What is the biggest "JUST" in history?

>>2936905
Global capitalism

>>2936962
This.
>30 years ago
THE FREE MARKET WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING

>Now
OMG MUH JOBS! GOVERNMENT! HELP ME PLEASE! SAVE ME FROM COMPETITION!!!

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>>2936905
That Persian governor who destroyed Genghis Khan's trading caravan, and then killed his ambassadors who came to peacefully resolve the situation.

No one, in the entire history of humanity, has fucked up harder than that guy.

>>2936905
Dunkirk
>France gets destroyed
>Germany can't finish off the British when they have the chance because they get stuck in essentially a glorified traffic jam
>Italians get BTFO by the French who are already being destroyed and outnumbered
>British Military runs away after the first skirmishes, sits on a beach the entire conflict and are saved by fishermen, then proceed to hide on their Island until USA joins

>>2936962
This thread isn't "The biggest successes in history"

>>2936976
>HANS YOU ARE HOGGING ZE ROAD! ZE ENTIRETY OF ZE BRITISH MILITARY EES SITTING ON A BEACH DEFENSELESS REICH NOW! MOVE OUT OF ZE WAY!
>*honks Panzer*

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>>2936905
Every time

>>2936975
Sauce?
>>2936905
>biggest " JUST" in history
& Humanities

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>>2936997
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_conquest_of_Khwarezmia

>>Genghis then sent a 500-man caravan of Muslims to establish official trade ties with Khwarezmia. However Inalchuq, the governor of the Khwarezmian city of Otrar, had the members of the caravan that came from Mongolia arrested, claiming that the caravan was a conspiracy against Khwarezmia.

>>Genghis Khan then sent a second group of three ambassadors (one Muslim and two Mongols) to meet the shah himself and demand the caravan at Otrar be set free and the governor be handed over for punishment. The shah had both of the Mongols shaved and had the Muslim beheaded before sending them back to Genghis Khan. Muhammad also ordered the personnel of the caravan to be executed. This was seen as a grave affront to the Khan himself, who considered ambassadors "as sacred and inviolable."[7] This led Genghis Khan to attack the Khwarezmian Dynasty. The Mongols crossed the Tian Shan mountains, coming into the Shah's empire in 1219.[8]

>>In the ensuing war, lasting less than two years, the Khwarezmid Empire was destroyed.

>>2937017
JUST

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>>2937017
Jesus tap dancing Christ. Who can fuck up this badly?

>>2937017
>what are they gonna do, invade me?
[quote from man invaded]

>>2937017
>The shah had both of the Mongols shaved
JUST

>>2936968
Kind of agree. Capitalism is the best system, only retarded gommies disagree. But it only works out best for the workers when everyone is competing on equal ground, not when some slave in China can work for a dollar a day and undercut everyone.

>>2937056
>>2937067
The sack of Baghdad is one of the worse massacres in history. They burnt down the house of wisdom, killed a majority of the population and trashed the complicated irrigation system they'd developed so bad they never could rebuild it.
The shah tried to run and they chased him all the way to the shores of the Caspian Sea.

>>2937059
Made me laugh out loud. 10/10

>>2936905
Fall of Soviet

>>2937017
The guy didn't go down like a bitch though.
Even as the entire city was conquered he was throwing bricks from the top of the citadel at the mongols.

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>>2937017
t. Cracked.

Khwarezmians have all the right to be suspicious: they too were a steppenigger dynasty.

>>2937017
What is it with the mongols that made them so damn good at everything?

>>2937090
a JUST punishment for fucking their cuts up

>>2937082
>but it only works out best for the workers if...

Does it matter?

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>>2936905
>What is the biggest "JUST" in history?

Barbarossa amassing an army 100,000 men strong to kick some saracen ass, only to fall of his horse and drown in six inches of water, 99% of the way to Palestine, leading to his army dispersing for good without doing any fighting whatsoever.

>>2936905
This makes me so mad. This man literally sacrificed everything to save the people from tyranny and this is how he is repaid for his efforts a hundred years later. Pathetic.

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>>2936905
Bolivia

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>>2936905
>What is the biggest "JUST" in history?

>>2936975
>No one, in the entire history of humanity, has fucked up harder than that guy.

False.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbKAefBxKVg

>>2937629
Baitimus Maxiumus

>>2937017
Cengiz didn't do anything wrong here, even today the same thibg would have happened.

