Early Man

>>3021956
man did shit like that actually happen?

GAS THE SIMIANS
MONKEY BUSINESS NOW

>>3021960
I mean, do animals ever attack humans they see as encroaching on their territory today?

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>>3021960
Given that they lived in such close proximity, probably

>>3021956
>dat pic
>just another argument on 4chan

>>3021956
>ywn be a hairy rock-throwing primate
Why live?

>>3022654
Ya, Turks have all the luck

>>3022658
>primate
I think you mean insect

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>>3022557

>>3022925
top kek

>>3022925
kek

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>>3021973

>>3022925
make the labels bigger and more clear especially /sci/ and label the crowd of retreating simians in the background as reddit

>>3021956
>REEEEEEEEEEEE SAPIENS GET OUT

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>>3022925
TOPPEST OF KEKS

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>>3021956
>black

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>>3022925
Well done lad.

>>3021956
The earth decides who is right or wrong by who passes down their genes and who doesn't.

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>>3022925
Fixed

>>3022925
should be /lit/ not /sci/

>>3021956
Jesus this really hits a nerve. Imagine the terror of being outnumbered by more primative, yet stronger creatures almost like yourself but not evolved enough to engage in 'diplomacy'. No wonder it took so long to get out of Africa.

>>3022925
The kind of quality I come here for. Well done.

>>3023138
fuck off /lit/
/sci/ is smarter than you

>>3023213
But there are plenty of /lit/ colonist on /his/ and not many from /sci/

>>3023213
Last time I went to /sci/ it was all high school tier 'meh'

Not saying /lit/ is better, just saying we're the best.

>>3021956
This looks cool. A game like this would be great with VR and ultra-sensible technology.

>>3023384
>just saying we're the best.
Really says a lot about the quality of 4Chan, doesn't it?

>>3023744
If you don't like it leave.

>>3023752
Mah m8 I love this place. I might recognise that it's cancer, but it's my cancer.

>>3023138
You're right, /sci/ actually know what they are talking about.

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>>3022944
here ya go

Daily reminder that human mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosome diverge from Chimps at different times.
That means proto-Humans fucked Chimp pussy 4 million years ago.

Me on the left.

>>3024247
They cannot have been very different back then, though. Reproduction is only possible within the same species.

Man, open landscapes and primitive life looks so surreal ,dangerous and comfy at the same time. Imagine the absolute freedom you had, you could kill and go wherever the fuck you wanted,all nude and unrestrained, breathing all that pure air and dying from some injury in a matter of seconds.

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>>3022925
>/his/ ACTUALLY thinks they're intelligent

I need more pics like this, prehistoric ones with landscapes

tHEN YOU BETTER START GOOGLING, FUCKFACE

>>3024271
Smarter than the dumb frogposters who came here in 2015.

>>3024252
Neanderthals, Denisovans, and humans could all interbreed with each other, and they were at the breaking point of fertility.

>>3023041
Why is that little man's leg crawling with flies or some shit?

>>3024271
Hi /int/

>>3024330
I think might be ticks

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>>3024289
you're not even smarter than a nigger. you're the living definition of a pseud

>>3021956
it's africa today.

>>3024253
>dying from some injury in a matter of seconds
i'd die horribly from infection or rotten teeth in my 20s if i could live like that. would be worth it.

>>3021956
why would naked people stop having hair on their bodies?

>>3024289
>Humans could all interbreed with each other
Yes, members of the genus homo could, but the offspring was infertile. The definition of a species is the fact that two individuals can produce fertile offspring. Claiming that "proto-Humans fucked Chimp pussy" doesn't make sense, assuming our ancestors didn't have some weird animal fetish.

>>3024583
Sorry, the offspring of our ancestors and Neanderthals was fertile, assuming that the Neanderthals were Homo sapiens (though some scientist believe they weren't members of our species).

>>3021960
I'm sure. There were likely several hominid species (we only know of a few) living contemporaneously. There had to have been wars and conflict; there was certainly interbreeding too. Imagine the countless stories that must have occurred; now forever lost to time.

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>>3024359
cucked by stormfront- a /pol/ story

>>3024435
atheists conveniently ignoring this

so did homo sapiens genocide are the other homos?

are we the bad guys?

>>3024603
There's disagreement if they were a full species of genus homo or a subspecies of sapiens

>>3024685
Yes, that's what I was trying to say.
>>3024672
Back than it was very much survival of the fittest, probably impossible to determine how different hominids interacted with eachother

>>3024330
i like the aquatic ape theory the most and it sort of makes sense.

>>3024719
meant for >>3024435

>>3024719
maybe fire would also make sense

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>>3024667
sick non-post /b/ro! try again

>>3021956

>all those ticks on the lower legs

that really triggers me and i'm sure it would trigger the person concerned.

