>"...vulgar are the means of livelihood of all hired workmen whom we pay for mere manual labor, not for artistic skill; for in their case the very wage they receive is a pledge of their slavery."
>"whoever gives his labor for money sells himself and puts himself in the rank of slaves."
~ Cicero
Xavier Renegade Angel tier double think
>Where I come from, people who give sex away without charging money are called whores.
Fucking Wageslaves. Why don't they just, like, not be poor?
>>3008301
>t. wealthy landowner
Well if you have to work for others than you aren't exactly an independent person.
>>3008838
Because slaves are needed for slave-related activities.
>>3008440
Mah nigga
>>3008860
Slavery destroyed the Roman economy.
>>3008895
That is true. The best economic system is when the only difference between the rich and poor people is the size of the farm, slavery throws that out of wack and concentrates money at the top.
Farming and the military are the only honorable occupations and Marius was a mistake.
>>3008983
Marius saved Rome. Sure he gave it cancer, but he saved it from being shot in the brain.
>>3009002
>implying the Gracchus brothers proposed land reforms wouldn't have made the Marius reforms unnecessary.
>>3009018
assuming they weren't aiming at regnum after all
>>3009032
We can only speculate. But it was because of the slavery-backed latifundia estates that caused the rise of Caesar and the death of the Republic.
The Marius reforms allowed a military out of poor people, it didn't fix anything other than the military issues.
>>3009049
Yeah, Marius' army was the cancer that plagued Rome until its dying day, but it also made it incredibly strong.
Nearly 1500 years isn't a bad run for a man with a death sentence
>>3009061
Those reforms wouldn't have been so bad if the wealth elite didn't own all the land and unemploy all the small-time roman farmers.
When the people are more loyal to popular army commanders than to the state, then its when your republic is in trouble.
>>3009107
The people would have followed generals regardless of the wealthy. Nobody is going to say no to the opportunity of getting better shit.