Did the holocaust really happened?

>>2904287
Yes it happened. There is enormous evidence to this effect, namely where the fuck did all those Jews go if they weren't murdered?

But if you really think that it's a hoax, ask yourself this. It's been 72 years since the end of the war. The overwhelming majority of the world is pretty firmly convinced that the Holocaust happened. If it in fact did not happen, that means that someone, or many someones, have faked it all up; that in turn requires a conspiracy of colossal power to keep it going across rival political groups for the better part of a century with no end in sight. Do you really think that such a colossal conspiracy could emerge and be so all-powerful that it can stop all dissent everywhere?

>>2904297
Yes I know that these theories are just conspiracy theories. But some the most powerful people in the world are jews. This is why I don't trust to anything, because the history is written by the winners.

>>2904297
where are the bodies?

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>>2904287
No
Source: This book told me so, so it must be true

>>2904309

>This is why I don't trust to anything, because the history is written by the winners.
Then you're an idiot. Ever hear of the Lost Cause? The Dolchstoßlegende? "History is written by the winners" is nonsense, unless the "losers" are more or less completely wiped out. Where are those huge volumes of Mongolian history when their empire was on top? Or Achmaenid Persian history, why was so much of it written by the Greeks, even when the Greeks themselves were tiny, poor, irrelevant shitholes on the edge of the empire.

>>2904311
Well, most of the Einsatzgruppen victims are in mass graves in the Ukraine, Belorussia, and the Baltic states. KZ victims are predominantly ash and dumped into local rivers and swamps. You could go sifting for them in Poland, I guess.

By the way, where are all the bodies of the Rwandan genocide? Or the Armenian genocide?

Yes.

Is there a /pol/ raid going on?

>>2904323

History is re-written by the losers.

:^)

>>2904506

ain't 'dat 'tha 'truf boss

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>>2904515
but da boys neva lose

>>2904287
Yes, it happened, on such an industrial and organized scale that the documentation of it in German communication channels are everywhere, even down to full transcriptions of the minutes for the Wannsee Conference.

The reason why people dispute the body count is because those there are portions that were killed in the camps themselves and other large groups killed all around Europe, mainly in German-occupied Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, and western Russia. As special units like the Einsatzgruppen were tasked with rounding up local populations of jews and other undesirables and killing them out in the open, mainly along riverbanks and dense forests.

and the Einsatzgruppen wasn't killing small patches of people here and there, records have them killing as many as 15,000+ daily at their height, and around 5-7,000 daily on average, killing more than 2 million civilians throughout the war just with their round-up operations.

>>2904287
Maybe, maybe not
I don't particularly care

Could we say that executing the Holocaust played a role in Germany's losing the war? I mean, they not only executed people who could be in the front, but also diverted personnel and equipment to manage the extermination. It soulds like such a stupid thing to do when you are fighting a war.

I mean, if I were Hitler and were still viciously anti-semitic, I would basically do the following:

>Conquer everything
>Deport Jews to reservation
>Give amnesty to the ones that contributed significantly to the war effort (men who went to fight and women who produced sufficient output)

>>2904905
Just put them in the first lines as cannon fodder as every country that wanted to get rid of a group has done since forever.

Is this a parody?

>>2904287
no dont believe his on this one. They are right on a lot of things but this shit is something they are too dumb for.
Someone post that imgur /his/ likes so much

>>2904297
yes you fucking idiot it can.
As the jews control the flow of money they get to set what the current flow of opinion is idiot.

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>>2904905
But that was actually plan.
>subdue UK
>send Jews to Madagascar, where taking their possessions
Thing is there was that small failure called Operation Barbarossa.
Suddenly Germans faced gigantic shortage of able men, horses and food. And lack of two first thing lead to to bigger lack of food.
Wehrmacht was in 90% relying on horse transportation and horse towed artillery. taking horses and men from farms lower food production. This lead to massive scale forced labor to supplement lack of manpower in industry and farming.
During war against France Germany relied on food, oil and raw materials supplied by USSR. But with Operation Barbarossa it ended.
Germans not only need to supply their army on the move but also local population and POWs that they take a massive amounts.
Of course they have neither food or logistical capability to do that. Scorched Earth tactics used bu Soviets do not help.
That lead to forcing requisition or simply foraging by German units on Eastern front and lead to brutalization of the war when peasant resist food and horses and livestock requisition. Peasants didn't really care for USSR or communism but for land and food. Germans keep kolhos for easier management so peasants do not get land and Army take food or livestock that was not evacuated by Soviets.
Jews fate were planned to used as trading card with negotiation with USA but they do not give a damn about them(like before war when they refuse to take Jewish refuges). Jews were mostly contracted in labor camps as industry workers but with low rations and food shortages sickness and diseases spread and kills plenty.
Executions happen also but not only with Jews but also Poles and Soviets PoWs that millions were starved to death. Local paramilitary groups also take their share with purges with German blessings.
There were also about 250k Jews (or mixed) that serve in German army and plenty Jews in NSDaP or bureaucracy with honorary Aryan certificates.

>>2904949
>it's a /pol/tard implies every historian has been bought by da spooky joo conspiracy episode

>>2904952
>it's a /his/torian believing every mainstream (((((((FACT)))))))

>>2904333
>>2904649
>>2904905
>>2904323
>>2904297
Holy shit you guys are a blue pilled fucking bunch.
Keepin sleeping sheeps

>>2904968
Oh shit, le ebin parentheses meme, you sure showed me.

>>2904979
yes keep that pillow above your face, don't even consider a differing opinion you mind controlled slave.

>>2904993
I only consider opinions supported by evidence, sorry.

Holocaust deniers can't explain

>Where the millions of Jews deported to Auschwitz and the Reinhard camps went
>Why even Fred Leuchter found cyanide traces in Krematorum I and the ruins of Krematorium II and III
>Why are there remnants of holes in the ruins of the roofs of Auschwitz Krema basements
>Where were going the Jews whose pictures were taken right in front of Auschwitz crematoria, considering that those were in rather isolated regions of the camp
>Why the SS building department evaluated the crematorium ovens of Auschwitz as capable of burning thousands of people per day

And they expect to be taken seriously.

>>2904970
Weird, it looks like the argument got cut off your post somehow

>>2905003
So if mister schlomo said that the holocaust definitely happened because of his evidences despite the fact that we do KNOW what the international jewry is able and capable of you still believe his lies.
k /his/ proving itself once again

>>2904905
No, not really. The odds were phenomenally against them, and most of the victims were people of occupied countries, Poland bieng the single biggest source of victims. They are not people that could effectively be recruited, and the amount of resources diverted was relatively minor when you consider how much material a fighting force in the double digit millions requires on a dialy basis.

>>2904970
Thank you so much mister /pol/man for redpilling me. Now I know that whites, who are superior to everyone else, are tricked by the jews.

>>2905030
No, I don't know what "international jewry is able and capable of", and implying that every historian is "mister schlomo" doesn't help your case. What I do know is the amount of lies I've read stormfags post and the degree to which you retards are brainwashed.
Don't waste your time replying if you are going to write references to vague conspiracies instead of evidence.

>>2904333
Yes. Some faggot yesterday went on /pol/ and told everyone how much /his/ changed his life and made him abandon the "redpill philosophy". Now this shit is happening.

>>2905039
amen

>>2905045
Who the fuck cares what your little dumb liberal brain thinks? You only believe in jewish nonsense.
You can't be repaired if your rotten inside.

>>2905066
>he fell for the eternal Kraut's autism magick

>>2905066

If whites can be manipulated by Jews so easily, then obviously Jews are the superior race.

>>2905074
>If I am tricked the one who tricked me should rule the world

>>2905085

Well honestly yeah. If the Jews manage to have this level of influence despite being a tiny minority then they're obviously superior.

>>2905085
That's how it goes.

>>2905085
But whites should rule over blacks, amirite?

>>2905085
Yes, that is exactly how it works

>>2905020
>>Where the millions of Jews deported to Auschwitz and the Reinhard camps went
The base assumption is a lie (millions)
You can't refute something if there is nothing to refute.
>Why even Fred Leuchter found cyanide traces in Krematorum I and the ruins of Krematorium II and III
This was never acknowledged beside him.
>Why are there remnants of holes in the ruins of the roofs of Auschwitz Krema basements
Same with the shoes.
Those poor jews those are LITERALLY their shoes!

