https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nongqawuse
>The cattle-killing frenzy affected not only the Gcaleka, Sarhili's clan, but the whole of the Xhosa nation. Historians estimate that the Gcaleka killed between 300,000 and 400,000 head of cattle.
>Nongqawuse predicted that the ancestors' promise would be fulfilled on February 18, 1857, when the sun would turn red. On that day the sun rose the same colour as every other day, and the prophecy was not realised. Initially, Nongqawuse's followers blamed those who had not obeyed her instructions, but they later turned against her.
>In the aftermath of the crisis, the population of British Kaffraria dropped from 105,000 to fewer than 27,000 due to the resulting famine. Nongqawuse was arrested by the British authorities and imprisoned on Robben Island. After her release, she lived on a farm in the Alexandria district of the eastern Cape. She died in 1898.
Epic.
>>2953528
Yeah I mean I imagine that happened to a lot of pagans when confronting Christian armies. It's the main reason why I hate how there is this resurgence of magical belief in of color communities.
The orisha and the ancestors are not gonna save you from bullets. Neither will your latinx brujx power.
>>2953528
1. If it was a Spirit you don't know why they advised that action; if super intelligent there may have been good reasons for doing so.... or not.
2. Ironically the Sun probably turned red as it set.
3. Might have been delusional; people have done many stupid things under the influence of "mass delusions" and psychosis. Untold suffering has been caused by man's irrational actions.
4. This level of mass starvation and death is only a statistical blip when compared to the mass starvation and death caused by mans rational actions in Soviet Ukraine and in Communist China; ironically this means that the only thing that exceeds the suffering and death that mankind causes when he's being irrational is the suffering and death he causes when being rational.....
>Ain't life a bitch sometimes...
>>2953528
Fucking retards.
Ironically, magic is real. It's called technology. Science is, in part, the craft of discovering what magic works and what doesn't. Technology is all the magic that actually works.
>>2953609
Why is that point against pagan/indigenous religions?
>>2953662
so wheels were considered magic by sumerians?
>>2953674
paganism is perceived as more primitive than monotheism generally, and more given to magical thinking
>>2953681
But Christianity, Islam and Judaism have a lot of magical thinking to though so I see the belief that the 3 Abrahamic religions are less prone to magical thinking pretty flase.
>>2953662
>>2953528
Ironically, both Manly P. Hall and Anton Levy stated that one of the perils of the use of "Black Magic" is having your own negative intentions and energy reflected back at you and having the very thing you sought to use as a weapon destroy you instead.
>"Black Magic" joke
>>2953733
Magic isn't real, nerd
>>2953741
lol imagine actually believing this?
>>2953741
And there was no 9/11 conspiracy either, right?
>>2953662
magic is by definition a mystic force that does not obbey the rules of the natural world.
technology is the use of devices and contraptions that work around those rules or uses them to achieve results.
technology is anti-magic, and science is the task of destroying magic.
>>2953987
For several types of "magic", that's a pretty silly way of looking at it; consider it from the perspective of video games, computer programming and the "natural rules" of the world created within them.
>>2953987
>magic is by definition a mystic force that does not obbey the rules of the natural world.
So basically, quantum uncertainty? It's not like real life physics is always predictable.
If magic existed wouldn't it mean that it's a part of the natural world? Scientists would be studying it like they do any other phenomena and try to find out what rules it works by. 'Mystical' just basically means unknown.