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When exactly did wars started to become serious shit instead

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When exactly did wars started to become serious shit instead of a past-time, Europeans did for fun?

Was it Napoleons invasion of Russia?

What were the first serious, most bitter wars that people didn't want to lose at all costs?
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>>2902935
Seven Years War
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Just going to beat the inevitable Yankee shitpost about their war of aggression and Reeee.
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>>2902935
>What were the first serious, most bitter wars that people didn't want to lose at all costs?
>Was it Napoleons invasion of Russia?
You are not serious.
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>>2902935
Total war first came about when the Levee en Mass was decreed in 1793.
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>>2902935
War had been slowly moving in that direction since at least >>2903317 but the Nuremberg Trials are what guaranteed that pretty much every conflict was going to be fought to the bitter end and that guerrilla warfare and terrorism would become the norm of groups that normally would have acknowledged defeat long before.
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>>2902935
Thirty years war was probably the worst one before the 20th century
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>>2902935
It's the other way around. Now it's become a joke.

The answer is, Arab invasions. All of them
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>>2903357
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The reform was the cause of everything.
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