Who were some great leaders that were not charismatic?

>>2919142
Bernie Sanders

>>2919142
any leader that ruled through fear

>>2919147

fpbp

>>2919142
A lot of great leaders weren't charismatic.

>>2919142
Thomas Jefferson was pretty autismo when he spoke

Mike "pick out decor, taste the hammer of Thor" Pence

Right now all I can think of is Hitler (depending on how you define a great leader,). Yes, he was skilled when it came to speaking in front of large crowds, but he did not know how to interact with people in smaller groups or one on one. I remember one of my professors saying he wasn't promoted while in the army because all of his superiors thought he was an awkward weirdo.

Tiberius

>>2919142
Tsar Nicholas considering how little support he got.
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>>2919147
Even if you dislike these people they are charismatic.

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>>2919142
Calvin "Wojack" Coolidge

>>2919590
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClR9tcpKZec
> The only existing recording of Hitlers normal voice

sounds pretty charismatic to me desu

>>2919147
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>>2919611
Bernie Sanders isn't a great leader and he isn't charismatic, he just gets a lot of press and has a large social media following in blue states. He's probably controlled opposition.

>>2919352
This. Adams as well.

>>2919605
came here to post him
people focus too much on the creepy paranoid purgefest of when he was a dead inside old man. even though that was where he ended up he was one of the top tier generals in roman history before he was even emperor, mostly managed to maintain what augustus accomplished while he was alive, and left rome appreciably richer even after withdrawing.

>>2919843
Which one?

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>>2919611

>>2919611
I like Pence though, and he isn't charismatic