East-Germany/Yugoslavia

maybe /int/ or even /bant/ is more suitable to answer your question

>>2947118
probably, might aswell try

tyvm

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>>2947096
GDR
>shit in the 40s
>got a lot better in the 50s and 60
>high point are the mid 70s
>it went to shit after the oil crisis and by the 80s people's living standard was actually falling
>t. GDR historian

Also don't let the Preußen-pasta fool you. There was unemployment and massive problems at work and in the inner cities.

East Germany was way more homogeneous in terms of standard of living, Yugoslavia had great disparities between wealthier parts (Slovenia, Croatia, Vojvodina) and the poorer parts (Kosovo, Macedonia, Bosnia).

Yugoslavia had substantial unemployment whereas East Germany had a labor shortage.

Yugoslavs could travel to and work in Western countries while East Germany was sealed off. Many Yugoslavs became guest workers in West Germany, Austria etc., encouraged by the Yugoslav government.

I think East Germany's surveillance apparatus was way stricter than Yugoslavia.

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>>2947155
>Yugoslavia had substantial unemployment whereas East Germany had a labor shortage.
Not in the 80s and not in all sectors.
>East Germany was way more homogeneous in terms of standard of living,
Maybe but Berlin and bigger cities had a much higher living standard then the periphery.
>East Germany was sealed off.
>East Germany's surveillance apparatus was way stricter
This is correct.

Also the Yugos had a fairly old liberal cultural policy which was very important to people in the Eastern bloc. I.e. they could buy music there that was not available elsewhere. Most GDR citizens just consumed West-German media tho.

>>2947160
>Not in the 80s and not in all sectors.

The labor shortage largely disappeared in the eighties or earlier. Real unemployment at the scale of Yugoslavia did not exist though. There were under employed people, however, like in the other Eastern bloc countries.


In the cultural sector, there was a certain liberalization in East Germany during the Honecker era, i.e. Western music became more available, more tolerance for groups like Punks in later years, and so on.

>>2947160
Hmm, probably explains why a fair lot of (ex-) Yugoslavs live here. (Belgium)

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>>2947238
>In the cultural sector, there was a certain liberalization in East Germany during the Honecker era, i.e. Western music became more available, more tolerance for groups like Punks in later years, and so on.
Not really. The methods of the police state just changed and until around 1984 punk was crushed with horrible almost Stalinist methods. The thing about the music is a gross exaggeration too. And by the mid 80s the GDR was the most orthodox state in the East even surpassing the Soviets.

To give an example: There was just a single Western Heavy Metal album that was printed in the GDR by the state owned label Amiga; Highway to Hell in 1980. A few years later you find Metallica and Kreator touring Poland,Yugoslavia and Hungary.

Yugoslavia due to the non-alignment made a shit ton of money for decades by copying western styles and selling them as "socialist" culture to the whole Eastern bloc.