>>2937882
Not that guy but commies were actually improving russia.
It just shows how incompetent the tsars were.

>>2937906
>muh factories
>muh commie blocks

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>>2937895

>>2937476
They were (initially) very meritocratic and had no shortage of good, innovative commanders, were completely devoid of honour (no tactic is too dirty, there is only glory in victory), recruited soldiers from the people they conquered and the terrain suited their method of warfare

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>>2937673
Paraguay

>>2937372
didn't the sha flee to an island like a little bitch? or are you talking about the governor in question

>>2937895
myth

>>2937956
>covfefe

>>2937956
Lets wait and see what the orange clown does. For now he's just a laughing stock of the whole world.

>>2937956
Why does /pol/ scum always have to bring their shitty arguments to other boards?

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>>2936905
The weak must fear the str-

>Write letter to mongols to get them to convert to Christianity.
>Spill your spaghetti so fucking hard they go from leaning towards Christianity to basically against it.

>>2936976
>that same frogposter mentioning Dunkirk

Give it a rest already.

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>>2937476
>What is it with the mongols that made them so damn good at everything?
They weren't good at everything?

They never figured out how to fucking run a navy. They were shit bureaucrats who despite adopting meritocracy, paid more attention to your race and your clan within Mongol society.

In the end, the Mongol Empire is a typical Flash-in-a-pan Nomadic empire that was gone within a century. Its only difference was it was big.

>>2938221

They're just eternally buttmad that while the British were on their island "waiting for the USA" (disregard the battle of Britain, North Africa etc), the French were busy serving them coffee and opening their legs to every German soldier who asked for it.

There was a resistance though, which means occasionally they'd serve a slightly stale croissant or fake it.

>>2937986
>bombing Rotterdam was a legitimate strategy
>bombing London was a legitimate strategy
>bombing Warsaw was a legitimate strategy
>bombing Dresden and Tokyo were worse war crimes than the genocide of millions of people

>>2938249
>tell us vere ze juden are and no von will get hurt ja?
fuck the french they rolled over in 1940 doing "le tactical" and get ass mad cos the brits didn't go down fighting and saved themselves, lay down and took it for the best part of 4 years and then when the allies came they attack women who had anything to do with the germans

>>2937979
Well it was a JUST for Obama.

>>2937956
kek'd

>>2937979
Why are you such a whiny babby?

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>>2936905

>>2937956
Boring.

>>2937625
This is the correct answer. The other ones are major fuck ups, yes, but this is the most humiliating "god hates me" event in all of history.

>>2937625
And then centuries later Germans name their invasion of Germany after him. That's like naming you airplane "The Icarus". You're just asking for trouble.

>>2938857
I mean "invasion of Russia". I'm dumb

Munich treaty

>>2936905
>Lenin supported Ukrainian nationalism against Great Russian imperialism
>Still gets smashed for being Russian symbol

>>2937928
Who cares about territory anyway.

>>2938890
No one, that's who

T. Bulgaria, circa 1913

>>2938882
It's not like contemporary Russians even like him that much. Putin blamed him and his bolsheviks for giving what used to be Novorossia to the Ukraine.

>>2936981
We'll go make that thread if you want

>>2938857
>China's invasion of Japan is "Plan Kubilai"
>Hungary's strategy for reuniting the pre 1918 kingdom is called "Zapolya"
>Italy's flagship is The Cardonna

>>2937869
I don't get it

>>2937017
"Look, I know these guys conquered China at a terrifying pace, but they can't be THAT good at war, right?"

>>2937507
Baghdad was an Abbasid city, not Khwarezmian, so you can't really connect the two.

>>2938196
Can you elaborate? Did a pope fuck up?

>>2938358
Yeesh, I somehow thought the Tlaxcala had tons of troops.

>>2938470
>"let's kill the one important person who will give the Slavs autonomy"

>>2938862
We knew what you meant.

>>2938896
Bulgaria in 1913 would make a strong contender for largest "JUST"
>win Balkan War
>Ottomans reduced to "literally who?" status in Europe
>keep Silistra from Romania even though you promised to give it back to them
>get autistic over Macedonia
>wage war on Serbia and Greece, your allies less than a year ago
>leave North and East unguarded
>Romania and Ottomans invade

>>2939073
>Can you elaborate? Did a pope fuck up?
IIRC one of the popes sent one of the Mongol Khans a letter written under the assumption that he was Prestor John. The Khan got it and thought it was fucking insane

>>2939119
Lame. Way to go Pope Doofus.