>as capable of burning thousands of people per day
another BIG fucking lie
You know what you brainless holocaust believers why don't you explain to me why Heynrich never wrote even once this fabled "systematic eradication of the jews" in his documents?

>>2905094
>>2905095
>>2905097
>>2905085
k
Just checking the cuckiness of /his/

>>2905066
Sure, asking for evidence is jewish nonsense. Believing in retarded conspiracies from infographics of a chinese cartoon forum is being redpilled. Fuck off to your containment board brainlet.

>the international jew conspiracy has enough power to trick most of the world into believing the holocaust happened but not enough to stamp out dissent from autistic NEETs on anime image boards
>whites are the master race even though they're apparently easily manipulated into racial suicide by jews
/pol/fags just never learn do they

>>2905110
Established evidence is easy to believe.
Finding out the real truth is hard.
This is where you fail containment drone

>>2905108
>Believe in the Philosophy of the Strong should rule the weak
>Except when it contradicts with My Worldview of Whites being Supreme.
Stop being a massive hypocrite. You can't have it both ways

>>2905114
>>the international jew conspiracy has enough power to trick most of the world into believing the holocaust happened but not enough to stamp out dissent from autistic NEETs on anime image boards

However funny you think it is they fucked up when they made the internet accessable outside of the pentagon.

>>2905129
National Socialism is not about "strong should rule the weak"
This is where you fail too.

>>2905116
>the "real" truth is not that which is supported by evidence but what muh feels want
Literal retard.

>>2905139
you can twist it however you want it kiddo
Your nose is showing for those "official" evidences.

>>2904287
They only thing about the Holocaust that bothers me is that denial is illegal in 22 countries while, you have entire governments denying the Armenian genocide. I don't think there are any laws about Cambodian genocide denial or Holodomor either.

Perhaps none of those other events were as severe, but still seems kind of unfair.

>>2905133
>A time will come, even though in the distant future, when there can be only two alternatives: Either the world will be ruled according to our modern concept of democracy, and then every decision will be in favour of the numerically stronger races; or the world will be governed by the law of natural distribution of power, and then those nations will be victorious who are of more brutal will and are not the nations who have practised self-denial.
>Man must realize that a fundamental law of necessity reigns throughout the whole realm of Nature and that his existence is subject to the law of eternal struggle and strife. He will then feel that there cannot be a separate law for mankind in a world in which planets and suns follow their orbits, where moons and planets trace their destined paths, where the strong are always the masters of the weak and where those subject to such laws must obey them or be destroyed. Man must also submit to the eternal principles of this supreme wisdom.
>The race that fails to come through the test will simply die out and its place will be taken by the healthier and stronger races, which will be able to endure greater hardships.
>The stronger must dominate and not mate with the weaker, which would signify the sacrifice of its own higher nature. Only the born weakling can look upon this principle as cruel
>But such a preservation goes hand-in-hand with the inexorable law that it is the strongest and the best who must triumph and that they have the right to endure.

>>2905148
You have laws against armenian genocide denial too, and you have governments denying the holocaust too, so they're bad examples. But I agree that they shouldn't exist.

>>2905163
Its about uniting and creating the übermensch not ruling over like the fuckin jewish bankers you dummy.

>>2905148
There are laws about the Cambodian and Rwandan genocide too.

Kagame will personally come to your house and beat the shit out of you.

>>2904287
yes. sage

>>2905177
>we need to be brutal to other nations
>it is a natural law that the strong are masters of the weak
>races that aren't aggressive will be taken over by stronger ones
>the strong must dominate the weak, if you complain about this you are weak and you should fuck off
>the strongest is the only one with a right to endure
H-h-h-h-he didn't want to rule anyone! H-h-itler wuz a good boi, it's the fault of DA JOOS!

>>2905177

I still don't understand how Jews can be simultaneously communist and bankers.

>>2905191
again its about creating the übermensch for the betterment of the world instead of cockroach bankers rotting the world to oblivion you sad sad little man.

>>2905144
you sure showed him, evidence is for the weak, 6 million people vanished, the earth is flat 2pac is alive lizard people jump ship

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>>2905197
UNIRONICALLY BELIEVING THE 6 MILLION AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHHAHAAH
holy shit pol did warn me but you guys are dumb beyond belief

>>2905193
You can literally rationalize anything if you really want to believe retarded shit. Seriously, come up with any event in recent history and I assure you I can come up with some retarded explanation of how jews are responsible.

>>2905194
>America and Britain are zionist puppets
>produce a massive, sustained boom in technological development, dramatic increases in life expectancy, and the greatest increase in individual standards of living ever to exist
>Germans are glorious Aryans
>produce nothing but chaos, warfare, and hatred

>the zionists are the bad guys

>>2905203

If Hitler didn't kill Jews then what was the point of Hitler? If he didn't actually kill 6 million jews then he really accomplished nothing.

>>2905207
>produce a massive, sustained boom in technological development, dramatic increases in life expectancy, and the greatest increase in individual standards of living ever to exist
Yes because the germans didn't do this on a higher level...

>>2905194
Even for a retarded stormfag, it surprises me the amount of doublethink necessary for you to believe that your statement of "National Socialism is not about strong should rule the weak" is not wrong after reading hitler's direct quotes stating the exact opposite. Then again, what should I expect from someone that thinks asking for evidence is "jewish nonsense".

>>2905203
You sure showed all of us. Now you can fuck off to /pol/.

>>2905208
If you think that he didn't accomplish anything you still need to learn more.

>>2905216
Correct.

Germans didn't invent the steam engine, the railroad, Bessemer steel, Penicillin, or the internet.

Germany's greatest contributions to humanity were communism and the world wars.

>>2905216
>didn't do this on a higher level...
They didn't. HItler's "magnificent" regime led to Germany being destroyed and split between two other countries.

>>2905223

If he didn't actually kill Jews then he obviously accomplished nothing.

>>2905226
k

>>2905226
Don't forget German pussy, which is fucking easy to obtain, particularly if you're a foreigner.

>>2905219
It's not my fault that you are unable to understand what hitler was aiming for you obtuse fuck.
One day once you know more you will know that I was right

>>2905228
He's right that having Germany occupied, partitioned, and brutally raped was a pretty good accomplishment.

>>2905235

Successful leaders don't need to be posthumously explained. They were successful in their own times and lived to see their goals became reality.

>>2905235
Sure stormnigger, one day I will realize that the true path to knowledge are propaganda infopics, that asking for evidence is jewish, and that hitler wanted the exact opposite of what he wrote.

>>2905103
Not him, but all of those are legitimate holes in the holocaust denial story, and you didn't actually refute any of them. Just saying that something is "lies" shows you don't actually have any of the information necessary to refute the points.
There are Nazi documents showing the amount "processed" in the Reinhard camps. This is a fact. If they weren't killed, where did they go? There are similar documents like the Jager report documenting the activities of the Einsatzgruppen. As well as documents from Chlemno requesting more vans for "processing."
If you actually look dispassionately at the evidence and THEN make conclusions, there is plenty of it.

>>2905249
>still not being able to understand a thing
Sure buddy go on being the laugh of your family

>>2905242
What is success?
Was Jesus successful? Almost all great man died before his vision could be completed.

>>2905249
>and that hitler wanted the exact opposite of what he wrote.
Not him but you are really fooling yourself if you believe that he didn't want to create the übermensch

>>2905275
Follow the the chain of posts. The discussion is about this statement >>2905133.

What always gets me about Holocaust deniers is that the Nazis, were they still around today, would be pissed about it. They saw the destruction of European Jewry as their most lasting achievement. I think it was Eichmann who said he would "leap laughing into the grave" knowing he had successfully killed so many.
Furthermore, if it really was a gigantic fraud, why didn't any of them say anything to that effect? Every single Nazi who's ever been tried used the "following orders" defense. They didn't stand up and shout "what genocide?? There was no extermination, this is all made up!" There were plenty of trials, not just the "rigged" Nurenberg trials deniers love to criticize. Why, in none of these, did the Nazis not use the defense of "there was no Holocaust"?
tl;dr even the Nazis themselves acknowledged there was a Holocaust. That seems like undeniable evidence

>>2905275

>Constantly raves about how he's going to kill Jews
>Finally gets into power and kills lots of Jews
>Dies thinking "well this sucks but at least I killed all those Jews"
>Years later his own supporters deny that he killed Jews

>>2905281
But I mean his ultimate purpose wasn't to be the king of the world, he only wanted to create a strong european man who wouldn't falter in the face of anything.
I don't see anyting wrong with that and that doesn't necessarily mean he would genocide "weaker" people.