Sorry to rain on your parade but this is the /his/ board, not the /pre-his/ board

>>3023193

>Imagine the terror of being outnumbered by more primative, yet stronger creatures almost like yourself but not evolved enough to engage in 'diplomacy'.

That's how whites feel all the time.

>>3024726
loosing the fur because it's to warm running around the savanna in a winter coat? yes absolutely

>>3024738
it's how blacks felt when they were slaves and then second class citizens who got lynched in the USA.

>>3024752
plenty of warm climate animals have fur

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>>3021960
Yeah, Paranthropicus Bosei and Homo erectus lived at the same time

>>3024937
but not sweat glands.

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>>3024975

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>>3024981
another reconstroction

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>>3024975
>, Paranthropicus Bosei
wtf why have I never heard of this thing before

>>3024359
Jokes on you meme man, I AM a nigger?

>>3024738
>whites
>not primitive

Asians are your superiors.

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>>3024975
>no Heidelbergensis

>>3025015
*!

>>3024980
monkeys don't have sweat glands? also why don't we sweat out our tongues then?

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>>3025031
Usually they were just lumped into Erectus until recently.

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>>3024975
I think they were meant to be "advanced australopithecus" (homo habilis) going off of the book.

Do you guys believe in dawkins meme theory

>>3024583

>infertile

No but they had low fertility or numerous health problems.
If Human-Neanderthal offpsring was infertile Eurasians wouldn't have 2-3% Neanderthal admixture right now.

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Not homini (unlike Paranthropus Bosei), but Gigantopithecus went extinct just 100k years ago, so there might have also been some fights.

>>3025173
>Eurasians have 2-3% Neanderthal admixture right now
sauce please, if that was undoubtetly the case there would be no debate on whether the Neanderthals were Homo sapiens or not...

>>3025180

Chimps have been known to rape frogs

I could imagine a Giganto raping an Erectus or Floresiensis looking quite similar

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>>3025180
>Peking Man and Nellie probably saw the last of these things
>you never will

>>3025190

It's like asking a source for the periodic table of elements. Fucking Google it.

>>3025199
Very nice of you, but I think you're wrong: http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.0020421

>>3022654
But you are a hairy rock-throwing primate

>>3025220

>2004

Yes that was the prevailing view at the time which has since changed. It's an extremely well known and well reported thing that Eurasians have Neanderthal admixture. All you have to do is Google it.

>>3025230
I've never thrown a rock in my life.

>>3024289
/his/ was founded in 2015

>>3022925
too good to be true

>>3025241
The throwing of rocks has been replaced by online shit flinging. But a hairy primate nonetheless.

>>3024641
>500,000 years ago
>It's evening
>A hunter band relaxes
>There's the whine of an infant
>the rhythmic shik-shik-shik of wood on stone, a spear being sharpened
>the scent of zebra meat cooking on hot coals
>It has been a hard day
>The band had been both hands and a finger that morning
>Now only one hand and some fingers
>The strange ones had attacked again
>They held them back, but barely
>"Brother gone." said a little one.
>His father chokes, but holds back his tears.
>"Yes."
>The little one sulks.
>"All us gone in awhile."
>"No!" said the father. "We kill. We win."
>He knew in the end, they would beat these squat, big-headed freaks.
>The homo erectus examined his spear point. "We win."

>>3024975
>>3025152

Why did homo habilis die out?

>>3021956

>Males fighting
>Females running away with children

pretty sexist

>>3025233
Seems like you're right.

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>>3022925

>>3025293
In biology class I learned that habilis was pretty small and weak, he probably only ate bone marrow of carcasses since he was unable to compete with the scavengers of the African savanna. Homo erectus on the other hand was larger and more muscular, so he was probably able to assert himself better in that environment.

>>3025290
To be fair, I think it was more likely that erectus were the assholes who attacked their peaceful retarded cousins

>>3025241
do you not have any arms?

>>3025031
Also no florensis

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>>3025293
Outcompeted by its descendants, probably.

>>3025409
>dat homo habilis to homo erectus transition
where did everything go so right

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>>3025308
Considering their females were about 2/3 the size of the males, that was probably for the best.
https://anthropology.net/2007/12/02/sexual-dimorphism-social-behavior-of-paranthropus-robustus/amp/

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>>3025424
Eh, they were probably a bit smaller (about 5'4" average), but probably the plains opening up gave the long legged ones an advantage over their chimp-proportioned ancestors/relatives.