>>2939128
to be fair even the most educated people in europe at the time would probably make the same mistake.

>>2939073
The entire logic behind Ferdinand getting shot was that he was too nice. The Black Hand was terrified that everyone could make up and be friends, destroying their agenda, so they had to kill the most moderate man on the enemy side to help them radicalize. The most terrifying opponent for a radical isn't another radical, or an overwhelming enemy force. It's Mr. Rogers. It's someone so nice and sweet that when people see the radical pick fights with them, everyone realizes how goddamn stupid the radical is.

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Ethiopia

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>>2939197

>>2939197
>>2939202
JUST refers to self-caused problems.

>>2939223
nope, it refers to any sort of situation where individual is helpless and only thing he can do is observe his shit getting fucked

>>2939169
See, I somehow thought the Black Hand were dumbasses and didn't know how moderate Franz Ferdinand was.

>>2939197
>>2939202
F

>>2936905
the way his head pops off makes me smile

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>>2939028
>"Look, I know these guys conquered China at a terrifying pace, but they can't be THAT good at war, right?"
Northern China. Genghiz was allied with the Southern Song, while the first Mongol forays into Southern China were halted.

Also the Khwarezmians conquered Persia in their own fast pace as well. It's basically steppenigs measuring out other steppenigs.

Especially if you consider the fact that a generation ago, Mongols were collectively looked down upon by every other Central Asian at the time. Them unifying was like one of the African countries starting to carve out a massive empire at the expense of the Europeans.

>>2939279
The mongol campaigns against Nortthern China under Genghis were on their own and Song China couldnt help at all.

The later campaigns along the Yellow River were aided by the Song

>>2939299
I know. What I'm pointing out is the Mongols didnt conquer all of China under Genghiz.

>>2937941
That was the governor.
The shah was a bitch boi.

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>>2936905
Admiral Yi cucking the Japs

Brexit

>>2937629
Ya the millions of dead slavs that starved to death want to have a word with you

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>>2939202
The Derg Regime also tore any chance of a successful Ethiopia.

>>2938227
>that was gone within a century.

It lasted longer than the British empire and sucessor dynasties continued for centuries after the official 'khanates' were gone.

>>2938196

That was the Qing, actually. The Pope sent the emperor a letter under the assumption that he could talk to the goddamn Qing Emperor - well into the height of the empire, mind you - like some literally who Christian king. The Qing emperor responded by kicking out his jesuit advisers (whose missionary work was, funny enough, the reason for the pope's letter in the first place) and forbidding any more missionaries from entering the empire.

>>2937617
This misguided soul doesn't understand that's still capitalism working. And it forces comfy Americans to step up their game past bitch boy manufacturing of McDonald's toys and sneakers. It forces us to keep pushing the pace and the envelope of humanity all while ripping Johnny ching chong out of poverty.

Emperor Julian not putting on his breastplate at the Battle of Samarra. If he had lived, Europe would have stayed Pagan and Christianity would've stayed in the Middle East along with all the other backwards religions

>>2939197
>>2939202
>literally screenshotting /pol/

you are the problem

>>2939510
And those starved by the Great war would like to have a word with you.

>>2939612
4chan is /pol/, little tumblr snowflake.

>>2939642
> /his/ is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect. Do not try to treat this board as /pol/

>>2939653
Too late for that. Trying to control the whole site down to just one board just doesn't work and has never worked. Moot understood that. Let's face it, 90% of the population of every board is pretty much /pol/ influenced. It's futile to try and change that.

>>2939691
but why is /pol/ the only board that is not content with just one board and has to spew shit in countless other boards?

>>2939708
Because /pol/ culture is expanding to the other boards constantly. For example, you have a /tv/ member who visits /pol/ out of curiosity, accidentally gets redpilled and then continues to post on /tv/. Suddenly you hae almost everyone on /tv/ using /pol/ related images and words.

Why? Because /pol/ is the biggest board on this site and the one that gets the biggest amount of exposure from the news and etc. This will never change so you might as well just learn to live with it instead of going against the flow. Your other option is to go back to tumblr where it's exactly the opposite.

>>2939725
Nah, /pol/ cancer should learn to not be triggered from constant btfo's from other board. They are in containment for a reason.

>>2939708
Because /pol/ has been successfully infiltrated by Stormweenies for years now. I used to use /n/ when it was all satire, the wonderful age of pretending to be retarded. Over time Stormfront and other white supremacist sites grasped Poe's Law and that it could be used as a tool. Gradually the target audience for 4chan's news board became people who took it seriously. I find it kind of amusing since white supremacists and other fringe right groups are now targets of Russian campaigns in the same manner. They're turning into shells for foreign interests just like the fringe left used to be.

I have been here for 12 years and I'm not going to be run off by a bunch of kids younger than the site they're trying to shitpost on.

>>2939806
>I have been here for 12 years and I'm not going to be run off by a bunch of kids younger than the site they're trying to shitpost on.
God bless the oldfags who still come here.

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>Charlemagne:"Christians cant into banking.It is Jewy and leads to degeneracy."
>Jew gain hold of all banking in Europe and piggy bank the colonialism and revolutions that lead them to effectively seize world power.
>yfw

>>2939806
Keep fighting that good fight anon

>>2939612
>literally
Your tumblr is showing

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>>2939806

>>2939708
Because you're someone who decided posting before lurking for at least two years is perfectly fine and then loses his shit when someone posts and image that pertains 100% to the topic of the thread, you fucking idiot.

>>2939003
He's a schizo, just leave him be.

>>2936975
you know as well as I do the Khan hid assassins in that caravan.

>>2937617
it does if you want your country to not go down in revolutionary flames eventually

The Chatham Raid of 1667.

>'Our fleet is protected by an iron chain! The Dutch stand no chance!'

>>2936905
Fall of Constantinople

>>2937090

The Mongols didn't sack baghdad until 80 years after talking Persia. And a Muslim in the employ of the Mongols lead the destruction and torture of people after the conquest

>>2940569
no? what would they even do? how and why would they get direct access to anyone important? wouldn't using them just doom the valuable caravan anyway?

>>2937906
The commies sent stalled growth in Russia for 30 years

>>2937617
what, you fancy yourself some kind of elite? piss off

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>>2939575

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>>2936905

>>2939653
The whole website is /pol/ desu

>>2939806
t. redditor who's been here for 12 weeks

>>2940513
This

>>2939634
And the 1/3 of russians killed in the time of troubles would like to have a word with you

>>2941608
Not him but he's right. We've had the emails from stormfront for years now confirming an online recruiting campaign.

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>>2936905

>>2939806
Lmfao sup redditor newfag that's not even what happened on /new/

/n/ was created because people would post news on /b/ and moot decided it should have it's own board. Over time it developed a racist libertarian culture, stormfront was actually made fun of on /new/ and Hitler worshippers were often called stormfags. The only stormfront-esque shit on /new/ was that jew caricature and the hatred of Israel.

In 2011 moot created /pol/ which was a revival of /new/. It was 30% libertarian, 30% stormfag and 30% communist till late 2013 when the stormfags overtook the rest and attracted edgy /b/tards and then in late 2015 the board got overtaken by Trumpfags so it's not even technically neo nazi anymore.

Another thing that outs you as a newfag is the use of the word "satire". 4chan has never actually hosted satire/ironic humor, that shit is the most reddit form of humor in existence. 4chan, /b/ in particular has always been edgy/outrage humor. They pretended to be nazis to make people butthurt not to satirize nazism. You sound like a faggot who read about /new/ and 4chan on KYM based on the amount of inaccuracies in your post. I bet you came here in 2014 or some shit from an epic 4chan greentext screenshot on reddit lmfao.

>>2941708
what was the other ((10%))?

>>2937067
for most of history hair was sacred to asians.
You let your hair grow just as nature intended, and if you were extra spiritual and rich you wouldn't even cut your nails. That where we get the stereotype of old kung fu masters or emperors with long beard and mustache and gangly nails.
If one was to ever be shaved it was a sign of great shame and one of the worst insults.

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>>2939555

It was even more retarded than that. The dispute stemmed from differences over the proper translation of the word "God." The papacy apparently had a few cunning linguists in their midst. The legate was sent there to lecture the errant Jesuits on the proper pronunciation, asked the Emperor to affirm the papal view, to which Kangxi replied, "fuck you, my name's on the goddamned dictionary." The papal case was not aided by the fact that the legate spoke no Chinese.

>>2936976
[gets overrun by Germany with English help while Poland held off Germany and Russia with a shitheap army in about the same length of time]

>>2936905
>the head goes flying off to the side
i cry every tyme

>>2936905
Fall of Berlin

>>2936976
>proceed to hide on their Island until USA joins
What Is North African And Italian theate

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>>2941807
Radical moderates

>>2939806
>>2939824
>>2939905
What fight? Why would you be proud to shitpost on this site for 12 years?

This guy can post on 4chan for a million years he still won't have any effect on someone else posting or even have proof he posted all you're doing is pissing into a sea piss

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>thread derailed by falseflagging newfag
>people take the bait

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>>2936905

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>>2937082
"Capitalism is the best system, but it only works when others aren't more competative then me"

This is the problem with you capcucks, everytime you get out competed you make arbitrary restrictions to your version of capitalism. Just like the commies and their "that isnt real communism." I'm sick of listening to proud capitalists complaining of how hard it is to start a business w/o taking on a ton of risk or how people overseas are willing to work for less or how its impossible to compete with big corps like walmart. Welcome to capitalism dipshit. Its literally the most cut-throat darwinian philosophy there is. If you are going to support it dont whine about it. If you are going to ask for social regulation to "help you out" then stop shitting on socialists because they just had more foresight then you.

>>2941708
Wow, it is refreshing to see someone actually posting some history on this board. Thanks!

>>2943399
Capos:
>have problem
>know how to fix it
>fix it
>new problem
Rinse and repeat.

Commies:
>have problem
>know how to fix it
>fail
>new problem
>Oh God.jpg
[Collapse]

>>2937017
>Genghis Khan besieged Otrar for five months in 1219, eventually breaching its walls. Inalchuq barricaded himself in its inner citadel, and as the Mongols wished to capture him alive in order to publicly execute him, he managed to hold out another month. Eventually he was trapped with his last remaining bodyguards on the upper floors of the citadel, resorting to throwing bricks down on the Mongols, was captured, and executed by means of having molten silver poured into his eyes and ears, though the method of execution might be apocryphal.
Don't forget this.

>>2936975
>Persian governor
>Khwarzmaids
They were Turkics ruling Persia.

>>2943768
JUST

>>2939544
I wouldn't call a feuding collection of rump states an empire.

>>2939806
Hit the nail on the head.
I've been here since 2007. What /pol/ is is what 4chan was making fun of in 2007. It's kind of sad. I'd leave if I had someplace else to go, which is absolutely sad.

>>2938221
why, does this upset you or there are some new facts from Anglo science that Dunkirk never happened?

>>2936905
Fritz Haber really J U S T E D himself pretty hard even after his death

Fourth Crusade.

>>2937673
Reminder that Argentina is the best neighbor you could wish for

>>2941708
He's not wrong about the kind of attention /pol/ attracted though. If you've been here for longer than even a year, you can easily see the massive influx of thedonald refugees. It's like a weird mixture between the old style /b/ outrage posting (because Trump triggers so many people) and stormfag dipshits who really believe it.

I do wish they would have better moderation over it though. Really most boards should follow the /a/ model of being extremely hostile to blatantly off topic posts and enjoying when a thread derails occasionally.

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>>2941696

>>2941708
I don't know what KYM even is man, I came here from YTMND. I've never been to /b/ I started on /a/ because honestly that was the first in the list on the sidebar.

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>>2936905

>>2941948
Kangxi was far more worried that the infighting among the Christians would spill over to actual breaches of the peace and told all of them to fucking leave.

>>2943593
Capos
>Have problem
>WAAAAAH GOVERMENT HEEEELP!!!!!
>Suddenly a protectionist SOB.

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>>2937082
>>2936968
>>2936962
Pro capitalism, against neo-liberalism.

>>2939790
They are not in containment, why don't you fucking tumblrites get this simple fact?
They are 4chan along with all the other boards and no amount of gb2 /pol/ will make them.

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>>2937625
dunno about this one Tim. Pretty sure by the time of this event, he was into his 60's, and some believe he had a heart attack, fell from the horse and died from drowning while incapacitated.

also:
>>2936905
>pic related

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>>2945924
>eastern rome survives 800 years after the fall
>meanwhile in the west a bunch of barbarians go full WE WUZ, calling themselves "holy" and "roman"
>they go to the holy land to kick out the kebabs
>they're broke for some reason so they sack a bunch for christian citizens for venice
>get fucking excommunicated during a fucking CRUSADE
>stuck in byzantium so might as well just take their shit
>200 years later the kebabs take the city, sinking the last remnants of the actual romans for good

Is there a bigger dick move in all of western history?