>>2905295

No, he tried to genocide stronger people like Slavs and got defeated for it. Don't fuck with Slavs, man. They'll hack your elections and put a reality TV host in charge of your country.

>>2905283
maybe they wouldn't agree with the 6 million claim though.

>>2905295
What you say is in direct contradiction with both his words and his actions, anon. I posted quotes in this same thread of hitler saying that the strong races should dominate the weak ones, that only the strong ones have the right to endure, and that not wanting to brutally expand the territory of your race equals self denial. Seriously, what kind of mental juggles are you people doing?

>>2905250
Providing jewish evidence isn't actually true either desu senpai

>>2905263

Explain how Jews and Slavs are considered non-white yet are the same time apparently Japanese are considered white.

>>2904287
Mods. It is absolutely intolerable that you would leave a holocaust denial thread up for 6 HOURS. I really hope you have a good explanation for this.

>>2905323
japanese were considered aryan because of the values they represented and represent still today.
Slavshit doesn't represent anything worthy

>>2905331
>Slavshit doesn't represent anything worthy

Really, they seemed to make themselves really worthy of Aryan pussy.

>>2905331

Slavs apparently disagreed with that statement as they were able to rise up and defeat Hitler easily.

>>2904949
So according to you the Jews controlled both the West and the USSR during the Cold War? But then was the Cold War just an enormous hoax?

>>2905350
zerging something sure is hard

>>2905322
How is the evidence Jewish if it came from the Nazis themselves? They were the opposite of Jews

>>2905283
>Why, in none of these, did the Nazis not use the defense of "there was no Holocaust"?
Uh cause they would be killed maybe?

>>2905362
Everything they dislike is jewish, so they can believe whatever their feefees tell them.

>>2905362
Sadly I don't believe any of these so called "documents" after 72 years of the war.
I would need them right then and there to be able really know for sure

>>2905177
And the difference is... what exactly?

>>2905365

Albert Speer was the only guy of the bunch to deny the Holocaust and he was the one who was allowed to live.

>>2905389
nothing there is no difference between an honorable aryan übermensch and a banking cartel
none

>>2905365
But many of them were killed anyway even though they acknowledged the existence of the Holocaust.
So the logic is they had to say it happened or they'd be killed, and if they said it didn't, they'd also be killed. If they felt like they were gonna be killed either way, don't you think they'd just proclaim that it is all a hoax and they're being railroaded?

>>2905288
Kek

>>2905399

How can Jews be a banking cartel and communists simultaneously? And how does killing middle/lower-class Jews who weren't involved in banking at all stop a "banking cartel"?

>>2905295
Umm... i'm pretty sure that Hitler wanted to create a strong "aryan" man, not a strong "european" man.

>>2905410
wait you are messing things up
The ghetto jews werent rotschild tier.
But there were high ranking bankers even a rotschild arrested withing the reich.
And the jewish banksters funded communism with their leading circles being 80% jewish

>>2905326
Weak b8 m8

>>2905413
yeah he idolized the aryan as the new european

>>2905416

So Hitler had them all imprisoned but then didn't kill them? What a loser.

>>2905399
You're assuming that rich bankers are all evil and contribute nothing to humanity, which is false and shiws that you don't understand economics. You also assume that the "aryan ubermensch", if created, would actually be noble - which there's really not much reason to believe.

>>2905402
Maybe they were promised to live?

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>>2905430

>New European
>Somehow this includes fucking Japan

>>2905416
>/pol/tards still pushing their bullshit narrative
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Committee_elected_by_the_6th_Congress_of_the_Russian_Social_Democratic_Labour_Party_(Bolsheviks)

Lol. /pol/ didn't send their best. This guy/guys is getting wrecked. I've seen better Holocaust denial argument before.

>>2905438
you have a reason to think that they could think that they could live after saying they killed millions?

>>2905437
>yeesthe global capitalist system is the only option goy!
What reason do you have to believe they wouldn't be?

>>2905416
>And the jewish banksters funded communism with their leading circles being 80% jewish
it was 20%

>>2905442
Because the essence of National Socialism is about connecting the aryan peoples all around the world. Why do you think they had these adventurer type kinda guys commisioned by the nazis around the world trying to find the missing "aryan" links throughout the cultures?

>>2905445
((((wiki)))
nuff said

>>2905457

I'm not letting this go. There is no fucking way that you can claim to be ideologically consistent when you say that Slavs aren't white but somehow fucking Japan qualifies as white.

>>2905466
Maybe they didn't have the honorable qualities the japanese had? If you look back they weren't really regarded as honourable or even pure after the soviets got their roots there. If there were no soviets maybe they could've fit the ideology

>>2905450
I didn't say it was the only option. However, the fact is that finance plays an important role in the economy. As for the ubermensch, well, the guys whom the Nazis picked to get things going were a bunch of fuhrer-worshipping beta males who were willing to kill civilians on government orders, and who lost. What's honorable or noble about that? They were submissive killers. Might as well say that the teenage boy soldiers who murdered civilians for Pol Pot were honorable.

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>>2905472

According to Hitler, the man on the left is not white, but the person on the right is white. How can you possibly justify this? Was he literally color-blind?

>>2905483
Are they living a life through National Socialism? No? Then I don't think either of them are.

>>2905483
Based multicultural Hitler!

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>>2905482
Its about the qualities you have that defines you as an übermensch and if you were physically fit and intellectually a national socialist with a good posture then yeah you were considered an übermensch
pic related

>>2905466
Not a stormfag but I'll have to correct you there, Neo-Nazis are a bit different than the actual nazis. What neo-nazis consider to be aryan is simply being white without suffering from one drop. As has been pointed out, what Nazis considered to be Aryan is not based on immediate physical appearance, as such they considered Japanese, some tribes of Native Americans, Iranians and some Indian ethnic groups to also be Aryan.

>>2905492

So if we implement "National Socialism" in Africa they magically became white? In that case, the white race doesn't even matter because we can always create more "honorary" white people from thin air.

>>2905508
>So if we implement "National Socialism" in Africa they magically became white?
Funnily enough if they would seriously mean it it would be something like Rhodesia or South Africa back in the day but they wouldn't be white only honorary aryans or some shit. We will never know.
the white race doesn't even matter because we can always create more "honorary" white people from thin air.
Aryan doesn't have to be white

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>>2905504

If that is true then why even have a concept of racial purity even anybody can do it just by adopting a particular lifestyle? If race doesn't actually matter, then EVERYTHING Hitler did was 100% pointless.

>>2905518

>Aryan doesn't have to be white

Then why does the "white race" even matter then? Congratulations, everything Hitler did was pointless.

>>2905519
But your blood does matter. He said don't racemix nor shit up your bloodline and live for your people with the honorary aryan qualities.

>>2905525
Because he was white? Therefore he protected his white kind? If he was black he would say the same about black people.

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>>2905527

>Race doesn't matter, anybody can be an honorary aryan!
>But it is extremely important to not race mix because I say so.

>>2905532

>Because he was white? Therefore he protected his white kind?

How? He betrayed his race by allying with Japan against the United States.

>>2905539
But anon your race does matter I didn't say it didn't matter I only said everyone can achieve aryan status.
And how did he even betray germany by declaring war on the us?

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>>2905543

Why does race matter when I can just magically become an honorary Aryan? If what you're saying is true, then I could be the darkest nigger in all of Africa and still be Aryan somehow.

>>2905557
You know, I'm starting to like this Hitler guy more and more. He really looks past the superficial stuff.

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>>2905559

>Just remember not to race-mix because apparently that's bad even though race apparently doesn't matter in any other context

>>2905557
Because your race says truly who you are and having aryan qualities elavates you from within your race. Sadly there are much more untermensch and as goebbels called them a leavening agent within all people.

