Art Thread II

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>>3028602
First for personal favorite

Why are these girls always so sleepy. They need some coffee or espresso.

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>>3028689


Because being a woman is hard

>>3028689
I've had models fall asleep naked on me when posing in very comfy poses so I'm not surprised. I just let them sleep and resume drawing/painting.

>>3028720
CUTE

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Antinous is tooooo aesthetic

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Jacopo Ligozzi, 1604

>>3028820
Hey, chief. You okay? You playing corpse or you putting the blinds on the Dusties? I thought you were a deader for sure.

>>3028820
is that his pet squirrel?

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>>3028602
anyone else like romanticism?

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>>3029948
Of course.

>>3029946
The amenities of a Muslim's sin

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>>3028682
First for personal favorite

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>>3030076

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>>3030090
these are fantastic.

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>>3030162
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>>3030551

Yeah seeing this at the Met is very beautiful but it doesn't quite compare to

>>3030551
the most bro tier emperor

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>Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

>O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are thou, that canst not slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil shits, and your army eats. Thou shalt not, thou son of a whore, make subjects of Christian sons; we have no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck thy mother.
>Thou Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-fucker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before God, grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our dick. Pig's snout, mare's arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw thine own mother!
>So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!

>- Koshovyi otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.

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Dont mind if I post a couple of favorites?

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Art gives me weird emotions

>>3031457
That picture gives my weewee a weird emotion

>>3031469
kek
I think it's a cool painting, but every time I post it I get pervy responses.

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>>3031457
that means it's working, if it didnt, it could hardly be called art.

Which is probably why I have problems with modern art, no I am not discrediting modern art, (with classical art we have the fortune of having forgotten all the shitty and mediocre art, we are stuck with mediocre and shitty contemporary art because we dont have the fortune of having forgotten about it.)

Modern art has become so cryptic of what it's trying to convey, in many cases, just a meta commentary and sometimes a inside joke. Even the best of contemporary art as really hard to wrap your head around and the only feeling you're left with is either confusion or thinking it was clever. It almost never evokes a mood, feeling or a radical thought. You can go through a modern art gallery in 15 minutes and not miss a thing, it just works on a surface level, any more depth doesnt exists untill you give it depth and the artist is very well aware of that and I say fuck that, I am not here to give your art value.

Sorry about the rant, I'm an art pleb.

>>3031321
History's first smug anime face.

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>>3031509
This is modern art and it certainly evoked a mood in me when I saw it in person. It's huge in person too. Quite striking.

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>>3031574
still very traditional though

>>3031509
>Modern art has become so cryptic of what it's trying to convey
Well sometimes it's the opposite. Sometimes all a piece of modern art is, is a political/philosophical message. The piece of art is used solely to convey a message so the artist ends up not caring about the aesthetics of his art.

>>3031587
My point is Modern art is pretty varied, it's just that you need to know where to look. It can be straightforward or cryptic as you call it.

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>>3031606
true, but I dont care much for the minimalist abstract expressionism ( or whatever it's called at this point). It's all so underwhelming and the snobbery when you dont much care for it. It's like walking into a room where everyone is completely high of their asses and talking about how profound the universe is on a rudementary high school philosophy level.

I understand why we are at this point, we couldnt have painted landscapes and grapes for all eternity, but I wish for something more when I go to a contemporary art exhibition, and when I do, all my hopes and expectations are crushed by feelings of disapointment when it's all so underwhelming.

Am I expecting too much? Will reading up on post modern art help me appreciate it more?

>>3030141
I want to COLONIZE her.

>>3028602
is there supposed to be an alium in her dress?

>>3031663
>Am I expecting too much? Will reading up on post modern art help me appreciate it more?

Idk. I just know that a lot of the rules that all forms of art used to have were thrown out the window in the past couple of centuries, and it was pretty cool for a little bit with stuff like Jazz and Expressionism, but it went to far and now we're here with shitty excuses for "art."

At least there were some cool art movements that occurred during the decline though.

