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How come this family has managed to stay in power for so long without the people uprising against them? Is there a book about their history and how they to power? Also why does the West like them when they hate other Middle Eastern despots?
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>>2982786
The Saudi government uses the oil money to distribute various gibs to their population, so they basically buy their loyalty.

I don't know about the West in its entirety, but America has liked Saudi Arabia for their petrodollar agreement, which helps keep the cost of borrowing money low.
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Western protection. West doesn't hate despots, they hate 'unfriendly' despots. As soon as the foreign protection is withdrawn people in the region will be at their throats.
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>>2982786
FILTHY FUCKING NAJDI SCUM

MECCA IS RIGHTFUL HASHEMITE CLAY

REEEEE
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Early Saudi History goes like this:

>Be in Arabia
>Nothing but nomads, semi-nomads, some towns, and Mecca/Medina
>Nobody gives a shit about the interior
>Be Saudis
>Be one tribe, among many other savage tribes
>Be fairly successful, but get BTFO repeatedly for centuries
>Be Ibn Saud
>Be a magnificent bastard
>Want to unify desert into one state
>Get beaten by the Turks, and your rivals, the Rashdis
>Go back inna desert
>See nomads, unite nomads under religious order, the Ihkwan
>WWI
>Eternal Anglo allies with and gives guns to Ibn Saud
>Ibn Saud conquers the Rashidis
>Ibn Saud conquers Hashimite Hedjaz, Two Holy Mosques
>Ihkwan now useless fanatics
>Kill them off
>Marry woman from every tribe in the territory, fuck them, have tons of sons and heirs
>Proclaim Saudi Arabia, be poor as fuck
>Only revenues are from pilgrims and agriculture
>Enter 'Murica
>Prospect for oil
>There's a fucking ton
>Oil gives the Saudis power, Saudis enforce Wahabbism, consolidate power
>WWII
>Saudis stay neutral, but cozy up further to 'Murica
>Form ARAMCO, become Oil Sheiks, import tons of Americans, begin to modernize in the '50s

From then, it goes further into Cold War tensions, Inter-Arab bickering, an oil-fed welfare state, and steadily brewing religious tensions...
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>>2983811
Good summarisation. So they will fall you predict?
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>>2983811

Continued:

>Be Ibn Saud's son, Saud
>Jump between Nasser and Eisenhower
>Spend a ton on palaces
>See Nasserism rise, even in the House of Said
>See tons of debt build up
>Other Princes are pissed
>Brother, Faisal, stages palace coup
>Faisal becomes King
>Brings in reforms, abolishes slavery, promotes Pan-Islamism
>Arab Cold War goes on
>Gets shot by a Princeling pissed at TV
>Khalid becomes King
>Rolling in oil dough
>Traditionalists get pissed at Westernization
>Takeover Mecca, get put down
>Religious law and fundamentalism is expanded
>Die of Heart Attack, 1982
>Be Fahd
>Spend a deal on charity
>Host Coalition in Gulf War
>Spend more money
>Have Stroke
>Become Vegetable
>Regent, Abdullah, takes power in '05
>Restructure things, bring in reforms, gib tons of welfare in light of the Arab Spring
>Put down Bahrain uprising
>Continue Cold War with Iran
>Die
>Salman comes to power
>Is fucking old
>Stirs up shit in regards to succession
>Nephew, now son, is heir. New generation will assume power.
>Invades Yemen

That's about it.
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Because everyone in SA is rich, fat and happy on oil money?
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>>2983824

As the oil dries up, so will the Kingdom. It will take a decade or two, hell, maybe even a war with Iran, but it will collapse. Collapse into what, I don't know.

Perhaps it would start as a Medieval battle between factions in the House of Saud (Each Wife had sons, who allied with other sons, to form factions that alternated Kingship to the present). Perhaps it might end in an Islamist Coup. Perhaps it might fragment along regional/ethnic lines.

At the end, though, it isn't going to last. Oil can't buy stability.
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>>2982786
because ((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))
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>>2982786
All memes aside they're very, VERY good at political maneuvering.
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>>2983946

Ibn Saud shot, talked, and fucked his way into a Kingdom. Basically.
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>>2983935
>post-oil Saudi Arabia will become a real life Total War situation, with family trees combating for territories.

Noice.
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>>2983992

It's one of the few places nowadays where such a thing could happen.
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>>2983811
You listen to history unbuttoned
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>>2982786
Because Saudi Arabia is a real fucking monarchy: a state centered around a dynasty that its people recognizes as sovereign by right of protecting them (which Ibn Saud proved) and providing for them (which modern SA proves).

Hell just look at the country's name: it has the name of the family in it: Kingdom of SAUDI Arabia. Thats like back in history when the region is filled with Dynastic states like Seleucids or Ottomans.
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>without the people uprising against them?
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They've had uprisings, but dat dere oil money buys a lot of bread, books, bombs, and bullets.
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>>2983811
>Abdullah bin Saud was captured along with two of his Wahhabi supporters. They were then sent to prison in Constantinople. Abdullah and his two followers were publicly beheaded for their crimes against holy cities and mosques. Prior to his execution, bin Saud, a Wahhabi who forbade to listen music, was forced to listen to the lute.
Based Ottomans
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>>2982786
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_seizure

It's been a struggle. One of the big reasons we need to get behind their 2030 plans full force.
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