How?

>>2957439
Gibs

Maine screwed up.

>>2957439
Repubs had dominated national politics from 1865 until FDR, people were tired of their shit

>>2957439
Either this or a socialist uprising

>>2957439
America was a lot less polarized. You didn't have a guaranteed 45% republicans and 45% democrats. People could actually be persuaded to vote for other parties.

Because back then you had to work to get your gibs

>>2957439
That's what happens when you're choosing between a good candidate and a less good candidate instead of two equally shitty candidates.

>>2957492
sauce? people were probably traditional R or D households no matter what

>>2957487
>Either this or a socialist uprising
A shame Roosevelt won then. Capitalism is Cancer.

Cult of Personality

>>2958403
It stopped America from becoming a shithole, just like every single socialist county.

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>>2957439
You are like babby, watch this.

>>2958408
>just like every single socialist county.
Sweden is unironically the best country in the world.

>>2958411
Reagan turned American politics into a cartoon. Trump is going to turn it into an Anime.

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How?

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>>2958408
>means of production in private hands
>socialism

>>2958425
America isn't a Democracy. Hilary won the popular vote.

>>2958431
America is a representative democracy, not a direct democracy.

Learn the difference.

>>2958442
>America is a representative democracy
No. America is an Oligarchy.

>>2958416
Sweden has a less restricted market than the US, it's not socialist. Also, it's rapidly deteriorating.

>>2958449
Every country is an oligarchy by Ancient Greek standards. America is a democratic representative republic, and is still one of the better attempts at democracy out there. Probably the only superior system is the Australian one.

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>>2958458
Let's be real, the American system is in pretty bad shape.

That's one of the nice features about republics, they can function as anything from totalitarian states to full democracies, and anything in between.

>>2957439
Feds sank the global economy and Roosevelt used the desperation of people to his advantage promising handouts that prolonged the depression and that will one day bankrupt America. Still worshipped by idiots for some reason just like how republican idiots worship Reagan

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>>2958458
>America is a democratic representative republic
Yes, yes. keep telling yourself that, Burger. The government that rules over you, is definitely a Democracy and not an Oligarchy that is controlled by Big Business.

>>2957439
>california has ~40 million people
>texas has ~27.5 million people

>texas has more representation somehow

>>2958505
Its a feature, not a bug.

>>2958500
Oh, I get it. You have a 14-year olds understanding of the world. Carry on, then.

>>2958416
You don't know what you are talking about.

>>2958431
Tell that to Tilden, Cleveland, and Gore. Clinton lost legitimately in the Electoral College due to the odd quirk of population distribution, but Tilden, Cleveland, and Gore actually had the election stolen from them due to shenanigans in just 3 states (Tilden) or just 1 state (Cleveland, Gore).

>>2958505
This was in 1936 though.

>>2958505
>Hi everyone I'm retarded

>>2958500
You talk like that isn't representative democracies work.

They're not supposed to be real democracies in the first place.
Delegating your participation isn't participating.

>>2958595
California in 36 had larger population than Texas.

>>2958416
Sweden isn't socialist you retarded redditor. It's capitalist with a large welfare state.

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>>2958416
Real talk: Leftists said LITERALLY EXACTLY THIS about Venezuala ten short years ago.

Socialists countries inevitably collapse. Just because there's one or two that haven't yet, doesn't mean they won't.

Sweden, for example, will be overrun by non-contributing migrants and go full Greece within ten years.

>>2958774
It hasn't happened yet.

If you want to base your shit-talking on things that may or may not happen, then I've got you beat, because Trump is about to get drawn and quartered.

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>1870 /his/
>have a gander at ye olde paris commune, they haven'ts't collapsed yet
>1987 /his/
>look at the Soviets, they haven't collapsed yet
>1990 /his/
>look at Yugoslavia they haven't collapsed yet
>2007 /his/
>look at Venezuala, they haven't collapsed yet
>2017 /his/
>look at sweden, they haven't collapsed yet
>2027 /his/
>look at the paris islamic commune, they haven't collapsed yet

>>2958791
I can't tell if you've invented a new logical fallacy or if I just don't remember the scientific name.

