtec codices and no examples of codices from the Classic period of Mesoamerica, just books with pages stuck together or flakes of remains.

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the classical Mayan civilization was some next-level shit

>>3045130

How much do we know about the Maya? Do we have knowledge of them comparable to what we know of the Romans?

>>3047947
We don't but we know a lot more about them then we did 30 years ago. We probably know about them as much as we do about the Gauls or Germanic tribes.

>>3045268
But no word to mouth comments from the actual Mayans or remnant traditions?

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>>3046109
lol forgot to do this. I'll contribute with Maya vase paintings.

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>>3050306
That last pic was the Moon embracing the Deer, one of her consorts on the left, while the old deity, Itzamnaaj is dying and being attended to by a male, perhaps his son or one of the hero twins.

pic related is a scene of old men applying makup, getting fanned, and served drugs and alcohol by young female attendants, before the presence of a deity on a throne. These women may be the 'painted' ladies like the equivalent of courtesan or geisha seen in Maya culture.

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>>3050330
Two couples (women on the left and men on the right of both pairs) dance and sing while facing each other. A musician in the middle plays music.

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>>3050334
Also note in the last scene the woman with the brush in her headdress means shes a scribe.

pic related an old man tutors his students on proper writing spelling and math, the speech dots that meet the glyphs show what he is saying to them. Pointing out their mistakes down to the pages of an open book. The two scenes ashow different students but the same teacher in different situations.

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>>3050356
A fat lord of a city is recieving gifts of chocolate while his dwarf assistant drinks some of the chocolate beverage and lesser lords bow to the seated one. Another dwarf holds a mirror for the seated lord. Musicians (conch and trumpeters) play behind the scenes.

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>>3050371
The long nosed merchant god, Ek chuah acts out a performance of the impregnation of Blood Moon, the daughter of an Underworld lord who gave birth to the Hero twins by being spat on her hand. The one playing Blood Moon is actually a male dressed as her. Implying these are actors doing this performance and not a literal mythic scene.

Where could I go, travel wise, to experience surviving Aztec/Mayan culture?

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>>3050387
"Snake Lady" entwined with the Underworld bearded Serpent, Och Chan, coming forth from the leg of K'awil (God K), invoked by the Lady. Out of the serpents maws the lecherous aged deity, Itzam (God N), comes out to have sexual relations with her. The woman is possibly the Moon Goddess, while another version of this vase painting suggests she could also be the Earth personified as a woman, giving birth to God N through her relations with Och Chan. Others suggest she may not be a deity but an elite woman having relations with deities.

>>3050400
For Maya go to the Yucatan peninsula, Chiapas such as San Cristobal de las Casas, and Guatemala, especially around Quetzaltenango, Lake Atitlan, Peten, and the departments of Quiche, Huehuetenango, Totonicapan. For Aztec I'd go to the states of Tlaxcala, Morelos and Puebla.

>>3050419
What am I looking out for here?

>>3050421
Markets, fashion, cermonies, diviners, food etc. I suggest checking out the play Rabinal Achi its one of the few precolumbian dramas still performed by the Maya.

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>>3050403
A group of warriors do a dancing procession with standard bearers.

>>3050439
You did me a solid favor m8. I'll work it into my travel bucket list.

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Permission to hijack this thread with the Navajo?

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>>3050441
Aftermath of a war scene, crying and grieving women captives (probably noblewomen stripped naked for shame) some with their children and attendants of a conquered city. While triumphant warriors intimidate them.

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>>3050456
A trimphant king sits on a throne with his booty from a conquest beneath him. Surrounded by his warriors who bring him captives from the conquered city, stripped naked some with their hair cut.

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>>3050470
A captive warrior on a scaffold is about to be beheaded while warriors (one which has a trophy head) and musicians look on.

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>>3050481
Combat scene between two forces.

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>>3050487
>Two teams of 3 combatants boxers each using conch shell hand weapons, one team wearing G3 masks and the other team wearing G3 jaguar heads as trophy heads on the back of their belts. One of this team is lying on ground with mask fallen off. boxing hand to hand.

tight stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d02DbJyRFrQ

>>3050490
These are great, thank you

>>3045186
To be 100% fair, that's basically what they functioned as in ancient times: town squares for families to hang out in.

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Take a close look, those are not hills. Sadly was destroyed by Pedro de alvarado.