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>>3028602
>Maximum file size allowed is 4 MB
fuck my arse

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>>3031585
any others of this model? Theres one in particular i like that i never saved

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>>3031663
>plebs still not understanding the difference between modern and contemporary art

>>3031663
>Am I expecting too much? Will reading up on post modern art help me appreciate it more?
No, it won't. I have and it didn't. I'd say your assessment that the best you can get out of it is the feeling that it was pretty clever is accurate. Reading up on it helped me find more of the works clever, and a huge portion of it certainly is essentially an inside joke so the further knowledge definitely helps there but it's still terribly unevocative. A lot of people point to DuChamp's "Fountain" as the most ridiculous example of modern art but that's missing the point; that was actually a very clever commentary on the contemporary nature of art and the gallery system, and in addition created some extremely intense emotions in those that viewed it due to its queerness and the intentional hubbub it caused. Very original and pretty cool. But what's shit is that that spawned a whole copycat fad that continues till today of putting random objects in art galleries and claiming it's deep. That is my main issue with the art of today as a whole: it really is too easy to just do something that no one else "gets." It's essentially the value of your name that determines the value of your work; the meaningfulness of the work depends entirely on the weight of the artist's name.
Can't remember the artist but there was one who commented on this by selling cans labelled "Artist's Shit" for $500 a pop and made a killing.

Try looking at some of Lucian Freud's work for a relatively modern and yet still understated, honest, and emotionally charged style of painting. But then again I'm a portraitfag so I'm a little biased.

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>>3032763
>"Really tired of your shit Death."

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>>3032788
>tfw you're trying to measure heavenly bodies but you're tripping balls at the same time.

>>3031509
Honestly that you use present tense when you talk about modern art really gives away that you are full of shit

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>>3032792

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The Slav Epic is pretty lit

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>>3032799
Saved

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>Irish """""""""art"""""""""

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>>3032799
http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/16040

I've seen these works at the National Gallery in Prague, they are huge paintings.

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>>3032808
Time to get back to our roots.

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>>3032804
lmao

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>>3030076
Does anyone think that muslim and far eastern art share similarities or is it just my untrained and ignorant eye?

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>>3032905
Nah, you're correct. The Middle East and China would have had plenty of interaction, so it would make sense that their art reflects that.

>>3032306
Thanks for the serious reply.

>>3032221
thanks for proving my point.

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>>3032897
These Maya vases are great but nothing like seeing them in person. It's the ideal way to view them, as it holds more suspense. You are turning the vessel to see what happens next in the scene since normally these have some sort of narrative. Some even have dialogue with speech bubbles.

>>3032804
Is this Slavic WE?

>>3032794
Not him, but modern art is not the same as Modern art.

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>>3028602

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>>3032757

I have a companion piece to this.

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>>3033508

no its just some russian guy that read too much tolkein

>>3036929
no need for plain stupid damage control on someone else's behalf

>>3037273

he has a point tho, its called 'contemporary art', technically, modern art was a subset of modernism, which gets shit on here cause it isnt pretty and figurative, which is basicaly a postmodern perspective in the sense that its a reaction to modernity, or rather a sort of anti-modernism, while at the same time attempting to claim or recapitulate somekind of fundamental value, like pintings being pretty in most cases, and being against everithing postmodernism is allegedly about, which again is a typicaly postmodern thing as well

maybe if we try somekind of neomodernism instead...

>>3032193
>sauce

>>3032802
I prefer the one on the right honestly

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Where is the Neoclassicism /his/?

>>3038735
Do you mean stuckism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuckism

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>>3032193
I can post what I have of the artist.

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>>3039087
For good ctontemporary figurative art Asia is doing a lot of nice art.

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>>3028753
I had forgotten how hot Antonius was, I have stood right in front of that bust of him in Munich. I would definitely fuck him.

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I like all art up until Symbolism and Surrealism. After that, I stop caring

>>3030542
Sauce?

>>3039103
This is shit, i fucking hate horny plebs

>>3039487
It's pretty aesthetic you're just a pretentious hipster contrarian.