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>>2958776
not him but

>>2958794
They "pattern recognition" fallacy, liberals hate it

Gilded Age Republican shenanigans.

>>2958798
source for that projection?

>>2959019
His ass

>>2958728
Well, since electoral votes are decided by the census it would seem fair that if Texas has a bigger population than California at the time in the year 1930, they should have more votes. Right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1930_United_States_Census

>>2959204
Electoral votes is congressmen+senators, not population ya noodlehead.

>>2959209
The electoral votes are allocated via the state's population. Same with Senate + House seats in the state.

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You are all like babby

>>2959409
the libertarian won...a part of Kentucky?

>>2958416

>I enjoy it when our women and children are raped by black people

>>2959418

>What is the district of Colombia

>>2959423

He said Sweden not US.

>>2959423
You tell em Cletus

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>>2958425
MEMES, JACK!

>>2958416
Go to hell
t. a disgruntled swede

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>>2958472
t. Economic illiterate

>>2959409
Fuck Massachusetts, worst state in the Union.

>>2959439
not an argument

>>2959438
Kek.

>>2958425
New Hampshire is a weird state. Out house, Senate, and governor are all rebound but our entire national delegation is Democrats, and the presidential vote went to Hillary.

>>2959429
Which district of Colombia?

Democrats won the district of ColUmbia, and a libertarian won part of Kentucky.

>>2958458
Sure m8. Anyways, have you done your research about other countries´models of democracy?

>>2960414
Which countries are not oligopolies?

>>2957439
American culture had degenerated thanks to jews and the mass immigration of shitskin cultures (catholicucks) which gave america the gibs me dat culture instead of the hardworking aryan selfmade man culture.

>>2957472
Explain to me Woodrow Wilson

>>2958418
underrated

>>2958425
This is just hilarious to look at.

>>2958416
Sweden is a nice country, but it is not a socialist one. Nordic countries are actually the most business-friendly countries in mainland Europe.

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>>2958425
DELET THIS

>>2958774
>capitalist countries inevitably collapse. just because there's one or two that haven't yet, doesn't mean they won't.
so you're admitting that you use confirmation bias to reinforce your beliefs lmao

>>2958416
Sweden is a shithole even by Nordic standards.

t. Norway

>>2960726
Not everyone can have oil.

Still, I'm 90% sure they're worse than Finland now.

>>2960729
Norway, Finland, Denmark and even Iceland all shit on Sweden.

>>2959439

>I don't care that our women and children get raped because I can enjoy a sense of superiority over an imaginary hillbilly on the internet

Ok sven.

>>2958442
> representative democracy
representative would mean that there is fair representation, which is not the case in america. in that sense its more of a "constitutional republic" or "soft oligarchy" than representative democracy. direct democracy is a different thing all together.

>>2957439
>>2958411
>>2959409
A country united by war (hot and cold)
>>2958425
A nation divided by the media for ratings and clicks.

>>2960731
I thought Denmark was also extremely Muslim'd up now.

>>2958516
you didn't even address his argument and instead you flung ad homs. really makes you think whos the child in this argument....

>>2960740
Watch this debate, you'll realize the difference between Sweden and Denmark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arjJmqDrUUI

>>2958431
>48%
Uhh, no sweetie.

>>2960740
Danes hate the "refugees" so much that they literally confiscate all their valuables as a way of paying passage to Sweden.

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>>2958425
>Fuck coal miners, the industrial base, anyone who's pro-life, and anyone who owns a gun
>Wait, why didn't Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania vote for me?

>>2959019
>>2959175
I haven't posted anything in this thread yet and am not that poster, but that's actually from a UN report.

https://ideas.repec.org/p/hdr/papers/hdrp-2010-40.html

>>2960554

>campaigned on anti war agenda
>enters Great War
>plague breaks out
>apoplexy

>>2958458
>only superior system is the Australian one
Except our constitution is fucked. We technically don't even have freedom of speech.

>>2958431
It would still mean that Hillary is so atrocious that she couldn't landslide a complete doofus of a person and a joke of a candidate.

