*blocks your path* Pay your taxes today, peasant?

lmao good one m'lord

now beat it, i need to get back to tilling or you wont have crops lol

>>2901778
yes theresa may

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>>2901778

>>2901778
Fuck off m8, don't you wanna eat?

>>2901786
V-very well, peasant.

>>2901778
yeah whatever clanky fucker
wheres my ale? And when the fuck are you going to take care of those saracens you pussy? Can't handle some mudslimes even with that fancy armor?

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>>2901778
nice mail faggit

Look at this bender cunt wiff nuffink betta to do than make shit "banter". Go practice wiff your letter opener before I embarrass you more.

>>2901778
My taxes are to the King, my lord and the Holy Church. Not to you, sir knight.

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>>2901778

why the fuck weren't peasant revolts more common
seriously if i had to spend one day in a feudal society as a peasant i'd have tried to lead a mob and slaughter every noble within 100 miles

>>2902118
>why the fuck weren't peasant revolts more common
they were extremely common

>>2902118
They were common.

The problem is what happens after you do that.

All of the nobles in the entire area gather an army 10 times the size of yours, filled with hardened professionals to your poorly armed citizen's militia.

They'd sentence you to the most horrifying and cruel death that they could come up with as the price of treason, just to send a warning to other would be revolters.

>>2902118
They weren't uncommon. In Germany you even had a massive widespread revolt in 16th century.
However, broadly and generally speaking, feudalism wasn't so brutal or oppressive like memes tell you.
For reference, watch some video where HEMA dudes recreate armored combat.
Armored, trained combatant is awfully hard to kill. Peasants lacked access to proper weapons, armor and training. Chance of peasant revolt succeeding was slim.

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>>2901778
Taxes you say? Be right there good sire, just have to check something with my buddies.

>>2902118
wew, lad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_revolts_in_late-medieval_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Peasants%27_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peasant_revolts

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>>2902207

>>2901778
Who paid you to conquer England?

>>2902163
>However, broadly and generally speaking, feudalism wasn't so brutal or oppressive like memes tell you.

Could you explain this more? It seemed like life was harsh non-stop labor for a peasant.

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>>2901778
piss off m'lord

>>2904555
It was harsh, but certainly not non-stop. They got tons of time off because of all the feast days for different saints

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Somebody explain to me why strikes weren't common

i'm not talking about revolts where you gather a mob and rush to the nearest noble and behead him, but more of a "we ain't working and you can starve for all we care, milord" thing

i mean, you won't get your shit pushed in as hard as for trying to start a revolt, right?

>>2904555
There is a 99% chance that the average medieval peasant worked less days than you do.

>>2905628
Part of the social contract of medieval Europe was that you work in the field to make food and the lord protects you from people that want to fuck you up, be that brigands or thieves or opposing lords, and generally is entrusted with the might and the ability to carry out the law of the land and of God. The catch is that the lord has the military equipment in order to do the protecting, and if he doesn't get your end of the bargain, he'll turn his military equipment on you.

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>>2901778
>pay your taxes today, peasant?
>I can't into math because illiterate
>tax collector cant into math because he is illiterate
>hand him a fist full of crops
>he takes it and leaves
>guards come a month later to throw me in a cell for evading taxes for ten years
>dungeon master can into math, asks me how long I have been there
>tell him 1000 years
>he thinks this is wrong but doesn't know enough to challenge it and lets me go
>mfw villagers tells of an ancient wizard walking among them

>>2905652
>some random noble cuts your dick off for looking straight at his wench.

>>2905640
yeah but then that faggot'll starve cuz he aint got no crops

>>2905628
>strikes
"A man resembles the times he lives in more than he resembles his own father."

>you will never be robbed by the knight

>>2901778
Yes mi lord, I love paying taxes, hail our King.

>>2905628
If he strikes then who tends to the crops? He'd starve to death as well.

This wasn't in medieval Europe but a Yucatan peasant rebellion failed because all the peasants had to go back to their farms to tend to the crops when they were on the brink of success

>>2904555
It wasn't easy, but it wasn't ''pure hell non-stop work'' either. Peasants had plenty of days off (religious reasons), and when crops are planted till harvest only work was maintaining your plot and house, and maybe fishing and hunting occasionally, or taking care of animals.
As this other guy said, it was a hard work, but average peasant worked a lot less than you do.
Of course, life back then was different and all sorts of calamities could happen, but that's a different subject.
Keep in mind I'm talking about peasants in general, in Western Europe.
It was different in different regions in different times.

>>2904555
The thing is, you need to do a lot of constant work(oiling tools, blacksmithing, repairing woodwork, watch over the livestock, build stuff).
But between that, its not particularly harsh.
Limitations in crop yield, bad earth rotation and the manpower needed to harvest is far bigger limitations than how harsh the work is.
You are talking about a society where mortality is the main driver of population and expansion.

Sure, War is eternal, but that doesn't mean the particular city states is affected. Or the land between them.
War might be eternal, but only from a state/mercenary perspective.

>>2902118
they were super common actually. like almost on a daily basis type of shit.

the reason it's not so common in history books is that only few of the truly epic and huge ones are remembered, like the german peasant's revolt. now that shit was epic.

also the german peasant's revolt had other things like religion and nobles joining peasants which was kind of uncommon

>>2907289

Cheeky little shit-shoveler, aren't you? Let's see how cheeky you are after I rape your family to death and throw you in the oubliette.