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>>2937673
>file name
My sides

>>2946014
>eastern
Yes
>rome
No

>>2945006
I miss KYM and YTMND. ;_;

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>>2943399
pretty much this

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>>2937017
How can you even fuck up this badly? Was he actually mentally ill?

>Eventually he was trapped with his last remaining bodyguards on the upper floors of the citadel, resorting to throwing bricks down on the Mongols
JUST

>>2938890
They also lost like 80% of their male population, all ages.

Fourth crusade

>>2941807
Esoteric religious numerologists.

>>2937625
Why didnt anyone help him up then? The picture clearly shows other people around

>>2941708
>then in late 2015 the board got overtaken by Trumpfags
???
My memory must be fucked, the election wasn't that long ago was it?

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>completely invurnerable, never took any combat damage, actual god of war
>death by a single arrow that doesn't even hit any organs

>>2939708
/pol/ is the new /b/

>>2936905
1945

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>>2938470
Defiantly, the ultimate I fucked up.

>>2947033
Not the children's one?

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>>2936976
France you should be nicer to England, we saved you in two world wars.

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1860

>>2947787
JUST

>>2945465
They should've listened to Jesus

>>2947299
even worse the arrow tip had been smeared in shit before it was fired to ensure that the it got infected and the soldier died in a wounded tent rather than on the battle field. That was pretty common stuff in siege warfare, although Homer rather looks down upon it.

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>>2936905

>>2937986
THEY SOWED THE WIND

>>2936968
>The best living standards ever by many factors
>"But some people lost out and are poor"
>poor in a capitalist nation still better than upper middle class in a communist one.

Why are communists so dumb?

>>2939708
>but why is /pol/ the only board that is not content with just one board
How is that in any way exclusive to /pol/? I'm always on /tv/, here, /diy/, and /v/. Should I stop my miscegenation?

Christ you anti /pol/ whiners are worse than a thousand stormfaggots.

>>2939634
>Communism isn't so bad. It's only comparable to the worst war in human history!

Well I'm sold. Where do I sign up to slaughter the rich and middle class?

>>2937017
and that's why you don't shot the messenger

>>2947787
>>2938470
Even though it led to the most devastating wars the world had seen at that point, it did result in the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian empire so that's something I suppose

>>2942361
>first part of african theatre
>overrun starving italian out of supply
>second part
>get ass kicked by Rommel
>literally won El alameim because the italian were again starving and without ammo
>still lose 500 tank despite that you outnumbered them 2 to 1
>to pissed starving paratroopers with molotov
>english ''army''

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>>2952154
yeah but you're not here to post 6 niggerthreads with 50 comments of hatespeech without historical backup

>>2937986
I like how the statue itself is showing an expression of JUST

>>2939555
to be fair

pope is kinda known for burning bridges

>>2939339
that wasn't JUST at all

even the Japanese gotten wet in his presence

>>2940491
and then Hiro created /bant/ to destroy it

>>2941138
Fourth Crusade is the bigger moment

>>2941696
>dat second battle at Thermopylae

>>2949897
that's more of a DAMN RIGHT than a JUST

>>2937625
God didn't let this kafir touch the Holy land

>>2937017
I guess we can all agree that this is the biggest JUST moment in history

with the creation of /pol/ being second

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>>2952931
>pope is kinda known for burning bridges
>pope is also called pontifex

>>2937986
JUST FUCK MY REICH UP

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>>2937017
Holy kek

>>2949897
dumbass this was 1870

>>2938379
In the Netherlands there were 851 bombings done by the allies (often missing their real targets) and 7 by Germans. A lot of medieval cities with more historical importance than Rotterdam, such as Arnhem, Middelburg, Nijmegen (oldest city of the Netherlands), Vlissingen en Zutphen were (almost entirely destroyed during those allied bombings. It's hard to mention Rotterdam while not mentioning all those other bombings with more damage and deads.

does someone have the greentext of Russia's navy travelling across the globe to get JUST during the russo-japanese war?

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>>2941154
What if, and stretch your mind here. The trading caravans were basically a scouting party (wether they knew it or not) for future conquests. The mongols worked with states offered tribute and other services.

Getting caught up in the mongol trading network was basically showing the steppe tribes WHERE the money/goods were, showing them "whose neck to choke" when things weren't looking good on the steppe.

Assassins or not, the caravans were a fuse that the mongols were waiting to be lit.

