Fuck Hitler

soviet union would have 100% invaded

>>3010143
Fuck off

>>3010153
They would have. Or they would have embargoed Germany

>>3010143
No they wouldn't have

desu I agree. also ruined the name and potential of fascism.

>>3010143
>>3010154
What makes you say that

should have just developed the a-bomb then held the world ransom

but thats what you get when you let a vegetarian painter with no formal military training make military decisions

>>3010166
>developing the a-bomb without jewish scientists

>>3010166
Does being a soldier not count as military training? Anyway I blame the drugs they gave him, probably fucked with his head desu

>>3010170

he also should have worked with the zionists like originally planned, ironically the british cockblocked him

>>3010160
>balkans
>bassarabia
>carpathia
>finnish territories

these claims were around for a long time, germany could not afford losing his allies (which held these territories), USSR was the main seller of resources to the nazis, it could have been used as a bargaining tool and that could be catastrophic for the german economy let alone war effort

then theres this thing called communism and actively spreading it

what you can hate hitler for is he didnt take the chance to turn the habitants of the USSR against itself, their troops were greeted as liberators in many places, then they started killing/starving/forcefully taken to germany/burng villages and so on

>>3010143
then why did he let them extend there border by splitting Poland with them? wouldn't it have been smarter to leave a buffer?

>>3010137
>entire political career up to Barbarossa was preparing Germany for its fateful struggle in the East
>like those parts but not actually invading Russia

lol

>>3010220
>let them

ah yes just start fighting on 2 fronts like before, what a brilliant idea

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>>3010137
really makes you think...

>>3010166
The Nazis were never going to have an a-bomb because their educational reforms included turning Physics into "German Physics" which was just racial theory like everything else in Nazi education. All their physicists left instantly because they thought the Nazis were retarded

>>3010158
fascism always intrigued me

I could never reconcile the lose of personal freedom however

>>3010137
>Imagine what Europe would have looked like today if he chose to leave the East alone.
Similar to what it looks like now, except that several German cities were nuked by the Americans in 1945, leading to a German surrender?

>>3010229
He means Germany shouldn't have invaded Poland in the first place.

>>3010250
B-B-B-B-BUT MUH DANZIG MUH POOR GERMANS HARASSED DIN DU NUZING

>>3010245
>he doesn't know about the new Germans

>>3010245
I don't think America would have ever joined and Britain would have eventually signed a peace with honor after losing North Africa

Germany did only declare war on America out of a desperation to get Japan into the war with Russia and popular support in America was rather isolationist until Pearl Harbor

There still would have been lend lease, volunteers, and destroyer patrols however

>>3010250
even if they still wanted Danzig, there were far better ways of doing it
you can't go after half a country, give the second half to another country, and then act innocent "oh no we only wanted this small part here"

>>3010137
You are naive if you thinking Stalin was actually not going to attack the west.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbBnRZoTHFs&t=4s

>>3011387
>amateur historian
lol

>>3010137
Lebrensraum was literally the endgame for Nazi Germany. The USSR and Germany not going to war makes no sense, they were ideologically opposite nations that both threatened the other's hegemony.

>>3010137
>germany wants to expand into russia
>russia wants to expand in europe

>he only person king mongoloid Stalin trusted was Adolf Hitler.
literally the exact opposite

>>3010137
>certified faggot gets angry at long dead man
>check board
Ah.

>He could've had it all but instead he chose to attack Russia and fuck everything up.


>being this stupid

https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html

Educate yourself retarded commie

>>3010166

>Iron Cross recipient
>no formal military training

>>3010137

The more I read about WW2, the more I'm convinced that "Hitler could have won if X" almost always leads to a dead end. You can't fight so many different countries at once and hope to win. The only winning move is not to play.

>>3010143

Even if this were 100% true, invading Russia would still have been a bad idea. Russia's strength is defensive depth. By attacking them first, you are playing to their strength.

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>>3011832
>Russia's strength is defensive depth

lol. Is that before or after the Lend Lease Act?

>>3010137
>He could've had it all but instead he chose to attack Russia and fuck everything up
Because the USSR would never attack Germany and wasn't already recovering from the purges as of 1941.

>>3010137
He would have had to default on his loans to the Soviet Union and lost the war if he hadn't invade.

Also, 600,000 troops on your already exposed flank isn't a 'superstition'

>>3011878

>Because the USSR would never attack Germany

Why would they?

>>3011981
>Soviets weren't expansionist

Are you forgetting what Stalin did to East Germany after the war?

>>3010160
They invaded Poland, Finland, and every other two bit country to the East of Germany. Communist Jews started revolutions in Germany that were put down by the Freikorps. Of course they were going to invade Germany. Are you retarded?

>>3010143
Then he should have focused on NOT invading every other country in Europe so they might be willing to join the fight against the Soviets.

>>3010181
A mere corporal or whatever he was doesn't really have the kind of strategic skills a general needs. It's a totally different scale, commanding a squad as opposed to a whole army.

>>3011387
Maybe he was, but if Hitler really wanted to "save Europe from Communism" like all his fanboys claim, he shouldn't have taken actions that resulted in the rest of Europe preferring STALIN over him.

>>3011836
Lend Lease basically served as a supplement to Soviet industry. They still had the same overall strengths regardless - mainly in having a large military age population, and in being so geographically large than the German blitzkrieg strategy would run out of steam.

>>3012057
You don't have to be expansionist to think you deserve to control a country that you lost millions of lives fighting back against.

>>3011836
Lend Lease wouldn't ever happened if Hitler didn't go against the USSR. Remember that before '41, the western Allies thought of Stalin as a potential enemy. Brits even considered sending an expeditionary force to Finland when the Soviets attacked it, but Sweden cockblocked them. By attacking the USSR he pretty much made the British-American-Soviet alliance a reality.