>>2905565
but who the fuck says it isn't important? dude you are making shit up.

if it did happen why didn't european jews fight back? there are no heroic monuments or stories of jewish resistance.

>>2905570
>but who the fuck says it isn't important?

Hitler, apparently.

>>2905577
And on what do you base this on?

>>2905570

>but who the fuck says it isn't important?

Hitler. If Japanese can magically be white then race obviously doesn't matter.

>>2905390
When did Speer deny the holocaust? Why do you think people like Donitz and Schact didn't exist?

>>2905577
They are aryan.
Not white.
it could be the darkest indian even

>>2905583

Technically, Speer simply said that he had no knowledge of the Holocaust. But him saying that is basically Holocaust denial because there is no fucking way he could have not known given his position in the Third Reich. The fact that he made it out of Nuremberg alive is a miscarriage of justice.

>>2905575
That's simply false. Two off the top of my head:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobib%C3%B3r_extermination_camp#The_uprising
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising

Holy fuck, you stormniggers are hilarious. Back off to /pol/ where you belong.

>>2905645
Oh come on. I grew up with the official usa ww2 education and never did we learn about jewish resistance at any meaningful scale.

>>2905600
>The fact that he made it out of Nuremberg alive is a miscarriage of justice.
I'm split on the question of whether capital punishment was a good idea. On the one hand, it might help dissuade others from doing something like that again. On the other hand, I lean towards opposing capital punishment in general because of the chance of killing an innocent person. More specifically in this case, I think that history has suffered on account of not being able to use the executed people as primary sources. Also, their executions have helped to keep alive the neo-Nazi and Holocaust denial theories.

>>2905647
Holy fuck, you jews are hilarious. Back off to /his/ where you belong.

>>2905653
Hurr... durr... anyone who disagrees with me must be a Jew...

>>2905650
>I grew up with the official usa ww2 education
How is that relevant?
>never did we learn about jewish resistance at any meaningful scale.
The Jews were heavily outnumbered. There wasn't much they could have done.

>>2905656

Russians and Jews aren't white......so it is okay to mass murder them.......but Japanese are honorary whites........just like Italians.

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>>2904287
Oh, look, a holocaust thread. About bloody time. We haven't had one since yesterday.

>>2905653
Funny there's over 5 million Jews living in the United States, there can't be a lot of Jews that go on 4chan, and now you're just talking out of your ass. Go play in traffic.

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>>2904287
Here comes the merchants guild!

>>2905659
>How is that relevant?
what post-war-victor state education system even mentions meaningful jewish resistance. millions of men could have fought.

>>2905679

>millions of men could have fought

Against heavily armed Gestapo who would literally shoot your wife and children in front of you if you didn't follow orders? No, not really.

>>2905694
So there is no hope I suppose.

Also to you stormtards especially to that Andrew Anglin faggot, yes the Holocaust happened. I had a neighbor from up north that had his father conscripted into the SS when the Nazis invaded Yugoslavia. He's a Croat American and he was only 3 years old when the Germans invaded Yugoslavia. They would have killed him and his entire family if he didn't serve as a Croat SS man. He never was given a rifle and he never saw the death camps but regardless, yes the Holocaust did happen and the Nazis were fucking monsters. They would have murdered my neighbor and his father along with everyone else.

Since people are posting debunk images does anyone have that image from a while ago where that anon debunks that greatest story never told documentary?

>>2905709
good
everything out of the way for a pure europe
sieg heil

>>2905728
What were the debunks based on?

>>2904287

12 million people died under German custody so its not that farfetched they were responsible for the deaths of 6 million Jews which most were due to typhus, not gas.

>>2905734
>which most were due to typhus, not gas.
But that's wrong you retard.

>>2905734

If millions of people die while in your custody there isn't any excuse for that.

>>2905750
No, it's still a heinous crime. But it's retarded to change the narrative because people think that way it doesn't sound "as bad". It's intellectualy dishonest and adds to the skepticism of the holocaust.

>>2905878
It's also intellectually dishonest to claim that the bulk of camp deaths were due to disease or mismanagement, and not out and out butchery. the 4 Aktion Reinhardt camps+Birkenau were close to half the total holocaust deaths between then, and those were almost all done by gassing.

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>>2905878

The majority of Holocaust victims weren't gassed. Many were. Most were not.

>>2905885
Not him, but most "Holocaust" death counts only go for civilians, and the mass PoW executions that the Germans conducted are considered a separate war crime.

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>>2904287
For literally the nth million fucking time, it happened. No matter how many times /pol/ screams about Jews. It happened. I'm not going to peruse this fucking thread and watch drooling neckbeard pol tards make the same stormfag arguments about "international Jews" and other flawed arguments that i've seen 4000+ times about how the overwhelming evidence for the Holocaust is false.


Holy fuck Nazis please go die. You fucks are just as bad as the incessant "Stalin dindu nuffin" leftypol spammers,

>>2905893

The group of people to be gassed at Auschwitz were Soviet POW's. The reason the murder of Soviet POW's got downplayed was because the American and British governments very deliberately did not want people to sympathize with the USSR once the war was over.

>>2905907
>The group of people to be gassed at Auschwitz were Soviet POW's.
Yes, but that is irrelevant to the point at hand.

>the reason the murder of Soviet POW's got downplayed was because the American and British governments very deliberately did not want people to sympathize with the USSR once the war was over.
That is flat out bullshit. The overwhelming majority of the non-Jewish Holocaust victims are Soviets who died under the hunger plans out east. Nobody is trying to claim that the people of Smolensk or Misnk or Kiev or Leningrad weren't victims. The divide is military vs civilian, not Soviet vs not-Soviet.

>>2905916

No, it's not. Many Nazi war criminals were let out of prison specifically because the American government wanted to downplay Wehrmacht war crimes against Russian civilians and POW's. The USSR helped America win WW2 and in return in got stabbed in the back as soon as the war was over.

>>2905928
Do you have a reading problem, or a thinking problem? None of what you said even addresses what I said.

>>2904323
In the desert.

>>2905904
>For literally the nth million fucking time, it happened.
Were you there?

That's what i thought. The holocaust never happened.

>>2905966
The Roman Empire's a myth. Were you there? That's what I thought.

>>2905970
I love debating the holocaust I mean both camps have points but Im just stuck between. Although this doesn't negate my love for national socialism.

>>2905981
>Both sides have points

They don't, though. One side has evidence, and the other has spurious arguments full of motivated reasoning. No man in good faith could look at both sides and weigh them equal. Do not believe those liars who would blind your eyes to the truth with the tongues of vipers.

>>2905988
I don't know man I'm pretty convinced the bankers are behind many things in this world and they happen to be jews.
For this fact alone I cannot 100% believe the holocaust and will always be jew ready

What was the purpose of the 4 Einsatzgruppen units (each consisting of 500-1000 members of the SS and Gestapo) during Operation Barbarossa? How were these units different than the Wehrmacht's Security Divisions (Sicherungs-Divisionen) and Guard Units (Landesschützen)?

Why would Jews inflate the number of holocaust victims when reparations paid by West Germany after the war were based on the number of survivors and not the number killed?

What did SS and nazi officials in internal memos mean by the word "Special Treatment" (Sonderbehandlung) regarding jews in their custody?

How could the prisoners at the Bergen-Belsen be starving to death when 3 km away the food stores for the camp contained "600 tons of potatoes, 120 tons of tinned meat, 30 tons of sugar, upwards of 20 tons of powdered milk; cocoa, grain, wheat and other foodstuffs." Why was this food withheld from the starving prisoners?

If the Jews were evacuated "to the East" rather than being exterminated in Poland, what happened to them? Why have so many family members of those "evacuated" never heard from their loved ones again? Wouldn't they try to make some contact in the past 70+ years?

Of the approximately 1,300,000 deportees sent to Auschwitz, only 400,000 were actually admitted into the camp. What happened to the 900,000 who were not admitted to the camp? Were they sent home?

How plausible is it the allied governments trained and deployed thousands of staff to axis controlled territory during the last year of the war create and plant thousands of false documents, faked photographs, forged diary entries in the correct places so that they would be discovered by liberating allied personnel without their scheme being discovered and exposed over the past 70+ years?