>>2902118
Because they almost always lost. Badly.

>>2909081
enjoy starving
enjoy having your shit pushed in by the next lord over because you have no troops or food for them

Even in the most oppressive regime, you can only do that sort of thing so many times, especially when your technological enforcement mechanisms are limited.

>>2901778
*walks behind you*
*unsheathes war scythe*
heh.... nothin personnel, "milord"........

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>muh class war
Why does anyone think nobles would go out of their way to abuse the people who they rely on to maintain their land?

>>2902118
>seriously if i had to spend one day in a feudal society as a peasant i'd have tried to lead a mob and slaughter every noble within 100 miles
The Swiss are your spirit animal then. Those guys didn't take no shit from nobles.

>>2901778

Peasants did nought pay taxes, knave. They paid tithes.

>>2910116
>why would nobles kill their power base
People like money and are shortsighted.

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>>2901778
I didn't vote for ya!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2c-X8HiBng

>>2910098
*tips hay fedora*

>>2901778
>Sir Chad III swaggers onto my strip farm
>His twin layers of chainmail rattle as he dives his sword into the earth, destroying a turnip
>no dinner tonight
>"Pay your taxes virgin peasant lmao"
>"y-y-yes m'lord......"
>hobble inside, pain from my back due to spine deformation from years of hard labour
>look my cholera-stricken son in the eye as I take the money intended to pay for the town witch doctor
>leave the hovel to find my daughter brutally raped by noble's squire
>"Dude that roastie was TIGHT hahaha"
>The noble and his squires/escort laugh and high-five
>Meekly hand over a bag of 7 copper coins
>I'm concentrating so hard from holding back tears that I drop the spaghetti all over my rags
>Stacy of Lorraine points and says "Look at that peasant, he's such a weirdo!"
>Nobles and fellow peasants alike point and laugh
>I run inside my hovel in tears, furiously BTFO
>organise a peasant mob in revenge
>get slaughtered by Duke of York's troops
NOBLES GET OUT REEEEEEE

>>2906208
You're semi-replaceable
But yes, that is the idea

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>>2902118
They were pretty common on the territories of ex-Yu countries. Some really big ones too. The biggest one in present Slovenia happened in 1515, with ~80000 peasants fighting for 5 months and even besieging castles. But they all pretty much achieved nothing, ranging from a few days to months but in the end the lords always managed to brutally surpres them. If it came to that, then the villages from where the rebels came from were taxed even more. Or in a few cases, the Turks raiding nearby did a little detour to go kill some peasents.
They had a shitload of reasons too. Too high/unfair taxes, bullshit new taxes, disgruntled by the lack of promised protection, bullshit new laws, the lords putting themselves above the various kings and emperors of whatever country they were in, lords ignoring their demands (like to allow them to sell surplus crops or their handywork in nearby towns), etc.
Though I can't remember a single revolt that was meant as an outright revolution in present Slovenia, or at least it's never mentioned in high school classes. They mostly just wanted bullshit laws/taxes reverted back, not freedom from their lords. The closest I can think of is the Slovene-Croatian peasant rebellion (the one where the captured leader was sat upon a mock throne and a heated iron crown placed upon his head, then also quartered just for good measure) demanded that they pay their old taxes directly to the emperor of the HRE/Habsburgs, with no serious change in their societal status.

>>2901778
You Got Mail
You got mail
You got Mail
You GOT mail
YOU got Mail
You got MAIL
YOu gOT mail
>repeat 10,000x more times

>>2901778
If I pull that off, will you die?

>>2913161
it would be extremely painful

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>1489, Hans Waldmann, Mayor of the City and Republic of Zurich passes a law that outlaws excessive feasting and keeping big dogs for the country folks.
>sends dogcatchers to kill all the dogs, says they are bad for gamekeeping
>after the first 3 villages and 25 dogs down or so the first angry guy shows up with a crossbow
>within minutes several hundred angry guys with crossbows, halberds, murder axes and swords show up
>dog catcher makes it home alive, angry armed mob in hot pursuit
>up to 2000 guys have gathered outside the city for an excessive feast together with their big dogs, they are vilely drunk and armed to the teeth.
>Waldmann gets arrested, tortured for 5 days and then beheaded outside the walls
>10'000 country folks watch and cheer
>country folks force city to cut all new taxes, give equal rights, and pay for all the food and drink they had
I guess being a peasant must have been a different experience in Switzerland than for the rest of Europe.

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>>2901778
The mail is supposed to hug the body, not hang loosely.
Nice helmet tho, it looks real.

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>>2913218
Actually mail was worn over a Gambeson, mail is not much good without padding

>>2901778
I don't think anything like ever blocked my forefathers and foremothers.

On my mothers side they were robbers and warriors up until 1400 and somefew all the way to the 1500 and then virtually all settled as farmers (and pochers).

On my fathers side they were warriors from the battle of lutzen up until the wwii, my second cousin was a battallion commander in the first battle with the russians at suomosalmi in the winter war.

No knight could have ever blocked the way of any of my forefathers and gotten away with their life.

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>>2913234
I know that already, no one is dumb enough to wear any armour on bare skin.

>>2901778
I don't have any cash. Perhaps you will accept some form of labor?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvée