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Marxism is not real socialism

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>Spengler had claimed that socialism's rise in Germany had not begun with the Marxist rebellions of 1918 to 1919, but rather in 1914 when Germany waged war, uniting the German nation in a national struggle that he claimed was based on socialistic Prussian characteristics.

>These socialistic Prussian characteristics existed across Germany that included creativity, discipline, concern for the greater good, productivity, and self-sacrifice. Spengler described socialism outside of a class conflict perspective and said "The meaning of socialism is that life is controlled not by the opposition between rich and poor, but by the rank that achievement and talent bestow. That is our freedom, freedom from the economic despotism of the individual."

>Spengler denounced Marxism for having developed socialism from an English perspective, while not understanding Germans' socialist nature. Spengler accused Marxism as following the British tradition of the poor envying the rich. Spengler claimed that Marxism sought to train the proletariat to "expropriate the expropriator", the capitalist, and then to let them live a life of leisure on this expropriation. In summary, Spengler concluded that "Marxism is the capitalism of the working class" and not true socialism.

Is he right, /his/?
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More like Spergler, lol.
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Krupp was doing socialist welfare shit before it was in vogue and Prussia was one of the first countries in Europe to dump child labour, so there's some merit to his line of thinking
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>>2959880
>>2959892
I think we need to disassociate socialism from Marxism and understand that right-wing socialism is popular in most of the world despite being obscure in the anglosphere.
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are we not all socialists when actively at war?
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>>2959892
How is child labor opposed to socialism?
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Can Spengler be considered nazbol?
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>>2960945
He's more of a strasserist than a National Bolshevik imo. Or even a National socialist in a non-nazi and non-strasser variant. Such as a Prussian National Socialist.
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>>2959836
>socialism is when the government does stuff.
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>>2959836
>socialism with prussian characteristics
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>>2959836
Spengler's theory of cyclical rise and fall of civilizations that repeats itself every 1000 years is so unbearable to me that I can just not take him seriously

His idea of prussian socialism to me really was just an attempt to hijack the leftist narrative and pull the commies to his side
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>>2959988
I think you're confusing the words social and socialism. Spenglers definition of "socialism" really just looks like upside down individualism
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