How were the victims of the nazis Aktion T4 program killed? How were their bodies disposed?

>>2906015
>How were the victims of the nazis Aktion T4 program killed? How were their bodies disposed?
I will provide a hint for this question. The answers rhyme with "Smoison smass" and "shreshmation"

>>2904649
(((Records)))
(((Documentation)))

>>2904287
>>2905148
>They only thing about the Holocaust that bothers me is that denial is illegal in 22 countries

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire

That being said, I have no idea what really happened. I only share the same suspicions as the Anon above.

>>2905203
are you implying that 2pac is NOT alive? hahaha he is I know I mean WHERE IS HIS BODY???? tell me that. "oh he got cremated" sure sure believe 2pacs lies. Ill be here holding the truth if you nees me. ( I found said truth by thinking clearly: I dismissed all evidence and looked on youtube for illuminati videos, doing your own research takes effort but I had to do it)

>>2905223
Indeed, he was quite good at losing

>>2905438

And then they found out they were going to die, but still said nothing. Why? Why weren't they dragged to the gallows screaming how they had been betrayed, that they were actually innocent, that they had been forced to say they had done it, that it was all a lie?

>>2905049
Thread? I want to see this.

>>2905483

It's almost like actual Nazi racial policy is slightly more complex than "Hitler wanted to kill everyone who didn't have blue hair and blonde eyes!!!!" or something?

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>>2905177
>>2905295
Which is why he invaded so many countries and started policies to destroy whole ethnic groups through extermination, deportation, assimilation,...?

>>2906681
they choose to take their deaths stoically and aloof
as expected from Aryan ubermensch

>>2906735

>Aryan ubermensch bringing dishonour to themselves and the Aryan race forever, by knowingly lying about being involved in the worst of atrocities

>>2906015
>What was the purpose of the 4 Einsatzgruppen units (each consisting of 500-1000 members of the SS and Gestapo) during Operation Barbarossa? How were these units different than the Wehrmacht's Security Divisions (Sicherungs-Divisionen) and Guard Units (Landesschützen)?

Killing partisans and urban guerrillas.

>What did SS and nazi officials in internal memos mean by the word "Special Treatment" (Sonderbehandlung) regarding jews in their custody?

Means they weren't put to work and were instead sent somewhere more appropriate, the frail and elderly mostly.

>How could the prisoners at the Bergen-Belsen be starving to death when 3 km away the food stores for the camp contained "600 tons of potatoes, 120 tons of tinned meat, 30 tons of sugar, upwards of 20 tons of powdered milk; cocoa, grain, wheat and other foodstuffs." Why was this food withheld from the starving prisoners?

Source, also you'd have to be stupid to want soldiers on the run to care more about their prisoners than about their colleagues. We have no pictures of concentration camps in their heyday that show prisoners in the same state they were found at liberation. There is no 1943 or 1942 picture of a muselmann.

>If the Jews were evacuated "to the East" rather than being exterminated in Poland, what happened to them? Why have so many family members of those "evacuated" never heard from their loved ones again? Wouldn't they try to make some contact in the past 70+ years?

There were plenty of camps scattered across the West, and not all registers from them survived. It is probable that they were sent there.

>Of the approximately 1,300,000 deportees sent to Auschwitz, only 400,000 were actually admitted into the camp. What happened to the 900,000 who were not admitted to the camp? Were they sent home?

Auschwitz was a labor camp. Makes sense that those selected as unable to work were sent somewhere else.

>>2906908
>There were plenty of camps scattered across the West

Fuck, meant across the East.

>>2905197
BIGGIE KILLED TUPAC

>>2906725
Not the guy you were replying to but I still believe we would be better off had he won yeah there wouldn't be that many slavs though.

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>>2906940
You can follow his example, then.

>>2906946
I don't see any problem with that sorry

>>2906105
Kept by the Nazis you moron, or are you suggesting a bunch of Jews inserted all of it during the fall of Berlin and no one noticed?

>>2906751
t. leftypol kike

>>2907044

>it's being a lefty pol like to ask why a noble elite gentleman would blacken his own name and the cause he fought for

>>2906908

>soldiers on the run to care more about their prisoners than about their colleagues.

That's litterally a war crime in and of itself

>>2907117
Maybe he felt that his family was in danger if he spoke?

>>2906641
So jesus was good at losing only too?

>>2904287
The evidence that the Holocaust happened is extensive and well-established. Holocaust deniers have yet to come up with a plausible theory as to why millions of Jews disappeared from Europe during WWII.

Also Holocaust deniers are always anti-Semites, which shows that their entire thesis is clouded by inherent bias.

>>2904968
>>2905465
>>2906105
>le (((meme)))
hahaha lololol le (((funny))) (((meme))) XDDDD(((DD)))!!!!!

>>2907198
lefty kike stop throwing tantrums please ty. ((((((((((()))))))))))
faggot

>>2906105
>I-I don't have any evidence but i-if I just call the other side a j-jew then I win!

>>2904287
There is literally more evidence on the holocaust than there is on the 1st Punic wars.

>>2906908

>also you'd have to be stupid to want soldiers on the run to care more about their prisoners than about their colleagues

The Geneva Conventions very directly states otherwise. Under the terms of this agreement, prisoners must be given food identical in both quantity and quality to the soldiers tasked with guarding them. Germany signed this agreement.

>>2907348
>muh cuckeva cuckventions
kek

>>2907385
>Cuck

Embarrassing argument style.

>>2907385
>cuckeva cuckventions
I honestly think /pol/tards are proud of being retarded.

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>>2907385

>Sign agreement
>Don't follow it
>Wonder why people won't sign peace agreements with you anymore

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>>2907385
>muh cuckeva cuckventions
This desu

>>2907415
kek

BTFO

>>2907415

DO IT AGAIN.

>>2906908
>Killing partisans and urban guerrillas.
Like children? http://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/works/jaeger-report/htm/img002.htm.en.html

>Means they weren't put to work and were instead sent somewhere more appropriate, the frail and elderly mostly.
Where was that?

>Source,
http://www.bergenbelsen.co.uk/pages/Trial/Trial/TrialProsecutionCase/Trial_009_Berney.html

>also you'd have to be stupid to want soldiers on the run to care more about their prisoners than about their colleagues.
They managed to not starve prisoners who weren't untermenschen.

>There were plenty of camps scattered across the West, and not all registers from them survived. It is probable that they were sent there.
And then what happened to them?

>Auschwitz was a labor camp. Makes sense that those selected as unable to work were sent somewhere else.
And Auschwitz was right next door to Birkenau, which was a "gas you as you come in" camp.

>>2907415

Nothing Harris did violates the Geneva Conventions. The Geneva Conventions deals purely with the treatment of POW's. The specific version of the Geneva Conventions that was relevant during WW2 was the 1929 version, with the full name "Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, Geneva July 27, 1929." The full text of this treaty, which Germany definitely signed, can be found here:

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/INTRO/305?OpenDocument

>>2907204
>Holocaust denier
>Telling others to stop throwing tantrums

Are Holocaust denier the most pathetic people in the world?

>>2907499

You're this buttblasted over someone challenging you on your pet topics?
Are holocaust believers the biggest cancer the earth has seen?

Okay, like most people on /his/ nowadays and evidently in this thread too, I don't give a damn about history. So, let us have a look at some of the possible outcomes regarding the holocaust.

>It did NOT happen
Oh wow, gotta rewrite some books, I guess. Next time a jew makes some whiney hollywood movie I am gonna give him a stern look for sure!

>It DID happen
Oh wow, would have guessed that killing your enemies to the last one solves your problems in the long run? Literally never heard of that before in history, kek. How is that a reason to listen to Jewish victimism 24/7 again?

The really interesting outcomes are the ones that go one step further.

>It did NOT happen, but was fabricated AFTER the war
Oh wow, who would do such a thing and why?

>It DID happen, but the NUMBERS are totally off.
Oh wow, those Soviets sure can't count, eh? Once again, what gains did they promise themselves from that?

>It DID happen, but almost no one knew among the Nazis, not even HITLER
Oh wow, why did no one ask? They must have been curious where all those resources went and why they are not used for the war effort.

