you can find meaning of life, objective truth, forgiveness of

The Sermon on the Mount is recorded in the Gospel of Matthew and Luke about fifty years after Jesus allegedly gave the sermon. The Gospels of Mark and John say nothing about The Sermon on the Mount and neither do Paul, Peter or John because as the Dead Sea Scrolls reveal, the Sermon on the Mount was recorded in the Book of Enoch, at least 100 years before the supposed virgin birth of Jesus.

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>>2932989
Provide proofs.

>>2932989
yeah which Enoch says he learned in heaven FROM GOD/JESUS
Did you know Jude quotes Enoch as well? Enoch was probably at least partially true occurrences, but it neither supports nor defends either of our claims.

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>>2932999
>supports nor defends
meant it neither attacks nor defends

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Really makes you think

>>2933011
not a argument

>>2933012
>a argument

This is your brain on christshittery

>>2933018
keep bumping

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God bless you OP!

>>2932999
If Enoch was inspired, why is it not in the Bible?

>>2933077
God bless you too my friend!
>>2933083
Never said it was inspired

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>>2933083
It's superfluous information.

>>2933086
>which Enoch says he learned in heaven FROM GOD/JESUS
Not (you)?

>>2933131
yes thats me

>>2932975
How can the teachings of Jesus be objective truth when the bible that preaches his coming is a mess of self-contradiction?

>>2933133
So, if Enoch got his shit from God, how is his book not inspired. And if it is, why is it not in the bible?

>>2933138
gotta give an example
if you overwhelm me with 20 then I'm not going to reply but if you really want to talk then give me your strongest one.
>>2933151
The parts he got from God could be considered divinely inspired, but that doesn't necessarily mean God intended it to be in the bible. God can give revelation to whomever he wants

>>2933174
>gotta give an example
Just want one? How many generations are between David and Jechoniah/Jechonias? Matthew 1 gives 14. Chronicles 3 gives 18.

>>2933182
thats not a contradiction. Matthew skips. There was also a split in Davids family tree legally through Jewish marriage law shenanigans which explains the differences between Matt and Luke

>>2933185
>So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

It is a contradiction, and he's very deliberately distorting the "historical" record to come up with his magical 14 generations between important happenings. But yeah, that's cool, just ignore a couple of generations so you get to the number that it's supposed to be.

>>2933192
Jews were very meticulous record keepers and Matthew was writing primarily for a Jewish audience so a deliberate distortion would have made it easily refutable by the Jewish leaders

>>2933195
>Jews were very meticulous record keepers
[citation needed]

>and Matthew was writing primarily for a Jewish audience
Truly, which is why it's in Greek and not Hebrew or Aramaic.

>so a deliberate distortion would have made it easily refutable by the Jewish leaders
You ever wonder why Christianity was so much more popular among Gentiles than among Jews? Hint, it's because of all these problems between the OT and the NT.

>>2933199
The first Christians were Hellenistic Jews, thats why they'd read it in Greek
It spread through Rome quickly because Christ commanded the apostles to teach it to those outside of Israel after he resurrected
its obvious the Jews would keep a record of David's line because the Messiah was expected through his seed

>>2933206
>The first Christians were Hellenistic Jews, thats why they'd read it in Greek
[citation needed]
>It spread through Rome quickly because Christ commanded the apostles to teach it to those outside of Israel after he resurrected
YOu mean Paul spread it throughout the Gentiles, and incidentally, made up a bunch of stuff. (by the way, why is an "expert" Pharisee unable to tell the difference between a paschal offering and a sin offering? Why does he think the entire purpose of the Temple was for sin offerings? Does the coming of Jesus mean that people no longer need to give thanks or make peace or devote the fruits of labor to God?)

>its obvious the Jews would keep a record of David's line because the Messiah was expected through his seed
It's not obvious at all. There's no mention of anyone doing any such thing in the Old Testament, or any other history by anyone.

>>2933219
read acts
What are you saying about Paul? He was a liar? What would he gain from lying?
yes there is, we're talking about such records right now.

>>2933227
>read acts
Really? What about Acts says that the first Jews were hellenists? Acts only takes up the narrative once Jesus dies, and you have about 120 "families" worth of Christians already, many of whom are from Galilee. Are you saying Galilee was particularly hellenized? I don't know what you're basing that on.

>What are you saying about Paul? He was a liar?
Pretty much.

>What would he gain from lying?
Beats the hell out of me, but it's pretty apparent, given that he's profoundly ignorant of even basic stuff.

>yes there is, we're talking about such records right now.
What records? There are no records, and there's not even a mention of such outside Christian apologetics like you who say that they "obviously" existed because your heads are so far up your own asses you need clear navels to be able to see, but can never actually source to any.

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>>2933278
next

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>>2933281
cont

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>>2933285
continuation

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>>2933288
suivant

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>>2933289
the next one

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>>2933291
Fin

>>2933291
is this gnosticism or something

>>2933293

Valentinian gnosticism

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>>2933296
>Valentinian gnosticism

>>2932975
No
There is no god but god