>>3025025
>t. Chen

>>3025424
GOMAD

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>>3023744
>4Chan

>>3025409
>>3025424

Habilis did not have descendants though

>>3025195
/x/ will say it's bigfoot

>>3025409
I found this about relations between h. habilis and h. erectus

> But those two earlier species lived side-by-side about 1.5 million years ago in parts of Kenya for at least half a million years, Leakey and colleagues report in a paper published in Thursday’s journal London. The two species lived near each other, but probably didn’t interact with each other, each having their own “ecological niche,” Spoor said.
Homo habilis was likely more vegetarian and Homo erectus ate some meat, he said. Like chimps and gorillas, “they’d just avoid each other, they don’t feel comfortable in each other’s company,” he said.

Sounds plausible, though there is still some speculations. Homo did not necessarily behave like modern apes.

>>3025424

habilis did not evolve into erectus; the two have a common ancestor though

>>3021956
Never forget the Great Monkey War of 2 million BC.

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>>3025470
>LD 350-1 is a fossil jawbone fragment discovered in 2013, which has been dated to 2.8 million years ago and argued to be intermediate between Australopithecus and H. habilis.
This seems to indicate that Habilis is the older of the two, meaning that erectus most likely descended from an older group of habilis.

>>3025538

see >>3024975

Both erectus and habilis descend from Australopithecus Afarensis, but erectus is not descended from habilis

We killed off the superior neanderthals because we are warlike and love the pussy.

Homo sapiens sapiens was a mistake.

>>3025552
If they were so superior they wouldn't have been killed off.

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>>3025547
>homo rudolfensis

>>3025552
I heard opinion that Neanderthals were cannibals, but I very sad for having head less than ancient Neanderthal had

>>3025561
Big amount of weak and stupid creatures can easy kill small amount of strong and smart creatures. This is real life. This is not myth of Sparta (in real history of Sparta was additional militia don't included in Sparta myth).

>>3025576
That's a different interpretation but it agrees with the other pic that erectus is not descended from habilis.

>>3025561
Rats genociding humans with plague doesnt make them superior.

>>3025599

The Cro-Magnon Saps that Neaderthals knew in Europe had brains of absolutely equal capacity as them and larger than modern Humans.

Cro-Mags were of course mixed. They had the best sides of both Saps and Neanders.

Neanderthals lost to an improved version of themselves that they could in no way compete with.


Note: these Aurignacian Cro-Magnons don't have living descendants

>>3025585
We were also cannibals.

>>3021956
>1965 Detroit dot jaypeg

>>3024738
Hit the nail on the head.
I was about to post that myself.

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>>3025616
But that's the thing, the Ledi Jaw shows a very striking similarity to homo habilis, as opposed to erectus, meaning that habilis would be the older of the two. That means that while the ancestor of erectus wasn't the groups of habilis that lived at the same time, they share a common ancestor that was, for all intents and purposes, habilis.

>>3025470
>An alternative explanation would be that any ancestral relationship from H. habilis to H. erectus would have to have been cladogenetic rather than anagenetic (meaning that if an isolated subgroup population of H. habilis became the ancestor of H. erectus, other subgroups remained as unchanged H. habilis until their much later extinction).

>>3024801
>more primitive

>>3025424
It's called punctuated equilibrium.

>>3025045
We don't have to cool off via our tongues because of the sweat glands. It lets our entire body be a cooling surface instead of just one point. And it also allows us to stay cool while running, while most animals have to stop to pant once they are overheated.
The only problem is that this is a very water-intensive strategy because of the sheer amount of fluids sweating expends.

>>3025552
Niggas didn't have those running hips man, their pelvises weren't made for long distance running like ours.
Wasn't a problem in a highly forested environment where they could ambush shit, but as the plains opened up, they just couldn't compete, especially once we figured out throwing spears and atlatls.

>>3021956

Paleolithic Total War when?

I have always thought that all of mankind legends about elfs, trolls, giants, dwarves, gremlins, etc. come from the last interactions between the already intelligent homo sapiens population and the last populations of neanderthals, erectus, etc.

I just wish we could know the truth.

>>3025552
The occipital bun and remnant tools (or lack thereof) very strongly suggest Neanderthals had weaker abstract or perhaps verbal intelligence, but greater visual ability. Nothing yet suggests we bred out intellectually superior hominids.

>>3025946
Wouldn't surprise me

>>3021956
Imagine the screeching and grunting going on there

>>3026368
no need to imagine, just take a ride on the PATH train

>>3025193
I invoke Rule 34!

>>3024735
It is in line with the 20 years rule fuck off

>>3021956
Do it again Hairy Mbamba

>>3025248
I meant here as in 4chan.

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>not being homo perfectus

>>3025290
>He knew in the end, they would beat these squat, big-headed freaks.

You mean Homo heidelbergensis? Yeah, they're fucked. Possibly literally.

>>3025576
>ergaster
>separate species

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Homo naledi was best early Homo

>Possibly buried the dead despite having a hilariously small brain by our standards
>has traits like humans (brain, hands, feet) but also apes (hips and upper chest)
>was thought to be 2 million years old at the most likely but the remains were potentially as young as 236,000 years old

Recommended reading on this subject?