>>2940569
but the Kara khitai are without honor too!

>>2939642
>MY SAFE SPACE REEEEEEEE
Back to r/the_donald with you

>>2952154
Because other boards post their boards content on their own boards, only /pol/ is allowed to spew its diarrhea everywhere

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>>2955910
I gotchu senpai

Winter War

>>2958174
The best part is the surviving ships had to go all the way back. Poor bastards.

Battle of Stalingrad

>>2939316
They certainly wouldn't have done it without him

>>2957489
Well clearly the mongols didn't need that scouting party since they just rode in and fucked the place up so bad that it's still healing from the damage. Even if the caravans were a trap, taking them in wouldn't possibly have given them a worse result than killing the ambassadors did.

>>2947232
People in heavy armor maybe didn't want to risk drowning. Also, finding anything in rivers is borderline impossible if its deeper than 1/2 metres.

>>2945465
>gods chosen people

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>>2937629
Fuck off

>>2945954
Why do you keep saying Tumblr this and Tumblr that. Litterally shut the fuck up. I go on Pol too but this board is for fucking history. Stop shitting it up, if I fucking wanted to read Pol related content I'd go on there.

Also I don't go on 4pol I go on 8pol just to clarify.

This is for history STFU or get out

>>2947256
Yes it was anon time is speeding by too fast

>>2952115
>The best living standards ever by many factors
>in Scandinavian countries with highly regulated markets

>>2959686
Nicholas II was a nice guy and all, but he was an awful tsar.

>>2943124
At least he got to Moscow.

>>2937082
You must be so open minded. Try to understand that to be sure of something is really close of being dumb. You should put more perspective in the way you see the world. Nothing is binary and everything is now here because of entropy. You being certainly an americunt saying capotalism is the best system is almost ironic. Try first to learn before to talk.

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>>2959719
>this is for history
>posts something completely unrelated to history
I don't know if you fags are being ironic or somebody from /pol/ falseflags as anti/pol/ to make you people look like spergs

This is a 6 day old thread

>>2952154
I agree, we should go to /ck/ to talk about origami, /mlp/ to talk about video games, /o/ to talk about traveling, miscegenation yay!
If you think anyother board comes close to /pol/ on that issue you need to drink bleach.

>>2936905
This Thread got a little derailed but it's a good topic.
>lurkin here

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Yang is definitely up there

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>Become Kaiser
>Get throat cancer
>Die 99 days into your reign
>Your insane son succeeds you and leads Europe into WW I
>justfuckmykaiserreichup.jpg

>>2937017
Muslims have always been the same it seems

>>2936905
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Roncevaux_Pass

>Charlemagne built largest army since fall of Rome
>Charlemagne thought Basques allied with Moors
>Destroyed capital
>When he retreated because of Saxon revolt crossed pass
>Huge losses from Basque counterattack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yarmouk

>Larger Byzantine Army
>Elephants
>Allied Arabs so they can withstand terrain.
>complete loss that leads to kebab victory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Crusade

>Crusades
>attack CHRISTIANS who were a bulwark against Saracens for 500 years.
>Ottoman Turks rise from the vacuum
>Profit?
Not just a meme. Those filthy Venetians gained much from it, even if the Ottomans became a thorn on their side.

>>2946014
Smile and optimism from her face: gone.

Also, source?

>>2961402
What did he do?

The Iraqi invasion of Kuwait was pretty JUST tier.

>Iraq: Kuwait is playing economic warfare we're going to deal with them
>US ambassador: We dont interfere in Arab-Arab relations
>Iraq: *invades*
>US: *Counter invades* and sets up sanctions reducing the country to sub sahara tier.

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>>2963114
Yang of Sui was the last Sui Emperor.

In Chinese history, declining dynasties usually face an uprising of parties that aren't unified and contend with each other with the throne of China like a King of the Hill Deathmatch.

Yang of Sui's rule was so bad that when the inevitable uprising happened, it wasnt like the usual memes of contending multi-faction warring parties, but just the Sui dynasty facing a country that wholeheartedly backed the Li family, a popular family of generals and founders of the Tang Dynasty.

It was the most JUST uprising an outgoing Chink dynasty ever faced: the country in agreement that you suck.

>>2961938
that's what you get for breaking the non-aggression principle

>>2937986

The statute is like "what the fuck is this shit?"

>>2959609

They sure do get messacred a lot for "god's chosen people"

>>2936905
Emu War is top five I'd say.