THOSE would be interesting scenarios to discuss... but ironically they are probably more suited for /pol/. But since /pol/ is retarded and /his/ gets triggered more easily than a child losing its lollypop, there is no hope for serious discussions.

>that autistic looking Finnish comedian.jpg

>>2907540
>responding with a meme is challenging anything
maybe in /pol/

>>2907540
Look kid, you should probably stop being an edgelord and do your homework. It's more productive.

>>2907385
>cuckeva cuckventions
/pol/ arguing tactics, everyone

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>>2907560

>I don't give a damn about history
>But please take my opinions seriously

>>2907575
denial hurts or what?

>>2907494
So not only is he hero, but he also did nothing wrong?

>>2907560
You seem pretty asshurt about jews. Did a mean Hebrew steal your lunch everyday at school?

>>2907560
>/his/ gets triggered more easily than a child losing its lollypop, there is no hope for serious discussions.
Because as much as /pol/ bitches about spooks like leftypol and reddit invading /his/ and wanting to turn it into their hugbox, in truth all they're doing is projecting their own insecurities as they invade /his/ and try to turn it into their own hugbox, and we're all twitchy and neurotic because we have to deal with /pol/niggers and are inundated with their bullshit on a daily basis.

Because the science is literally settled and every time you try to explain to a /pol/tard how shitty unsourced infographics are no basis for scientific reality, out comes the "good goy" memes, the ridiculing people for not having hard right political views, posting the lone contrarian source who is an obvious quack with severe methodology issues, the fostering of cynicism and a lower level of discourse.

It's not even about being left-wing or right-wing, it's about being an edgy, contrarian faggot with nothing of actual substance to add to the discussion.

>>2907841
Oh, look, a leftypol jewcuckniggershillkikecommunist.

>>2907855
8/10 you forgot reddit

https://youtu.be/RHzWo79dCHs

I would subscribe to David Irving's idea. That is to say, the holocaust happened (and i dont thing anyone actually wholly denies that it did. Holocaust denier is very much a misnomer and revisionist makes much more sense) yet the idea that the jews were so tremendously eradicated is nonesense.
One need only watch the above documentary to, at the very least, cast doubt over the legend of auschwitz and by reasonable extension all the remaining 'extermination' camps (which it is worth remembering were all in soviet territory and allied inspection was refused and has never since properly taken place for reasons of what can only be described as sanctity). Irving's suggestion is, in a sense, that the ss operated killing jews largely without the consent of hitler and in only moderate numbers.

I would go further in contradicting irvings suggestion that jews were still gassed though this notion defies even the most simple logic (could a more inconveinient and convoluted method of extermination even be contrived?) and claims, seemingly in opposition to his other claims, that 4 million jews died. I would reason that this is because he has already suffered imprisonment and persecution for his writings on hitler and has no desire to be so radical again in his old age yet i cannot say for sure.

I would also ask to those who so vehemently defend the orthodoxy surrounding the holocaust if they have actually given seriously deliberation to revisionism. It has been my experience, though that is not to say this is the case in all instances, that every time the holocaust is discussed the defenders of the holocaust refuse to even acknowledge the arguments presented by revisionists and dennounce them as either hateful (which is pure nonesense) or as simply wrong because of established thought and information which they always fail to actually present.

>>2907919

There really isn't any "orthodoxy" surrounding the Holocaust. It is a very highly researched topic and people write books offering new perspectives on the subject all the time. The only time somebody ever gets into trouble is when they start making claims that blatantly contradict overwhelming evidence, such as you are now. We know that people were gassed because it is well documented. The Nazis own documents indicate that this was going on. Beyond that, we have eyewitness testimony from prisoners and confessions from the guards themselves. And beyond that we have physical evidence such as the gas chambers themselves which have been forensically tested for Zyklon B with results showing without any doubt that Zyklon B was used in lethal quantities. There isn't a shred of doubt that people were gassed in large numbers.

>>2907962
lol the dude you were replying to was right you guys really cant be fucking reasoned with all you do is NO IT HAPPENED MUH 6 MILLION

>>2907985

Great argument.

>>2907919
for those who would not watch coles video (which i would recommend watching) I would raise these points

The leuchter report suggests that cyanide gas was never present in the extermination chambers in spite of massive (and visible) evidence of it in the disinfectant chambers. This report is attacked based on leuchters lack of qualification (something i would consider a poor attack) and yet he was not and would never have been given permission to take samples (something also worth considering) and there was never an official trial done to clear up any ambiguity over the issue. If a layman can find evidence to contradict something does it not make far more sense to show the evidence which contradicts them than to simply decry what they say as the ramblings of a fool? The only reason another test has not been undertaken and will not (at least legally) be undertaken is because the result is known and can be seen by the naked eye: to do another test would only confirm the leuchter report.

The soviets claim that there were holes in the roof of the gas chamber yet none of the aerial photographs taken suggest this and when the soviets liberated the camp it was an air raid shelter. The claim is that it was an air raid shelter converted into a gas chamber and then back into an air raid shelter yet the only evidence we have to support this claim are eyewitness accounts. There are no german documents or photos of this. One has to ask whether soviet eyewitnesses are really a reliable source (espcially when a number of other eyewitnesses have been proven to be wrong).

Why would the germans contrive such an absurd way of killing captives? Eisenhower killed around 1000000 german prisoners after the war (yes, few remember this) by simply starving them. Why then did the germans construct for their captives theatres, cinemas, swimming pools, a football league and other entirely superfluous things when their intent was to simply kill them.

Bloody character limit. Im done.

>>2907987
so is yours
You basically repeated the established propaganda

>>2907991

Very convincing.

>>2907989
>and there was never an official trial done to clear up any ambiguity over the issue
That's wrong you retard. Leuchter's report was prepared for the Zundel trial, and the Institute for Forensic Research of Krakow did their own study, which DID find HCN at the gas chambers.

>>2907919
>It has been my experience, though that is not to say this is the case in all instances, that every time the holocaust is discussed the defenders of the holocaust refuse to even acknowledge the arguments presented by revisionists and dennounce them as either hateful
This must be your first time in /his/ because stormniggers post the same lies every day and they are addressed every time.

>>2907989
>This report is attacked based on leuchters lack of qualification
False, it's dismissed due to the severe methodological problems which you can find about by googling for two seconds.

>The claim is that it was an air raid shelter converted into a gas chamber and then back into an air raid shelter yet the only evidence we have to support this claim are eyewitness accounts.
False, you have plenty of documentation, from the auschwitz blueprints to documents mentioning the chambers.

>Why then did the germans construct for their captives theatres, cinemas, swimming pools, a football league and other entirely superfluous things when their intent was to simply kill them.
Because they weren't constructed for their captives.

>>2907962
>The Nazis own documents indicate that this was going on
oh? which ones? I expect a source for this assertion.

>Beyond that, we have eyewitness testimony from prisoners and confessions from the guards themselves.
It is only regarding the holocaust where these are regarded as infalible sources. Remember the eyeitness claims of nazi jew soap and lampshades or the german human furnaces of ww1 all of which were false.

>And beyond that we have physical evidence such as the gas chambers themselves which have been forensically tested for Zyklon B with results showing without any doubt that Zyklon B was used in lethal quantities.
The only test im familiar with is the leutcher report which contradicts you here. Please, support this claim.

If it is so well researched and proven then why is it illegal to say it didnt happen in a number of countries. It isnt illegal to say holodomor didnt happen or that hiroshima didnt happen so why the holocaust?

As >>2907985 crudely states you are archetypal in that you refute my claim based on vauge appeals and claims of some evidence you do not provide.

>>2907989

>Eisenhower killed around 1000000 german prisoners after the war

Nope. That definitely never occurred and by merely suggesting it you've torpedoed your credibility.

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>>2907989

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>>2908022

Eyewitness testimony is never considered infallible, but when you have hundreds of eyewitnesses saying that same thing, and plenty of corroborating evidence to back it up, it becomes very strong evidence. No denier argument addresses this massive volume of evidence, which is why denier arguments are not taken seriously by any credible historian.

>>2905671
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>>2905675
>>2905678
>>2905680
>>2905684
>>2905686
>>2905688
>>2905708
Will the extremely white and based /pol/yps ever going to address these?

