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Are the national identities of MENA nations irreparably tied to Islam? 2017-06-05 12:37:40 Post No. 2909771
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Are the national identities of MENA nations irreparably tied to Islam?
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2017-06-05 12:37:40
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If Iranians can LARP as the cultural successors to the Persian Empire and celebrate ancient figures like Cyrus, and Egyptians or Iraqi people ever reclaim Mesopotamia or ancient Egypt as being their own history? Because it kind of seems like most nations in the Islamic world usually identify more as Muslims than their actual nation. Besides the obvious exceptions like Turkey and Iran.
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Moroccans see themselves as something other than "Muslim Arabs" iirc.
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I don't think so because the indigenous inhabitants still exist, ie. the assyrians, chaldeans in Iraq and the copts in Egypt so it's hard to go full FYROM at this point.
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>>2909771
>LARP
Its not larping if its a continuous living tradition, it would be larping if its a revival of something which has already been long dead and gone, so Iranians are not larping, Turks aren't larping if they claim Ottoman heritage but certainly are if they claim Turkic and Hittite culture, and by the same logic, yes Arabs would be larping if they claim to be Egyptians and Mesopotamians, since the thing is would just be larping reconstruction based solely for 'muh unique identity' rather than culmination of the people culture itself
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>>2909771
Tunisians and Libyans see themselves as Carthage successors
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Nationalism (at least how most Western people conceive it) is not compatible with Islam.
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>>2909771
What National Identity?
If anything, insisting that that "Syrian" ""Iraqi"" """Jordanian""" nations exist is larping. It doesn't reflect the reality that tribal/dynastic/religious divisions in the region.
The Middle East is better ruled by Empires really rather than meme nation-states.
>If Iranians can LARP as the cultural successors to the Persian Empire and celebrate ancient figures like Cyrus
Totally different: Iranians basically base their idea of statehood both on Islam and the Iranic ethnocultural heritage.
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>>2909881
>If anything, insisting that that "Syrian" ""Iraqi"" """Jordanian""" nations exist is larping. It doesn't reflect the reality that tribal/dynastic/religious divisions in the region.
This right here
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>>2909872
>that's kind of triggering, considering the Lebanese are actually descended from the Phoenicians
Where's the proof for this? I thought Phoenician DNA was everywhere
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