>>3026558
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

>>3026558
https://www.amazon.com/Things-Fall-Apart-Chinua-Achebe/dp/0385474547/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498959658&sr=8-1&keywords=things+fall+apart

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>>3026525
Habilines ftw

>>3026558
https://www.amazon.com/First-Humans-Vertebrate-Paleobiology-Paleoanthropology/dp/1402099797

>>3025241
You're not human.

>>3025193
Yes, monkeys are raping French people

>>3025241
t. urbancuck

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>>3026662
>be me
>suburbfag, but look more at home in a museum
>have a raccoon problem (little monsters coming out in broad daylight)
>chase the little bastard up a tree, chucking rocks the whole way
>attempt to hit it to make it leave
>can't land a single throw

>>3025195

and thank christ for that. Though it would be cool.

Are there any movies about these times? Besides Ice Age and 10k BC?

>>3021960
Probably not.

A naked ape is no threat to thick fur covered ape of similar size.

Chances are early humanoids would have instead capitalized on intellectual war. Using sophisticated tools or traps/devices to trick. Maybe fire to scare others.

They would likely never go head to head when they have huge disadvantage.

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>>3026711
A few documentaries, like:
>Walking with Cavemen (preferably the orignal British version, unless you're a fan of Baldwin)
>A Species Odyssey (preferably the English dub on youtube, as the dailymotion dub is garbage)
>Dawn of Humanity
>The Human Animal ep.2, "The Hunting Ape"
All of them are a bit dated.

>>3026451
I meant homo sapiens. It's my understanding that homo erectus was taller and lankier than early man with heads slightly, but noticeably smaller in relation to their bodies making homo sapiens appear like "squat big-headed freaks" in comparison. Identifying the species at the end was supposed to be a reveal and suggest that they would not, in fact, win.

>>3026711
>>3026742
Quest for Fire is an amazing film regardless of accuracy

Clan of the Cave Bear is a good fiction book about this

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>>3026753
Then there's this weird shit.
https://youtu.be/FZ65yIih5Zk

>>3026753
Yeah that was good stuff.

I really wish HBO makes a mini series about cro magnids wiping out Neanderthals one day.

>>3026761
https://youtu.be/LqtzuV2ptMs

>>3026761
Woah I forgot about this one. Thanks anon I'm going to torrent it now last time I saw it I was 7.

>>3026592
lol fucking dick

There is a very GOOD book called "the neanderthal rediscovered" you should all go read it

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>>3025180

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>>3025402
> ywn hunt tasty komodo dragons with your bros

>>3025180
>my ancestor :)

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>>3025585
>I heard opinion that Neanderthals were cannibals

Unlike humans, who have a long history of cannibalism among many societies right up to the present, evidence of cannibalism among Neanderthals is few and far between and was probably due to starvation conditions and not ritual or habit.

>>3025622
I thought they were haplogroup I?

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>>3025956
>The occipital bun and remnant tools (or lack thereof) very strongly suggest Neanderthals had weaker abstract or perhaps verbal intelligence, but greater visual ability. Nothing yet suggests we bred out intellectually superior hominids.

I read somewhere that while Neanderthals would eat salmon, there are strangely very few salmon bones found in their middens, suggesting that Neanderthals couldn’t grasp the concept that the salmon would be running roughly around the same time every year.

Instead, it appears Neanderthals only ate salmon if that happened to come across them at the right time.

>>3025290
More of these please

>>3024996
this guy approaches your cave to fuck your wife....what do you do??

>>3027085
put my fingers in his nostrils

>>3025409
>manlets btfo in non-existence
when will they learn?

>>3027001
>poor little homo sapian guy

>>3027117
Lol'd

>>3025409
Mfw steven Seagal is the pinnacle of our evolution

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>>3025946
Homo Florensis inspired legends of hobbit-like creatures in Indonesia

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebu_gogo

>The Nage people of Flores describe the Ebu Gogo as having been able walkers and fast runners around 1.5 m tall. They reportedly had wide and flat noses, broad faces with large mouths and hairy bodies. The females also had "long, pendulous breasts".[2] They were said to have murmured in what was assumed to be their own language and could reportedly repeat what was said to them in a parrot-like fashion. [3]

>The discovery of the remains of a meter-tall hominid on Flores Homo floresiensis, alive perhaps as recently as 13,000 years ago (though a 2016 study suggests 50,000 years),[7] has inspired more literal interpretations of the Ebu Gogo stories. Anthropologist Gregory Forth, Professor of Anthropology at the University of Alberta, Canada has stated that "wildman" myths are prevalent in Southeast Asia and has investigated their linguistic and ritual roots, speculating that H. floresiensis may be evidence that the folktales of Ebu Gogo and similar creatures such as the Orang Pendek on Sumatra may be cultural memories rooted in fact.

