>yfw the Ottomans were actuallly greater than the Romans The

*british

>>3036039
Didn't say the Ottomans were the biggest empire, they just surpassed their father, the roman empire as the Ottomans are a continuation of the Roman empire.

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>>3036028
I wonder who could be responsible for this post...

>>3036046
im saying the british are though

>>3036049
An astute observer who recognizes the importance of the Ottoman Empire and how they continued the legacy of Rome is behind the post.

>>3036049
You're into some weird porn.

>>3036054
The British had the largest empire ever for sure but they're unrelated to the Romans and most their land was made up of huge vacant areas that didn't take much effort to take over. By no means is this to undersell the great achievements of the British btw, they're quite remarkable.

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>>3036055
Declaring so brazenly that the Ottomans are greater than Rome is nothing more than Turkish propaganda. Observer? Just like how you "observed" 1 million Pontic Greeks and Armenians spontaneously die from natural causes? Nice try, Mehmet.

>>3036071
>but they're unrelated to the Romans
wrong! remove the veil from your eyes my friend, the ottomans are NOT the successors

>>3036074
Why do Armenians and Greeks always try to derail Turk related threads with unrelated killings that came at the very end of the empire's life?

>>3036085
Why do Turks think that anyone cares about them? Be a good little roach and scurry back to your nest.

Your revisionism won't work here. Conquering Constantinople doesn't make you the Roman successor, it makes you the barbarian, the antithesis to civilized society.

>>3036097
Why do you still hold such a grudge? Get over it man. Just because you hate them and don't want to talk about them doesn't mean others don't either. Besides if you hate them so much then why are you even in this thread? Why do you care enough to stick around?

>>3036103
I don't hate Turks. I hate when they make bullshit claims like you've been doing.

>>3036071
British have just as much claim to Rome as the T*rks. More in fact since they're Western.

>>3036112
The Ottomans had Byzantine blood and they took over the Eastern Roman throne.

>>3036110
You do hate Turks, don't lie. You seem obsessed enough to even come to these threads which is pretty sad. I didn't make any bullshit claims.

>>3036028
The Russians are third Rome, and they still surpass their father, their grandfather and the pretender.

>>3036125
They never held any Roman lands

>>3036119
No bullshit claims? The first post in this thread is utter nonsense in so many ways. A) Ottoman Empire is objectively not greater than Roman Empire B) it isn't the successor to Rome and C) I'm in this thread to correct your shallow and turk-centric view of history.

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and so /pol/ derails another thread

No one is the "successor" to Rome. Rome died in 1453. The only possible argument otherwise is the Roman Catholic Church, not UK, not Russia, and not Turks. None of those have anything to do with Rome. God this thread is frustrating.

>>3036136
>Ottoman Empire is objectively not greater than Roman Empire
is this a joke? You can clearly see that the Ottomans had more land than the Roman Empire.

>it isn't the successor to Rome
How is it not? The Ottomans are related to the Byzantines by blood and they sat on the Roman throne and adopted most of the Roman systems too.

>>3036146
Having more land than Rome does not make it better in any conceivable way, what the fuck are you even on about. You want a simple reason why? Everyone in this thread is clamoring to explain why their country is the successor to Rome, to somehow legitimize their existence by connecting it to Rome. Not only that, but nations and leaders have done the same since Rome died. No has ever done the same for the Ottoman Empire.

>>3036028
romaboos on suicide watch

>>3036156
OP doesn't say better it says greater. Greater means bigger.

>>3036028
romanboos BTFO.

>>3036085
Why do Turks have to pretend like they're anything other than the scum of the earth
Like really you just narrowly beat out the gypsies for being the absolute worst

>>3036028
it's too bad the Ottomans were so heavily BTFO in WWI that everyone in the region is goat-fucking retarded now. I don't think a great empire has hit the wall harder since. they were pretty dope tho, anon. definitely underrated compared to those diddlers on the Mediterranean. I might be biased tho cuz I was baptized eastern orthodox.

>>3036097
I'm not Turkish but I am interested in them. Idk why you westerners get so butthurt over them when they're contemporary european empires were doing worst shit around the world.

>>3036225
>>>/pol/

>>3036028
How different would the world be if the Ottoman Empire adopted Christianity instead of Islam?

>>3036327
I assume you mean around 1453?Ottoman ghazis scatter to serve other beyliks, Ottomans collapse just like the Greeks did only now it's their own lords/generals eating them. Maybe Serbs or Bulgars make some gains in the Balkans, and other parts become autonomous, but ultimately some local Turkish nobles duke it out over who will become emperor.

>>3036127
Crimea.