>>3039083
Stuckism would be all well and good if they actually followed their remodernist manifesto, and didn't just get abandon their ideals for a few cheap shots because of maxxxtreme butthurt

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>>3032796
I can't tell if this is Perseus and Andromeda or Roger and Angelica.

I want to say Perseus since he is sometimes shown atop Pegasus in medieval/renaissance scenes, and Roger is on a griffin

>>3032728
is that zyzz?

>>3032701
fairchild gen 13

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>>3040778
Mielgo is great

>>3032306
Fact: Duchamp wasn't wholly relevant to the art world until the 50s when a retrospective was held and then it 'spawned a copycat fad' of Neo-Dada and the like.

Artist's Shit is good art that compares the artistic process of influence and production with that of biological digestion and defecation. It's more than just using his name to sell.

>>3031663
Reading will help, yes. Being open to the ideas will help. Forgetting everything you thought you knew about art and starting from scratch will help.

That being said there will be bad contemporary art. Something that doesn't fulfill or exhaust its own conditions. Something that just fails, but what it fails at depends on a number of factors other than generating emotion.

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>>3032774
What interests me is the Van Aken family, to whom Bosch belonged.
His family were all apparently painters, but only his work survives.

This mural, in the corner, the Crucifixion, is believed to have been done by Bosch's Grandfather, based on the similarity to a crucifixion painted by Bosch.

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>>3040842
This is a statue by Hieronymus Bosch's Nephew, also Jan.

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>>3040846
What interests me most about Bosch is his apparent connections to the Manuscript tradition that often goes unremarked upon.
His monsters are very reminiscent of the drolleries found in Medieval manuscripts, and even his color scheme is reminiscent of that found in some manuscripts, lots of reds, pinks, and blues.
His famous, alien architecture is also reminiscent of the borders found in illumination.

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I don't understand why abstract art gets so much hate. They are nice works that express emotions that are beyond words.

How people can be mad about suprematist art like this one?

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>>3040869
I mean, it's a nice looking pattern, but I'm not really feeling any emotions beyond words.
When I think of Emotion, I tend to think of Gothic or Impressionism or Symbolism.

When I think Abstract, I think of distance and apathy.

Maybe I just emphasize more with Humanity than shapes

>>3040869
Emotion isn't clean. It is not composed of 45 degree lines and clear-cut colours. That does not represent emotion or feeling. It looks nice enough, but as a piece of art it's shit.

>>3041002
Where do people get this idea that art is about emotion? Up until the decline of the Academies in the 19th century the highest art was primarily about narrative i.e. history painting, and the lesser genres like portrait and landscape don't express emotion at all.

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>>3041011
Well, Art has always had many different functions, including Emotional. For 1000 years, Art's main function in Europe was evoking Emotion in the form of Religious sympathy with the actions of the saints and Christ.
That's probably where most of the Romanticism sunk into art.
>>3041002
That's just a bad example of abstract art. It looks like a Machine made it.

>>3041011
He claimed that that piece represented "emotions beyond words". I am responding directly to that claim (it's full of shit), not claiming that art is about emotion.
However, I happen to be of the opinion that art without emotion is shit in general.
It is that opinion combined with the aforementioned refutation that leads me to conclude that that piece is shit art. You're free to disagree, but in a world where cameras can capture an image with perfect fidelity, pure physical representation is no longer the ideal in art. There has to be something else, and the something else I look for is emotional content, in addition to aesthetics.

Interesting that you use the present tense to refer to lack of emotional content of portraits and landscapes. Is that intentional?

>>3041024
I know, I was referring to that specific piece. But in general the same applies, it's hard to empathise with non-human shapes.

>>3041038
>However, I happen to be of the opinion that art without emotion is shit in general.

Yeah this is what I was referring to so it seemed like you were suggesting art is 'about' emotion.

Cameras don't capture draftsmanship either but you don't value draftsmanship in art? -- i.e. is art really about 'capturing' an image rather than 'rendering' it or 'constructing' it? Draftsmanship has been one of the dominant aspects of art from the Renaissance (colour as immediacy, even emotion, has been another) and abstract art is a continuation of this -- works are built up in the space of the frame using the rational line. I don't think it is fair to exclude one aspect of art in favour of the other then claim that the works that lack that aspect are shit. It doesn't seem to make sense.