>>2908046
why would they adress made up baseless useless lies?

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>>2908067
why, to prove that these are, indeed, baseless useless lies, I would think

>>2908023
i presume you have not read other losses then.
A million is the highest end of the estimate and i would reason so high to provoke conversation (which it did not). None deny that many did starve and die though.

>>2908015
I looked up krakow university investigation into gas chambers and all of the top results claim it corroborates the leutcher report.
>>2908028
Why is the swimming pool within the camp grounds? The ss barracks is not. Are you suggesting the ss entered the camp to swim? This seems absurd.
>>2908017
>Because they weren't constructed for their captives.
Yet we have the eyewitnesses youre so fond of saying that they were.

>>2908017
>False, it's dismissed due to the severe methodological problems which you can find about by googling for two seconds.
Perhaps also but leutcher himself is also attacked. One would expect in a room where every day 1000s were killed by gassing for there to be subatancial evidence of its use. There is so much evidence in the disinfectant chamber one can see it so why so little in the gas chamber? Cole addresses this

It's a stormcunt thinking that the theatres and pools and football teams were for the average inmates and that all inmates were treated exactly the same episode

>>2908104
>I looked up krakow university investigation into gas chambers and all of the top results claim it corroborates the leutcher report.
Are you lying, or just retarded? Here, read it for yourself.

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/post-leuchter.report

>There is so much evidence in the disinfectant chamber one can see it so why so little in the gas chamber?
Because you need about 20 times as much HCN to kill lice as you do to kill people? Because the gas chambers were blown up as the SS pulled out? Because your mother and father were brother and sister?

>>2908104
>Yet we have the eyewitnesses youre so fond of saying that they were.
[citation needed]
inb4 brit POWs

>Perhaps also but leutcher himself is also attacked.
Sure, because it's hilarious that stormniggers are desperate enough to hang on to a ridiculous study by a bachelor in arts. But it is dismissed for its methodology.

>One would expect in a room where every day 1000s were killed by gassing for there to be subatancial evidence of its use.
There is. See the krakow forensic study.

>There is so much evidence in the disinfectant chamber one can see it so why so little in the gas chamber?
Because the amount required to kill lice is orders of magnitude higher than the amount to kill people? Because the chamber were destroyed and the remains subjected to rain for decades and leuchter picked a random chunk of brick? Because leuchter never told the laboratory what he was trying to do and they diluted the samples? He literally had no fucking idea what he was doing.

>>2908132
>Because you need about 20 times as much HCN to kill lice as you do to kill people? Because the gas chambers were blown up as the SS pulled out? Because your mother and father were brother and sister?
Ha, we responded the same thing in the same writing style.

>>2908119
What's hilarious to me is that stormfags say that the holocaust couldn't have happened because diverting resources from war to kill jews makes no sense, and at the same time they believe nazis diverted resources from war to send all jews to poland to see theater plays and swim around.

>>2908159

Also, no resources were "diverted." The Nazis were dependent on slave labor. Imprisoning your supposed enemies and forcing them to do work for you and then killing them off once they're too sick, tired, or hungry to keep working is actually a very efficient system.

>>2908168
citation needed the post

Holocaust really happend. I am from austria and can confirm this. Pls stop asking if it was real. It offends me.
Do you think 9/11 was real, i think its photoshoped.

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>>2908022
>Which ones
Get fucking ready mate

Auschwitz aerial photographs from 23. and 25. August, '44 http://i.imgur.com/9Sdwlw6.jpg

Sterbebuchs

Exekutions-kommando: http://i.imgur.com/VcfOYvh.jpg
And the executed: http://i.imgur.com/nr8ixx0.jpg

Picture of Krema III (undressing station and gas chamber) in Birkenau: http://i.imgur.com/5Wm1bIS.jpg

Newly arrived prisoners standing in front of the same building: http://i.imgur.com/YqxrrAS.jpg (Those sure
look like good workers, wonder what happened to them)

Picture taken in '43 literally showing Zyklon B inlets in Krema II: http://i.imgur.com/OYh7mo4.jpg

Janisch Document, showing the capacity of the crematoria in units of "personen" (what could that possibly mean?) : http://i.imgur.com/jSj3fsf.jpg

David Olere and other Sonderkommando testimonies http://i.imgur.com/d2hCkSB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xrzQCg0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MkXtmKG.jpg

Letter to Topf company, literally mentioning the "Gaskeller": http://i.imgur.com/7GFcgZs.jpg
Document ordering both a gas tight door AND showerheads for Krema III: http://i.imgur.com/z3gAHip.jpg (What kind of morgue/air raid shelter/delousing station needs showerheads PLUS a gas tight door?)

Johan Paul Kremer's diary

Sonderkommando photographs, specifically this one: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Auschwitz_Resistance_282a.jpg Those women undressing in the forest, are standing in a place that very much looks like this wooded area: http://i.imgur.com/GPxd1Nc.jpg most likely these people about to be gassed in Krema V.

Höfle Telegram

Korherr Report

Jäger Report

Franz Walter Stahlecker's Map '42: http://i.imgur.com/4t2CvUm.jpg

Letter mentioning the shooting of Jews, and their gassing in a gas van, by Einsatzkommando: http://i.imgur.com/J9ziXOC.jpg

Document describing shipments of hair sent from Aktion Reinhard death camps to German companies: http://i.imgur.com/ACbMUk7.jpg

>only test im familiar with is the leutcher report

Didn't expect more

>>2907841
>every time you try to explain to a /pol/tard how shitty unsourced infographics are no basis for scientific reality, out comes the "good goy" memes, the ridiculing people for not having hard right political views, posting the lone contrarian source who is an obvious quack with severe methodology issues, the fostering of cynicism and a lower level of discourse.
This. I'm not going to say that the science is "literally settled", since there is always some room for doubt in history. However, it gets very tiresome to argue with /pol/tards who accuse everyone who disagrees with them of being a biased Jewish shill and/or a leftist, or insist that if you don't believe in their world-spanning decades-long conspiracy theories, you must be brainwashed (even though, just like their understanding of history, yours comes entirely from independent collation of various sources, and not from schooling or the media establishment).
And that's not even to get into analyzing the weird "Nazis were good guys who would never have committed the Holocaust, but Jews are evil and the Nazis should have committed the Holocaust" mindset.

>>2908258
kike lies
NEXT

>>2908304
>was a professor of anatomy and human genetics at Münster University who joined the Wehrmacht on May 20, 1941. He served in the SS...

My boy Johann sure sounds like a lying kike huh?

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>>2904287
No. Simple as that.

I've literally debated numerous commie posters here about the (((Holocaust))) and after 3 hours of arguing and 50 posts later, when they get cornered and have nothing to say, they resort to the usual:
>go back to /pol/
>NAZI
>A FUCKING WHITE MALE.

So I won't even debate anymore of these fucktards.

>>2908324
see > >>2908258

debate to your hearts content

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>>2908331
I guess you didn't read my post. No need to waste my time, the outcome is always the same.

>>2905331
>Slavshit doesn't represent anything worthy
>Obliterate the so-called master race in military might,
>bbbbbbbbutttt my kd ratio on civilians

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>>2908342
>they get cornered and have nothing to say
I did, in fact it prompted my response.

>>2906248
Voltaire never said that you cocksucker, that was said by Kevin Alfred Strom in his program, "All America Must Know the Terror That is Upon Us". storm is a neo nazi cuck by the way

>>2908351
zerging sure is hard

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>>2908362
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_operation

>>2908362
>/pol/'s finest once again prove they have no historical knowledge whatsoever

Deep battle operations = zerging now I suppose.

>>2905966
The entire history of humanity never happened because I wasn't there

>>2908205
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/forced-labor
>>2908210
>Not knowing that the towers were blown up by mini nukes

>>2908432
>jewish virtual library

fucking kekked.

don't kek /his/ is so convinced in the holocaust that they will LITERALLY post jewish virtual library
it's not a joke some serious fucking jew infestation is in /his/

>>2908457
https://www.nathaninc.com/sites/default/files/Pub%20PDFs/Forced%20Labor%20Under%20the%20Third%20Reich,%20Part%20One.pdf

http://www.pac1944.org/history/laborcomp.htm
http://www.holocaust-trc.org/poles/

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>>2908460

>>2908469
exactly and I wouldn't be suprised if reddit came here and made /his/ their staging ground seeing people here will accept anything if it closely resembles "evidence".
They don't care from who it came from it only has to be "evidence".