This is a surprisingly good thread for /his/.

>>3027236
>This is a surprisingly good thread for /his/.

Put on a filter for "Hitler," "WWII," "Jews," and "Holocaust." It makes /his/ a lot better.

>>3027236

sounds like something a faggot would say

>>3027213
>>3027011
>ywn have hobbit stores written about you, literally slaying dragons and mating the remake with the hairest, saggiest tits in your tribe.

>>3026761
It was amazing . Laughed my ass off

>>3022925
>no /tv/

>>3024603
Well not completely, pretty much all the Neanderthal DNA in humans today comes from female Neanderthals which means that male Neanderthals likely were not able to produce viable offspring with human females.

>>3024406
You can you pussy.

>>3027527
I read the opposite, actually. Apparently no mitochondrial DNA of Neanderthals was found in modern humans, which means that we likely have no female Neanderthal ancestors (mitochondrial DNA is passed on by the mother).

>>3027485
too busy caveposting to come to the rock fight

>>3025622
They would have still had to interact with non-mixed homos before their were cro-mags and their is really no evidence to suggest Neanderthals were ever more intelligent than homos at all so the brain size argument is pretty pointless.

>>3027560
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/04/modern-human-females-and-male-neandertals-had-trouble-making-babies-here-s-why

>>3027560
You are right.
>>3027578
This is also true.

The only possible combination was

female human + male neanderthal = female offspring

Everything else was either infertile or died out.

>>3021956
Was that the first Rockney Koong riots?

>>3025637
>thinking Detroit was a shithole before the 70s
How much of an idiot are you?

>>3021956
That's a great image, what's the source?
The more ape-like hominids swinging basic rocks around as weapon, without much coordination, and with primal rage, while the more sophisticated, hairless hominids appear more calm and controlled, with their sharpened stones as weapons.

>>3027527
>>3027560

No Neanderthal Y-chromosomes have been found either and never will be. There was some reason why they weren't passed on related to selection.
Uniparentals from 55-60k years ago are irrelevant anyway. Because of bottlenecking and founder effects most people carry haplogroups which became frequent only some thousands of years ago.

>>3026749
I guess these Homo erectus people would be more realistically in Asia, meeting modern humans for the first time. Apparently, erectus was extinct in Africa at the time.

>>3026742
>>3026753
>>3026760
>>3026761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65tkjZRG2V0

This talks about the very first Homo sapiens to successfully leave Africa arriving in South Asia for the first time, encountering an Asian subspecies of Homo erectus. It's somewhat terrifying. There's another part but it's in Dailymotion, this times it features humans clashing with Neanderthals.

http://www.pbs.org/show/first-peoples/

This entire mini-series talks about the origins of every race on the planet, the archaic human DNA we picked up along the way (including Africa), and the theory that instead of just evolving in one place in East Africa, we evolved all over the continent. It's extremely interesting.

>>3023193

Humans used their intelligence and tool making wits to fuck up anything they came across.

>>3024738

Whites are proven to actually be stronger muscle mass wise, which is what matters.

>>3024738
>diplomacy
>eurangutans literally backstabbed everyone even their own kind during the """"""""conquest""""""""" of America
Sure thing, chimp.

>>3024435
It's not like one day it just stopped appearing. There was most likely sexual selection involved, as hair still appeared on the head, around the genitals and armpits. This would signal fertility, so if there's grass on the patch, play on.

Males (at least, real men) of course retain hair on their chests, back, appendages, etc. Which would also signal lots of testosterone.

Could also have been less important with the knowledge of fire (pre-homo sapiens), or some other genetic selection pressures coincidentally reduced the strength of body hair (it exists everywhere except the palms, soles and mucous membranes, it's just tiny)

>>3025622

Larger brain size does not equal more intelligence, infact it may state the opposite.

>>3027967

I don't care whether it does or not although it seems to have some correlation all things considered.

The whole idea of Neanderthal supremacy that 4chinner cuckers love so much is based on little except them having larger cranial capacity compared to modern humans. Cro-Magnons having not just equally large brains but also a proven record of creativity which is something Neanderthals didn't leave behind any proof of kills the cucker fantasy.

>>3024975
Anyone have a visual where all 'fleshed-out' hominids and early ape-ancestors are lined up?

>>3027985

Oh yes I know, I hate that whole "Lel Neanderthal supremacy" meme too, I was just covering an argument for future reference.

>>3027967
Chance get more intelligence with larger brain is high, but in modern civilization intelligence do not matter, you can be stupid as monkey and get job in place where used very low level of intelligence: as waiter or cash register, or driver, or loader, etc

>>3027931
*West European whites

Fixed. That's like saying Africans are fast, when it's only West African/West African descended people who run extremely fast while sprinting.