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>The spanish burning of native codices was basically a second library of alexandria
>except even worse because there were basically no written records outside of what was burned
>we basically lost an entire parallel branch of human history and culture
>what we do know sounds rad as fuck
>Basically all of the huge metropolis's are either leveled and destroyed or are buried under itself historical colional structures or infanstructure that current mexicans are using and will never get dug up

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Daily reminder the maya had siege towers

>>3051352
I didn't realize the scale of it until I saw those tiny people on the left

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>>3052706
>mfw we know next to nothing about the olmecs history, language, mythology or daily life

>>3052838
Eh, I don't consider that as much of a loss. Even if the spanish hadn't came along, we'd still likely not know that much more about the olmecs directly.

>>3052845
The mystery though is intriguing and it triggers me at the same time. All we can hope for is clues in archeology.

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did mayans do this too?

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>>3050490

A Tikal lady visits and greets the King of the city of Ik'.

>>3052944
Hair dying? Yes, they did. Vase paintings show them using yellow, red and white. Though some may be wigs some are also dyes. As for teeth dying, some darkened it black in the Yucatan during the Spanish arrival.

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Somewhat related to the thread a recent publishing of new findings in the excavations of Teotihuacan.

>INAH Finds a Possible Tunnel Under the Pyramid of the Moon
INAH has found another possible tunnel underneath the Pyramid of the Moon. It was found by electrical resistivity tomography. The tunnel appears to go from the center of the Moon plaza to the pyramid. This would mirror the tunnels beneath the Pyramid of the Sun and the Temple of Quetzalcoatl. The tunnels equate to the idea of Teotihuacan being related to the underworld and to agricultural fertility.

>There are indications there may be other underground sites under the same pyramid. INAH will move to excavate the tunnel. This kind of excavation takes years of slow careful work.

>INAH has the best report of this discovery

Original article

http://www.inah.gob.mx/es/boletines/6309-especialistas-del-inah-localizan-posible-tunel-bajo-la-plaza-y-piramide-de-la-luna-en-teotihuacan

for english speakers

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/ct-scans-find-tunnel-mexicos-teotihuacan-ruins-48440212

>>3053014
Gracias.

Salu2

>>3053014
What are the chances there's a vault of codices under there?

>>3053190
1000%

>>3053190
>>3053190
It's possible. Codices have been found before the thing is finding one still in tact and in a condition well enough to read.

>>3053202
if they do find one which civilization is it going to be becuase as i understand teotihuacan changed leadership alot.

>>3053415
I'm pretty sure Teotihaucan's builders are considered their own culture.

>>3053415
Probably Maya as they had a neighborhood in Teotihuacan and they're artists have likely been commissioned in the area before like in Cacaxtla where they painted the battle scene. Or possibly one of whoever ruled Teotihuacan which we don't know. In which case I'd speculate it looking like the Puebla or Mixtec codices only drawn in Teotihuacan style using the glyphs they used.

>>3053438
if it was from the totihuacan builders than it would have to be pre 300 ad which would be really old for a meso american codex no

>>3053455
Not him, but it is possible. Writing began at least since 1000 bc in mesoamerica. We don't know when writing on books itself began.

>>3053202
>Codices have been found before the thing is finding one still in tact and in a condition well enough to read.
which?

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>>3052838
The olmecs were more advance than follow up civilizations. they made huge islands to live on and had running water with stone fountains.

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>>3045152
I'm mexican and never got to do that one fucked.

But did the moon pyramid in Teoutihuacan

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I find it cool how the big three Amerindian civilizations all had their own unique ways of producing food in their unique environments that was lost when the "advanced" Europeans showed up. Aztec had Chinampas, Maya made large scale use rain catching of cisterns, and the Inca used terrace farms.

>>3054549
it wasn't lost, they still use all 3 to this day

>>3053815
They also invented writing in the Americas. The Zapotecs and Maya followed after them in this regard. With the Maya refining it to proper writing.

>>3054558
For one, the Maya civilization fell apart and stopped using rain catching cisterns as much before the Spanish even arrived. I don't know how long it took for Chinampas to disappear. And the land that the Inca occupied produced more land back then than it does now because they don't use terrace farms.

>>3053644
They have found disintegrated flakes of Maya codices from the Classical period. Or books disintegrated so much the pages glued together. The climate of the region was really poor for preservation. The Maya only codex discovered that wasn't in such a poor state was the Grolier codex found in the 60s in a cave dating to early Postclassic probably contemporary to Chichen Itza or Toltecs which is why the style (Mixtec and Toltec influence)is different from the other 3 Maya codices we have made around the time of the Spanish arrival 500 years later.

