there are theists and atheists. but both obey the law. both actually trust the fairness and reasonability of law. how do you find laws reasonable ? like, making stealing worth 5 years, or raping worth 7 years, do you think it's reasonable ? and if it is, what makes you think so ? is it because you trust who constructed it ?
what about morality ? how do you find whether something is reasonable or not ? do you just compare it with your personal belief ? or do you just trust the competent creator of it (God) ?
it's pretty weird, how atheists refuse religion for the way theists interpret morality and reason, but they do the same thing towards law. like they have the same thought pattern when obeying the law as how theists obey religion.
this makes me come into conclusion that atheists are atheists only because they don't want to admit something that is uncomfortable for them.
>>2980205
Here's a meme response you earned it
>>2980222
so what are your thoughts on people who convert to another religion ? does it mean they just choose morality based on their comfort ?
>>2980205
you don't have to consider the law fair and reasonable to obey it. you just have to recognize that people have power over you and will enforce their law through punishments if you do not obey.
t. an atheist who obeys the laws
>>2980244
That's not how laws principally work
meanwhile the most socially progressive nations with the best education, most free press, and lowest crime are also heavily atheist
religious people act outside basic laws and standards then justify it with 'muh beeleefs'. reminder that christians live under secular(atheist) governments which allow for their freedom and diversity.
>>2980205
>like they have the same thought pattern when obeying the law as how theists obey religion.
I don't think this is correct.
A theist may believe that divine punishment is levied upon whoever disobeys the divine rules. They may interpret various unlucky circumstances like contracting a deadly disease or dying in an accident to be divine intervention to punish the sinner.
But to an atheist, who does not believe in magic, such unlucky circumstances are just that: unlucky circumstances. It is evident to the nonbeliever that nobody who has ever disobeyed a god's so-called rules has ever been smote. Because magic is impossible.
However, the law is quite different. The consequences for disobeying the law are evident, systematic, and tied directly to a specific offense. A court must judge a lawbreaker for a specific thing done wrong, at a specific time, with enough evidence to prove within reason that it was done by that specific person. The process of punishment for infringement upon the law can be seen by the eyes without even a suggestion of faith required.
Why then would an atheist not follow this code, if merely to save his own skin from the obvious repercussions that could be levied upon him by man?
>>2980895
correlation =/= causation
>>2980229
they would say they "discovered the truth"