>>3036119
>posts a retardedthread
>gets btfo
>'y-you're obsessed!'

>>3036028
>Half the empire is garbage underdeveloped desert and mountain
>Not even establishing Mare Nostrum

Wow it's fucking nothing

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oh yeah, real valuable land

>>3036028
WE

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>>3036049
>>3036074
>>3036097
>that buttblasted wh*Te animal
lol

>>3036853
They did it's called the Black Sea.

>>3037006
>The Black Sea
>Comparable to the Mediterranean

>Wow it's fucking nothing.

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>>3036863
Hahaha very cute cartoon Crescent moon man

>>3037082
Even the med was a turkish lake at some point in the 16th century.
Before lepanto it was more or less ottoman.

>make thread about ottomans/turks in general
>thread is swarmed by butthurt larpers and balkanites
>get shitload of (you)s

Why are you faggots so butthurt?

>>3037111
>anachronous map
>thinks british rule over indians was as absolute as ottoman rule over arabs
>confuses owning 5 ports in an area with owning every man, dog and chair in the area

>>3036839
He didn't get btfo

>>3036863
Im gonna need you to explain what ulan means

>>3037222
Turkic cavalry regiments in the Russian Empire.

>>3036071
such a meme, india was a rich and vast area with huge armies. Britain beat them all with the fine art of divide and conquer. The fact Britain took over India with such little effort should be inspiring. Hitler based his occupation of the USSR on the Raj in India.

>>3037230
All right, seeing how im apparently retarded, could you explain how turkic cavalry regiments in the russian army have anything to do with the topic of that picture

>>3037265
They don't, it probably means something in turkish, but since I am not turkish I don't know.
Thats why I told you what I do know, that the word (some turkish word) was used to refer to turkic regiments from the more autonomous tribes regions of the Russian empire. Basically non-slavic cossacks.

>>3037268
Oh, ok, thanks for explaining what you did, i didnt even know russians had turk cavalry fighting for them. On a side note, is there any turk here that can explain the picture, i have seen it before and it interests me for some fuckong reason

>>3037274
Well Russia conquered and ruled over a lot of turks, and they were allowed to live however they want, as long as they send soldiers to russian wars (and were used to crush peasant rebellions, since the army might join them...).
All the land we call "central Asia" today is turks, and all of it used to be Russian owned.

>>3037274
It doesnt really have a meaning actually, you use word in certain contexts to come off a bit more macho.
Also its not a nice thing to say in polite company.

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>>3037133
British rule over India was far more absolute than Ottoman rule over "arabs". Not only that but one could easily argue that the British had more influence over the Arabs than the Turks!
Come to think of it, there are a good few exhibitions which would suggest that the Anglos had more influence over the Turks than the Turks.

>>3037290
Nice anglo science, anglo man.
I didn't mean during the period of decline, I meant during its prime.
You know, when the sultan could walk into a house and tell the man to go to the garden to make him a salad, while he fucked his wife. Because he owned both of them.

Compare peak Ottoman with peak British, not declined sick man of Europe with peak British.
The Ottoman control of the Arabs was surely more absolute than the British model of 50 guys in the palace holding a gun to the local prince, and the local prince governing his people from the balcony, and then in the villages nobody even knows there are foreigners in the country.

>>3037295
Gonna need a source on this Arab cuckoldry.

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>>3036028
the son?

>>3037265
Ulan also means something like boy used kinda like NIGGA. A bit hard to explain, it's a bit untranslatable.

t. was studying and learning Turkish

The Middle-East is not that hard to unify, its just a bunch of desserts and mostly coastal urban centers. The balkans at the time of Ottoman ascension were basically fractured petty states and Byzantium was in fast decline, and half its size after the 4th crusade.

On the other hand, no one has been able to control both the whole of Mediterranean and western europe after the fracturing and collapse of the Roman empire.

>>3037362
>one of the world most populated area since the dawn of civilization
>easy to conquer

>>3037922
The Mideast was still depopulated by centuries of war. Ottomans were very lucky, when this luck wore off, they were crushed rather easily.

>>3037967
As a population it was more populated than the Ottoman empire as a whole. the reason why they conquered it was smart outplay on ottomans part rather than it being "easy"

>>3038037
>turkey
>europe

>>3038040
what?

>>3038041
imagine having your head on so backwards that you actually think Turkey was part of the Western Roman Empire

>>3038050
No one said that

>>3038053
see
>>3038037
>>3037967
>>3037922
>>3037362
>>3037349
>>3037295

stop strawmanning

>>3038064
Are you retarded? You replied to me about WRE when me and the other guy were talking about the fucking middle east and its population. We never mentioned WRE.