>western universal values on non western civilizations

Yes, the west did invent truly universal values that the whole of the human race should follow. What''s the problem?

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>>2952792
>westerners really believe this

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>>2952795
>all morals are equally good

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>>2952827
>my morals are objectively the best for everyone

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>>2952827
>western morals are somehow superior by virtue of being western

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>>2952827
>my morality is the one that is superior because I said so

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>>2952835
>>2952838
>>2952840
>not believing that your own morals are objectively right

>>2952853
>he doesn't think morality comes from God and nature
full pleb.

>>2952788
>>2952795
>>2952827
>>2952838
>>2952853
>all this cancerous frogposting
am I in r9k?

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>>2952856
>believing that religious techings have a supernatural origin

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>>2952877
>he doesn't think the fined tuned universe is evidence of God existance

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>>2952881
>Believing that

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>>2952888
>he believes in pseudoscience like the multiverse

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>frog posting because youre morally obliged to

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>>2952881
>>2952899
>using the fact the there are thing that we cant explain yet as a proof that god exists
>linking this idea of a god to your religion

>>2952920
>he doesn't know the chances of our universe ocurring randomly makes it impossible

Frogposters managed to make a single site that was supposedly one of the worst a whole lot worse, how can they talk about civilization

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>>2952932
>believing that even if a real god exists it somehow validates the teachings of YOUR religion

>>2952943
>he thinks diferent religions are so diferent in the end

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>>2952952
>believing that even if a real god exist that he had any influence on the world at all
>his only proof are some books written by humans

>>2952985
>humans can't attain spiritual knowledge by meditation
>what are ascended masters

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>>2952877
>1438
>still not beliving in the one God

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>>2952919
>morally

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>>2952899
>he believes widely accepted inflationary cosmology is pseudoscience

>>2953051
>no real evidence of other universes even existing
>not pseudoscience

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>>2952994
>im a new age follower

>>2953007
?

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>>2953056
>demanding real evidence when you cant provide it for your own arguments

>>2953067
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe

>>2953060
>ascended masters are new age crap

>even talking to you guys at all

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>>2953056
>he thinks "real" evidence necessitates direct observation
>he thinks the fact that our most solid understanding of the physical world makes the universe more likely than not is not "real" evidence in favor of the multiverse
>he doesn't understand Bayesian inference
>he doesn't realize, according to his own logic, the fine-tuning argument cannot ever be "real" evidence

>>2953114
>dozens of fined tuned variables if not hundreds
>they merelly happened by accident

>>2952792
I actually laughed out loud.

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>>2952788

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. 28Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwyb7lE1Tr8

>>2953144
>he thinks an argument from incredulity is an actual argument

>>2952792
/thread

>>2953215
>he thinsk an argument from autority is a real argument

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Once the West inevitably gets BTFO'ed this century, which region will become the economic leader of the world?

>>2953060
>>2953072

Meditation has scientifically proven results. See this thread for details. >>2918959

>>2954439
China.

>>2954439
Russia

>>2954439
Trick question, there's nobody large enough and competent enough to fill the gap.

China is too corrupt and authoritarian.

India is a non-country.

The EU will never get it together.

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>>2954439

Ultimately unimportant so long as world peace remains. We're all better off as total global wealth increases.

>>2952788
whose values would you use to compare against others' if not your own?

>>2954439
Damn. The Mongols fucked over the Middle East hard. Didn't they?

>>2954439
>>2954562
Where is the ERE on this graph?

>>2954767
>Where is the ERE on this graph?
In the dust after the Ottoman Turks finished them once and for all.

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>>2952792

>he thinks that the abandonment and subsequent exchange of ancient traditions and the values of our ancestors for hedonist nihilism and technocratic materialism was a net benefit for the human race

>>2952853
>needing to believe your moral truth is objective in order to stand by it

>>2954791
>he thinks humanity is our end-all
Nihilists are failed hedonists, btw.

>>2954791
>abandonment and subsequent exchange of ancient traditions and the values of our ancestors for hedonist nihilism and technocratic materialism
Those aren't western values. Those are the result of us abandoning our own values.

>>2954779
I feel like Eastern Europe (including ERE until turks conquered it) should be represented.

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>>2957091
>I feel

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I agree OP, modern western values are garbage and other cultures are right to reject them.

>>2956312
>needing to acknowledge your moral truth as non objective simply because other moral truths exist

I don't want to make a new thread for this,
and this is completly unrelated
but what is the philosophical word for "eternal truth" kind of philosophy, like Taosm and Vedic Dharma?
I forgot.

>>2957122
Logos.

>>2954439
>implying China's ghost city inflated GPD means shit
The fact that they're autistic enought o build a bunch of cities literally nobody lives in just to statwhore their GDP is truly amazing.

>>2957126
NO it was a phrase, when you google it, you get the results.

>>2954439
The numbers say China

>>2954439
Indian superpower by 2030

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl0b2LGf9jM