Was he elite or shit?

>>2947261

If the end result of your leadership is your country being split in half by commies because of war that you started, then you're an objectively bad leader.

>>2947271
Umm i mean in terms of his ability.

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>>2947326
how do you judge his abilities if not by the result? He sucked and his early """success""" needs to be explained by the situation of the German people and not by his skills.

>>2947326

How do you judge a person's ability if not by their results?

>>2947333
>>2947366
Results are not everything. Think about why Hannibal respected.

he was a complete retard
from eating up all the "backstab" fairytale in ww1, throughout dividing powers and turning the administration into a clusterfuck till actively wasting human life and LARPing as a field marshal

>>2947385

What? Hannibal had great results.

>>2947405
He was a defeated general.

>>2947271
I guess Alexander and Napoleon were shit, then.

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>>2947261
He was only good at working the crowds. Otherwise he was incompetent. Even his own generals tried to get rid of him.

>>2947261
Charismatic speaker that shouldn't be allowed in having any say in military matters, especially when it came to technology.

>>2947405
He literally lost every war he fought in and died in disgrace

>>2947261
He was great at lying and backstabbing, but he was eventually defeated by his delusion de grandeur combined with horrible German intelligence.

>>2947461
Napoleon inherited France's situation with Europe and was already embroidered with conflict.

>>2947461
They were