>>2962744
>giving aussies freedom of bantz
Would be a big mistake.

>>2962744
We dont need freedom of speech, its an implied right that's in effect because of case law.

Just because its not in the constitution doesn't mean the right doesent 'exist'

>>2962616
It's from 2010 and shows Libya (that's right, the country with 3 governments,ISIS and an economy based on extorting niggers who want to go to europe) as reaching the HDI of some of the wealthiest most stable western nations today. It's a meme.

>>2958774
I'm no fan of socialism on the level Scandinavia does it, but don't pretend that Chavez wasn't unusually retarded when it came to economics.

>>2964779
Sweden and Venezuela literally have a different system of economics.

Having the state nationalize and administer corporations is the opposite to having a free market and using taxes on the market to administer large scale social programs.

>>2958425
What's the argument behind the electoral college? seems retarded as fuck

>>2958425
First past the post, genunie failures of a candidate who was in politics for a longer time than her competitor, equal coverage resulting into skewed voter perception, leaks, possibly made by a foreign nation, coluring the public view of Hillary Clinton, populist economics promised in comparison to a completely uninspring economic plan.

Hillary was a terrible candidate, Trump was an endearing idiot, guess whose more electable.

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>>2958425
>not posting the real electoral results

shame on you

>>2957439
Literally gibs during a time when a lot of people were doing anything to survive.

>>2963103
Before NATO intervention Libya actually had the highest living standards in Africa.

>>2965888
Seychelles bro.

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>>2957439

> mfw the Literary Digest did a shitty poll that predicted Alf Landon would win in a landslide and they fucked up so bad they literally went out of business two years later

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Literary_Digest#Presidential_poll

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>>2958425
it was HER TURN

>>2958411
S U C C

>>2960582
I agree

>>2958458
>America is a democratic representative republic
Fair enough
>and is still one of the better attempts at democracy out there
kek

>>2958425
Democrats made Hilary their candidate

so America was like "I'd rather the reality show host with Russian connections"

then they regretted it instantly, but they would probably do it again with the same choice

>>2959409
you know someone is popular when they are named McGovern

>>2959975
>how dare they don't vote for the guy who brought us Watergate

>>2965648
Give states equalish say in deciding president instead of making it a popular vote.

Actually I support Maine proportional voting instead of the FPTP in the EC

>>2965648
It forces candidates to pay attention to the interests of a wider range of interests compared to a pure popular vote.

The majority of the population lives in cities, which tend to vote overwhelmingly blue. However, the interests of those cities don't always coincide with the interests of those outside the cities, and purely catering to the interests of cities would be not only unfair to the rest of the population, but it also may not be good in the long term.

The electoral college is still flawed, but it shifts the focus of campaigning and makes it so you don't have to just go full blue to win the major cities on the coasts to win the election. Instead, you end up with weird swing states which offer a more diverse range of interests to be represented.

>>2960739
We weren't at war in 1936.

>>2965793
Honestly why are the physically electors people. If 270 of them conspired together a random hobo could be President.

>>2966983
I don't care who they vote for, I just really fucking hate Massachusetts. The people there are just garbage. Fuck Boston in particular.

gibsmedats

>>2960822
>pro life
>says no to healthcare and post natal care.

>>2967030
I see, so it gets rural areas overrepresented so that they don't get neglected

>>2966983
What a dumb post. "brought us Watergate"? Finish high school.

>>2958431
America should be a direct democracy. But that means no voting registration, just votig IDs. Democrats don't want this, because without irony they would lose New Mexico, Colorado or even Cali without illegals.

>>2957439

Republicans had done what they did best and ruined America. Also didn't have a giant propaganda machine and millions of dumb-as -fuck rubes who think they are temporarily embarrassed millionaires to keep them going

>>2968156
Exactly. As it sits right now, a pure competition for popular vote would mean that a candidate could win by really only catering to the extremist democrats, as that'll generally win you the biggest cities.
>http://www.businessinsider.com/half-of-the-united-states-lives-in-these-counties-2013-9