>>3028049

Are you retarded or American?

Western Europeans except Icelanders are known to be weak. The strongest men in the world tend to be from the Baltic countries and Iceland, and although you could say Western Europeans are just too lazy to win anything, that doesn't cut it because they can't be thousands of times lazier.

>>3028043
I hope English is your second language.

>>3021956
strength, fast running, all this do not matter in modern evolution, this don't help get more wives and money for feeding family. Even at war, eyesight and a gun matter much more than strenght

>>3028067
>Western Europeans except Icelanders are known to be weak

Source?

>>3028076
He's probably talking about World's Strongest Man where a number of champions come from Iceland but the best guys recently have been from Eastern Europe.

This ignores that the guy with the current world record in deadlift is English and that many Americans (who are predominately from Western Europe) have also done well.

>>3028069
Complaints allowed only from people who know more that one native language, unlike an Australian Aborigine skill.

>>3028083

Eddie Hall lost Europe's Strongest Man 2017 to The Mountain from Iceland though.
Either way, it's ridiculous to claim that Western Europeans are particularly strong compared to others except maybe Southern Europeans.

Humans have always been around. Neanderthals are just an extinct species of ape. There has always been one type of human but the Haplogroups are real.

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Fun thread.
>>3027578
>>3027560
>>3027598
Interesting something I did not know. What do we know about the denisovans?
>>3023041
Best version.

>>3027001
>this guy comes up and slaps your gf's ass
>what do?

>>3028494
Not die out

My own personal and totally amateur theory about why did we evolve to have little body hair is this:

You know how aggresive human really are isnt it? Well now imagine a much more aggresive and stupidier human. Can you imagine the first thing he did when he lost his fear of fire and started wielding the first burning branch? Yeah, thats right. He smashed the alpha male in the head with it. What happened to that poor guy? His entire bodyhair bursted in flames and he died the next day from shock from his second degree burns.
What happened to the species as this new technology spread? A new natural selection started happening. Very hairy apes died from being hit with burning branches. Not so hairy apes just got a little burn. Thick body hair was now a liability.

What do you think?

>>3028573

No because that's the least efficient way to attack someone. Rocks or branches that aren't burning do much more DPS and require no setup.

>>3028588

Have you ever one of those videos where a dog or a cat accidentaly touch a candle and they just burst in flames? Without a human nearby to throw water on them, they would die.
Maybe it required some setup, like keeping an eternal flame going on for the tribe, but it was a super weapon as long as the rival was hairy.

>>3028573
I think it's far less probable than the theories of humans evolving without body air to better resist warm temperatures and parasites such as lice.

Fur is an excellent home to any biting insects especially ticks, and these vermins can inoculate you with any sort of prehistoric disease that'd kill an adult within a couple weeks

>>3028628
>Have you ever one of those videos where a dog or a cat accidentaly touch a candle and they just burst in flames?
No, and that's not how it works. Hair burns rather poorly. Unless you douse the dog in petrol, it won't burn to death after touching a candle. Same with humans, you need to put a lot of hair spray into your hair to make it burn easily.

My teacher touched her hair to a flame and only the part that was in the flame burned off.

>>3028073
Modern evolution? Agricultural revolution happened 10K years ago. That's a blink of the eye in evolutionary terms. Anatomically modern humans existed for 20 times as long.

>>3028573
This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on here that wasn't an attempt at trolling.

>>3028825
>10k years ago

no one is this stupid...

>All these species of Homo sapiens

Did each species have different ethnicities within that species ? Like different ethnicities today?

>>3024435
Have you ever seen how a dog fairs in the sun?

My own personal and totally amateur theory about why did we evolve to have little body hair is this: artificial selection. Women preferred less hair men. Men preferred less hair women.
Also, in our days it's work too. Hairy women have less chances be married.

>>3026716
I know apes are stronger than us, but isn't our use of weapons still superior?

I think the OP image is supposed to imply that even though the apes are stronger, early man is winning the fight because they are holding the rocks like weapons, instead of the apes who seem to have less coordination and weapons control over their rocks. Like I'm imagining they shittily throw or try to hit with their rocks, whereas man would use theirs more effectively with acccirate strikes or stabs

>>3027914
Christ this bbc documentary is we wuz as fuck.

>>3028913
Actually on second thought they've done a brilliant job with casting. These are very 'white' looking blacks. Probably got plantationed back in the day.

>>3028104
Humans are apes dumbass

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>>3025620
Uhhhhhh....

>>3028836
Okay Einstein, when were plants first domesticated on a large scale?

