Recent Chinese Wars

>>2955050
It was autism.

>>2955050
No, they just had millions of people to waste.

You're joking, right?

>Korean War
>beat UN forces back to starting line
>ensure buffer between China and America as long as DPRK exists
>average peasant chink now worships CCP because they fought off white imperialists and weren't crushed outright

>Sino-Indian War
>short, effective war that deterred India from challenging China in the region for decades
>Tibet is barely on India's radar now

>Sino-Vietnam War
>probably worst fuck up by PRC ever in foreign policy, wanted to protect ally (Cambodia) and show USSR China meant business
>got cucked by rice farmers and PLA was finally reformed after years of Cultural Revolution retardation

To be honest, it's not a bad way of fighting. If political objectives aren't within reach, the PRC tended to pull out. It's a more pragmatic method than pursuing wars that you know you'll lose in the end.

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>>2955050
>but still, a high price for seemingly little gain.

The Sino-Indian and Sino-Viet wars? Sure, they're just glorified border skirmishes with both parties falling back to negotiate shit.

But the Korean War? Fuck no. China's intervention had a huge effect: it solidified the PRC as China's "True Government." Fresh from the Civil War's end in '49, the CCP has yet to prove itself to the Chinese populace that it was a real government and not some warlord group that will just as easily disappear or a weak central government that will be beset with rebel warlords. The Intervention in Korea cemented that shaky grip on China the CCP had.

Sure shitloads of Chinks died but it was for the first time in modern history that a Chinese force forced a western army to retreat and for the average Chinese to whom the humiliations of 1800s and the hell of the first half of the 20th Century was still fresh, the sight of the UN army retreating in the face of a Chinese force was nothing short of awe inspiring.

>>2955426
Sure, but the CCP could have also consolidated power by finishing off the ROC first, and avoided the fallout with Americans.

I'm not convinced a drastic move was necessary to solidify their power. War on chinese soil had ended and they were beginning land reforms that would later prove immensely popular. Dealing with the remaining ROC in Taiwan seems like a low-risk medium reward path. They must have known they would be giving up Taiwan and facing sanctions if they intervened. Plus it was a miracle they did as well as they did.

>>2955532
Intervention was more of a knee-jerk reaction by the PRC to the fact that the war was on China;s doorstep and America isnt forthcoming about whether or not they'll drive it into China itself.

>>2955050

on the one hand, you have to realize that the US/UN forces were a shadow of their ww2 years. defense spending had been cut to a fraction and the japanese/korean occupation units were minimally trained, equipped and disciplined. on top of that, macarthur's far east command was notoriously corrupt.

on the other hand, the chinese PLA led and composed of veteran soldiers that had fought in a brutal three-sided conflict against the japanese and ROC, then against a rearmed ROC. the PLA was almost always facing enemies with numerical and material superiority.

i always find it amazing how americans know the chicoms won a guerrilla war in china and then go on to think that korea was fought with ww1 human wave tactics. there's no questioning of how or why the PLA would change from guerrilla warfare to obsolete ww1 tactics with the space of a year.

chinese participation in the korean war was half domestic politics and half international politics by mao's reckoning. as the other anon in the thread said, pushing out the US/UN won major political support. it also had the added effect of killing off many NRA defectors that were possibly acting against the CCP. then there's the fact that the soviet union failing to provide the promised air/logistical support meant that the CCP could claim korea as their own sphere of influence. the korean war was also one of the major events leading up to the sino-soviet split.

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>>2955532
>Dealing with the remaining ROC in Taiwan seems like a low-risk medium reward path.

>there's not much risk in an amphibious operation on a small mountainous island with one of the most hostile beaches on the earth and a fucking US navy carrier group guarding the strait

>>2955532
intervening in the korean war provided chinese leadership with a great opportunity to speed up property seizures from landlords, and sped up their consolidation of power in general. you are right that they could probably have done it anyways, but the korean war and "communist solidarity" or w/e provided a great pretext to massively accelerate it.


changing gears here, while they did totally fuck up in vietnam in every way conceivable, it did a great job in destroying hua guofeng's credibility as mao's successor and made deng's usurpation easier

>>2955561
But US warships were sent to Taiwan AFTER the Chinese intervened in Korea. Truman says US won't help ROC in Jan 1950.

http://china.usc.edu/harry-s-truman-%E2%80%9Cstatement-formosa%E2%80%9D-january-5-1950

>>2955406
this
The Korean War was the main reason why Mao had enough political capital to carry out the """"Great Leap Forward""""

>>2955553
>americans know the chicoms won a guerrilla war in china

No actually I can pretty much guarantee that they don't. Assuming they know China fought in the Korean War at all, or even what it was about in the first place, is a bit of a stretch.