Egypt vs Mesopotamia

>>3019958
Mesopotamia is a pretty broad term. Do you mean Sumer? Babylonia? Akkadian Empire? Assyria?

>>3019958
Mesopotamia by far. Egypt is overrated. Even now Iraq is King of the East. Egypt is Western and degenerate.

I'd say Mesopotamia. They exerted more external influence. Egypt was relatively insular. They were still an impressive culture, but I'd say the city states and empires coming from Mesopotamia influenced the world more.

>>3019969

What if I told you that "Egypt" is even broader?

These are regions, not cultures.

>>3019958
Mesopotamia

>>3019958
Egypt by a long shot, better architecture, sculpture and lore.

>>3020563
>Implying any of that is true

>>3020640
Begone, buffoon.

>>3020123
Egypt gave us our writing system

>>3019969
Mesopotamia includes Persia.

>>3020678
No, the alphabet spread from the Greeks and Phoenicians. The Greeks derived their alphabet from the Phoenicians (adding vowels)and the Phoenicians derived theirs from hieroglyphics. However, the Phoenicians had to completely changed the system by making it phonetic and simpler since hieroglyphics had 1,000 characters.

The Egyptians didn't give us our writing system. They are just the first evidence we have of writing.

>>3020646
I'm just saying these are rather subjective comparisons. None of their architecture, sculptures, or lore pass to other cultures to the extent Mesopotamia stuff (technical term) did.

>>3019958

The Egyptians built in stone so their remains are more obvious, but Mesopotamia founded civilization itself and its legacy is everywhere in the modern world.

>>3020930

Idiotic babble. The Phoenicians invented nothing, they merely used the hieratic script of the Egyptians. The Greeks learned this script from the Phoenicians so erroneously attributed its invention to them, but this is like calling the Indian numeral system "Arabic" simply because that's where we learned it from.

>>3020930
>They are just the first evidence we have of writing.
>HURR

No part of your post is accurate, you are exactly the kind of moron who waffles on about things he knows nothing at all about.

>>3020930
Phoenicians got their alphabet from The proto sinaitic alphabet

Lot's of butthurt egypt fans here apparently. The Canaanites (mainly Phoenicians) adapted the concept of hierglyphics, and spread their alphabet largely due to their maritime culture.

>>3020944
>Idiotic babble
What a shitty way to start discourse. The Phoenician alphabet is a direct continuation of the Proto-Canaanite/siniatic alphabet (and guess what Phoenicians were, Canaanites). It's referred to as Phoenician because they were the first to make wide spread use of it. Proto Canaanite/siniatic was inspired by hierglyphics but not a copy of it or a copy of hieratic script.

>>3020946
Great argument, friend. You are displaying your intellectual capabilities very well.

>>3020983
Phoenician alphabet = Proto Canaanite alphabet which is proto-sinaitic script in Canaan. The Phoenicians referred to themselves as Canaanites.

>>3021220
>The Phoenicians referred to themselves as Canaanites.

[citation needed]

>>3022304
That's common knowledge. Both Phoenicians and Carthaginians called themselves Canaanites. It's why the Phoenicians wouldn't attack Carthaginians under the reign of Cambyses. They viewed each other as brothers.

>>3022492
>Both Phoenicians and Carthaginians called themselves Canaanites

[Citation needed]

>>3022575
Not even him, but it's literally on the cuckpedia page about Phoenicians.
>The name "Canaanites" (כְּנָעַנִיְם kǎnā‘anīm, כְּנָעַנִי kǎnā‘anī) is attested, many centuries later, as the endonym of the people later known to the Ancient Greeks from c. 500 BC as Phoenicians,[4] and following the emigration of Canaanite-speakers to Carthage (founded in the 9th century BC), was also used as a self-designation by the Punics (chanani) of North Africa during Late Antiquity.

>>3022575
Same guy sorry but fuck you. That's basic fucking knowledge when studying Phoenicians. Rather than shit post just do basic research

>>3022620
There is no document when Carthaginians name themselves, same with Phoenicians