>>3028955
checked

the 2 agricultural revolutions were the in the 16-1700s and the 1970s respectively, unless we are calling the inception of agronomy a revolution. sorry for being pedantic on the History board.

>>3025241
Did you not have a childhood? We were flinging rocks at each other all the time as kids.

>>3022925
Saved

Great one.

>>3024359
Stormfront fucked you in the ass while the leader of your site is into race mixing with asian.

Talk about irony.

>>3028913
>>3028940
>>3028913
>>3028940
Well, the earliest humans to meet Neanderthals and Erectus probably looked African to a degree. Not modern Africans like Nigerians and Ethiopians, but still dark skinned. I don't get what you saw originally before you changed your mind what was so "we wuz" about it, considering Europeans didn't exist until around 45,000 years ago. It took a further 35,000 to 40,000 for Europeans to finally lose their dark skin, though that's not to say that ancient Europeans couldn't have blue eyes or red hair.

>>3024738
I will feel bad among redneck too buddy.

>>3027985
>>3028043
Studies from 2015 proved that brain size do not affect all intelligence, also, the correlation is only 0.2, pretty weak.

>>3028983
Shit, didn't mean to quote twice. Sorry!

>>3028972
I thought it was a Jewish chick.

>>3029099
Meant for >>3028981

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>>3029107
This faggot is a pedophile.

This thread reminds me of 2001: A Space Odyssey

>>3029128
>15
>pedophile

>>3028550
Kek'd

>>3029145
>Taking advantage of a child

>>3028963
The Neolithic revolution is often called the agricultural revolution, dumbass

>>3028913
>>3028940
Early Homo sapiens would have looked like Africans because they lived in the same kind of environment. The first European and Asian Homo sapiens would have looked like Africans

>>3022925
saved

>>3028494
Fashion bows and arrows and snipe off his entire family.

>>3026716
>Chances are early humanoids would have instead capitalized on intellectual war. Using sophisticated tools or traps/devices to trick. Maybe fire to scare others.

Humans were originally feral retards meaning they would beat other humans by swarming them not using traps or smart tactics because they are too fucking stupid to do that. Only Eurasian DESCENT humans had the intelligence needed to make use of that in tribal warfare.

>>3027931
>Humans used their intelligence
>Humans
>intelligence

HAHAHAHHA

Since humans were in Africa 200,000 years ago it means we are actually one of the stupid fucks of our genus. The intelligent hominids were the ones that evolved in Europe like Neanderthal or Asia like the Denisova. Notice the most subhuman and apish looking NONHUMAN hominids are found near Africa and tropical parts of the earth as well.

>>3029597

Sapiens had larger breeding groups than Neanderthals which resulted in a lower genetic load which correlates with a higher IQ.

>>3022925
>implying /his/ isn't /pol/

>>3021956
I'd pay to watch that

>>3023193
Go around a hood or a villa and you would totally feel that

>>3023213
/sci/ is filled with DUDE SCIENCE LMAO reddit-types. There is nothing of value on that board.

>>3027028
>trust no one, not even ugh-self

>>3025409
>My head is shapped just like the homo neandertal
Everything makes sense now

>>3029913
There is a case to be made against both boards
I go on /lit/ more as /his/ or /sci/ because I like to read but don't like the board's culture
Too much of /lit/ revolves around signaling literary status instead of reading for enjoyment or a motivation to understand

>>3029597
And the Award for Most Retarded Comment goes to...

...you.

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>>3030005
It'll be ok, anon.

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>>3025585
All omnivorous apes (including homo and more primitive relations) have some evidence of cannibalism. As another anon stated, neanderthal cannibalism seems pretty rare, so we can probably assume it was due to starvation. Human cannibalism is relatively rare, but more common than in neanderthals.

Homo antecessor seems to have been pretty kookoo for homopuffs. Among Spanish finds, the frequent evidence of de-fleshing marks on limb bones and skulls would suggest they were eating their own (likely already dead?) on a routine basis. However, it is not clear if this was part of inter-group conflict, a starvation scenario, part of funerary practice, or simple opportunism to not let flesh go to waste. They were definitely homo, might have had simple communication, but still quite primitive.

It is still not clear where H. Antecessor fits in on the homo-tree. Either another blind alley, or could be two-steps removed ancestors of Neanderthals. They were most definitely H. Erectus descendants in any case.

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>tfw you will live to 82 and human evolution will be still a massive jigsaw puzzle with 85% of the pieces missing
>tfw there will never be a comprehensive model of wtf happened

>>3022552
i mean i'm just here to question things, but that looks like it could have been carved from stone by an expert stonemason, and someone put a convincing sign behind it.

bigger hoaxes have been pulled throuout history, such as the trojan horse, and getting kings to fund alchemists so they can live in the castle

>>3027914
Fucking pbs begging for money even online

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>>3027560
That's because male neanderthals raped and hunted our ancestors. If a male homo sapien tried to mate with a female neanderthal he would've been killed

>>3030627
I have seen this a lot of times, do you have any source to back-up?