> Is that intentional?
I mean that after the decline of the Academies there was a greater emphasis on 'emotion' or subjective experience but portrait and landscape remained relatively unchanged. I suppose that isn't very true now that I think about it but these changes occurred much later than with history painting.

>>3041086
So your claim is that it's unfair to dismiss art on emotional content if it looks nice? Not trying to strawman, just having a hard time understanding your argument. If so, then my response is that the two aspects are one and the same (for me at least, others may experience things differently). Personally I find aesthetics to always be linked to emotion. A beautiful or dramatic landscape evokes a particular feeling in me, even without overt sympathy to expressionism or other emotional forms. So does a striking face or scene. Beauty, to me, is the evocation of certain, usually pleasant, emotions, and is hard to objectively measure for this reason. However, this is why I find abstract art generally to be dull - it doesn't evoke any emotion, including those that would be evoked by something pretty. There are, naturally, some exceptions, but generally I wouldn't mind if I never saw an abstract piece again.

>>3041116
I just mean to highlight that there is also a 'constructed' aspect of art, or its 'process', rather than acting as a sort of window onto what it depicts. Based on your argument about the camera, the idea of draftsmanship can also function as 'something else' other than physical representation. And that is what a lot of big-M Modern art attempts anyway -- to tap into and manipulate the universals ('something else') beneath the visible surface of reality. You're not wrong but I think that you get out of art what you put in and there is room based on your argument to appreciate more abstract works.

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>>3041038
> It's full of shit
It isn't. For example, if you want to convey feelings of pain, it is better to use something like that, than trying to paint the suffering of a certain person, the objects of torture and so on, and so on.

Same way how smashing all the piano buttons at once better conveys frustration that any coherent melody.

People dismiss such things in their simplicity, but they have important roles. Saying, that they aren't art is like saying that 2+2=4 is not a math.

>>3041161
You missed the bit where I said
>that that piece
I was referring very specifically to that particular piece, not abstract art in general. I can easily recognise what you posted there as a representation of pain, whereas the other one looks like a corporate logo allowed to grow for too long.

r9k art

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAExa9P7hME

>>3041176
I can agree here. The first piece was pretty neutral, distant, even formal. Comparison with the corporate logo is valid here. Constructivism was created to be a symbol for ideas of its time. It is iconic like many logos, but without context, there is no way to know what it stands for. Personally, I don't think, that it is bad to have something like that. You can point that it was inspired by 1920 stylistic. What would point to the current age in distant future? Pepe memes?

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>'i dont emotionaly like it', is valid criteria for evaluating art

you wot m8

>>3042476
Art doesn't mean anything, you retard. Anything is a valid criticism

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>>3039315

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Linda Donohue

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>>3043197
idk what it is about these paintings thats so comfy.

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>>3032763
>toot toot

>>3042793
would fuck the head while she watched

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>>3043318

>>3042713
>This is what participation award culture does to art criticism

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>>3043318

>>3028602
Art < art with porn in it

>>3030031
love paintings like this,
they're melancholy and somber.

>>3031509
stuff like this is like a long-exposure color photograph or film, it's pretty and I like looking at old scenes on streets (like that san-francisco street video)

>>3030084
love the way light, clouds/smoke are played with here, looks like a ww2 air-raid, though I imagine it was made long before airplanes were a thing,

>>3045636
>Queen:shh.. I thought I heard something
>Dragon: Babe it's probably noth-oh fuck
>King:Proceed

Where is a good place to find high detail scans/copies of art in digital format?
It's mainly for wallpapers

>>3039604
Considering he's using the sickle sword its probably perseus.

>>3046038
Wikiart or Wikimedia. There's also a torrent on /t/ with high res art from the old masters.

>>3040869
that just looks like a generic scifi computer/hologram projection. is 'kind of cool looking' an emotion?