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Why did the development of mathematics pretty much stagnate after the Greeks until the Renaissance?

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Literally because of christianity.

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Christian dark ages

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>>290951

Math tends to develop when applications requiring more advanced math crop up.

Greek and Roman math had already licked a lot of the problems of the day, mostly involving astronomy and building construction, and there wasn't much of a call for anything more sophisticated until the Renaissance, when the development of telescopes allowed for better astronomical observations, which in turn led to a need for better astronomical models to explain the observations, which in turn meant a need for more advanced mathematical techniques.

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It continued developing with the Arabs/Persians and then in the 12th and 13th century with Western Europe

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you actually have that backwards my friend

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>>290979

da Vinci is the most overrated "genius" of all times

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>>290994

Does anyone have a version of that pic large enough to be readable without getting instant myopy?

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Were the Oxford Calculators medieval or Renaissance men?

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>until the Renaissance

Full retard.

Mathematics took off again during the Gothic, especially in the 14th century at Paris and Oxford. Then it stopped completely during the Renaissance, and most of the Gothic progress was even forgotten. It only started again in the 17th century with Enlightenment.

The Renaissance was a dark age for science and mathematics.

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>>291012

medieval

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>>291020

So why did it died until the Enlightenment?

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>>291027

Neoclassicism, or 'The Greeks can do no wrong, stop asking'

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>>291027

You mean between Gothic and Enlightenment, during the Renaissance? Because academia became dominated by Humanism, which rejected all medieval progress as a product of the "dark ages", and only accepted ancient Greek and Roman works.

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>>290994

Always wondered why most of these pictures and history of mathematics in general totally omit Egyptian mathematics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_mathematics

What I understand, even the geometry and mathematics used in building huge monolithic structures like Pyramids were pretty much unknown even to the Greeks.

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>>290969

kinda strange given the massive advances in construction that happened during the medieval era

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>>291020

>Who are Fibonacci, Tartaglia and Cardano

In your meme countries maybe

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>>291050

>Fibonacci

Not Renaissance

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>>291046

Yeah, but the geometry of the day, while borrowed mostly from the Greeks and Romans, was pretty good for that. An arch is an arch is an arch, even if you make it a flying buttress, the underlying calculations and the methods used to reach them are the same.

IIRC (And I'm hardly an expert on either Roman or medieval/renaissance architecture) the biggest change was the invention of scaffolding, which made it far easier to build up.

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>>290994

>Liebniz

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>>291053

>Mathematics took off again during the gothic at Paris and Oxford

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>>291050

Three pretty irrelevant names in the history of mathematics, and Fibonacci was born in the 12th century.

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>>291078

Sorry Luigi, Italy is really good at bounless arrogance and shit-talking, but not much else.

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>>291078

>especially

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>>291078

Who are Jean Buridan, Nicolas Oresme, and the Merton Calculators?

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>>291134

meme country mathematicians?

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>>291160

>calling France and England meme countries while being unironically Italian

kekkest of tops

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>>291173

anally devastated frog detected

sorry pal, you can only beat us in baguette production

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>>291187

Well the French certainly could never beat you at covering their streets in trash, failing at every fucking war they fight in, and having a terribly shit economy.

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>>290951

>le dark ages maymay

Epic

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>>291203

Lel

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It didn't? There were lots of Algebraic and Geometric advancements in that time.

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>>290951

Ohhhhh boy here we go.

It didn't stagnate, complex mathematics were still being studied in Persia, gah, why does everyone still keep saying this?

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>>291203

meme opinions for a meme country

fitting

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>>291246

There is a consistent belief that Egypt invented everything, the Greeks borrowed from them and spread the knowledge to Europe.

It seems to correlate with the advancement of Egyptology.

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>>291266

>meme

But hey, at least you have your fucking awful driving tradition to be proud of. It takes real skill to make the streets of Russia look safe and well organised in comparison.

Not even Baguette. I just find it laughable how some fuckwit from some irrelevant shithole that may as well be bought out in the next 50 years by the 4th reich tries to elevate the shithole he lives in to the level of an actual country.

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>>291281

That's not entirely off base tho.

I wouldn't say Greek architecture is outright lifted from Egypt, that's silly, but if I recall correctly there's a rather tenable theory that (roughly speaking) early Greeks saw a bit of Egypt and got inspired. Started with copying some architectural techniques (and sculptural) then the Greeks branched off into their own thing.

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>>291020

This.