>>3054549
Amerindians aren't genetically stupid, I consider them "humans"

However, Aryan Europeans (Germanics, Fins, etc) are Super human "Ubermensch"

>>3054627
Don't bring your race autism to this thread.

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When exactly did the Mayan written language die? Was it completely lost or on they way to being completely lost when Mayan civilization collapsed before Europeans even arrived? Or was the ability of Mayans to read and write holding on past the collapse and was only wiped out by European domination?

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>>3054627
>/pol/ tries to make a foothold in thread
>autism so great they either link to the wrong post or fail utterly at a segue

>>3054648
It lasted until the lat 16th century. Possibly a bit later. When Spaniards came the friars burned all the books they could find. I think 3000 or so were destroyed from the Yucatan alone. Those who could write were scribes and from the elites of society. Since they were punished if they were caught producing such books out of fear they stopped. The rest were indoctrinated by the friars and taught to read and write with the Spaniards' alphabet so the knowledge was lost in time. Occasionally some glyphs would appear in colonial era texts. But by the 1800s it was gone. So essentially it was forced out.

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>>3054682
Okay.

I am curious what Amerindian development would have been like had Europeans not arrived. I presume that the Mayan written language would have slowly disseminated to the Aztec (and maybe to South America?) and evolved/progressed, becoming more like Afro-Eurasian written languages.

It's so cool that we live on a planet that had two utterly separate networks of civilization. It's like a real life "what if" scenario.

>>3054627
Incas were superior to europeans though.

>>3054717
The Aztecs could have. They didn't have many syllabic glyphs but they could have developed it more and it would have been easier with Nahuatl since it had become the lingua franca of Mesoamerica.

I would guess if it were to reach the Incas It'd filter through the Ecuadorians first who were trading in West Mexico. The people in West Mexico were the Purepecha and Colima who were settling a war with each other. And the former was also at war with their eastern neighbors, the Aztecs. Even though the Purepecha and Aztecs were at war and their borders heavily militarized though they still had unofficial trade with each other, like a black market. The Aztecs would also have to increased relations with the Maya which was happening.

>>3054780
*to have

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Political relationships in the Maya Classical period among the major cities.

New discoveries found in the main Aztec temple.

>A sacrificial wolf elaborately adorned with some of the finest Aztec gold ever found and buried more than five centuries ago has come to light in the heart of downtown Mexico City, once home to the Aztec empire's holiest shrines.

>The quality and number of golden ornaments is highly unusual and includes 22 complete pieces - such as symbol-laden pendants, a nose ring and a chest plate - all made from thin sheets of the precious metal, lead archaeologist Leonardo Lopez told Reuters.

>Held in a stone box, the cache was discovered in April near the capital city's bustling main square, the Zocalo, behind the colonial-era Roman Catholic cathedral and off the steps of what was once the most important Aztec ceremonial temple, now known as the Templo Mayor.

>"These are, without a doubt, the largest and most refined pieces of gold discovered so far," said Lopez, referring to the 205 offerings discovered over nearly four decades of excavations around the site, 16 of which have contained some gold.

>Not long after the roughly eight-month-old wolf was killed, it was likely dressed with golden ornaments as well as a belt of shells from the Atlantic Ocean, then carefully placed in a stone box by Aztec priests above a layer of flint knives, according to Lopez.

>The west-facing wolf represented Huitzilopochtli, the Aztec war god and solar deity. Wolves were believed to help guide fallen warriors across a dangerous river in the netherworld.

Full article:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-archaeology-aztecs-idUKKBN19S1RA

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>>3050387
Long nosed merchant, aye?

>>3056475
It makes me wonder how many more undiscovered secrets are buried under Mexico city. How thoroughly did the Spanish plunder Tenochtitlan before building on top of it?

>>3057605
I think the biggest hidden thing from Tenochtitlan aside from maybe finding another codex is the Huitzilopochtli statue that was in the Great Temple. It was snuck away and hidden before the city fell to prevent it's capture or destruction. We don't know where they hid it, but it was massive and probably highly deocrated as it was their most important shrine. The Spanish plundered most of what they wanted which was gold beofre the siege, they dropped most of it in the lake when trying to escape. They stripped searched all the citizens for any gold hiding in under their clothes. Which greatly bothered them. The Tlaxcaltecs did a lot of plundering, though when the city fell.

