What would a Nazi-American Cold War look like?

>>2936481
My guess is America would be very annoyingly left-wing just to counter-signal the Nazis, but that would depend a lot on the details.

Are we envisioning something where the Nazis and Japanese divide the Soviet Union and Britain is forced to surrender, but not actually conquered?

>>2936481
People only wrote like a thousand alt-his books on the subject...

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>>2936485
>My guess is America would be very annoyingly left-wing
naaa America would view the nazis as far left. The US would go hyper capitalist and hyper christian to counter-signal the economically centrist, secular nazis

>>2936481
See fatherland. The nazi state decays, fighting an endless unwinnable war in the east, with the farmer-settler-genocide paradigm having shifted to aristocrat-bureaucrat-slavery.

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>>2936481

people don't think the entire soviet union could be conquered right?

>>2936522
See unwinnable war in the east. Soviet government might disintegrate, but with genocide as the defeat condition, the resistance would never, ever, stop. Especially because the us would run guns to them

>>2936522
Why not? The western portion is all that matters.

>>2936522
The Soviets conquered Russia in less than a decade. Who really cares about Siberia anyway? There was always time to pacify it later.

>>2936522
Nothing between the Urals and Baikal is worth a damn anyways.

>>2936538
Because most of these nazi victory alt history maps have the entire soviet union split between Germany and Japan

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Something more interesting for me is what society after the collapse of a victorious Axis would be like, similar to the collapse of the USSR

This also includes the introduction of American capitalism into the region and its effects

>>2938333
That is entierly dependent on how far the nazis get

>>2936534
If they killed of soviet industry and conquered the baltic sea, middle east and central asia the would have maybe been able to starve the population through forest fires or biological weapons in the future. Though that is very costly, it would give america the leverage to defeat the nazis.

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>>2936481

>>2936481
americans would be reverse engineering the literal magic nazis would have needed to win

>>2936481
Pan-Americanism rides again.

>>2938333

I suspect far more violent than the collapse of the USSR.

One other idea I had: Britain as a fascist ally/client of Germany, while Ireland becomes to the US what Cuba was to the Soviet Union. USA directly arms and aids the Provos and there's some sort of Irish Missile Crisis.

>>2938333
>Kosovo

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>>2936481

America uses all those Jewish scientists to finish the bomb first and First Strikes the shit out of Berlin.

>>2936481
>map

Neither the Netherlands nor Switzerland would exist come an Axis victory, and Belgium would be partitioned between Germany and France according to language.

>>2936481
Well we would have to live in a world where the Nazis did not lose or collapse so it's too different from our own to any real judgements

>>2939780
Germany was too aggressive for Ireland to survive long enough for the US to develop them as a forward staging point. If Hitler conquers the UK nothing could reasonably stop him from just hopping to Ireland, and if the UK for some reason joined Hitler on their own than it would be even easier for the Axis to conquer Ireland.

>>2936481
If you knew the Nazi ideology you would know they wouldn't stop until Britain and America fell. There would be no Cold War. Maybe if Japan didn't attack Pearl Harbor but Japan would eventually target Pearl harbor.

Nazi Germany would not survive Hitlers death, there's simply no other person that could emulate his mass appeal, the SS and Heer were already fighting while the war was on, it would devolve into factionalism the minute he died and partisans and nationalists in those former states would have a field day.

>>2939453
That's literally impossible

>>2941957
Also, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Iceland would be part of Germany.

>>2942263
Why?

>>2942609
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Germanic_Reich

>>2936481
>>2936481

I have a hard time imagining Hitler having the discipline required to manage nuclear weapons properly. The Cold War was only really possible because both sides had the self-restraint to slow down and talk things over whenever tension was nearing a tipping point. There were certainly close-calls, but ultimately both sides recognized that it was not in their interest to have a nuclear exchange. There was brinkmanship but also caution.

I just don't see Hitler having the capacity for that kind of diplomatic engagement. He consistently failed to uphold his own promises so it would be difficult for him to negotiate with any sort of credibility. A negotiation isn't possible unless there is some mutual belief between both parties that the other party can and will at least attempt to honor agreements. Hitler broke many of his agreements, and not only that, he did so very rapidly and without remorse. It would be very difficult to negotiate with somebody like that because you'd always expect him to lie.

So basically, in order for any of this to work out, Hitler has to be replaced with somebody with more credibility as a negotiator.

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>>2942609

Lebensraum.

>>2942609
Autism

>>2942609

They might not be directly annexed, but Germany would definitely control them through puppet governments.

>>2936481
Personally i believe they would have backstabbed their allies who held germanic territory, were ideologically different and who kept their jews alive

>>2942748

>who held germanic territory, were ideologically different and who kept their jews alive

Like literally who?

>>2943100
>Like literally who?
where should I start . .. .......... ..?
switzerland ?

>>2943128

Switzerland is a German ally during WW2?

>>2943130
Formally not

>>2943139

So then it doesn't really fit the bill of:

>allies who held germanic territory, were ideologically different and who kept their jews alive

>>2943144
But they made favours to the Germans

>>2943147
with sexual results

>>2943130
Hitler fucking hated the Swiss, he called them a pimple on Europe

>>2943170
stfu u piss ass faggotr

>>2936556
...Except for the core of Soviet wartime industry

>>2943100
Name a german ally who didnt do any of those 3 things

>>2943460

I cannot. That's why I asked the question in the first place.

>>2943468
What?
That doesnt make any sense

>>2943483

>Don't know a thing
>Ask a question to find out
>THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE

>>2943509
>Name someone who did that
>Can you name someone who didnt do that?
>No thats why i asked the question
Makes perfect sense