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>>2908457
>>2908460
b-b-b-b-but da joos

>>2908478
>it's a conspiracy if people refute my retarded conspiracy
It must be really easy believing whatever you want.

>>2908496
>>2908483
red
dit

>>2908507
Cry as much as you want, I've been here before stormfags were a thing and I won't go away, you're free to go to your hugbox board.

>>2908514
no you weren't you came here after plebbit showed you what 4chan is and were super excited to spam your clueless shit about anything resembling the holohoax.

>>2908532
Sure stormfag, keep crying.

>>2908532
#triggered

>>2908514
4chan has always been Nazi playground, kid. From before /new/, to /new/, to /pol/... It's pretty much like how reddit how always been the place for cucks and commie faggots, 4chan has been the place for white nationalism. All you can do is cry or leave this site because obviously tumblr should be more to your liking.

>>2908514
>I've been here before stormfags were a thing

You've probably been here for a year, because this board was made long after /pol/ was nazi

>>2908550
Another example of stormfag's pathological lying.

>>2908553
>this board was made long after /pol/ was nazi
Yes, stormfags started invading around 2010. And?

>>2908550
>>2908532
>>2908507
>>2908478
>>2908469
>>2908460
>>2908457

If you're so sure, why is no one debating any of this >>2908210

>>2908560
woops meant this>>2908258

>>2908557
>t. newfag - the post.

You probably don't know what /new/ was. Why am I even debating with such a faggot? Go back to tumblr, this isn't your place.

>>2905350
>they were able to rise up and defeat Hitler easily.
>easily
That's an insult to the millions of dead Slavs who poured their literal blood and guts out onto the soil of Europe to push Hitler's soldiers back into Germany.

I get it.
You cucks don't like Hitler.
That's no reason to downplay what he did while simultaneously believing it was the worst thing ever

>>2908571
Nobody buys your lies here. Keep trying though.

>>2908571
>your place
>implying it's "someones" place

>>2908585
/pol/tards are used to being in a hugbox

Holocaust denial is cool because you know automatically you're talking to a troglodyte. It's a litmus test for stupidity and historical illiteracy.
>>2905359
>zerging something
Except German population plus their allies outnumbered Soviets, especially after they lost Ukraine and Belarus.

>>2908573
>opposing what the third reich was doing
>cucks
Truly, what a bunch of cucks our grandparents were for fighting against the forces that planned on our destruction

>>2908577
>not knowing 4chan
>be a literal retard /his/ faggot and try to fit in
yeah you can fuck off back to neogaf

>>2908597
>what is forced reqruitmen and slave labour
Learn history you literal retard

All of this debate is well and good but nobody BTFOs deniers more than Eisenhower.
https://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/research/audiovisual/images/holocaust.html

>>2908613
>eisenhower
>a known zionist
>in charge of btfoing anything

>>2904649
No where in the Wannsee do they mention directly killing Jews. No where.

>>2908604
>the stormfag is an underaged /v/irgin
wew

>>2908597
What if you think maybe there was no official extermination policy regarding Jews, and the Holocaust was an event that arose emergently from various local policies of varying degrees of neglect and malevolence? Or more interesting the Holocaust was "deep-state" policy but not that of the Nazi regime as a whole?

It would explain why Amon Goeth was dismissed from his position for abusing the Jews in his care.

>>2908619
Sure, faggot. Everyone is a Jew when it's convenient for you to rationalize evidence away.

>>2908628
If you stop spouting literal jews then I won't point it out you kike faggot drone

>>2908601
I'm not calling you cucks because you oppose the policies of the Nazi regime, I call you cucks because you seem to believe Hitler was the worst thing ever in history and you lash out violently, twisting yourselves into knots to attack those who dispute that. Probably because you think you gain some kind of unquantifiable "good boy" points for doing so.

If you think Hitler was anything more than a colorful historical character, like Napoleon or Genghis Khan, you need to reevaluate your opinions to make sure you're not just mindlessly repeating somebody else's memes.

>>2905600
Are you implying nuremberg was fair you piece of shit? Plenty of innocent germans were locked and for no good reason such as donitz. Who literally just directed the submarine effort, gets arrested for "starting a war". Funny how the trials were held without ANY evidence

>>2907348
I don't disagree that the SOLDIERS may have been charged with war crimes, but by the time of the war's end there was barely a functioning German state so you can't pin it on the Reich as such. The German government was falling apart and couldn't inspect those gross violations in the camps by the end of the war.

Again, we have literally no evidence on how the average prisoner looked like in the peak of the camps activity.

>>2908626
You'd still be wrong, but it wouldn't be as bad. If Albert Speer is actually telling the truth, your "deep-state policy" idea might somewhat true.
Obvious signs that it was deliberate is of course things such as this: http://i.imgur.com/7GFcgZs.jpg

>>2908362

>implying blitzkrieg isn't the exact same thing as zerging

>>2908660
We do, testimonies.

There were people in the camps, ya know.

>>2908663
no
blitzing actually involves strategy
zerging doesn't however you wanna call it be it deep battle operations or zerging.

>>2905283
This post should be the end of this thread

>>2908653
More fair than Unternehmen Kolibri, surely.

>>2908641
Eisenhower has an evident Christian background, which you would know if you weren't a gullible retard gobbling up shitty infographics on /pol/ but doing mental gymnastics when faced with any real evidence. Posting any non-Jew will rest in reasoning similar to that and shit like
>UHHHH UHH HE HAS A JEWISH DOG YOU STUPID GOY HES OBVIOUSLY BIASED AND IN ON THE CONSPIRACY

>>2908651
We're talking about historical events that happened less than a century ago; many people stillhave grandparents who lived through it. And in many countries, this wasn't just grandfathers going to war overseas, but whole families being affected. Several of my relatives were sent to prison or concentration camps during the war, a few were mobilised in the German army, several died. This isn't some distant history, my people - and other nations in occupied Europe - were threatened with destruction less than a century ago.

>>2908667
>being this thick

you can literally go on wikipedia and read, you don't need more than the basic information

if anything, deep battle was a planned, developed way of warfare, in contrast to "blitzkrieg", which came about due to sheer necessity, because the underprepared wehrmacht would get it's shit kicked in, in any longer war (see for example 1942-1945

>>2908680
>kikepedia
KEK

>>2905438
Once you start having to make this many assumption so out know your argument is complete shit

>>2908701
Sorry, I know you boys like infographs, but I have none available on the topic. I know you're somewhat adverse to books, but it'll have to do in a pinch
hhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzk0WVH5NChWaW02eERJU1RvZGM/view

>>2908261
>his. I'm not going to say that the science is "literally settled", since there is always some room for doubt in history.
I mean, every time a proper forensic examination of the camps is conducted, the evidence that comes back is overwhelming.

And I do mean a "proper" one, done with actual scientists and not by some quack with an obvious hate-boner for Jews.

>>2906686
bump

>>2904297
>namely where the fuck did all those Jews go if they weren't murdered?
Uhhhh to Israel and USA??????
Also, how do you know that some of those Jews ever really existed and weren't just made up to push the lie? It's not like we have the bodies to prove that these people really existed

>>2904333
>/pol/ raids
>Actually existing
If that were true, you would see a raid thread on /pol/ right now, you know, because you have to organize raids, or else they aren't raids. Really you're just delusional

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>>2906908

>>2905904
>Holy fuck Nazis please go die. You fucks are just as bad as the incessant "Stalin dindu nuffin" leftypol spammers,
>Waaaaaaah why can't everyone be a cuck to the ((Status quo)) like meee????

>>2909474
Are you aware how quickly threads move through /pol/? And oftentimes, starting a raid on /pol/ is as simple as pointing out a target, then you'll flock like locusts.

>>2907841
>REAL /his/torians share my views! Anyone who disagrees must be a bogeyman from another board!

>>2908679
>this wasn't just grandfathers going to war overseas, but whole families being affected.
Amerifat detected?? This is what happens in every war you mongoloid. No wonder you eat up the Jew narrative