>>3056456
>tikal
what was their fucking problem

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>>3059004
Tikal did nothing wrong.

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>>3059066
>>3059004
But more seriously here is a rough timeline of events about the rivalry of Tikal and Calakmul.

>537 Yaxchilan captures the rulers of Bonampak, Lakamtuun, and Calakmul; Calakmul retaliates and conquers Yaxchilan; Beginning of First Tikal Calakmul War (537-572).
>546 Calakmul conquers Naranjo; Calakmul appoints Aj Wosal as ruler of Naranjo.
>553 Wak Chan K'awill (Tikal) oversees inauguration of Yajaw Te' K'inich II (Caracol) attempting a Tikal-Caracol alliance.
>556 Breakup of the Tikal-Caracol alliance; Tikal and Caracol at war.
>561 Sky Witness coronated ruler of Calakmul beginning the Serpent dynasty.
>562 Wak Chan K’awiil (Tikal) captured and sacrificed by soldiers from Caracol in Calakmul-Caracol alliance; Tikal suffers major loss of influence in the region.
>564 Tikal wins battle against Caracol.
>572 Sky Witness dies; Tikal defeated; End of First Tikal Calakmul War.
>579 Inauguration of Scroll Serpent (Calakmul).
>611 Scroll Serpant launches long-distance campaign on Palenque; Logistical achievement and victory demonstrate Calakmul dominance in the region.
>626 Caracol launches two attacks on Naranjo (both Calakmul allies).
>629 Founding of Dos Pilas as vassal state of Tikal; Ajaw K'inich Muwaan Jol II (Tikal) makes his son B'alaj Chan K'awiil ruler of Dos Pilas; Extension of Tikal influence.
>631 Yuknoom Head (Calakmul) conquers Naranjo; Naranjo ruler tortured.
>636 Inauguration of Yuknoom the Great (Calakmul) who reigned 50 years from 636-686.

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>>3059095
>>3059095
Cont'd
>650 Yuknoom the Great (Calakmul) attacks Dos Pilas; B'alaj Chan K'awiil (Dos Pilas) takes refuge at Aguateca; Beginning of Second Tikal Calakmul War (650-695).
>657 Yuknoom the Great attacks Tikal; Nuun Ujol Chaak flees; Calakmul gains regional supremacy; B'alaj Chan K'awiil (Dos Pilas) accepts Yuknoom the Great as his overlord.
>672 Nuun Ujol Chaak (Tikal) defeats Dos Pilas; B'alaj Chan K'awiil flees to Chaak Naah; (Nuun Ujol Chaak and B'alaj Chan K'awiil are brothers).
>673 Nuun Ujol Chaak burns Chaak Naah; B'alaj Chan K'awiil flees to Hix Witz.
>677 Calakmul defeats Nuun Ujol Chaak at Pulil; B'alaj Chan K'awiil returns to Dos Pilas
>679 B'alaj Chan K'awiil (Dos Pilas) defeats Nuun Ujol Chaak (Tikal) in Dos Pilas-Calakmul alliance.
>680 Naranjo defeats Caracol; K'ak' Ujol K'inich II (Caracol) flees; Decline of Caracol influence.
>682 Balaj Chan K'awiil (Dos Pilas) commissions inscriptions of his wars with Tikal describing "pools of blood" and "piles of heads"; Calakmul installs Lady Six Sky, daughter of B'alaj Chan K'awill (Dos Pilas) as ruler of Naranjo.
>>682-695 Jasaw Chan K'awill I (Tikal) launches cultural revitalization efforts linking Tikal to earlier rulers and practices before its defeat by Calakmul.
>695 Tikal defeats Calakmul in battle; regional power shifts to Tikal; End of Second Tikal-Calakmul War.
>705 Dos Pilas defeats Tikal.
>720 Resurgence of conflicts; Beginning of the Third Tikal-Calakmul War.
>725 Uaxaclajuun Ub'aah K'awiil (Copán) installs K'ak' Tiliw Chan Yopaat as ruler of Quiriguá.
>734 K’ak Tiliw Chan Yopaat declears Quiriguá's independence from Copán.
>736 Wamaw K'awiil (Calakmul) meets with K’ak Tiliw Chan Yopaat (Quiriguá).
>738 Uaxaclajuun Ub'aah K'awiil (Copán) captured and beheaded by K'ak' Tiliw Chan Yopaat (Quiriguá).
>741 Death of Lady Six Sky (Naranjo).
>743 Tikal defeats El Peru.
>744 Tikal defeats Naranjo; Calakmul defeated; End of the Third Tikal Calakmul War.

