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Why did it take so long for Russia to abolish serfdom? 2017-07-01 09:45:28 Post No. 3023489
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Why did it take so long for Russia to abolish serfdom?
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It seems weird how Russia only abandoned the concept in 1861. What convinced the Tzars that it was a good idea? Did they see no point in changing it, even though industrialization was growing rampant? Did they not see the potential in how it could affect their economy?
Why did the Russian westernizer Peter The Great not assess the situation? He wanted Russia to be more western, but somehow overlooked the serfdom problem in Russia, why's that?
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>>3023489
It should've never been abolished, everything went to shit since.
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>>3023489
The Tsars knew from 18th century that serfdom is shit. Even the hyper-conservative Nicholas I was conscious that serfdom is bad on all levels.
The problem was that the stability of Russian empire was dependent on the support of nobility and the church. Autocracy in Russia was built with the tacit agreement that the Tsars will leave the nobles and clerics alone in doing whatever the fuck they want.
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>>3023510
>The problem was that the stability of Russian empire was dependent on the support of nobility and the church.
Ah, that is interesting, so in a sense it was sort of like the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, where the nation heavily relied on giving Noblemen priviliges to not go apeshit (Much like the Targowica confederation)? When was this idea of noblemen implemented? Right after Ivan IV came as the ruler of all Russians? Or did it even precede the very state of Russia?
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>>3023518
>hen was this idea of noblemen implemented? Right after Ivan IV came as the ruler of all Russians? Or did it even precede the very state of Russia?
It was developing over time, so you can't pinpoint the exact moment. However, there is correlation between the usurpations in Russian history and the worsening of the peasant's lot. It seems that each time a new government was buying support from the nobles by curbing the rights of the peasants.
- mid 15th century, just when Vasil II accedes to his father's throne, in violation of the old Rus' succession system in which his uncle should succeed.
- early 17th century, just when the Romanov dynasty came to power, ignoring the remaining Rurikid lines.
- late 18th century, when Catherine the Great usurped the throne from her husband.
If anything, Ivan IV's terror did much to disrupt the nobility's grip so it gave the peasants a brief respite.
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>>3023489
Catherine wanted a nice dress to ride her horsies with so she widened the gap between rich and poor after she killed her son who was a progressive dude
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