>>3030499
Anything to back that up, m8?

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>>3030657
*blocks your path*

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>>3030657
Nothing, save for your standard "the scientists have it ALL WRONG, and here's why" schlock.

>>3028094
And the memetain lost the world's strongest man 2017 to THE BEAST
WSM>yuropes strongest man

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>>3030672
>neanderthals were upright killer chimpanzees
What's it called when your idea calls for a regression of this proportion?

>>3029913
Confirmed non /sci/ poster

Gb2 your feminist poems on r/lit

>>3030689
Liberalism

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>>3030672
http://www.evoanth.net/2015/05/25/them-and-us-predatory-neanderthals-hunted-humans/

>>3030499
>trojan horse
>historical

>>3026702
you've shamed your ancestors

>>3030747
im glad someone said it

>>3023213
not that I necessarily disagree but something something sun made of ice you know the rest

>>3024330
Africa

>>3027965
>Males (at least, real men) of course retain hair on their chests, back, appendages, etc.
found the brown man

>>3030792
>shitposting
I like "x destroyed x culture", race, IQ, "x fear the x warrior", white burden circlejerk threads too.

You are just a young board. /sci/ got invaded by ignorants because goot doesn't want to make a math captcha.

>>3024583
>assuming our ancestors didn't have some weird animal fetish
have you studied pre-history, ancient history, or even present-day humans?

>>3027965
Aquatic ape theory suggests how it could be a non sexual selection pressure, but you have to accept that ancient humans chilled in puddles all day

>>3026421
https://youtu.be/n5sD3dyBUqo

>>3029913
>>3030698
both are shit, leftist, plebbit tier

>>3024738
>>3029904
ugh /pol/ plebbs need to gtfo!!!1
science proves its just economic / education disparity!

>>3029568
>Eurasian

So tribal fucks like the Onge are superior to the West African Fulani? Kill yourself.

>>3030815
White/Caucasian people are the hairiest humans on the planet, the hell are you talking about?

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>>3030937

>>3031130
Kinda proves my point, Middle Easterners are Caucasians, and their closest relatives that aren't in deserts (South Euros) are also hairy. That reminds me, why are Middle Easterners still hairy, but the Africans who live in deserts (Nilo-Saharans) aren't, unless they're part Berber?

>>3031130
why are vikings so hairy?

>>3021956
Lucy, that whore was totally asking for it.

>>3031694
temperature + virility desires.

>>3031750
But they're the only ones that far north with so much hair.

Is it possible that they wuz Mediterraneans?

>>3031769
maybe. they are significantly farther north than any other complex civilization. Remember, nords are the downs syndrome kid that somehow became the manager of a Car Wash. without any real complex intellectual or governance measures, they spread their masterseed far and wide... and they built the boats that made them kangs, unlike a different group that spread by ocean travel.

>>3031130
Ainu are Caucasians, too. They were called Emishi = 毛人, which literally means "hairy people".

>>3031843
The hobbits?

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>>3025180
>manlets, when will they learn.

>>3031130
>>3030815
Swedish and British, mixed.

>>3030627
If you think your pic is how Neanderthals looked, I'm not even gonna ask for some kind of proof on that claim.

>>3025180
Mirin
No homi

>>3022925
replace his with lit and replace /b/ with /his/

>>3031130
I thought Native American were much less hairy

>>3031851
hehe
This delusion.

>>3025152
>mfw I have that whole series of books from when I was a kid

>>3021960
yeah, and it needs to be a movie

>>3031851
They aren't Caucasian, they're related to Southeast Asians and look like pale Abbos.

>>3032419
I don't think this list is native populations only for the Americas and Australia. When was the last time you see a full Native American with a beard, let alone a full one?

>>3032102
Kek

>>3026525
why does it look asian?

>>3028550
ohh snap!

>>3029268
>15
>child

>>3026525
>>was thought to be 2 million years old at the most likely but the remains were potentially as young as 236,000 years old
Damn they got really old

>>3028076
>except Icelanders

t. game of thrones enthusiast

>>3027937
>""""""""conquest"""""""""
kys

>>3030815
Found the italian

>>3031901
>5'9

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>>3032638
It looks vaguely San actually. Same skin color with small eyes. However, San people are actually decently attractive, especially their women.

Now this guy? He looks vaguely Asian, but with a strong ass facial profile.

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I wonder if any other hominids were interested in body modification.
did neanderthals have piercings, tattoos, or scarification?

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>>3033965
I think some shell jewlery with humans/neanderthals, and I think they found evidence of red ochre in a cave where erectus once lived, but it's still ambiguous.