>>3045130
That twenty-twelve apocalypse meme was so obnoxious.

>>3059136
It was a scam pushed by New Agers in the 70s. The Maya never mentioned an apocalypse around that date. In fact that date was barely ever mentioned at all.

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Does anyone have pics of what the monuments and buildings may have looked like at their peak?

>>3059311
That building is based on part of the Tikal acropolis. As for your question yes, but which period are you looking for?

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>>3059311

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>>3059580

>>3059311
>>3059532

Thanks m8. I'm not looking for any period in particular. Also, how did they color their buildings?
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>>3045146
Was it pigment/paint or did they use a particular type of rock?

>>3059804
The buildings were coated in white stucco made from limestone powder, and the red colour they often painted them with was likely made from red clays and minerals.

>>3046098
Going there in a few days

>>3059804
They also applied a mix in the paint that made it glittery so it would shine more in the sunlight. In the postclassic period, the buildings were painted other colors sometimes. There was a temple of the moon in Guatemala that was dark green like the sea, and in Tulum the buildings are blue.

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>>3060878
Tulum

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>>3057605
Here you have a nice new secret, conveniently hidden by bong revisionists and indigenists:

Tower of human skulls in Mexico casts new light on Aztecs
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-archaeology-skulls-idUSKBN19M3Q6

There are women and children too.
https://youtu.be/TzVGfBz1xb8

>But le evil conqueror
Beaners and bong pirates BTFO.

>>3062663
Incas were superior to europeans anyway.

>>3062663
We had a thread about this already and finding women and children among them is not anything revealing given that they were sacrificed in monthly ceremonies. Also in the Maya site of Iximche they have found on their tzumpan (cakchiquel term for tzompantli that the nahuas used) they found women among them. However they may have actually been female combatants as their anals make reference to women who fought in battle.
Speaking of anals, I think I will dump the Popol Vuh here maybe as a /his/ story time. Or should I make another thread for it?

>>3062975
*annals

>>3062663
>Here you have a nice new secret, conveniently hidden by bong revisionists
>proceeds to post a video of a bong news network which claims that many of the skulls belonged to women and children, when it's about 2-3%

>Leading archeologist, Lorena Vázquez, explains that from the total sample consisting of approximately 221 individuals, they have identified the sex of only 3% of them, two thirds correspond to male individuals, and the remaining third to Female individuals. Likewise, in proportion, 97% percent are adults, two percent belong to infants and one percent remain unidentified. These reliable facts have come to "revolutionize" the idea that prevailed over the sacrifices exhibited in the tzompantli, that it was only about young men and adults.

>>3062975
Post it here

>>3063200
Saved. Been looking for higher res versions of these thanks.
>>3063191
Ok

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>>3063349
Starting with an intro so people unfamiliar can follow through as well.

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>>3063519
This part of the intro now describes the contents of the Popol Vuh. I will keep posting the full intro, but for those who want to wait for the actual story, just sit tight and I'll mention when it begins.

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Every time I read about Amerindian civilisations, I wonder about their common ancestors with Europeans and Asians, living somewhere in Central Asia 15,000 to 20,000 years ago. What religions did they adhere to? What buildings did they create? Were they fully or partially nomadic?

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>>3063835
Some pronounciations if you have trouble with the names.

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>>3063843
OK, here begins the story of the Popol Vuh.

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>>3063964
I'll resume later.

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How historically accurate was apocalypto in its representation of the aztecs/maya aesthetic/buildings?

>>3062663
>People are inherently good and sacrificing them is bad
WHEW

>>3064012
Mel Gibson may not have done much research in writing the movie, but his art team did. The aesthetics are very good. I just wish it had taken place when the Mayans were at their peak.

>>3064012
It's a combo of different citys of different architectural styles of different periods in a 1000 year time scale. It doesn't resemble any particular city, but rather has a more influenced look.
>>3065151
Some things were accurate, like the outfits in the city, but even here there was a lot of made up stuff and the villagers were wearing completely made up stuff. The warriors too weren't very accurate. It's very hit and miss but I can tell you it doesn't look at all like what the Yucatecs wore in the 1500's.

>>3049448
lol, no word to mouth yet