The most important name is definitely Oresme. He worked in the 14th century, and among many other things he invented the mathematical funtion and its graphical representation, and applied it to solve physics problems, discovering the mean speed theorem in the process. In doing this he invented calculus and founded Western Mathematics, as well as a cornerstone of the scientific method.

No other mathematician comes anywhere close until Descartes.

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>>291346

>not even baguette

>gets this mad even if it's clear bait

>posts naples as an example of anything

Enjoy getting keked into oblivion

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>>291398

You're the only one who seems mad here, Luigi.

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>>291347

The thing is, it wasn't asymmetrical, the Mediterranean civilization gave to Egypt more than was given back.

Around the time of the Bronze Dark Age, Mediterranean civilization disappeared, events such as the Sanotrini Volcano and disappearance of the Minoans gave the Greeks a kind of Amnesia.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorini#Dating_of_the_Bronze_Age_eruption

The Greeks were in contact with Egypt from a very early time, there is evidence of Greek traders at Naucratis from the Minoan period.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naucratis#Archaeological

It was later on that Greeks got the idea that Egypt spawned their civilization, when in fact the Greeks were a part of a wider Mediterranean civilization that encompassed Egypt as well as Greece.

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>>291404

Sure, sure mate ;^)

Is it halal to write this late at night?

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>>291420

God you even suck at banter, is there even a single thing Italians are competent at?

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>>291354

> In doing this he invented calculus

What is Leibniz?

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>>291515

Leibniz lived 350 years later m8...

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>>291515

Oresme started it all. Leibniz just got on the bandwagon and developed it

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>>291027

The greeks did nothing wrong.

Fuck you middle ages

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>>291126

History is one of the humanities

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>>291565

The problem during most of the Middle Ages was that they had such a huge respect for the Greeks that they never dared to question them and never moved beyond their work.

All that changed after 1277, and for a short century there was the beginning of a scientific revolution, but then the Renaissance came and everyone went back to worshiping the Greeks.

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>>291587

It wasn't even really a problem in the middle ages considering it still worked in regards to architecture

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>>291580

>they say so on wikipedia

Oresme invented the mathematical function. That is the foundation of calculus and it's absolutely revolutionary. The fact that this (like all medieval achievements) has historically been ignored doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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>>291580

>Meanwhile, in the real world

You lost all your credibility when you resorted to cheap rhetoric instead of disproving the argument, lad

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>>291587

>they never dared to question them and never moved beyond their work.

they did question them, there just wasnt any reason to believe otherwise.

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>>290961

Even the pagan romans never produced talented mathematicians. They focused in more applied knowledge.

>>291045

But the greeks where the first to apply the deductive method to mathematics. Mesopotamian\Egyptian math was used as a tool while the focus for greek mathematicians where on proofs.

>>290994

> no Cantor

> no Hilbert

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>>290951

Because the Greeks pushed synthetic euclidean geometry to it's fucking limits.

Viete followed by Fermat (and Descartes but he sucked) opened the door to symbolic algebra. After that modern mathematics and science snowballed.

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>>290994

>Hypotia on here for literally no reason.

She is the worst waifu.

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>>291061

Well friend if you're not an expert on Roman or medieval architecture then why are you talking about it.

The advances in construction that happened during the Gothic era were not Greek and Roman at all, even in their calculations. The "broken arch" was a movement away from the classical, as was the rejection of their standards of perfect symmetry. Flying buttresses were considered a new invention because of the ability to distribute the weight from the broken arches and create walls that were made mostly of glass (something unseen again until the discovery of steel) for aesthetic reasons. To say that underlying mathematical calculations and methods are the same when discussing a "modern" innovation is like saying a car was really a Mesopotamian design because they came up with the wheel.

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>>290957

>Literally because of christianity.

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>>293560

They banned the number zero. Just stop and think how retarded that is.

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>>293971

What? Gerbert d'Aurillac introduced that concept to the West and then he became fucking Pope.

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>>293971

>The myth that the Catholic Church tried to ban the use of the number zero has grown more popular in recent years. The journalist Charles Seife managed to write an entire book (Zero: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea) about how zero was banned without ever realising his central argument has no foundation in fact. The same myth was passed on in Peter Atkins' Galileo's Finger and Felipe Fernandez-Armesto’s 1492. It is true that, when Arabic numbers were first introduced into the West, there was no agreement over which numeral should refer to which number. To this day, our zero means five in the Middle East. As a result of this potential for confusion, Arabic numerals were banned from some official documents. This might be the origin of the legend that the Church tried to forbid zero." http://www.strangenotions.com/debunking-the-mythical-conflict/

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>>290979

>Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1591)

what the fuck

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